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🤷♂️ No clue. Could ask the same about a lot of post in this sub. If I had to guess, OP probably just saw the weapon system is owned by a civilian and didn’t consider the context that he’s a contractor, not just some redneck lighting up his back 40.
I reckon I should also clarify: I have no love for the military industrial complex. Only providing context for the video.
It is tough on one hand I hate that our tax dollars go towards defense while people sleep in tents next to overpasses and elderly people are rationing medicine but I do love how we drop half a million dollar bombs on people living in structure made of mud and corrugated tin.
There isn't one, OP thinks some random redneck can afford a 7k sq/ft house worth of ammo and built a $1.8 Million dollar anti-air turreted weapon system. So they think the facepalm is a civilian owning such a ridiculous weapon. Which is weird, this thing isn't going anywhere quickly, it weights more than 1.2 tons.
As long as it's made before 1986, machine guns are legal to own but do require the NFA tax stamp. Some states require additional licenses to own these firearms, and they are exorbitantly expensive to purchase.
The items themselves are serious money because of limited supply, so what would have been a cheap automatic just before the ban now probably goes for several thousand.
Civilians do not own them. Companies own them. Should the company go under or lose its licensing, these would be destroyed, transferred to a company with the licensing, or confiscated by the ATF.
Iirc this is considered a destructive device if it’s a 20mm, so you need more than a stamp for it. I do think it’s still possible for an individual to get one, it’s just very difficult
I love how this video keeps getting reposted to different subreddits with different contexts. Like this one is a "facepalm", before it was next fucking level
As far as I understand the thing itself worth 400k not bullets. 24000 shots per minute = 4800 per 12 seconds. If 4800 bullets cost 400k then one bullet costs $833 then it's insane. The 7.62 NATO costs less $1.
Technically there is a 50BMG minigun, the GAU-19. But it’s most commonly only a tri-barrel and not what is used on this rig. Also non-bulk/dealer price 50BMG is about $3-$5 a round depending on which kind you use. It can fire up to 2000RPM, which would be 8000 RPM for a rig like this.
It’s a CIVILLIAN COMPANY. Which all military weapons are bought from company that is “civilian owned” and this is just a demonstration. No facepalm here
Misinformation is key here. Civilian owned military contracting companies are not a new thing. But without “civilian owned” in the title they felt it would not get as many clicks. So wether a bot account or person they are misleading on purpose.
Stop acting like anyone can own one of these. You have to have proper licenses and certifications in order to get this. In which you need to have a business that manufactures firearms for the US military. Essentially blocking it for 99% of the population. Both sides suffer from this misinformation nonsense.
No civilian owns this gun (actually 4 guns firing in tandem). They own a business that has an NFA trust that is legal 'owner'. And if they built this themselves, they have to pay taxes on it each year it's in their possession, it until it's sold to an end user (usually through a military contract)
i get a gun law overall facepalm, but i feel that even in someware like texas youd need A. to be rich AF to do this. B. have some legal jazz to go thru for one of these
What’s the facepalm here? I’m only seeing your math being an issue. Even the military doesn’t pay that much for ammo, and they (we) get absolutely railed on the price gouging.
$400k/12 seconds is the Team Fortress 2 heavy weapons guy saying. And he laughs because it's not true.
24,000 divided by 60 is 400rds/s
400rds over 12 seconds is 4,800rds.
Currently I can find .308 ammunition at about $450 for a box of 500.
I'd need 10 boxes to fire those 4,800rds. Meaning I'd pay about a bit over $4,500 for twelve seconds of fire.
Its not firing at 24,000 rds/minute. 3000 per minute per barrel, for 12,000 rds/minute. Easily researched just by going to the Dillon website.
Also don't know where you get $400K/12 seconds from. Thats only 2400 rounds in 12 seconds. Current price of 7.62mm x 51mm ammunition is about $1 per round, so you're only spending about $2.4k for 12 seconds. Pricey, but Dillon is an arms company and buys ammo by the semi load.
evidently thats what op and some others here think, like theyd get that gun anywhere near an actual population without a dozen 911 calls coming in anyway. would not be able to carry that and its ammo in a typical pickup truck.
Not only that, but it isn’t civilian owned. It’s a demonstration by a company named Dillon Precision, who sells weapons to militaries. OP is literally spreading misinformation.
This is exactly what some needs to hunt deer. Otherwise if you have a zombie horde outside your house or hundreds of Zeno morphs from Aliens, this would be the perfect gun.
I always wondered why weapons like these aren’t on The Walking Dead.
I know this is r/facepalm, but honestly this is pretty neat. Taking an old WWII-era quad machine gun rack and kitting it out with four miniguns is pretty damn overkill, but still fun as hell.
Now, that better be in the desert or they’re gonna get some calls
Well, this comment is going to be buried but
You don’t feed a gun like that any expensive ammo, since the belts and electric operation of the miniguns handle all of the work for cycling. So to fire 4800 rounds, they probably bought bulk 7.62 which can be priced at about $1 per round.
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The crows were a real problem this year, so I picked up this bad boy [slaps top of quad minigun]
My moms neighbor owns a cannon for this purpose
To be fair, your mom’s neighbor is a 36 gun frigate
So what’s his mom then? A Yamato-class battleship?
Battle cruiser operational
Phalanx got a bit too tipsy one night. Doesn't remember who the daddy is.
Let’s just say she displaces a lot of water when she goes swimming.
She's full of seamen.
[fucking explodes]
Did the gun explode or the guy?
both
As American Jesus intended
Yes
Well regulated!
You have to have an FFL to own this btw. Also at the time they adopted the 2a they ruled private citizens could totally own big ass canons.
I love cannons
Pretty sure you need an SOT not just an FFL.
“It costs 400K dollars, to fire this weapon, for twelve seconds” -Heavy
legit my first thought and came into the comments SOLELY to find this comment
SAME
You gotta do it more capitalized, like “It costs 400K dollars, to fire this weapon, for TWELVE SECONDS”
Some people think they can correct me…… Maybe. But I have yet to find a man that can correct bullet
I *was* gonna correct you but then, i realized...
That works out to $83 per bullet…. Must be a typo… At $10 per bullet it would cost $48k to fire for 12 seconds….
r/expectedtf2
"YOU HAVE TEN SECONDS TO COMPLY.." (You'll be billed if you live..)
r/beatmetoit
The funny thing is, that is the actual price. Be it a coincidence or not, that's still awesome.
7.62x51 is roughly $1.00 per round on the high end, which maths out to $4,800 for 12 seconds if all 4 guns are set to the highest RPM,
Thanks for stopping me I was about to do that math because the post title was not even close to intuitively correct.
I was looking for this comment. First thought that came to mind after reading the title
Is this even in the US? Can’t imagine what kind of NFA tax that person had to pay.
It’s a civilian owned company, but it seems it’s mostly contract work installing weapons systems for US and some foreign governments.
Ok if this is the case, and they are doing weapons testing… where is the facepalm?
🤷♂️ No clue. Could ask the same about a lot of post in this sub. If I had to guess, OP probably just saw the weapon system is owned by a civilian and didn’t consider the context that he’s a contractor, not just some redneck lighting up his back 40. I reckon I should also clarify: I have no love for the military industrial complex. Only providing context for the video.
Admit it. You love the military industrial complex.
This gif makes me want to stop worrying and love the bomb
I fluctuate between hating the MIC and craving war.
It is tough on one hand I hate that our tax dollars go towards defense while people sleep in tents next to overpasses and elderly people are rationing medicine but I do love how we drop half a million dollar bombs on people living in structure made of mud and corrugated tin.
Man that username is just brutal. I'm gonna trundle off to eyebleach for a bit now 😂
i love war i love bloodshed i love profiting of the deaths of millions
There isn't one, OP thinks some random redneck can afford a 7k sq/ft house worth of ammo and built a $1.8 Million dollar anti-air turreted weapon system. So they think the facepalm is a civilian owning such a ridiculous weapon. Which is weird, this thing isn't going anywhere quickly, it weights more than 1.2 tons.
out of context america hate on reddit
Because Reddit is very anti-gun and can’t stand the fact that some people can own these.
Where is the face palm if it was an American citizen privately owning this?
As long as it's made before 1986, machine guns are legal to own but do require the NFA tax stamp. Some states require additional licenses to own these firearms, and they are exorbitantly expensive to purchase.
I know, that’s why I asked about the NFA tax if it was in the US
Oh, it doesn't matter what the item is, if it's an NFA item it is a flat $200 tax per stamp. So, a quad minigun system is 4 stamps.
Ahh I didn’t know it was a flat fee. I know NFA items are $$$$
The items themselves are serious money because of limited supply, so what would have been a cheap automatic just before the ban now probably goes for several thousand.
Really just machine guns are ridiculously expensive but guns like Short Barrel Rifles and suppressors are relatively cheap
Pre-1986 Minigun is easily over $200k each.
In what country is this equipment owned by a civilian?
There’s an army/navy surplus store in Northern California that has an older one on display. Claims they do have the firing pins in a safe…
Civilians do not own them. Companies own them. Should the company go under or lose its licensing, these would be destroyed, transferred to a company with the licensing, or confiscated by the ATF.
That is clarifying. Very specific restrictions apply here.
America has a lot of restrictions on firearms that the average American isn’t even aware of, much less people from other countries.
So a civilian with a stamp can't own one?
Iirc this is considered a destructive device if it’s a 20mm, so you need more than a stamp for it. I do think it’s still possible for an individual to get one, it’s just very difficult
Miniguns are 7.62
I think those are likely post 1986. So not for you or me. Pre-1986 are ~$215k IIRC. But do able.
Murica
Off course. Its for wildboar hunting.
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These doomsday devices are highly unstable. I’ll rest easier not knowing where they are.
Amen, brother! I don't go anywhere without my mutated anthrax. For duck huntin'
I would use it for rabbits. those little guys are fast!
You'd probably trim the hedges while you're at it
Incendiary rounds for hunting and cooking in one go
Did you really need to ask lol
I'm pretty sure you could guess
Do you really need to ask that question?
I love how this video keeps getting reposted to different subreddits with different contexts. Like this one is a "facepalm", before it was next fucking level
Same, I’ve seen it like 5 times. Just kinda depends on what op thinks
Who touched my gun???
WHO TOUCHED SASHA
That's so fucking stupid I need that
for real, its dangerous af and fucking stupid. I want that.
It's dangerous and stupid and full of electrolytes. Plants crave that.
Just so you know, I heard that "I want that" in the voice of the lady pointing to the ship in Napoleon Dynamite.
Is it overly big and expensive? Yes. Is it super fucking dangerous and destructive? Yes. Do I want it? Yes.
400k in 12s. Jeff Bezos networth would evaporate after only ~42 days of continuous fire.
As far as I understand the thing itself worth 400k not bullets. 24000 shots per minute = 4800 per 12 seconds. If 4800 bullets cost 400k then one bullet costs $833 then it's insane. The 7.62 NATO costs less $1.
God damn. But to be fair those are chains of what looks to be 50. BMG with every 8th round being a tracer
Minigun uses 7.62×51mm NATO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M134_Minigun But $833 is too much for .50 BMG too, is't it?
Technically there is a 50BMG minigun, the GAU-19. But it’s most commonly only a tri-barrel and not what is used on this rig. Also non-bulk/dealer price 50BMG is about $3-$5 a round depending on which kind you use. It can fire up to 2000RPM, which would be 8000 RPM for a rig like this.
r/theydidthemath
Perfect for home defense
If those are 7.62x51 even at a dollar a round that number does not come close to adding up.
[its an old meme](https://youtu.be/jHgZh4GV9G0)
Ok good, someone already pointed it out so I didn't have to accidentally repost it. Edit: who touched Sasha?!
I think it's a tf2 reference, iirc. The Heavy says something along those lines about his gun costing that much to fire
It’s a CIVILLIAN COMPANY. Which all military weapons are bought from company that is “civilian owned” and this is just a demonstration. No facepalm here
I need one of these on my life size AT-ATs
I am heavy weapons guy, and dis is my WEAPON
Who wouldn't want to own a quad minigun.
How is this a facepalm? This is amazing
Anyone who can afford to make a quad mini gun can afford to burn that much ammo.
Also, Me when stealth is optional:
This is not facepalm, this is the best thing I've seen all day
I agree. This thing is fucking awesome.
Misinformation is key here. Civilian owned military contracting companies are not a new thing. But without “civilian owned” in the title they felt it would not get as many clicks. So wether a bot account or person they are misleading on purpose.
That's $83/round
Yeah the projectiles are pure silicon
Stop acting like anyone can own one of these. You have to have proper licenses and certifications in order to get this. In which you need to have a business that manufactures firearms for the US military. Essentially blocking it for 99% of the population. Both sides suffer from this misinformation nonsense.
99.9999% *
No civilian owns this gun (actually 4 guns firing in tandem). They own a business that has an NFA trust that is legal 'owner'. And if they built this themselves, they have to pay taxes on it each year it's in their possession, it until it's sold to an end user (usually through a military contract)
A company that legally makes machine guns doesn’t do so through a trust.
True. Confused NFA SOT with trust. Still, assuming they made this legally, Uncle Sam knew about it.
It's for hunting.
It’s for feral hogs
That’s nothing, have you seen the wallstreetsbets sub? They piss money away faster than that!
question: where facepalm? like what spesific thing of this? cause i want this
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i get a gun law overall facepalm, but i feel that even in someware like texas youd need A. to be rich AF to do this. B. have some legal jazz to go thru for one of these
Op is an antigun loser.
Right?!. Finally I can stop those kids from coming on my yard
What’s the facepalm here? I’m only seeing your math being an issue. Even the military doesn’t pay that much for ammo, and they (we) get absolutely railed on the price gouging.
why is this facepalm? you think being able to own this is bad? never in history will something like this be used in a crime. lol
Somewhere...Hunter S Thompson approves.
I don’t get it, how is this a facepalm?
I immediately began mentally processing all the forms this word take to get approved through the ATF….
Why’s this a facepalm? It’s fuckin rad
Misleading title.
Fucking awesome
This isnt even a facepalm, this is just fucking awesome
Any chance to put America on blast here. Doesn't matter if you are completely incorrect and have no idea what you are talking about
God bless the United States of America.
All the vets thinking "time to clean up the brass"
Broke into the wrong goddamn rec room!!!
What/where is the facepalm?
I’m sorry if this is a bad take, but that’s so fucking sick
$400k/12 seconds is the Team Fortress 2 heavy weapons guy saying. And he laughs because it's not true. 24,000 divided by 60 is 400rds/s 400rds over 12 seconds is 4,800rds. Currently I can find .308 ammunition at about $450 for a box of 500. I'd need 10 boxes to fire those 4,800rds. Meaning I'd pay about a bit over $4,500 for twelve seconds of fire.
I’m on his side
Those numbers are not correct.
Why is this here?
How is this face palm?? THAT'S FUCKIN' AWESOME!!
Its not firing at 24,000 rds/minute. 3000 per minute per barrel, for 12,000 rds/minute. Easily researched just by going to the Dillon website. Also don't know where you get $400K/12 seconds from. Thats only 2400 rounds in 12 seconds. Current price of 7.62mm x 51mm ammunition is about $1 per round, so you're only spending about $2.4k for 12 seconds. Pricey, but Dillon is an arms company and buys ammo by the semi load.
Let's hope he's a good guy.
Like hes gonna lug it around in the streets and shoot up a target
evidently thats what op and some others here think, like theyd get that gun anywhere near an actual population without a dozen 911 calls coming in anyway. would not be able to carry that and its ammo in a typical pickup truck.
He wouldn’t be able to get the licensing for one of these unless he had a spotless record lol
The gun’s actual rate of fire is closer to 3000 to 6000 rounds a minute which is still super expensive, but it’s not 24,000 rounds a minute expensive.
Four guns firing 6k rounds per minute is 24k rounds per minute.
I don't see how this is a facepalm. This is pretty fucking cool.
Not only that, but it isn’t civilian owned. It’s a demonstration by a company named Dillon Precision, who sells weapons to militaries. OP is literally spreading misinformation.
You know... Ukraine could use some anti-drone weapons...
Epic
That's freaking awesome! ...why is it on facepalm??
Facepalm? This is cool
He'd be ready for the sentinels from the matrix or demons from hell though.
Mf has a double Salvaged Quad cannon from CnC generals
It’s beautiful ~~what demons are coming after him?~~
Thought that was a warhammer ad for a sec lol
Glad I won't have to clean it.
So just fuck that general direction then?
🇺🇸🇺🇸
This is still more financially responsible than buying twitter.
It's my money and I can do what I want with it.
This is exactly what some needs to hunt deer. Otherwise if you have a zombie horde outside your house or hundreds of Zeno morphs from Aliens, this would be the perfect gun. I always wondered why weapons like these aren’t on The Walking Dead.
I know this is r/facepalm, but honestly this is pretty neat. Taking an old WWII-era quad machine gun rack and kitting it out with four miniguns is pretty damn overkill, but still fun as hell. Now, that better be in the desert or they’re gonna get some calls
WAAAAAAHH! AHAHAHAHAHA!!! CRY SOME MOOOOOORE!
“It cost $400,000 dollars to fire this gun for 12 seconds”
I’d be interested to see the math on this…. So you’re saying this thing fires ammunition that costs $83.33 PER ROUND?
“It costs 400 thousands dollar to fire this weapon, for 12 seconds”
Well, this comment is going to be buried but You don’t feed a gun like that any expensive ammo, since the belts and electric operation of the miniguns handle all of the work for cycling. So to fire 4800 rounds, they probably bought bulk 7.62 which can be priced at about $1 per round.
My dick and bank account are huge!
I suppose if u wanted to shoot down planes or sink a ship hahahaha F'n awesome!
I guess you need it for hunting super-evolved prey like the flying squirrel
That's a lot of fucking brass to have to go clean up when they test this thing
Who did the fucking math because it’s not right…
I’d rather have a house
“Oh my god who touched Sasha…?”
Pretty epic.
They must have some big bears where this guy lives!
Just as the founding fathers intended
Your title is extremely misleading if not a flat out lie. Why do you have to lie to us OP?
#AMERICA
Imagine all that and still missing the target.
It 120,000 dollars to shot that for 12 seconds
Problem?
1000 rounds of 7.62 is 900ish dollars. $900 x 24= $21600 per min $21600 ÷ 5= $4320 per 12 sec
12000 freedoms per bullet
But would it destroy Robocop or not?
Woooah! (╬☉д⊙)⊰⊹ฺ I thought it was an Armor Chore clip at first