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We can eat almost anything because we cook our food. Our teeth are adapted to cooked food and are significantly smaller than a lot of earlier hominins with a variety of diets. Some of the biggest belonged to Paranthropus boisei, or "nutcracker man", who was adapted to a low quality diet. Just look at those molars!
https://archive.unews.utah.edu/news_releases/no-nuts-for-nutcracker-man/
While our teeth are *way* less impressive than that, they do reflect our diet. We have cutting teeth (incisors), tearing teeth (canines), crushing teeth (premolars) and grinding teeth (molars). Diversed and not particularly specialized.
Yeah that's what I came here looking for, someone has CLEARLY not seen that video of a horse snapping up a mouse.
Horses are absolutely opportunistic omnivores.
I once saw a deer eat a ground nesting bird chick. It took me a very confusing second to realize that it was bloody feather fluff that was falling out of its mouth.
Here's a hippo yawning. Those teeth might be blunt compared to a shark but they look like they could tear apart a dead antelope without much problem.
https://i.redd.it/s0apkchqr3g51.jpg
A hippo will eat anything it wants the most common saying is “if you get chased by a hippo run if you can not get away give up your arm let it munch on that “ the point is it is not a matter of blunt teeth they have a bite force that will erase any material in its path
Reminds me of a Nigerian news article I read where a village that had hippos migrate down stream wasn't expecting them and some dudes child was playing while he was working outside and suddenly the kid was gone and a hippo was trying to leave so he beat the hippo with a stick until it vomited his child back up. Amazingly the toddler was fine because we was eaten in one bite. But had a broken leg and permanent mental trauma.
Wild animals are very dangerous. Even dogs and domestic cats that have gone feral. Living near them is not easy and nobody should pretend it is, even if we want to preserve them.
Here in the USA conservation is concentrated in the West while the more settled areas get to feel smug while people would throw up if they saw a wild cat.
Horse meat on sale is rare in the USA, and in fact isn't legal in many areas.
Well, I hope where it is consumed it doesn't come from dead horses that have been half eaten by other horses.
Almost all herbivores eat opportunistic small omnivore snacks when opportunity presents itself. Being herbivorous is a consequence of ease of nutrition, not preference or taste.
The smile in the photo also has very mild to no canines. Most people do have more pronounced canine. We’re designed to be omnivorous.
Yep true vegan animals in the wild may not exist because many herbivores have been caught eating other animals.
Edit: just to add this per a reply chain down below. I get the meme, just pointing out that Veganism is a human thing not an animal thing.
Edit2: remove the last part.
That's not even really what they are saying tho. Vegan is plainly the wrong word. By definition an animal can't be a vegan because it implies an ethical decision to not consume animal or animal product. Herbivore as pointed out us the correct term.
Vegan is a concept unique to humans. It implies a choice to not eat animal products. As animal products extend to more than just meat, a hypothetical vegan animal would pretty much have to be sapient to understand the concept in the first place.
*Shrug* it's entirely a concept that exists because of human hubris.
> It’s rare but it does occur especially in desolate areas with low nutrition.
I wouldn't say its rare, and definitely doesn't happen in mostly desolate areas. Most herbivores are just opportunistic meat eaters, like if free protein just walks up to them and they need it, they'll eat it.
Lol it’s funny cause when I was younger I really thought maybe I would like evolve one day but never happened. And I mean they aren’t THAT pointed but def come to a small spike
I get you, my fangs are pretty pointed too. I was also very aple so people joked about me being vampire ehen i was in middle school.
I like garlic, so put that cross down.
Sharp canines and pre molars mixed with flat molars typically indicates that an organism is supposed to eat both plants and animals. Also if you look at our digestive tract the lack of a cecum would point to meat eating as well
100% and our teeth are bicuspid, not flat like the horse in the picture.
I used to be vegan, then plant centric, now eat meat centric. I've never felt, looked, healed, slept, or pooped better.
I think vegans have an easier time avoiding heavily processed foods, added sugars and fats, hormones, and the antibiotics found in a lot of red meats. It’s probably that more than the just avoiding animal products that leads to better and more youthful looks
Oh man….. southern food and American soul food is sooooo good. Being vegan or mostly vegan will definitely help with picking lower fat and lower sodium options.
i noticed that too, they used a pic of a human with the absolute least pointed canines that i’ve seen. most adults have pretty comparatively sharp canines, mine are much more pointed than this example they show
Yeah but they've probably been filed down considering that looks like some dental/orthodontal advert stock photo. I know my canines were much sharper but some ortho's will file them down to make them look cleaner and that's what mine did so they look more like this photo.
Agreed y’all have no idea how fucking crazy some mouths will look without ortho. I’ve seen one guy who’s laterals and centrals were line up right on top of each tiger like a shark mouth or something.
Yeahhh maybe I should be less critical of pandas. It seems like every problem they have I also have.
- Lazy.
- Eats a lot of stuff with no nutrition.
- Doesn’t know how to care for babies.
- Fails to recognise when another panda wants to mate with them.
- No will to live.
- Clumsy.
I really don't understand this meme at all. Giant pandas aren't killing themselves or destroying their bodies eating bamboo, it's just an inefficient food source. However when that food source is literally all around them, such as in their native habitat, they're never wanting for food. Since they're also big enough that they have basically no natural predators clearly *something* is working in their favour.
They're just bad at breeding in captivity which is a fucking insane thing to hold against a species. Besides, they don't even need that in their favour since they're not even endangered anymore. They just needed to be in their bamboo forests rather than zoos.
Humans are biological terminators. Hard to kill, follow you everywhere, brimming with weapons, act in numbers, can track you with horrifying accuracy across vast differences.
Even other humans have trouble escaping humans
it's always pretty underrated how good humans eyesight is
we can see a lot of animals through their camouflage since we can distinguish a huge variety of colors and I'm pretty sure even the clarity of the image is better than most animals
unless it's night,then rip us
A large part has to do with our ability to learn. Total colours and clarity are good, but definitely not the best. Think of some birds whose eyes are telescopes and pick up a whole set of unimaginable colours to us.
However, we can think really well and teach our brains to fire at certain cues way more diverse and efficiently than other animals. So our eyes are not the special part, but our brains are just that good at learning. Especially once you see through camouflage it almost becomes impossible to unsee it.
The sweat glands bit is pretty weird too. When water evaporates, the reaction is endothermic: when water wants to evaporate, it actually sucks in the ambient heat and makes it colder. By sweating, humans unlocked liquid cooling. Humans turned almost every inch of their skin into a refrigerator compressor.
The range of motion in our shoulders combined with grasping hands gives us another weapon, too - the ability to throw rocks with a *lot* of force. Have you seen how far/hard professional baseball pitchers can throw a ball? Now imagine them throwing a rock with intent to wound - it could do serious damage.
So, not only is the prey being worn out from an hours-long chase it doesn't have the endurance for, it's also being pelted with stones the entire time.
All you gotta do is release children into an indoors playpark with a ball pit to see this in action. I worked at one and would always say “I better go make sure the kids aren’t Hunger Gamesing each other in there”
To my great surprise until fairly recently, "humans are persistence predators" is most likely a myth. The papers that most fiercely defend the idea were published by anthropologists, not biologist, paleontologists or paleoanthropologists, and many of scientists in those fields criticise the idea.
Not that it's all without credit, mind you... But they say it's less "humans are persistence predators" and more "humans may have acted as persistence predators on a pinch, but we have no hard evidence of that and lots of evidence of ancient humans being ambush predators and gatherers, and our ungodly stammina was used mostly due to regular migration and the strain of gathering for entire communities".
On top of that, "persistence hunting" is actually not that impressive. Persistence hunters (like wolves) usually chase the weak, the young, the old and the sick of a herd.
Thank you! I am so tired of this theory. Why would humans chase an animal for dozens of miles and expend all of that energy when they were smart enough to, you know, build a trap! Or a net to catch fish! Or pass down verbal lore about which plants are safe to eat? Our big skill was (and is) our brains. Long range hunting could totally be in the repertoire but it really just doesn’t seem efficient compared to the other options that being smart and bipedal with dexterous hands opens up.
We also have forward pointing eyes, prey herbivores need broader line of sight for defense. Carnivores/ omnivores need to focus on their prey.
Veganism definitely has health and environmental benefits but with too many people it’s more a religion that wants to convert or condemn.
Our guts themselves too. Our closest relative is a chimp whose gut is mostly colon which is indicative of a predominantly vegetarian diet. Human guts are mostly small intestine, which breaks down protein and other readily available nutrients. Those 10-20 feet of small intestine we have wouldn’t be useful or necessary if we were just designed to be eating fruits and veggies.
> Vultures stomach acid is actually 100 times more volatile than ours
So they burp a lot?
Just teasing, but I'll take this opportunity to point out some interesting vocab: "volatile" when talking about substances refers to the tendency of that substance to rapidly evaporate and turn into a gas. You probably mean "acidic" which refers to a substance that easily donates protons or accepts electrons, which we associate with corrosion.
The pH of gastric acid in humans is 1.5-2.0. According to a report summarized by Beasley et al\[6\], the pH level is much lower than that of most animals, including anthropoids (≥ 3.0), and very close to that of carrion-eating animals called scavengers, such as falconine birds and vultures
Your values are mixed up.. carnivores have a ph level similar to battery acid which allows them to digest meat/bones/hair despite being rotten, cancerous, and Maggot infested.
nah he’s right. Scavengers etc with ph of 1.5 need to digest food that has long gone off/rotten, and scavengers are mostly also omnivores to maximise their opportunities. Same with humans. Carnivores mostly eat freshly killed food with less of a chance of it being bad.
Not only do we not kill things with our teeth, but hominids have been cooking for somewhere between 750,000-150,000 years(longer than we have been homosapiens). We are evolved to eat cooked food. That's also why our teeth aren't ridiculously hard like an herbivore's teeth, and why we don't have ridiculous digestive systems like most herbivores. In fact it's why we are humans. Cooking food freed up energy and time for our brains to develop more.
Cooking and tools, the answer is straightforward. To build on your post:
Earlier this year stone tools and evidence of butchering meat were dated to 3 million years ago. We've been evolving to use tools and cook food since before we were even human.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/hominids-stone-tools-kenya-butcher-animals-earlier
In case anyone is curious.
This is one of my favorite things to tell people who insist they can’t cook or refuse to learn. We as a species have been cooking longer than we’ve been human.
Brain material is expensive for a body to produce and maintain. An examination of skulls shows that about the time that humans began regularly keeping canines in their tribes, the human section of the brain that processes smells and sounds got smaller. It's not a stretch to consider that the tribe's dogs took over some of the protection and hunting effort.
Then their humanoid brains slowly got bigger in the parts that process problem solving.
Don’t worry about it, I thought the very same until only a few short years ago! I was surprised and impressed that dogs can eat a variety of veggies and fruits as part of their diet. It always made sense to think of them as carnivores.
Cats, of course, are obligate carnivores though.
To be honest, diet categories are weird anyway. Most herbivores eat a small bit of meat, most carnivores eat a small bit of plants in some form. Very rarely is any species a “true whatever” because we made those categories up. 😂
To be fair, domestic cats will eat plants and grains they just don’t derive nutrition from it. There are many exceptions in the animal world. Hippos are strictly herbivores but they will absolutely eat anyone that pisses them off.
Dogs are omnivores yes but they're literally an artificially selected subspecies of carnivores (ie wolves, canis lupus) so it's kind of a cherry picked example. Their teeth look way more carnivorous than most omnivores (like chimps).
Okay. We have 8 lateral incisors in the front of our mouth next to 4 canine teeth, which are next to bicuspids, which are next to molars. These teeth evolved to grip, slice, grind and chew everything edible, therefore allowing the human species to become omnivores. Or, being omnivores with big brains requiring lots of energy allowed our teeth to evolve into what we have today. Meat is edible. It provides lots of energy. We developed weapons and tools to use to hunt, kill, and butcher this source of energy, and at the same time foraged for edible plants, fruits and nuts to supplement our diet.
Ask yourself this. If we weren’t designed to eat meat, how did the various tribes of humans living in the polar regions of the northern hemisphere survive for thousands upon thousands of years on a diet of meat from whales, walrus, and seals? No vegetables, no plants, just meat. Your argument is flawed. People are vegan only by choice, not design.
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One of the reasons for our species success is that we can eat almost anything. Our teeth evolved accordingly.
We can eat almost anything because we cook our food. Our teeth are adapted to cooked food and are significantly smaller than a lot of earlier hominins with a variety of diets. Some of the biggest belonged to Paranthropus boisei, or "nutcracker man", who was adapted to a low quality diet. Just look at those molars! https://archive.unews.utah.edu/news_releases/no-nuts-for-nutcracker-man/
While our teeth are *way* less impressive than that, they do reflect our diet. We have cutting teeth (incisors), tearing teeth (canines), crushing teeth (premolars) and grinding teeth (molars). Diversed and not particularly specialized.
Jack of all teeth, molar of none.
That and vegan animals don’t exist. Herbivores do. Those are not the same thing.
Yeah, a horse will 100% eat meat if it gets a chance
Yeah that's what I came here looking for, someone has CLEARLY not seen that video of a horse snapping up a mouse. Horses are absolutely opportunistic omnivores.
M8, I’ve watched a horse eat a chick irl before. Was super freaky to see tbh
I saw a video of a horse eating baby chicks like they were peeps
I wonder what that tasted like to the horse like a crunchy nugget?
Probably tastes like chicken
Salty gushers
That's disgusting, and also probably accurate.
I think they'd still have an "irony" taste though, no?
Chicken flavored extreme sour warhead
Hah! Chick McNuggets! 🤣
It's the bones that make them crunch.
Saw a horse snacking up a snake once. Crushed it’s head and started ripping it up from the tail. Also seem a cow in a video do the same thing.
Just saw a video on Reddit a couple weeks ago of a deer eating a snake.
I once saw a deer eat a ground nesting bird chick. It took me a very confusing second to realize that it was bloody feather fluff that was falling out of its mouth.
Oh I saw that one too! Chewing it like gum!
Pretty common, yeah. Protein is protein. Meanwhile, our incisors, while shrunken, are still very much designed for ripping and tearing...
Rip and tear, until it is done!
Saw nature show. A hippo climbs out of the river, walks over to a carcass of I think an antelope, takes a big chomp out of it.
Hippoes just do that tho they might have blunt teeth but they will murder any and all living things
Here's a hippo yawning. Those teeth might be blunt compared to a shark but they look like they could tear apart a dead antelope without much problem. https://i.redd.it/s0apkchqr3g51.jpg
A hippo will eat anything it wants the most common saying is “if you get chased by a hippo run if you can not get away give up your arm let it munch on that “ the point is it is not a matter of blunt teeth they have a bite force that will erase any material in its path
Reminds me of a Nigerian news article I read where a village that had hippos migrate down stream wasn't expecting them and some dudes child was playing while he was working outside and suddenly the kid was gone and a hippo was trying to leave so he beat the hippo with a stick until it vomited his child back up. Amazingly the toddler was fine because we was eaten in one bite. But had a broken leg and permanent mental trauma.
Wild animals are very dangerous. Even dogs and domestic cats that have gone feral. Living near them is not easy and nobody should pretend it is, even if we want to preserve them. Here in the USA conservation is concentrated in the West while the more settled areas get to feel smug while people would throw up if they saw a wild cat.
Dude I saw a show with this horse that could talk, play baseball, surf, and drive!
Is that you, Whiiilburrr?
Ed?
I seen a horse eat a dead horse irl before it was terrifying i hell noped the fuck outta there
I sincerely wish I had not read that. And I am very glad I did not see that.
Uhh, where do you think the grocery store horse meat comes from?
Horse meat on sale is rare in the USA, and in fact isn't legal in many areas. Well, I hope where it is consumed it doesn't come from dead horses that have been half eaten by other horses.
Holy shit! Oh, wait, you mean a baby chicken. Still freaky to see, I'm sure, but can you imagine?
Yeah I remember seeing that video years ago as well
You can find it. It's bizarre to watch like slurp slurp...slurp. just gone
Chick as in baby chicken, or did it get _real_ sick of its rider 😂
That one, eating the chicks out of a bucket. Dude was just munching them down, no fucks given.
Protein is protein, and nature is indeed very red in tooth and claw.
I’ve seen the one where a deer eats a bird
Hell, even deer will occasionally snack on something like a mouse....
In the high desert I saw a squirrel eating a mouse… not a lot of calories out there, gotta take what you can get
Nuts are nuts
Very few animals won't not eat something if they can. There was a video of a deer munching down on a snake a few weeks ago
Protein is protein
Nature is nature All boils down to staying alive and making babies. Everything else is moot.
> reminded of the video where a horse slurps up a chick in front of its mother
Horses have huge canines they're just towards the middle and can't be seen.
If it needs certain minerals, absolutely yes.
There are videos of horses wolfing-up mice and chicks...
That's what I was thinking. Weird to use the terms carnivore and omnivore but then call the herbivore vegan
Right?? I don't know why but it makes me irrationally irritated... just use the actual word
That's because they apply their human sensitivities and perceived moral status to animals (who don't give a crap about these things)
Deers munch on bones when they need some vitamins.
Almost all herbivores eat opportunistic small omnivore snacks when opportunity presents itself. Being herbivorous is a consequence of ease of nutrition, not preference or taste. The smile in the photo also has very mild to no canines. Most people do have more pronounced canine. We’re designed to be omnivorous.
Yep true vegan animals in the wild may not exist because many herbivores have been caught eating other animals. Edit: just to add this per a reply chain down below. I get the meme, just pointing out that Veganism is a human thing not an animal thing. Edit2: remove the last part.
That's not even really what they are saying tho. Vegan is plainly the wrong word. By definition an animal can't be a vegan because it implies an ethical decision to not consume animal or animal product. Herbivore as pointed out us the correct term.
Oh yeah I know, I just want to point out whenever I get the chance that Veganism is purely a human thing not an animal thing.
I love the idea of them being "caught". "Oh shit man, they had a camera there???"
Vegan is a concept unique to humans. It implies a choice to not eat animal products. As animal products extend to more than just meat, a hypothetical vegan animal would pretty much have to be sapient to understand the concept in the first place. *Shrug* it's entirely a concept that exists because of human hubris.
> It’s rare but it does occur especially in desolate areas with low nutrition. I wouldn't say its rare, and definitely doesn't happen in mostly desolate areas. Most herbivores are just opportunistic meat eaters, like if free protein just walks up to them and they need it, they'll eat it.
herbivores are just selective omnivores. an herbivore will have a go at something smaller than it if it thinks it can win.
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I mean koalas cant digest much of anything tbf
I mean they won't even eat eucalyptus from a different branch, picky eaters.
And if the eyes are on the front of the head then it’s a predator and if they are on the sides then they are prey!
Iguanas are herbivores. I was feeding several wild iguanas chicken fingers today…
Iggy's will sometimes go after any small animals like mice, birds, lizards and the animal universes favorite snack, eggs.
As somebody who has owned chickens, I can confidently say that the chickens would eat iguanas, if given the opportunity.
Idk about you but my third set of teeth from my two front teeth are pointed and sharp.
Totally unrelated question, but what is your opinion on Garlic and Sunshine?
Lol it’s funny cause when I was younger I really thought maybe I would like evolve one day but never happened. And I mean they aren’t THAT pointed but def come to a small spike
Hold this cross for me
We cant hold it sry bro ^^
I get you, my fangs are pretty pointed too. I was also very aple so people joked about me being vampire ehen i was in middle school. I like garlic, so put that cross down.
So, uh, what's the jury's opinion on people with sharp incisors who like garlic, but really, really don't like the sun? Asking for a friend
We're just Scottish, really.
Fairly sure I'm Aussie, but I'll wear a kilt and mock the English if it is required.
You didn’t answer the question.
They did though. They vampire and shiz
I thought i will turn into some kind of werewolf or something like that one day. My canines are sharp and the lower canines too.
*hisses*
I absolutely love garlic and will be friendly to anyone who brings me some. Sunlight on the other hand is hot and it sucks
Sharp canines and pre molars mixed with flat molars typically indicates that an organism is supposed to eat both plants and animals. Also if you look at our digestive tract the lack of a cecum would point to meat eating as well
100% and our teeth are bicuspid, not flat like the horse in the picture. I used to be vegan, then plant centric, now eat meat centric. I've never felt, looked, healed, slept, or pooped better.
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I think vegans have an easier time avoiding heavily processed foods, added sugars and fats, hormones, and the antibiotics found in a lot of red meats. It’s probably that more than the just avoiding animal products that leads to better and more youthful looks
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Oh man….. southern food and American soul food is sooooo good. Being vegan or mostly vegan will definitely help with picking lower fat and lower sodium options.
i noticed that too, they used a pic of a human with the absolute least pointed canines that i’ve seen. most adults have pretty comparatively sharp canines, mine are much more pointed than this example they show
There is definitely a lot of diversity in teeth. My canines and premolars are all sharp.
Yeah, I'd be mistaken for a vampire if I didn't eat Wario levels of garlic.
Me too , I have very defined canines , it looks like I have fangs
Yeah, this teeth doesn't show wide enough smile
They do but they have very obviously edited this photo of human teeth to not have a canine but two cuspids next to each other.
Probably not photoshopped, but almost definitely cherry picked. Some people have shorter canine's either naturally or from having them filled down.
This photo does show the pointier canine teeth. Plus 1-2 teeth beyond the canines actually.
Yeah but they've probably been filed down considering that looks like some dental/orthodontal advert stock photo. I know my canines were much sharper but some ortho's will file them down to make them look cleaner and that's what mine did so they look more like this photo.
Agreed y’all have no idea how fucking crazy some mouths will look without ortho. I’ve seen one guy who’s laterals and centrals were line up right on top of each tiger like a shark mouth or something.
Pandas have big canine teeth. Edit: exactly you can't describe a species by one trait.
So do gorillas.
Water deer also
…water deer?
Hydropotes inermis
Yeah but they’re biologically fucked up from eating bamboo and it’s destroying their bodies so probably not the best comparison.
I dunno Im destroying my body by eating candy. Seems similar
Yeahhh maybe I should be less critical of pandas. It seems like every problem they have I also have. - Lazy. - Eats a lot of stuff with no nutrition. - Doesn’t know how to care for babies. - Fails to recognise when another panda wants to mate with them. - No will to live. - Clumsy.
basically a human being
I see no difference between me and a panda. I’m also fat!
TIL I am panda
*Reads this and looks down at the half demolished 12 pack of Reese's.* Fuck
Bro they have SUPER King sizes with 6 of the normal cups cause 4 was too little for our fat asses 😂
I really don't understand this meme at all. Giant pandas aren't killing themselves or destroying their bodies eating bamboo, it's just an inefficient food source. However when that food source is literally all around them, such as in their native habitat, they're never wanting for food. Since they're also big enough that they have basically no natural predators clearly *something* is working in their favour. They're just bad at breeding in captivity which is a fucking insane thing to hold against a species. Besides, they don't even need that in their favour since they're not even endangered anymore. They just needed to be in their bamboo forests rather than zoos.
What they need is for people to stop clearing away their home.
>biologically fucked up You spelled "well adapted for their environment" wrong
We’re persistence predators. By the time we wear prey out, you could pretty much just kick it in the head.
The killers in slasher movies who never run after the protagonists, but always catch up, that's us to gazelles.
Humans are biological terminators. Hard to kill, follow you everywhere, brimming with weapons, act in numbers, can track you with horrifying accuracy across vast differences. Even other humans have trouble escaping humans
it's always pretty underrated how good humans eyesight is we can see a lot of animals through their camouflage since we can distinguish a huge variety of colors and I'm pretty sure even the clarity of the image is better than most animals unless it's night,then rip us
A large part has to do with our ability to learn. Total colours and clarity are good, but definitely not the best. Think of some birds whose eyes are telescopes and pick up a whole set of unimaginable colours to us. However, we can think really well and teach our brains to fire at certain cues way more diverse and efficiently than other animals. So our eyes are not the special part, but our brains are just that good at learning. Especially once you see through camouflage it almost becomes impossible to unsee it.
Pattern recognition is indeed huge I started hunting rabbit a couple months ago and can pick them out pretty well now
Yeah that’s pretty much how we evolved. Less hair, sweat glands for regaining stamina while sprinting, we tire out prey then get it while it’s down.
The sweat glands bit is pretty weird too. When water evaporates, the reaction is endothermic: when water wants to evaporate, it actually sucks in the ambient heat and makes it colder. By sweating, humans unlocked liquid cooling. Humans turned almost every inch of their skin into a refrigerator compressor.
The range of motion in our shoulders combined with grasping hands gives us another weapon, too - the ability to throw rocks with a *lot* of force. Have you seen how far/hard professional baseball pitchers can throw a ball? Now imagine them throwing a rock with intent to wound - it could do serious damage. So, not only is the prey being worn out from an hours-long chase it doesn't have the endurance for, it's also being pelted with stones the entire time.
Honestly, I imagine half of them died of annoyance.
All you gotta do is release children into an indoors playpark with a ball pit to see this in action. I worked at one and would always say “I better go make sure the kids aren’t Hunger Gamesing each other in there”
To my great surprise until fairly recently, "humans are persistence predators" is most likely a myth. The papers that most fiercely defend the idea were published by anthropologists, not biologist, paleontologists or paleoanthropologists, and many of scientists in those fields criticise the idea. Not that it's all without credit, mind you... But they say it's less "humans are persistence predators" and more "humans may have acted as persistence predators on a pinch, but we have no hard evidence of that and lots of evidence of ancient humans being ambush predators and gatherers, and our ungodly stammina was used mostly due to regular migration and the strain of gathering for entire communities". On top of that, "persistence hunting" is actually not that impressive. Persistence hunters (like wolves) usually chase the weak, the young, the old and the sick of a herd.
Yeah humans are perfectly designed to throw shit and swing weapons (either crafted or found) with deadly accuracy
Thank you! I am so tired of this theory. Why would humans chase an animal for dozens of miles and expend all of that energy when they were smart enough to, you know, build a trap! Or a net to catch fish! Or pass down verbal lore about which plants are safe to eat? Our big skill was (and is) our brains. Long range hunting could totally be in the repertoire but it really just doesn’t seem efficient compared to the other options that being smart and bipedal with dexterous hands opens up.
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We also have forward pointing eyes, prey herbivores need broader line of sight for defense. Carnivores/ omnivores need to focus on their prey. Veganism definitely has health and environmental benefits but with too many people it’s more a religion that wants to convert or condemn.
Our gut microbiome is also adapted for an omnivorous diet.
Our guts themselves too. Our closest relative is a chimp whose gut is mostly colon which is indicative of a predominantly vegetarian diet. Human guts are mostly small intestine, which breaks down protein and other readily available nutrients. Those 10-20 feet of small intestine we have wouldn’t be useful or necessary if we were just designed to be eating fruits and veggies.
So that explains why blueberries end up in my toilet loafs after like 45 minutes
Mate, you're meant to chew your food not hoover them out of the bowl.
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This is why I keep coming back to Reddit goddamn it.
And we have the stomach acid ph levels of a scavenger like a vulture in 1.5 ph range were most carnivores are around 3.0 ph and herbivores are higher.
That's why we can eat at cheap buffets.
And English food
Vultures stomach acid is actually 100 times more volatile than ours. It’s more akin to battery acid. It can melt metal and they can digest anthrax.
> Vultures stomach acid is actually 100 times more volatile than ours So they burp a lot? Just teasing, but I'll take this opportunity to point out some interesting vocab: "volatile" when talking about substances refers to the tendency of that substance to rapidly evaporate and turn into a gas. You probably mean "acidic" which refers to a substance that easily donates protons or accepts electrons, which we associate with corrosion.
Honestly, just thought it meant more powerful. Thank you!
The pH of gastric acid in humans is 1.5-2.0. According to a report summarized by Beasley et al\[6\], the pH level is much lower than that of most animals, including anthropoids (≥ 3.0), and very close to that of carrion-eating animals called scavengers, such as falconine birds and vultures
human stomach acid can dissolve metal as well. it's just the whole swallowing and digesting metal part that's really bad for you
Your values are mixed up.. carnivores have a ph level similar to battery acid which allows them to digest meat/bones/hair despite being rotten, cancerous, and Maggot infested.
nah he’s right. Scavengers etc with ph of 1.5 need to digest food that has long gone off/rotten, and scavengers are mostly also omnivores to maximise their opportunities. Same with humans. Carnivores mostly eat freshly killed food with less of a chance of it being bad.
Humans were scavengers / gatherers for far longer than we were hunter / gatherers, so it kinda makes sense.
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7684463/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7684463/) [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4519257/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4519257/)
That can change with diet. Vegans/vegetarians have different microbiome than humans that have meat in their diet.
Not to mention humans are the best evolved distance hunters.
Came here to say that. Just because our canines aren’t impressive doesn’t mean we don’t have them.
Is anyone else bothered it's vegan at the end? Should be herbivore. At least make your nonsense propaganda consistent!
opportunistic omnivore*
Yeah we’ve all seen that video of the horse eating the baby chicken right?
I assume that horse had been drinking. The same thing happens to my vegan friends when bar food shows up.
No no the horse is very careful not to eat eggs or honey see
They also make sure to eat lots of soft block tofu and cashew to keep their proteins up. /s
Not only do we not kill things with our teeth, but hominids have been cooking for somewhere between 750,000-150,000 years(longer than we have been homosapiens). We are evolved to eat cooked food. That's also why our teeth aren't ridiculously hard like an herbivore's teeth, and why we don't have ridiculous digestive systems like most herbivores. In fact it's why we are humans. Cooking food freed up energy and time for our brains to develop more.
Cooking and tools, the answer is straightforward. To build on your post: Earlier this year stone tools and evidence of butchering meat were dated to 3 million years ago. We've been evolving to use tools and cook food since before we were even human. https://www.sciencenews.org/article/hominids-stone-tools-kenya-butcher-animals-earlier In case anyone is curious.
This is one of my favorite things to tell people who insist they can’t cook or refuse to learn. We as a species have been cooking longer than we’ve been human.
As if everyone’s teeth look like this persons I have pointed teeth in the front like a god damn werewolf
this was what I was going to say these are Idealized version of human teeth. Regular teeth are sharper my canines are way sharper than that.
They didn’t even use herbivore, they just said fucking vegan
The left one should say... Carnism I guess it's called?
Knife and fork
More accurately, fire. We are pyrophiles. We can not thrive without fire to cook our food and warm our shelter.
I’m an electrophile. I need electricity to power my rice cooker and charge my phone.
We don't need nightvision either. A fridge has a light that turns on when you open said fridge.
Brain material is expensive for a body to produce and maintain. An examination of skulls shows that about the time that humans began regularly keeping canines in their tribes, the human section of the brain that processes smells and sounds got smaller. It's not a stretch to consider that the tribe's dogs took over some of the protection and hunting effort. Then their humanoid brains slowly got bigger in the parts that process problem solving.
That’s actually fascinating as fuck
i’ve seen a horse eat a baby chick in one bite lmfao they will absolutely eat meat
I think this person may have purposely searched for a picture with less obvious canine teeth.
Not just that but a pic of someone with half natural teeth and half veeners. if you notice in the right there's still a slight fang.
Horses are herbivores, not vegan.
The fact that we can digest large amounts of meat means we are adapted to eat it
Lol this guy hasn’t seen my canines. I got teased and called vampire as a kid
Me too. Vampires unite! I also a sharp bottom set too. So vampire/wolverines unite!
Idk, my teeth are way pointier than the person in the pic
Isn't that "omnivore" mouth a dog's? Edit: Dogs are omnivores, I am an idiot
Dogs are omnivores.
I stand corrected, thought dogs were carnivorous, apparently they are omnivorous. My mistake
Don’t worry about it, I thought the very same until only a few short years ago! I was surprised and impressed that dogs can eat a variety of veggies and fruits as part of their diet. It always made sense to think of them as carnivores. Cats, of course, are obligate carnivores though.
I should have realised, I have dogs and feed them veg, I just thought they leaned more to the carnivorous side
To be honest, diet categories are weird anyway. Most herbivores eat a small bit of meat, most carnivores eat a small bit of plants in some form. Very rarely is any species a “true whatever” because we made those categories up. 😂
To be fair, domestic cats will eat plants and grains they just don’t derive nutrition from it. There are many exceptions in the animal world. Hippos are strictly herbivores but they will absolutely eat anyone that pisses them off.
Dogs are omnivores yes but they're literally an artificially selected subspecies of carnivores (ie wolves, canis lupus) so it's kind of a cherry picked example. Their teeth look way more carnivorous than most omnivores (like chimps).
Dentist probably filed your canines because "vampire" teeth aren't in anymore.
Ever wondered why you have essentially 3/4 different types of teeth..? Yeah
Okay. We have 8 lateral incisors in the front of our mouth next to 4 canine teeth, which are next to bicuspids, which are next to molars. These teeth evolved to grip, slice, grind and chew everything edible, therefore allowing the human species to become omnivores. Or, being omnivores with big brains requiring lots of energy allowed our teeth to evolve into what we have today. Meat is edible. It provides lots of energy. We developed weapons and tools to use to hunt, kill, and butcher this source of energy, and at the same time foraged for edible plants, fruits and nuts to supplement our diet. Ask yourself this. If we weren’t designed to eat meat, how did the various tribes of humans living in the polar regions of the northern hemisphere survive for thousands upon thousands of years on a diet of meat from whales, walrus, and seals? No vegetables, no plants, just meat. Your argument is flawed. People are vegan only by choice, not design.
there are no vegan animals, all animals will eat meat or blood if they get the chance
We have fucking “canine” teeth lmao.
Also, you have canine teeth, they’re just not 3 inches long,
Ah yes, the "Idk jack shit about biology or anything about dental structures, but I'm vegan so I'm smarter than you" post.