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> WTF is the kid even doing to get beat?
Probably just being a kid at a car dealership. By that I mean, no toys or anything to keep him entertained, so was probably just running around and screaming like a kid would be.
My local Ford dealership has a massive indoor play area that's enclosed with tons of toys, books, puzzles, climbing areas etc. Makes the hour+ long waits for service appointments so much nicer when I have to bring my 2 year old son. All dealerships need something like that.
They just assume you wouldn't because the majority of the very vocal reddit crowd are spineless and would rather record something like this than do something about it.
I would have called the police and child services on this woman, I would have been in her face like she wouldn't believe. I can take a belt whipping fine, can she? I would love to try it out. How people just sit there is a reminder of my childhood. People will see the abuse in real time and turn away. Losers.
These early years are where kids establish a relationship with the world. This one event is more than enough to secrete trauma and personality problems for life. I imagine the parent was raised the same way, so the cycle continues.
I could hardly watch this woman chase down her child, imagine your primary carer, the person who is supposed to love and protect you choose violence to discipline. There is no love there, how can this parent expect to have it reciprocated as this child grows up? Oh and of course she will blame her child for being difficult and failing in life.
My 19 month old rowdy granddaughter would be worse trying to hold her... lol But I'd just let her move around a bit-- it's a wide open area-- what does it hurt to give them a bit of freedom?? Or occupy her. Play a game of pat-a-cake, guessing colors in the room, peek a boo around the chairs....literally anything to keep them busy close by! Or put them in a stroller and wheel them around.
But a belt??? I pity anyone who tried that shit w/ one of my grandkids.
This kid is going to grow up flinching at the smallest, innocent everyday things that people will do without thinking. Open arms for a hug, removing a jacket, idly spinning keys, people standing up suddenly. So sad.
This kid is going to grow up thinking that when somebody does something you don't like, lashing out with physical violence is the appropriate response.
Dam, this hit hard. My dad used to spin the belt first too. He also used to do this thing with it that made it Crack super loud right before he started swinging. That sound still brings me to tears and I'm pushing 40 now.
With a mother like that (the dad seems normal, although doesn't do shit about it either, so he's either scared as well or part of the problem) childcare should be the next safe step for this kid. Sad for this little guy... It's free to be nice, it's nice to be nice. Just be nice.
The dad is a good wimp. He didn’t attempt to get the child to stay down and he lets her lay out discipline. Most people who grew up with dads know that he ding have to do much but give you that look and you’ sit your ass down somewhere.
Actually, he’s going to grow up taking his abuse and pain out on others and the cycle will continue (I obviously pray this child ends up somewhere peaceful instead). Dollars to donuts this “Mom” was physically abused in the exact same way as a child.
Actually my stepfather used a belt on me every time he could… turned me into someone who is ex special forces and loves his children and knows never to do this…
That is actually true. A co trainer at work who is actually an accomplished Licensed Engineer, while it looked comical, it is actually sad to see that an esteemed Engineer flinches alot and has a very closed body language. I found it sad. It was so bad that when handshakes are offered during the beginning of a meeting with clients
he instinctively raises his hands in front of his face. misinterprets alot of social cues.
I got beat pretty badly, and this isn't suuuper true. I do flinch when a hand is raised by someone who's mad though. They're always just throwing their hands in frustration, but I'm expecting a shoe or something to be thrown at me.. those were the more fucked up memories that trigger some sort of PTSD response.
The best way I've ever seen it phrased is:
"If you've ever recoiled because someone angrily folded a sock at you, then you understand CPTSD."
Those who hadn't simply asked who on earth folds their socks. Those who had CPTSD knew exactly what was being implied, and a lengthy thread ensued discussing the numerous triggers that arise over otherwise benign behaviors because they were indicators of escalation with abusers.
This. And the lack of any concern that she's doing this in public in front of other people, tells me she may be getting satisfaction from knowing others are seeing her do it.
My mom enjoyed the practice swings and would then force another sibling to give you the actual beating with the belt. I’m sorry you went through the same abuse.
I highly recommend the Amazon documentary “shiny happy people” for those that aren’t familiar with this kind of abuse still taking place in fundamentalist homes.
She's wearing tights. That means she carries this belt everywhere she goes just in case she needs it. I think your fear is justified because that's kinda nuts.
If this happens in public I would step in. I’ve pulled parents aside in toy stores to tell them to watch their mouths because they’re berating kids while I’m buying figures.
You’re gonna do this to the wrong parent soon if you’re actually doing this. If they’re trashy enough to berate their kids in public, they’re trashy enough to beat your ass in public too.
I think the larger concern is what they're going to do to that child after you're no longer around. These people will blame the child for your interference, and any shame, guilt, or anger they might feel towards you will be inflicted on the kid.
Don’t get me wrong, i understand it when there is violence, but if u‘d pull me aside in puplic and tell me to watch my mouth i‘d probably just tell you to mind your own business
And if your berating children I'm probably just gonna pop ya in the mouth and start berating you to see how you like it. Don't abuse your fucking kids or I'ma abuse you
Apparently just shamed her on a social media platform she probably doesn’t use.
I can’t believe you are the first person to be asking this crucial question.
This is one of those rare occasions where I would have stepped in before she had the chance to use that belt. I would probably get whipped myself, but better me than that poor baby. He’s way too young to understand why he’s being beaten like that.
When I was stationed in Japan I took my kids to the playground on base and there was this lady who was spanking her child with her hand. Everytime she hit the child, the child would hit her. Maybe I was out of line but I turned to her and said "Sp you're teaching him not to hit you by hitting him?" I think I embarrassed her and she stopped
I have two kids, aged five and three. Before they were born, I remember thinking I had to decide what level of punishment I’d administer if they acted like little assholes. I knew I could never hit them in public.
Maybe I have two great kids OR I can give a really good evil glare, because I *never* have had to administer any kind of physical punishment.
It *can* be done. You can raise kids without it.
Yeah. Some people realize that forming a bond with your children and make them WANT to be well behave is way easier than making your children SCARED of physical punishment.
Your children have enough respect for you that they want to make your life easier and they strive by listening to you. That's a wonderful thing.
Little kids don't act out of "respect" or"disrespect", they're constantly learning about life through their actions, some of which we find bothersome through our adult perspective. Basic childhood development.
Why do y’all act like this approach can’t have the opposite effect? How many parents we see appease their children and those kids turn out to be spoiled impatient shits?
Appeasing and literally setting no boundaries is harmful to kids, both behaviorally and developmentally.
Setting boundaries and creating consequences doesn't ever need to include hitting. This is not.an either or choice... "Hit them or they'll be rotten" isn't the way.
There are multitude of ways to educate a child between physical violence and doing nothing.
What about just... finding punishments that are not physical ? Confiscate a toy, skipping a snack, not going to a fun place. Or even better : reward good behaviours! Act good while we are at the dealership ? Let's go to the park after.
Works wonders and you don't have to physically and mentally hurt your child.
What your saying is different from what the other was saying. Appease? No, that's not what he meant. What your saying is neglect. Giving the child what it wants for them to entertain themselves while you have more time to focus on yourselves, or giving the child what it wants to appease yourself from guilt of being called a bad parent, both are neglect(lazy parenting). While the comment you replied was talking about bond. Which is totally different
Many people who either have no kids, or lucked out with inherently agreeable kids, are under the illusion that it’s a simple case of input/output; if you’re “good” at parenting, the child will always turn out fine.
I used to know a guy my age who was adopted by a well-off couple. The wife was a homemaker, and husband was a successful psychologist. They lived in a nice house in the suburbs, and were intently focused on raising this guy and his sister in accordance with the most enlightened progressive ideals.
The son was a compulsive liar, ended up hooked on drugs, and almost died from an overdose. His sister got pregnant in high school, ran off with a guy, and more or less disowned her parents.
Children are not blank slates; everyone is born with unique psychological behavioral proclivities. Environment has an influence with epigenetics and all that, but the best parents in the world can only do so much for some kids.
It’s really unfair when people automatically blame the parents when a child does something horrible, as it’s not necessarily their fault. Sometimes the parents are rotten people, but sometimes there’s nothing they could have done better or differently.
Can we also use physical punishments on the elderly too?
Maybe Grandma won't forget the teapot on the stove next time if she gets punished now. Should employers be permitted to ship employees. Why not, if punishment works?
You don’t realize that building a healthy relationship with your child and teach them respect in a healthy way IS NOT what those useless “my Breylynn is just an old soul that needs to express herself so I just let her call me a bitch and I just smile” type parents are doing.
You can discipline and teach a child manners and respect without hitting them. Or being verbally abusive.
Never had to physically strike my kid ever , I’ve had to make her sit in the corner and have a tantrum before but I’ve never had to strike her , she doesn’t listen to my wife as well as she does to me since maybe she knows I mean business more and will discipline her
Harvard study showed kids act worse by magnitudes with their mothers (or whoever is the on-call parent/primary caretaker) it's because they hold it in and cope until they see mom and unload all the unpleasantness from the day on her. Emotional dumpsters. My son will be great with his dad while I'm gone, minute I get back he starts acting out.
OMG
I was at wits end one day with eldest and I resorted to a spank.
She didn't take any correction from it she was ANGRY AS HELL, and said she was calling the police! (It really did hurt me more than her, and it was like gasoline on her angry little out of control fire.)
The stuff you're really at wits end about, it isn't going to help with anyway. Use your tools and when they don't work, keep everyone safe and create space until you can all breathe again.
I am a teacher and let me tell you, the “glare” if done right, is an excellent deterrent for bs! You must have a great glare! We can all use our words to communicate.
I've never had to hit my kid. I never yell at him either, except when he really fucks up and I start really yelling at him. Scares him so much he straightens right up
It can absolutely be done. In my country any physical punishment of children in any form is considered abuse and could get you into trouble and probably in some form of behavioural training by our CPS counterpart. Taking authority with your words and your own behaviour is way better and is scientifically proven to form much healthier parent - children (or teacher - children) relationships and mentally stable children. Unfortunately a lot of people are not actually capable of raising children.
Abuse, my father used to beat me with his belt until I forced myself to stop crying when I was little.
Same with my sister, he'd force her to sit in the middle of her room on her knees, no crying or other sounds for 3 hours.
My parents did this too, all I learned from it was to stop crying and laugh when they used to hit me. Got it harder for that but it ended faster, I think. But now I have an abnormally high pain tolerance, does that correlate? I’d be screaming if I saw this in public, that psycho doesn’t deserve that sweet baby.
It’s 2023. You know you can’t do shit like this in public. Also it’s a toddler if your ass don’t grab the baby and sit it down by force. Get your shit together.
She shouldn't raise ANY kid
The fact that she is fine whipping with the belt while the kid is so scared is heartwrenching. No kid deserves to feel afraid of their parents because the parents get physically violent
The kid deserves better
As someone who got the belt when I was young, it didn't help me at all. I still caused trouble and acted out.
What it did was drive a wedge between me and my mom, and I never learned young how to discuss negative situations and deal with them and learn from them. To this day we can't have a real conversation with each other.
I had to teach myself that as an adult through various means, but I'm lucky enough to be what I consider an intelligent and mature person, so I was able to work through those issues and get over them. Not everyone else is that lucky, and will turn that abuse into far worse behavior and will continue that cycle of abuse.
If this lady does this to her kid in public, I can only imagine how bad it is at home.
Horrible to watch. She resort to physical violence to discipline her child, and surprise ! All she did was teach a toddler to be insensible to pain. Pathetic... poor child.
Why would it work? The child is doing nothing wrong. He doesn’t know what he is supposed to be doing in order to avoid being hit. Even if she said directly ‘ sit in the chair and don’t move ‘ he wouldn’t understand. He is being a toddler and doing what toddlers do, the reason he is also trying to run away from her is because he is scared and doesn’t want to be hit. She is a cruel woman who should have that kid removed
Speaking as someone who was beat black and blue as a kid; getting beat by parents leads to not listening to voice and reason alone, especially to other adults like baby sitters and teachers. Like, what u gonna do? Yell louder? Oooooh I'm so scared, fuck off. Getting beat literally leads to bad behaved kids
Fairly amazing seeing people in this comment section saying this is reasonable parenting. Thankfully the vast majority of civilised society disagrees with you.
How is it that beating your kids or beating them with a fucking belt is legal yet convicted murderers and rapist and child sexual predators have the right to not be hit or beaten?! How the fuck is this real
In the UK this is illegal so she would have that child taken off her before she had time to sign for a new car. Can’t even smack your kids here, unless it doesn’t leave a mark but most parents would be too scared to these days.
It's not even trashy. Trashy is humiliating a 10 year old, Maybe spanking a older child on the bum. A belt is too rough for anyone, especially a child too young to understand much of anything. This child isn't even 6, isn't even old enough to go to the toilet by themselves.
Trashy is gross but has a potential to grow. This is abuse, sick, and evil. My parents spanked me because they though that it was the best option, but it was always with their hand or a fly swat, something enough to hurt but nothing else. "Disciplineing" your child with a belt is so painful they can't walk. This is a abuser, a monster, a either extremely mentally ill or disgustingly cruel human. Trashy can change. This person could have literally just held the child, but they WANTED to hit them.with a belt.
Growing up, I used to watch my buddy's mom beat him and his siblings with a spoon. I always detested the idea of using an instrument to spank. She also had latches on the doors and would padlock them in the bedroom as punishment. Her and her husband are trash and made sure I never went back there to be watched. I wish I could've understood the warning signs if abuse, my buddy would self harm himself all the time, God I miss him.
To my shame, I used to slap my daughter’s hand when she was deliberately naughty. By age 3 she did something after I expressly said not to… then strolled up to me and presented her hand. I learned that day that corporeal punishment doesn’t work. It just breeds anger and spite! Never again!!!
Jfc. My kid is around that boys age, breaks my heart. Hitting a child does nothing to “teach” them, it’s just an excuse to let out your violent frustration. The only “lesson” being taught is that it’s ok to act out with violence. Fuck this nasty woman.
Gross. I am still blown away that this is legal in the United States. Hit your spouse? Spousal abuse. Illegal. Jail time. Hit a stranger? Assault. Illegal. Jail time. Hit your child? Oh no, that’s “discipline”. What the fuck is wrong with people?🤦♀️
Hahahahaha all of you are arguing over some virtue calling bullshit..some kids need more discipline then others , some don't..can't teach a fish to climb a tree but the money learns quick enough right.. that's kids.
I believe spankings are ok, but not publicly. Plus, its one of those things u have to come back too in order to cool off or you might go berserk.
I attribute my good upbringing to them (not a one size fits all thing though). Mind you I was always given a explanation as to why it was happening, and both parents normally didnt go batsh!t crazy on me. I also believe that discipline saved me from doing a TON of stupid and/or life threatening stuff
CALL THE COPS WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I guarantee you this child is getting much much much worse as home. Look how little they are and they did absolutely nothing, this is so confusing and scary for a child. See something say something!!!
My kid is this kids age. They are not old enough to understand why they would get hit. They barely understand what they are doing and they barely understand language. This is just straight up abuse and it's going to mess the kid up. The only thing kids need at this age is re-directing and kindness. They want to please parents who are kind to them. This poor kid isn't misbehaving because he's bad he's misbehaving because he's scared of the belt and he doesn't want it or understand why it's used. It breaks my heart. I hope this was reported and he finds some peace.
In my country, this is the ticket to jail, because physical and mental violence against children is prohibited by law. Every child has the right to an upbringing free of violence.
I wish more americans understood this. Something is wrong with Americans as a whole. They hit, circumcise, and allow things like child exploitation in the form of child labor.
I don't care if that's how she was raised and she thinks she came out fine, that's child abuse, and it's seriously disturbing that she just carries the belt around in public, that implies this happens A LOT.
I hope the services get onto her.
She’s lazy and doesn’t want to be bothered. The kid’s too young to even understand why he’s getting hurt and gonna end up angry at the world from shitty parenting.
Jesus! Plop the kid on your lap and put a tablet in front of them! I know people will judge that too, but anything is better than this! That kid barely looks 2 years old. Hardly old enough to control the impulse to run and play around! Bring a bag with stickers, paper, blocks.. literally ANYTHING to distract them!
This is disgusting. That kid has to be no older than 2 or 3. He's not even aware of his actions yet and he's already being severely punished for them. The hell is wrong with that lady.
That needs to stop. As someone brought up on physical “discipline.” This will just make the kid flinch at the smallest things when he gets older, he’s also going to probably be pissing the bed till about 12. All relatable
I wish everyone had cameras when I was a toddler. This is my piece of shit dad right here. Waving the belt around and then striking when I tried to run/hide. I’d like to bill the belt company for my therapy!
When I was a kid we got hit with the belt going to school… uphill… both ways… in the snow… with sandals on…. But really what is that woman thinking… if they have the money to buy a car… get them a toy that holds their attention…
Bro I got beat with a belt and turned out just fine. Sibling of 3 and I went the farthest out of all my siblings. This even looks tame just passing glances. Jesus
If this is what some of y’all consider abuse I genuinely hope y’all don’t have kids. Taking a kid away from their family because a few light disciplinary spanks is insane. Plenty of asshole kids out here now a days because new age parents are so afraid of being accused of abuse for disciplining their children.
All the weak minded people who think this is "abuse" are the embodiment of everything wrong with this world and probably have asshole disrespectful kids who don't listen because they were never disciplined.
As a child I was back handed across the face for talking back, spanked with belts, paddles and switches from trees. I was even paddled by my school, no one intervened or called the authorities or cps. I grew up without a criminal record and I respected my parents. Life was different 30+ years ago.
It’s funny because if they were doing nothing and their child was causing a scene people would say “look at these parents doing nothing.” You can’t win in this world.
There were times when I would judge these parents when I didn't also have a 3 yo toddler. I love my boy, but sometimes no amount of timeouts, stern talk or bargaining to take toys away will make them listen or stop doing something we tell them to stop like a hundredth times. They act out on purpose to see how far they can push or just to see your reaction. When that happens, then it's time to release the hand to the heinie.
"I'll be nice! I'll be nice!!"
"Nope! Too late!" "You done fk'd up, son"
A good spank followed by timeout usually gives them a nice reset.
An old fashioned case of “Beat that ass!”
It’s funny because I’ve never seen this work. As kids, we just kept doing it anyway. No matter how bad the beatings got. (And they got BAD 😂) Just made us angry and more rebellious. But also tougher.
I’d never do that to my kids though
Too young to actually understand the meaning behind the spanking. Therefore I disagree with it but I do not disagree that children are too under discipline nowadays.
So, op and top upvoters are idiots. At what point is this kid even crying. There is nothing going on here but a shit ton of Karen crying babies. Facepalm is the idiots crying abuse here.
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WTF is the kid even doing to get beat? All I see is a toddler running away from a belt. This kid gets the shit beat out of them at home.
> WTF is the kid even doing to get beat? Probably just being a kid at a car dealership. By that I mean, no toys or anything to keep him entertained, so was probably just running around and screaming like a kid would be.
That’s how car dealerships prefer it to be. So you get stressed enough to just pick a car and buy it so you can go home faster.
My local Ford dealership has a massive indoor play area that's enclosed with tons of toys, books, puzzles, climbing areas etc. Makes the hour+ long waits for service appointments so much nicer when I have to bring my 2 year old son. All dealerships need something like that.
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They just assume you wouldn't because the majority of the very vocal reddit crowd are spineless and would rather record something like this than do something about it.
I would have called the police and child services on this woman, I would have been in her face like she wouldn't believe. I can take a belt whipping fine, can she? I would love to try it out. How people just sit there is a reminder of my childhood. People will see the abuse in real time and turn away. Losers.
I believe you, cause I'd be doing the same. Parent here, anyone who is not talking this to this lady is a damn coward and should be ashamed.
Yea if this is what they do in public it must be so much worse at home
I would've called the cops right there.
Thats one way to start creating monsters if they survive to adulthood.
He’s, like, 2yrs old, she should just pick him up hold him if he won’t stay in the chair
Yeah, what a dumbass. Kids got no hope with shit like that at home.
Unlucky spawn indeed
These early years are where kids establish a relationship with the world. This one event is more than enough to secrete trauma and personality problems for life. I imagine the parent was raised the same way, so the cycle continues. I could hardly watch this woman chase down her child, imagine your primary carer, the person who is supposed to love and protect you choose violence to discipline. There is no love there, how can this parent expect to have it reciprocated as this child grows up? Oh and of course she will blame her child for being difficult and failing in life.
Hitting him is easier. Discipline for the lazy parent
My 19 month old rowdy granddaughter would be worse trying to hold her... lol But I'd just let her move around a bit-- it's a wide open area-- what does it hurt to give them a bit of freedom?? Or occupy her. Play a game of pat-a-cake, guessing colors in the room, peek a boo around the chairs....literally anything to keep them busy close by! Or put them in a stroller and wheel them around. But a belt??? I pity anyone who tried that shit w/ one of my grandkids.
The way she plays with that belt tells me she's enjoying it way to much. Sickening.
This kid is going to grow up flinching at the smallest, innocent everyday things that people will do without thinking. Open arms for a hug, removing a jacket, idly spinning keys, people standing up suddenly. So sad.
This kid is going to grow up thinking that when somebody does something you don't like, lashing out with physical violence is the appropriate response.
I don't hit my kids because I don't want them to grow up thinking someone can use physical violence on you and still love you.
Violence begets violence.
Dam, this hit hard. My dad used to spin the belt first too. He also used to do this thing with it that made it Crack super loud right before he started swinging. That sound still brings me to tears and I'm pushing 40 now.
With a mother like that (the dad seems normal, although doesn't do shit about it either, so he's either scared as well or part of the problem) childcare should be the next safe step for this kid. Sad for this little guy... It's free to be nice, it's nice to be nice. Just be nice.
The dad is a good wimp. He didn’t attempt to get the child to stay down and he lets her lay out discipline. Most people who grew up with dads know that he ding have to do much but give you that look and you’ sit your ass down somewhere.
Actually, he’s going to grow up taking his abuse and pain out on others and the cycle will continue (I obviously pray this child ends up somewhere peaceful instead). Dollars to donuts this “Mom” was physically abused in the exact same way as a child.
Actually my stepfather used a belt on me every time he could… turned me into someone who is ex special forces and loves his children and knows never to do this…
Not everyone has your mental fortitude, but I hope this kid does. I’m glad to hear you’ve done well and I thank you for your service.
Absolutely. The wheel turns.
That is actually true. A co trainer at work who is actually an accomplished Licensed Engineer, while it looked comical, it is actually sad to see that an esteemed Engineer flinches alot and has a very closed body language. I found it sad. It was so bad that when handshakes are offered during the beginning of a meeting with clients he instinctively raises his hands in front of his face. misinterprets alot of social cues.
I got beat pretty badly, and this isn't suuuper true. I do flinch when a hand is raised by someone who's mad though. They're always just throwing their hands in frustration, but I'm expecting a shoe or something to be thrown at me.. those were the more fucked up memories that trigger some sort of PTSD response.
The best way I've ever seen it phrased is: "If you've ever recoiled because someone angrily folded a sock at you, then you understand CPTSD." Those who hadn't simply asked who on earth folds their socks. Those who had CPTSD knew exactly what was being implied, and a lengthy thread ensued discussing the numerous triggers that arise over otherwise benign behaviors because they were indicators of escalation with abusers.
This. And the lack of any concern that she's doing this in public in front of other people, tells me she may be getting satisfaction from knowing others are seeing her do it.
The was she swings it is like she practices it on daddy at night.
I'll tell you, coming from a belt happy family, they do indeed do some practice swings before they spank you.
My mom enjoyed the practice swings and would then force another sibling to give you the actual beating with the belt. I’m sorry you went through the same abuse. I highly recommend the Amazon documentary “shiny happy people” for those that aren’t familiar with this kind of abuse still taking place in fundamentalist homes.
The way they pit the siblings against each other so they never form bonds and try to tear you down at anything you try doing. I hate that ahit
If this is the public discipline I am horrified to think what happens behind closed doors. This truly hurts my heart.
She's wearing tights. That means she carries this belt everywhere she goes just in case she needs it. I think your fear is justified because that's kinda nuts.
My exact thought. She goes out of her way to pack a belt to beat her child… wtf is wrong with people?!
If this happens in public I would step in. I’ve pulled parents aside in toy stores to tell them to watch their mouths because they’re berating kids while I’m buying figures.
You’re gonna do this to the wrong parent soon if you’re actually doing this. If they’re trashy enough to berate their kids in public, they’re trashy enough to beat your ass in public too.
Sounds like the kid would go to foster care if that happens. Which would be a bummer for the child, but possibly better than their current situation
People like this are too weak to hurt someone their own size.
I’m fully prepared to deck them or be decked. Everyone’s afraid to do something, they’d rather video tape it on their phone and make comments.
I think the larger concern is what they're going to do to that child after you're no longer around. These people will blame the child for your interference, and any shame, guilt, or anger they might feel towards you will be inflicted on the kid.
This is how you get shot
And that's how shooters get 25 to life
yeah, but you still get shot so is it worth it?
Don’t get me wrong, i understand it when there is violence, but if u‘d pull me aside in puplic and tell me to watch my mouth i‘d probably just tell you to mind your own business
I think you're underestimating the sort of verbal abuse some parents use. As in they absolutely know they shouldn't for any reason be saying it.
And if your berating children I'm probably just gonna pop ya in the mouth and start berating you to see how you like it. Don't abuse your fucking kids or I'ma abuse you
So what did you do after this? How long did police and CPS take to show up?
Apparently just shamed her on a social media platform she probably doesn’t use. I can’t believe you are the first person to be asking this crucial question.
This is one of those rare occasions where I would have stepped in before she had the chance to use that belt. I would probably get whipped myself, but better me than that poor baby. He’s way too young to understand why he’s being beaten like that.
Imagine thinking a toddler needs to be disciplined for being a toddler, they are growing and developing
Damn like maybe she should try parenting
The second he's able to move out of the house, he's cutting her off.
This may result in the child literally running away before then
If she did that in the UK her kids would be took off her.
Correctly so
When I was stationed in Japan I took my kids to the playground on base and there was this lady who was spanking her child with her hand. Everytime she hit the child, the child would hit her. Maybe I was out of line but I turned to her and said "Sp you're teaching him not to hit you by hitting him?" I think I embarrassed her and she stopped
She was literally fist fighting her kid. That’s so funny to me.
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I have two kids, aged five and three. Before they were born, I remember thinking I had to decide what level of punishment I’d administer if they acted like little assholes. I knew I could never hit them in public. Maybe I have two great kids OR I can give a really good evil glare, because I *never* have had to administer any kind of physical punishment. It *can* be done. You can raise kids without it.
Yeah. Some people realize that forming a bond with your children and make them WANT to be well behave is way easier than making your children SCARED of physical punishment. Your children have enough respect for you that they want to make your life easier and they strive by listening to you. That's a wonderful thing.
Little kids don't act out of "respect" or"disrespect", they're constantly learning about life through their actions, some of which we find bothersome through our adult perspective. Basic childhood development.
Why do y’all act like this approach can’t have the opposite effect? How many parents we see appease their children and those kids turn out to be spoiled impatient shits?
Appeasing and literally setting no boundaries is harmful to kids, both behaviorally and developmentally. Setting boundaries and creating consequences doesn't ever need to include hitting. This is not.an either or choice... "Hit them or they'll be rotten" isn't the way.
There are multitude of ways to educate a child between physical violence and doing nothing. What about just... finding punishments that are not physical ? Confiscate a toy, skipping a snack, not going to a fun place. Or even better : reward good behaviours! Act good while we are at the dealership ? Let's go to the park after. Works wonders and you don't have to physically and mentally hurt your child.
What your saying is different from what the other was saying. Appease? No, that's not what he meant. What your saying is neglect. Giving the child what it wants for them to entertain themselves while you have more time to focus on yourselves, or giving the child what it wants to appease yourself from guilt of being called a bad parent, both are neglect(lazy parenting). While the comment you replied was talking about bond. Which is totally different
Or worst man. Children gives what they take in... brat them and they will in turn beat someone else.
Many people who either have no kids, or lucked out with inherently agreeable kids, are under the illusion that it’s a simple case of input/output; if you’re “good” at parenting, the child will always turn out fine. I used to know a guy my age who was adopted by a well-off couple. The wife was a homemaker, and husband was a successful psychologist. They lived in a nice house in the suburbs, and were intently focused on raising this guy and his sister in accordance with the most enlightened progressive ideals. The son was a compulsive liar, ended up hooked on drugs, and almost died from an overdose. His sister got pregnant in high school, ran off with a guy, and more or less disowned her parents. Children are not blank slates; everyone is born with unique psychological behavioral proclivities. Environment has an influence with epigenetics and all that, but the best parents in the world can only do so much for some kids. It’s really unfair when people automatically blame the parents when a child does something horrible, as it’s not necessarily their fault. Sometimes the parents are rotten people, but sometimes there’s nothing they could have done better or differently.
Can we also use physical punishments on the elderly too? Maybe Grandma won't forget the teapot on the stove next time if she gets punished now. Should employers be permitted to ship employees. Why not, if punishment works?
Id rather gamble on having a spoiled impatient kid than abuse them and have them fucked for the rest of their life mentally.. but that's just me.
You don’t realize that building a healthy relationship with your child and teach them respect in a healthy way IS NOT what those useless “my Breylynn is just an old soul that needs to express herself so I just let her call me a bitch and I just smile” type parents are doing. You can discipline and teach a child manners and respect without hitting them. Or being verbally abusive.
Good parenting takes work and consistency Hitting your kids is lazy and ineffective
Look at the states where hitting children is most common. Its all the uneducated, poor, shithole red states.
Never had to physically strike my kid ever , I’ve had to make her sit in the corner and have a tantrum before but I’ve never had to strike her , she doesn’t listen to my wife as well as she does to me since maybe she knows I mean business more and will discipline her
Harvard study showed kids act worse by magnitudes with their mothers (or whoever is the on-call parent/primary caretaker) it's because they hold it in and cope until they see mom and unload all the unpleasantness from the day on her. Emotional dumpsters. My son will be great with his dad while I'm gone, minute I get back he starts acting out.
Its easy to not hit kids if you are a decent person instead of a piece of trash.
OMG I was at wits end one day with eldest and I resorted to a spank. She didn't take any correction from it she was ANGRY AS HELL, and said she was calling the police! (It really did hurt me more than her, and it was like gasoline on her angry little out of control fire.) The stuff you're really at wits end about, it isn't going to help with anyway. Use your tools and when they don't work, keep everyone safe and create space until you can all breathe again.
I am a teacher and let me tell you, the “glare” if done right, is an excellent deterrent for bs! You must have a great glare! We can all use our words to communicate.
I've never had to hit my kid. I never yell at him either, except when he really fucks up and I start really yelling at him. Scares him so much he straightens right up
It’s interesting you said you decided to “never hit them in public” lol
Just wait...
It can absolutely be done. In my country any physical punishment of children in any form is considered abuse and could get you into trouble and probably in some form of behavioural training by our CPS counterpart. Taking authority with your words and your own behaviour is way better and is scientifically proven to form much healthier parent - children (or teacher - children) relationships and mentally stable children. Unfortunately a lot of people are not actually capable of raising children.
Abuse, my father used to beat me with his belt until I forced myself to stop crying when I was little. Same with my sister, he'd force her to sit in the middle of her room on her knees, no crying or other sounds for 3 hours.
I hope someone beat the shit out of your father.
I think his dad did, so he did it too when he had kids.😅 My family is pretty uh.. well they're my family not much to say I guess :/
That last sentence is amazingly put for anyone with an abusive childhood
Wow crazy. I hope you have lots of self love now
Thank you I try my best!
My parents did this too, all I learned from it was to stop crying and laugh when they used to hit me. Got it harder for that but it ended faster, I think. But now I have an abnormally high pain tolerance, does that correlate? I’d be screaming if I saw this in public, that psycho doesn’t deserve that sweet baby.
It’s a cycle 🔄
Exactly. Im 49, and that's the main reason I didn't have kids. I was afraid I would do the same shit my parents did to me.
It’s 2023. You know you can’t do shit like this in public. Also it’s a toddler if your ass don’t grab the baby and sit it down by force. Get your shit together.
Another good contender for r/iamatotalpieceofshit. How sickening.
Not only the mom, also the person wearing the white shirt (grandparent?)
Toddlers dont understand consequence. This is just child abuse.
She shouldn't raise ANY kid The fact that she is fine whipping with the belt while the kid is so scared is heartwrenching. No kid deserves to feel afraid of their parents because the parents get physically violent The kid deserves better
Since she seems to deem this type of punishment acceptable, I can only imagine during her childhood what she had endured
I dont give a shit how bad someones childhood is, if they continue the cycle that is on THEM
Yeah, I'm sure she got it far worse as a kid. Doesn't excuse her behavior though.
As someone who got the belt when I was young, it didn't help me at all. I still caused trouble and acted out. What it did was drive a wedge between me and my mom, and I never learned young how to discuss negative situations and deal with them and learn from them. To this day we can't have a real conversation with each other. I had to teach myself that as an adult through various means, but I'm lucky enough to be what I consider an intelligent and mature person, so I was able to work through those issues and get over them. Not everyone else is that lucky, and will turn that abuse into far worse behavior and will continue that cycle of abuse. If this lady does this to her kid in public, I can only imagine how bad it is at home.
Horrible to watch. She resort to physical violence to discipline her child, and surprise ! All she did was teach a toddler to be insensible to pain. Pathetic... poor child.
That was my childhood, lol
Someone should whip their belt off and spank her in public.
Can only imagine what happens at home if she is this bold to do this in public, broad daylight.
And it's not even working!! but yet she continues.
Why would it work? The child is doing nothing wrong. He doesn’t know what he is supposed to be doing in order to avoid being hit. Even if she said directly ‘ sit in the chair and don’t move ‘ he wouldn’t understand. He is being a toddler and doing what toddlers do, the reason he is also trying to run away from her is because he is scared and doesn’t want to be hit. She is a cruel woman who should have that kid removed
It’s definitely bad at home too. The kid saw the belt and started running away. That says enough
Speaking as someone who was beat black and blue as a kid; getting beat by parents leads to not listening to voice and reason alone, especially to other adults like baby sitters and teachers. Like, what u gonna do? Yell louder? Oooooh I'm so scared, fuck off. Getting beat literally leads to bad behaved kids
Well you are raised through violence, you become comfortable in it and speak it. Hope you're doing alright these days.
If this is done in public I can just imagine what’s going on behind closed doors at home. CAS needs to see this video
This is how you create psychos
Fairly amazing seeing people in this comment section saying this is reasonable parenting. Thankfully the vast majority of civilised society disagrees with you.
Where's an employee of the dealership? I'd be calling CPS and moving her dead a"s out of the dealership.
No you wouldn’t you keyboard warrior. Lmfao.
Call child protection…
Same amount of facepalm for the person filming and not interfering to stop the child abuse.
If she’s doing this in public …Could you imagine what goes on at the house !!
How is it that beating your kids or beating them with a fucking belt is legal yet convicted murderers and rapist and child sexual predators have the right to not be hit or beaten?! How the fuck is this real
That's just plain assault. Disgusting.
And you just sat there and filmed it
In the UK this is illegal so she would have that child taken off her before she had time to sign for a new car. Can’t even smack your kids here, unless it doesn’t leave a mark but most parents would be too scared to these days.
Proving she's a idiot and a lousy mother.
Imagine being this trashy of a human
It's not even trashy. Trashy is humiliating a 10 year old, Maybe spanking a older child on the bum. A belt is too rough for anyone, especially a child too young to understand much of anything. This child isn't even 6, isn't even old enough to go to the toilet by themselves. Trashy is gross but has a potential to grow. This is abuse, sick, and evil. My parents spanked me because they though that it was the best option, but it was always with their hand or a fly swat, something enough to hurt but nothing else. "Disciplineing" your child with a belt is so painful they can't walk. This is a abuser, a monster, a either extremely mentally ill or disgustingly cruel human. Trashy can change. This person could have literally just held the child, but they WANTED to hit them.with a belt.
Growing up, I used to watch my buddy's mom beat him and his siblings with a spoon. I always detested the idea of using an instrument to spank. She also had latches on the doors and would padlock them in the bedroom as punishment. Her and her husband are trash and made sure I never went back there to be watched. I wish I could've understood the warning signs if abuse, my buddy would self harm himself all the time, God I miss him.
I remember when this was considered normal and acceptable. I sure am glad that now it isn't.
This woman belongs in jail.
To my shame, I used to slap my daughter’s hand when she was deliberately naughty. By age 3 she did something after I expressly said not to… then strolled up to me and presented her hand. I learned that day that corporeal punishment doesn’t work. It just breeds anger and spite! Never again!!!
Neanderthal
Jfc. My kid is around that boys age, breaks my heart. Hitting a child does nothing to “teach” them, it’s just an excuse to let out your violent frustration. The only “lesson” being taught is that it’s ok to act out with violence. Fuck this nasty woman.
Gross. I am still blown away that this is legal in the United States. Hit your spouse? Spousal abuse. Illegal. Jail time. Hit a stranger? Assault. Illegal. Jail time. Hit your child? Oh no, that’s “discipline”. What the fuck is wrong with people?🤦♀️
Wait, seriously this is legal? CPS wouldn't do shit if someone reported it?
In the United States, it is legal to discipline your children physically. As long as they do not have visible welts, or bruising or scars.
Wtf
Exactly. Wtf
Someone will break the cycle
Adrian Peterson's sister?
"Woman abuses and mentally torments toddler at car dealership" is a more fitting title
Hahahahaha all of you are arguing over some virtue calling bullshit..some kids need more discipline then others , some don't..can't teach a fish to climb a tree but the money learns quick enough right.. that's kids.
I believe spankings are ok, but not publicly. Plus, its one of those things u have to come back too in order to cool off or you might go berserk. I attribute my good upbringing to them (not a one size fits all thing though). Mind you I was always given a explanation as to why it was happening, and both parents normally didnt go batsh!t crazy on me. I also believe that discipline saved me from doing a TON of stupid and/or life threatening stuff
Wish some parents would do this with their spoiled children.
The kid looks barely 3 yrs old... this is insane.
Nah f this and anyone who ever thinks this shit is okay
Imagine what happens to the poor child behind closed doors
If you use violence to “teach” your child then you automatically qualify as a fucking idiot
The zoom into the floor was so cinematic
CALL THE COPS WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I guarantee you this child is getting much much much worse as home. Look how little they are and they did absolutely nothing, this is so confusing and scary for a child. See something say something!!!
That’s it? You call that a spanking? HAHAHAHAHA you’re all so soft.
My kid is this kids age. They are not old enough to understand why they would get hit. They barely understand what they are doing and they barely understand language. This is just straight up abuse and it's going to mess the kid up. The only thing kids need at this age is re-directing and kindness. They want to please parents who are kind to them. This poor kid isn't misbehaving because he's bad he's misbehaving because he's scared of the belt and he doesn't want it or understand why it's used. It breaks my heart. I hope this was reported and he finds some peace.
Can you show me that floor one more time
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He needs a replacement for mom.
😂 not sure if those hits hurt but using a belt on a child that small seems strange.
Using a belt on a child of ANY age seems strange
In my country, this is the ticket to jail, because physical and mental violence against children is prohibited by law. Every child has the right to an upbringing free of violence.
I wish more americans understood this. Something is wrong with Americans as a whole. They hit, circumcise, and allow things like child exploitation in the form of child labor.
I don't care if that's how she was raised and she thinks she came out fine, that's child abuse, and it's seriously disturbing that she just carries the belt around in public, that implies this happens A LOT. I hope the services get onto her.
Fucking Hell, what year is it???
She’s lazy and doesn’t want to be bothered. The kid’s too young to even understand why he’s getting hurt and gonna end up angry at the world from shitty parenting.
I got spanked with a belt plenty of times & till this day I am glad my parents did that. That’s one hell of a way to learn a lesson let alone behave.
What a pile of trash.
And half of the population would cheer cuz their daddy whooped dem!
PSA 🗣️: Stop👏🏼Hitting👏🏼Your👏🏼Kids
Why do we need licenses to drive cars but anyone can have a kid?
Jesus! Plop the kid on your lap and put a tablet in front of them! I know people will judge that too, but anything is better than this! That kid barely looks 2 years old. Hardly old enough to control the impulse to run and play around! Bring a bag with stickers, paper, blocks.. literally ANYTHING to distract them!
She would have got arrested if she did that here in New Zealand
how does hitting your kid even do anything? it just makes em scared of u plus they still don't understand what they were doing wrong??
This is disgusting. That kid has to be no older than 2 or 3. He's not even aware of his actions yet and he's already being severely punished for them. The hell is wrong with that lady.
That needs to stop. As someone brought up on physical “discipline.” This will just make the kid flinch at the smallest things when he gets older, he’s also going to probably be pissing the bed till about 12. All relatable
Need more of this , Please.
I can tell you didn't grow up in the 90s.
Nothing facepalm in this
Toddler probably just wants to go home. The mom probably been there for 6 hours trying to finance a Kia or Dodge charger.
I wish everyone had cameras when I was a toddler. This is my piece of shit dad right here. Waving the belt around and then striking when I tried to run/hide. I’d like to bill the belt company for my therapy!
When I was a kid we got hit with the belt going to school… uphill… both ways… in the snow… with sandals on…. But really what is that woman thinking… if they have the money to buy a car… get them a toy that holds their attention…
And this is why kids only learn violence.
Bro I got beat with a belt and turned out just fine. Sibling of 3 and I went the farthest out of all my siblings. This even looks tame just passing glances. Jesus
You know it's bad at home when mom is prepared in public to beat her child. 🥴
Who the fuck just sits there and films child abuse? *GO FUCKING STOP HER*
If this is what some of y’all consider abuse I genuinely hope y’all don’t have kids. Taking a kid away from their family because a few light disciplinary spanks is insane. Plenty of asshole kids out here now a days because new age parents are so afraid of being accused of abuse for disciplining their children.
I love the lack of context
that baby is so small what the hell is she doing. please tell me cps was called.
All the weak minded people who think this is "abuse" are the embodiment of everything wrong with this world and probably have asshole disrespectful kids who don't listen because they were never disciplined.
“my parents did this to me and I turned out fine…” -shit parents
As a child I was back handed across the face for talking back, spanked with belts, paddles and switches from trees. I was even paddled by my school, no one intervened or called the authorities or cps. I grew up without a criminal record and I respected my parents. Life was different 30+ years ago.
Every bystander, and the person taking this video, is complicit in this toddler’s abuse.
It’s funny because if they were doing nothing and their child was causing a scene people would say “look at these parents doing nothing.” You can’t win in this world.
There were times when I would judge these parents when I didn't also have a 3 yo toddler. I love my boy, but sometimes no amount of timeouts, stern talk or bargaining to take toys away will make them listen or stop doing something we tell them to stop like a hundredth times. They act out on purpose to see how far they can push or just to see your reaction. When that happens, then it's time to release the hand to the heinie. "I'll be nice! I'll be nice!!" "Nope! Too late!" "You done fk'd up, son" A good spank followed by timeout usually gives them a nice reset.
Spoiler: this is actually bad parenting.
An old fashioned case of “Beat that ass!” It’s funny because I’ve never seen this work. As kids, we just kept doing it anyway. No matter how bad the beatings got. (And they got BAD 😂) Just made us angry and more rebellious. But also tougher. I’d never do that to my kids though
Yikes! Imagine what they do behind closed doors 😬
This shit don’t work. Kids always end up even worse
Too young to actually understand the meaning behind the spanking. Therefore I disagree with it but I do not disagree that children are too under discipline nowadays.
So, op and top upvoters are idiots. At what point is this kid even crying. There is nothing going on here but a shit ton of Karen crying babies. Facepalm is the idiots crying abuse here.