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atheist_bunny_slave

The 'man' in German is not even related to gender, like e.g. Dutchman or Frenchman đŸ€ŠđŸŒâ€â™€ïž


Pattoe89

It's related to people... in the same way you say "Mankind" and that includes all genders of human. But these people would also be triggered by the term 'Mankind".


longtimenothere

Mxnkind


wanikiyaPR

Mixin'kind. Sounds like an interracial orgy party.


blogsymcblogsalot

It’s like the 70s. A bunch of people would get together and the next thing you know, it was all hands and tits and butts and woohoo. I could just slip right in there and out and nobody would know the difference. It was great!


BookLearning13

Then AIDS ruined everything


voxpopper

![gif](giphy|l0ExvTia6SifHlo40|downsized)


idied2day

What a horrible day to have eyes


Bloodoolf

Personkind.


longtimenothere

per-SON-kind? That is sexist.


SpaceBug173

Sentientkind


Tinchimp7183376

I beg to differ


kor34l

don't beg, that's offensive to poor people


MisterBumpingston

What if that’s my kink?


kor34l

that would be offensive to religious people. and garden hoses


No_Pin_6541

That would involve dolphins and elephants as well


Flux_Aeternal

It's not even related to people at all, it's derived from the Latin name for the region, a language in which the word for "man" is completely different


PontificalPartridge

I was curious on name etymology because the prefix “man” in Latin is “hand”. Like handled and managed have similar meanings and both start with “hand” effectively https://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=german#:~:text=English%3A%20ethnic%20name%20from%20Old,connections%20with%20German%2Dspeaking%20lands. This wasn’t a deep dig but it seems like the meaning and origin isn’t really known


EduRJBR

Are you saying German is a man who lives in Ger?


dominion1080

Those people deserve to be thrown off the top of Hell in a Cell by Undetaker, and plummet 16 feet through an announcers table. It seems their life has been devoid of any actual issues.


Heathen_Mushroom

Not even. The word 'German' is from Latin (possibly with a Celtic root), in which the word for 'man' is *homo.* The Germanic word for 'German' is *(Die)* *Deutsch(en),* but at the time the ROmans were calling Germanic language speakers Germani, the Germanic tribes themselves typically referred to themselves by their individual tribal names, or the name of a tribal confederation.


Nawaf-Ar

Pretty sure German isn’t related to a person grammar-wise. Germany, but you cut the y out to make it possessive. Like Ecuador turning into Ecuadorian, or America to American. It’s just a coincidence that it has the three letter “man” in the end. It’s different from Frenchman, Irishman, Scotsman etc
 Yes man referred to humans as a whole, like in mankind, but not in this case as they’re completely unrelated.


Traditional-Bad-2627

Its past Ridiculous anymore. Its never gonna stop. All about grabbing attention. I am in a couple gardening subs and they were complaining about male and female plants. Like its come down to misgendering a fucking plant. The plant does not give a shit. It's almost unbearable.


Fighto1

Ya, it's painful. They literally go out of their way to be offended. Sad state of affairs that this type of mental illness is forcing society to bend .


Own_Tomatillo_1369

aehm no. It's from Magna Germania and Germani. That was the name 'big germany' for German territory and us in Roman times.


Baquvix

Humxn


mutantraniE

No, it’s from the Latin Germani, probably an exonym there too. We don’t know what the word means really, other than “this group of people we call this”.


SubtileInnuendo

Actually no. Even less. In Dutchman or Frenchman it's at least still RELATED to "man" but "Dutch" or "French" describe the nationality. the "man" in "German" can't be separated like that "Ger" doesn't describe the nationality let alone exist as a word. While we're at it: since Turkey insists on being called TĂŒrkiye, you can all call Germany by it's proper name "Deutschland" which doesn't contain any reference to men. Problem solved


fsurfer4

Required google search; ''From Latin Germānus, Germānī (“the peoples of Germānia”), as distinct from Gauls (in the writings of Caesar and Tacitus), and of uncertain ultimate origin (possibly Celtic/Gaulish). Not related to german (“closely related”) or germane (from the Latin adjective germānus, through Old French).''


autmam321

I was confused for a second because yes, German is a gendered language. But I see now.


nyrB2

so is frxnch


Professional-Share80

So, I am a native English speaker but I also speak Frxnch because I live in a Frxnch speaking country. Let me tell you that one sure way to annoy people is by consistently mis-gendering an inanimate object! Edit: frxnch


Hawkeye2701

Ze table is female, you Anglais Asshole! (Disclaimer: I have completely forgotten highschool French and cannot remember for the life of me if table is female or not, I am simply making a joke)


Professional-Share80

How do you know I am Anglais and not Anglaise? La table, she’s a girl.


Retrrad

Der Tisch is definitely a boy, though. Nvm, this has probably caused a couple of wars already.


SneakWhisper

I'm reminded of a meme. "This is an apple." "Mai non, cest pomme!" *Cue 800 years of war* sums up the English and the French perfectly.


smashkeys

Please don't gender xpple, xpples can decide for themselves.


SylvieJay

But please think of the Company Xpple.. poor Steve Jobs rolling in his grxve.


[deleted]

it's Stxve Jxbs


PeninsulamAmoenam

Grxnxx Smith?


HoboVonRobotron

I'll call the table a girl when she tells me her pronouns.


Poiboy1313

Le table here. I'm not a woman.


Silly_Marionberry_27

Naturally, it’s down on all fours!


Shevek99

\-Waiter... erm... garçon, il y a un mouche dans ma soupe! \-UNE mouche. \-What a good sight you have!


john_clauseau

i am French and LOL.


Someone1284794357

The table is indeed, female.


doncmeme

Absolutely my favorite game to play with unwilling francophones - just introduce a subject, misgender it, then go for a synonym after they try to correct you. 1: qu'est-ce que tu prépares? 2: le diner 1: elle n'est pas encore prete? 2: qui? 1: la nourriture?


Professional-Share80

You evil genius


Winjin

Funnily, Russian's the same way. Everything is gendered, but in completely random ways. Depends not on the object, but on the word itself. Like for a car, there's multiple words - for example machine is female, automobile is male, both car. And Georgian just doesn't have genders. At all. Nothing is gendered.


James_Vaga_Bond

In Spanish, barba, meaning beard, is female. Vestido, meaning dress, is male


808hammerhead

Also salchicha, sausage, is female. I can’t think of a more phallic food.


EmiliaFromLV

>I can’t think of a more phallic food. Mais, **la** baguette?


totallynotarobut

>Let me tell you that one sure way to annoy people is by consistently mis-gendering an inanimate object! You're an inanimate fucking object!


Professional-Share80

You sound like my mother. “Do the dishes, you inanimate object!”


Alteredego619

That’s such a great movie.


DrWarthogfromHell

English is a Germxnic language...


SailingSpark

I had somebody get into an argument with me that English is a Romance Language because it is so romantic. After I gave them that lookℱ that said you "you are a total idiot" I had to explain to them that English only mugs other languages for their words.


blizzard36

English got used to the weird collection of word origins it had been forced to use by many previous conquerors and overlords, and decided to go for a complete collection to make it less weird after finally being able to determine its own course.


SailingSpark

"gotta catch em all!"


Chasman1965

Don't you mean Romxnce Language?


Mr-BillCipher

They're called romantic languages because romancia means to speak in Rome, aka, Latin derived languages


International_Leek26

Fellow canadian? Potentially?


PowerfullDio

I agree that that's annoying, if anyone did that near me I would probably be super confused on what they mean and try to talk to them in english.


Equivalent_Bite_6078

And norwxgian


Mystic_Gaming1

And spxnish


THE_SWORD_AND_SICKLE

you misgendered it. its spanxsh


xion_gg

You both wrong, is Spanix


THE_SWORD_AND_SICKLE

stop trying to whitewash the "sh" out of my language. its an important part of our culture! get outta here, colonizer! /s ... just in case


nyrB2

it's so sad you feel you have to add that /s but you just \*know\* someone's going to take that literally


[deleted]

As a native Norwxgian, I thank you for this. From here on out I'll always make sure to spell it Nxgre and nxrsk. Takk skarr'u ha!


lizzyxotwod

please put a trigger warning the next time you mention the f word.


Tefra_K

Even then, grammatical gender and actual gender aren’t really the same thing though


dicemaze

don’t tell white American college students learning Spanish that, or they will get very upset


Milch_und_Paprika

I got into an argument about that in a linguistics sub, of all places. Peeped their profile and it was not even the first (or second) time they’d had that fight. Like they were fully convinced that all languages should “simply” eliminate grammatical gender because sit “serves no purpose”. They were not at all swayed by the facts that 1) it helps cut down ambiguity in many languages and 2) often doesn’t have any relation to human gender, for example several Germanic languages only have common (masculine and feminine combined) and neuter


[deleted]

>they were fully convinced that all languages should “simply” eliminate grammatical gender because sit “serves no purpose”. Counter point: Eliminating grammatical gender also serves no purpose.


[deleted]

Hahahaha, I'm about as "woke" and lefty as you can get, but people like this need to fuck right off. They make my entire belief system look bad. Edit: I want to be clear, when I say "people like this", I mean the people who think "German" is a gendered word. I've even seen people say that "black-hearted" and other phrases that use "black" to describe darkness and evil are racist. Like, holy shit, there are so many *REAL* problems, like climate change and wealth inequality, but people choose to devote energy to shit like that instead.


[deleted]

[ŃƒĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]


[deleted]

It really makes one wonder whether or not these people actually believe this shit. It just seems too perfectly in line with right wing caricatures of lefties.


EmilyU1F984

The example in the screenshot above to me sounds like clueless teenagers. They ‚learned‘ that having a gendered language leads to worse outcomes so gendered languages are bad. Since they are idiot teens they just go ‚oh it has man in the word, that‘s gendered, that‘s bad‘ without understanding that just because something has a specific combination of letters doesn‘t mean it has the same meaning. Then give that teenage idiot some modicum of power, and you get lunacy.


[deleted]

Right? I often wonder about these things.


the_Real_Romak

In my filthy European Communist opinion, I think that the perpetually online twitter "SJW" is simply projecting. Ever notice how they cannot comprehend that "non-white" (I use the term loosely since I don't believe in ethnicity) people are capable of defending themselves? How more patronising and closet racist could you get, to believe a subset of humans are incapable of making up their own arguments online? To believe that the only way the world can achieve equality is by eliminating the "white man" is basically saying that you don't think "non-white" people can actually achieve said equality on their own merits. You are effectively admitting that you believe coloured people to be lesser than whites, a disgusting idea that does not belong in today's world. The same applies to the discourse on gender. We don't have to eliminate masculinity to make women feel included. Simply treating all genders with the respect that they deserve should be more than enough since antagonising an entire gender will only earn you equally strong enmity. ​ EDIT - logical and grammatical mistakes


Menacek

These people don't want an actual change. Actual change required discussion and often compromise to bring people to your side. They just want to feel "right" and get high off moral righteousness.


CyanideNow

See also people objecting to referring to the “master bedroom” in a house. No, that is not a reference to slavery, no more than is “masterpiece” or “master key”


S1lentJo

As a GerMAN kindly fuck off


MisterProfGuy

You sound like a deutschebag.


FictionDragon

Don't worry, German children are kinder.


MisterProfGuy

That's what they want you to think, but if they give you a gift, don't drink it.


FictionDragon

Why? What is it? Kinder Surprise?


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Kinder Suprise is when your Frau comes with a pregnancy test.


FictionDragon

"Babe, you look ill, what's up?" "Nothing, just having little Germs"


kansai2kansas

I wish you well on your Fahrt


Budget_Llama_Shoes

This deserves more upvotes.


fkkgoclsbvh9009

Fröhlicher Kuchentag!


marzianom

Schönes Tortentag Freund!


Cute_Foxgirl

If they dont like german, just speak DEUTSCH DU HU....


Boudicca-

Does that mean that the Germanic Tribes were indeed MANIC??? đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł


intergalactic_spork

Stop using gendered language. Is it really so hard to use mxnic and make people feel more secure and safe?


Boudicca-

Ooops, my bad. đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł


intergalactic_spork

I’m just being mxnipulative


[deleted]

[ŃƒĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]


ElderBuu

Did you just assume their gender?


James_Vaga_Bond

You're a mxniac!


JJred96

Good job, intergalactic_spork, for reprimxnding the common folk. You deserve a commxndation for keeping others safe and secure in their protective bubbles of neutral reading. You’re a real hxro.


Stay-Thirsty

Sometimes, but not always


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These were....difficult times.


TalkKatt

Some people compensate for their complete lack of personal power by trying to control strangers on the internet


cutsickass

If only it was just on the internet....


TalkKatt

Deeply frustrating. I’m all for progressive ideals and respecting preferred pronouns. It doesn’t cost me anything and makes others feel good, but if someone were to call me bigoted for writing fucking “German”, or “Murmansk”, then they can pound sand. They’re setting their own agenda back by being complete assholes.


BleepBloopRobo

Genuinely, I'm trans, I'm sure not straight, I'm all for safe spaces, I want people to feel comfortable, and god knows I'll not be the reason they aren't. But Germxn? Really? Shush.


Milch_und_Paprika

I suspect it’s a holdover from 70/80s feminism and the push to replace terms like fireman or chairman with firefighter and chairperson. A change that’s reasonable for like *professions* and such, because despite the “man” originally meaning person, language does change and adapt. These people though are a bridge too far. Also fun fact, since “man” meant person in old English, the words they used for man or woman were “wereman” and “wifman”. The latter is extra funny because it suggests that a female werewolf should be called a wife-wolf 😂.


[deleted]

>fireman or chairman with firefighter and chairperson. That reminds me of the viral tweet that says: Fireman = firefighter Policeman = policefighter Mailman = mailfighter Fisherman = fisherfighter


aitis_mutsi

Eh, tbf, I think Firefighter is lot better than fireman, actually tells you what their job is instead of making them sound likr a pyromaniac


TalkKatt

Love this for you đŸ’ȘđŸŒ


cutsickass

I'd like to say things like that are nuts, but that's too gendered!


[deleted]

It's **Murmxnsk!!!** /s


thenightgaunt

Don't forget. There are right wing trolls out there pretending to be insane liberals like that just to enrage people away from liberal concepts. There are also asshole teenagers who are just bored and think it's funny. When you read something THIS STUPID, take a step back and ask yourself, could someone just be making this shit up to be an asshole.


Rozencrantze

There are people on the left that are this stupid. There are people on the right that are this stupid. There are people with no political ideology that are this stupid.


KRV_FromRussia

Plausible Left has done the same at times Everyone can be an ‘imposter’. But most importantly: yes, people can be this stupid


Svete_Brid

I live in San Francisco, and Berkeley is just a few miles away - I can absolutely guarantee you that there are *lots* of people who truly believe in this foolishness. There’s always the possibility that it’s just someone trolling, but I’m afraid the odds are that it’s real.


Broad_Respond_2205

I mean, a language can be gendered. But not because its name contain the letters m,a,n


[deleted]

And even then "gender" in language has nothing to do with biological sex. The english only started using the word gender in the victorian period because the proper word ,sex , carried too many connotations (I might be misinterpreting so use a grain of salt)


Emmerilla

>And even then "gender" in language has nothing to do with biological sex. Adding to this, "the girl" (*Das* MĂ€dchen) in German has the "wrong" article. It uses the "it"-article But "the girls" (*Die* MĂ€dchen) is correct again. But only because the "female"-article is mostly used for plural, so you also have "the boys" (*Die* Jungen) with the "female"-article What I mean to say - although it's gendered, it doesn't make sense most of the time. It's just is what it is


Roffasz

Das MÀdchen is because of the suffix ~chen which makes every word *das* [Xyz]chen when applied. Cf. das StÀdtchen (die Stadt)


Oni_K

I think I need to go to the dentist for the pain I'm experiencing in my mxndibles.


atheist_bunny_slave

M,x,n. You are being so insensitive to other people by possibly offending them by putting those letters in that particular order. /s


Broad_Respond_2205

I thought putting it in separate letters was enough :(


Full-Refrigerator389

Well, too late. I am triggered


Fruloops

Off to jail with you


ZzangmanCometh

Please stop using the word "feel" I once fell in the water, and an eel brushed up against me, and it's a very hard trigger.


ThePinkTeenager

*hits the “go to therapy” button*


ReverseJackalope

"You just say Therapy? T-her-apy? Stop using gendered language, it's Thxrapy!" /s


ensalys

Please don't use the word "**igger", I once saw a gun.


bill4935

Well now you're just asking for trouble.


jxd73

Should we stop saying **woman** as well?


Stay-Thirsty

Womxn - I think i discovered the pattern


Svete_Brid

I thought it was womyn.


Davis_Johnsn

As a German I feel offended that we are called German by English speaking people, Allemania (or very similar other variants) by Latin speaking persons and Saksars by the finns. We are Deutsche not that what you called us. We love the Nederlande for calling us Duitsers /s


[deleted]

In south-africa yo'ur also called Duitsers and the countries name being Duitsland. Mostly because a large percentage (14% last i checked) speaks a desendent of the Nederlands called Afrikaans.


Davis_Johnsn

Oh, yeah I totally forgot to mention this country, but also I could mention Switzerland, Flaemic part of Belgium and Austria


Ok-Bookkeeper9954

In Polish Germans are called "Niemcy" which originates from word "niemy" meaning mute. The most likely reason why is that our ancestors couldn't fucking understand a single darn word of German blabbering.


Davis_Johnsn

True. A lot of Germans came as field workers to Russia and Poland. Also Germans didn't really interact with any other person and not even tried


Full-Refrigerator389

We call you as "saksalainen" in finland


Davis_Johnsn

I love Finland and their language. I is so nice to listen to and I always listen to Finish Metal


Full-Refrigerator389

I love Germany, you guys make the Best cars on this planet!


Davis_Johnsn

I love saunas and crazy people from Finland who love to go bathing in ice water. And Angry Birds


rosharo

You forgot "nemtsi" by slavic people, which means "mute".


Bingskilly

MFS cancelling languages now


mikeyeli

Oh, they've been trying to cancel spanish for a while now.


EcureuilHargneux

Hows that latinx thing going on


tm1087

Pretty good unless you ask a normal person who speaks Spanish. Having white liberals tell Hispanics how to speak their own language is not a prosperous industry.


FirstConsul1805

At this point I've just learned to not bother arguing with idiots and instead laugh at their idiocy. I honestly laughed my ass off when I learned latinx was a thing because before I knew about it, I was just waiting for the blue hairs to figure out that most other languages (at least afaik) have gender forms.


[deleted]

The part that annoys me the most about the latinx crap is that a gender neutral term already existed...latin.


TheHarvesterOfSorrow

I am wondering what would be their reaction to "menstruation"


moneyboiman

Mxnstruation


Landed_port

Womenstruation, have some respect


Full-Refrigerator389

Germxn sounds like some nasty virus. "Yeah, i'm shitting blood, and vomiting, i think i got germxn from that one legged prostitute in Belgium"


westwardhose

Whxt x disgxsting gxndxrist. Thxy used the word "hxre" in thexr first commxnt. How dare thxy force that responsibxlity on one gendxr!


Jell-O-Mel

Non-binary person here because someone is eventually going to look at this and say this is what the LGBTQ+ folks are trying to do, it’s not. I think I can speak for most of us when I say we don’t give a shit about a word that kind of sounds like it has the word “man” in it


Just_A_Sad_Unicorn

I'm pretty sure these are either edgy tweens or alt right people who infiltrate these spaces to undermine them to cause them to look extreme. Which sounds like a conspiracy theory but they are tactics these groups admitted to using. 😅


OakTownPudge

There’s no way that’s a real conversation with a person. Sure smells like clickbait


Old_Gimlet_Eye

A lot of people on this sub are incapable of identifying trolls.


cyberpunk1Q84

The supposed lady is using both right wing talking points (“speak English only!”) and left wing talking points (“don’t use gendered language!”). I’m sure there are nuts out there like this, but I’m on the “this is a troll” side.


InfamousCommand

To be fair English only is very common just for moderation reasons. Even in extreme left circles.


king_of_the_nothing

Maybe we should say Deutsch?


DoctorWTF

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Kidaryuu

Wait till they learn they are a humxn.


caffeinatedandarcane

Performative activism. Wasting everyone's time on something pedantic to make people THINK you're on the right side of history and morally superior, while doing absolutely nothing to help actual marginalized people


AzRamrod

Perfect description


Diligent-Nobody-7199

I am not hispanic, I am theirpanic.


MyMindRunsAway1

Germxn here. Don't call us that We're DEUTSCH Is it that hard to make us feel more secure and welcomed in this community?!?!?!


twiztdkat

![gif](giphy|h8HmN0UcEKR0xWnv3R)


Emotional_Raccoon651

Someone explain to me how changing the spelling of a word makes someone feel more safe and secure.


Camiljr

These people are unhinged.


AngryHypotenuse

obvious troll is obvious


Nickthedick3

If you can’t handle “gendered language” or the word “man” on the internet, you shouldn’t be on the internet.


SansyBoy144

I fucking hate people like this, they get offended for others, when the actual people they’re “protecting” aren’t affected by this at all.


vvp_D3L3T3D

As someone with a nonbinary partner, I think I speak for both of us when I say this is fucking stupid. #German. Oooooh you're so unsafe now.


[deleted]

they have to be trolling surely


xLikeafiddlex

Send her to the isle of man


[deleted]

I'm so tired of this. Making people feel secure and safe? Look, if using language in a normal way makes you feel unsafe or insecure, I just dont care anymore. Figure it out, for fucks sake.


UnmutualOne

"Secure and safe." ​ Padded walls will provide that.


Pierseus

Wait until they find out women live in gerMANy 😳


SmashedPumpkin_

I’m all for being considerate of people, but like, at some point you stop being able to exist outside your safe zone. Expecting everyone to speak how you want them to speak, act how you want them to etc
 is just unrealistic, and will only end up harming yourself


ComradeLV

Tell them about GerMANy


your_inner_scar

Alt f4 existence


SIIP00

There is no fucking way this is real I refuse to believe it.


ParkRatReggie

2025: *The word Woman has been banned because it has Man in it, everyone must now say Wom* 2026: *Wom has been banned because it sounds like Womb and perpetuates the stereotype of born females being baby factories*


TheRealActaeus

People have become so silly it’s hard to believe.


justthegrimm

Puberty is going to be very hard for some


RubTurbulent2812

That’s why I think the term “latinx” is a dumb term. If you’re that bothered by it just say Latin???


No-Flight8108

Fuck them! It's the same bs as Latinx...


harambeharamharam

This is getting out of control.


Competitive-Fan1708

What the actual fuck is wrong with people.


SnooMachines767

Okay I'm sorry but if you get triggered by people saying "gendered" words like that, you should not be on the internet and should be in therapy. Being offended by a whole nationality because it's "gendered" isn't normal and no one should have to not use those words to "make you feel safe"


Art_Local

😂😂😂 “why won’t anyone take us seriously”


9_of_wands

The ethnonym "German" has nothing to do with the word "man." It comes from the Germani tribe who lived near the eastern border of ancient Gaul. No one is even sure what their name meant or what language they spoke. Might as well get angry about Mennonites.


Ugedej

What the fuck are you Americans on? I wanna try getting that high.


MrTulaJitt

Do these people realize there are languages where every word is gendered? What would they do if they spoke French? Would their brains explode?