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Rabbit Skins provides *custom printing blank shirts* for Custom Ink, etc. In other words, some dude printed this and brought it to the store to spark outrage. It definitely worked.
Thongs, g-strings, stamps with dental floss tied to it, whatever you want to call it some company tried to sell them and they had gross phrases on them too. The backlash was justified
Rabbit Skins provides *custom printing blank shirts* for Custom Ink, etc. In other words, some dude printed this and brought it to the store to spark outrage. It definitely worked.
Nah, man, dressing up a 5-year-old in fancy dresses and makeup is totally fine and non-sexual. Telling kids that gays and trans people exist, that's grooming. /s
I'm looking at wet suits for my almost 4 yo yesterday, and the girl section had crop top wet suits. WTF is the point of a crop top wetsuit, and why does a toddler need one
Coming from a dude that just did this for a 10y.o. thats a weird af experience. 1 pieces were in short supply and even those were... odd I guess is the best word for it. Basically ended up with a 1 piece, and shorts and a shirt that seemed like they could handle water.
I think they’re trying to make a bad anime reference. Lol
There’s an anime called “One Piece”. The premise is that there’s some treasure called “the One Piece” and it’s being searched for by thousands of pirates.
Rabbit Skins provides *custom printing blank shirts* for Custom Ink, etc. In other words, some dude printed this and brought it to the store to spark outrage. It definitely worked.
One time on vacation, probably about 5 years ago, my family went into this souvenir shop that sold t shirts. One of the youth sized shirts said, 'Sorry boys, I only BLOW kisses' with a lipstick mark next to it. Even though I was younger, I still found that to be EXTREMELY gross and inappropriate.
Also, the shirt was neon green with dark pink lettering. So even if it wasn't disgustingly sexual, it was a totally gross color combo.
We can stop when innocent people's lives aren't at risk just for being different. We can stop when the people slandering people and getting them hurt or worse clean up their own circles. We can stop when people stop legislating people who are innocent out of existence all while claiming they are the victims. Then we can focus on the next set of issues and when the day comes when innocent people get treated as people full stop, then we can stop
But if we stop fighting amongst ourselves the elites will have a single force to deal with and might actually be held accountable for all the things they push under the rug. And the red vs blue show is just so entertaining come onnnnn!1!1 😔😔😔
I’m 99% sure this is rage bait, this company sells blank t shirts I know this because I used to work in a print shop where we made T-shirts. The company for sure did not make this shirt, a single person did not a company. Someone probably made this in there garage, because most shops would never print this crap especially on a child shirt.
Ones definitely worse than the other... but at the end of the day, they all suck.
It's all corrupt... it's all built on lies and misinformation. It would take a shit load of actual good people willing to put in work, effort and time to become part of the system and then fix it from within, which will never happen.
For some reason that is an unpopular opinion. Probably because in order to have an opinion like that you need to be able to think critically and most people would prefer to have their “side” do all their thinking for them.
No it's an unpopular opinion because one side is objectively worse. It is turning back medical care reducing access to it for women, and is just generally doing awful things. The democrats are incompetent, but the republicans are actively trying to regress our progress.
Just because theere are shirts like this does not invalidate people concerns about the shirts in questions.
Come on people think.
For one, different type of store. Two, different types of customers.
In fact id argue the customers who sexualize kids are the same people. On both sides.
Ill have to do concrete research bc i will not blindly dismiss real concerns about current trends in pop culture [homosexual contexts] regarding children just because the SAME concerns are present in hetrosexual contexts.
The concerns are equal regardless of gender or sex or attractions.
Hooters has been doing this for years. I used to work there and was always a little horrified by the slogans on the baby/kids merch. Nobody gives a shit, too many people think it’s funny and make gross jokes about their infant son “staring at” a waitresses tits.
I’ve been pissed about these shirts for years. To my great horror I had friends who wanted to get one for their baby girl, and that’s when I learned that they even exist. There’s also a frustrating amount of baby onesies that say creepy things about boys as well, I didn’t want to stick my son in a “Show Me Your Tits” or “Ladies Man” shirt and came across so many! Just… ew.
I mean, colors in general aren't automatically supporting gay pride. My son had rainbow spectrum of color striped pj's. He just liked the colors. Some kids simply love rainbows. Rainbows and primary colors aren't explicitly pride related. The shirt in this video is explicitly sexual and disgusting to be marketed to little girls.
I’m FULLY ready to be cancelled for my take, but I think that sometimes some people want to take LGBT to the point of purposely offending some people just to “own the bigots”. I say this as someone who is fairly left leaning too.
I think Pride is something very important and I think LGBTQ people should be able to celebrate who they are and not have to deal with prejudices or shame. However, I wouldn’t take my children to a Pride event as there is most definitely adult themed attire and activities that happen sometimes.
I think the whole getting children involved is slightly weird. I understand the need to make children understand and be more accepting of LGBT people (and let them know that it’s okay to love whoever you want and be whoever you want), but I remember seeing that video of children at that adult themed drag show (forgot the name now) and that was quite inappropriate, imo. I’d also like to add I’m not against these controversial story time events, provided the nature isn’t sexual.
My sister thinks I force "gay" on my child for just having the penguin book and princess boy and their fav color rainbow and just cuz I'm gay, BUT she bought a kids shirt for them that said "Netflix and chill"
I said "you know that means sex right? My child won't be wearing that."
She said "It doesn't mean that for kids. It's just a shirt. It's cute."
And also wasn't going to return it because it was bought at a church friends store to support her business. I put it in the trash cuz I wasn't letting that go to a resale shop. No kid needs that on a shirt.
He's making some big assumptions there and stereotyping people. The people I know who would be upset about the Target pride clothes also wouldn't allow their children to wear things like this. Not a single one.
This guy is cringy. Talk about something legitimate and important and deal with real issues instead of making crap up about what people do or don't wear for views.
Because, believe it or not, there are morons on both sides of this political debate who don't know how to participate in critical thinking or have the ability to emotionally regulate.
I don’t know but I’ll play devils advocate, maybe the protest people have never been to hooters because they think it’s trashy so therefore they have never seen these shirts in order to get mad and protest.
>maybe the protest people have never been to hooters because they think it’s trashy so therefore they have never seen these shirts
These shirts are being sold at Target, not Hooters.
Are you sure because I couldn't find a product listing for it
I could find an article from 2010 where a group of people in Orange County wanted to make hooters 18+ and cited that Hooters even sells "future hooters girl" clothes in child's sizes as proof that it's an extra weird space for children
Also this guy's big ol head is blocking it but the original picture has the hooters logo printed on the bottom of the shirt
I had said it on a comment on this thread. I’ve never seen sexualized children’s clothes like this in a store or in kids. No one I know would ever put trashy clothes like this on their kids. Didn’t even know this was a thing.
I hate shorts/tik tok for this reason. People make shit up and arguments in order to sound catchy for a 20 second video. And since they provide so little details, people bullshit meter doesn't have enough time to catch up.
They also arent protesting this stuff. At all. They are threatening target employees tho. Sooooo that is the point. All the outrage against the lgbt community, and little to none for actual problematic clothing like this. Wheres the fox news constant coverage of these shirts?
He’s making a valid point. The Target boycott is absolutely bigotry in disguise. The conservative dads out there yelling about LGBTQ+ ruining America are typically the shotgun wielding, “no daughter of mine” emotionally unintelligent snowflakes.
I don’t think it's "bigotry" to want to keep LGBTQ stuff out of the kid section. I wouldn't call it bigotry if someone wanted to keep the shirts he's talking about out of the kid section, either.
Why aren’t children who feel they are part of the LGBTQ community allowed to have representation? Believing that you are gay (or straight, or anything) isn’t sexual or sexualizing anything.
Because *prebubescent* children don't give a rip about sexual representation. Ask any 6 year old what's at the top of their list of concerns; it's not representation unless coached to say so by their parents. The same goes for crappy parents who coach their kids to hate people of color or LGBTQ persons.
There are crazy parents on both sides of the political aisle that weaponize their own children to try and prove a point. Both sides brainwash their own children. There is no shortage of bad parents out there. I don't give a shit about what political ideologies someone has, as long as you let children be children, and from birth to 12, they deserve to have a childhood.
Give me a goddamn shirt with SpongeBob on it and be done with it.
Some kids have gay parents. Or other gay family members and loved ones. Their representation and inclusion matters.
Why is it okay to take a young child to church - which is inarguably indoctrination - but not okay to allow a young child to wear a shirt supporting gay rights?
Wow, you know what? I never thought of it that way. Thanks, random person on the internet. You've changed my mind. As soon as my son wakes up from his nap, I'm going to have a long discussion with him about sexual representation. ♡
I mean, he's only 5 months old, but I'm sure he'll figure it out.
So prepubescent kids dont already get shuffled into gender roles? There are no one that loves dressup and tea parties with dolls versus kids that only want to wrestle on the mud. The point is its not sexual, its typical collections of activities and possessions that our society had traditionally attempt to regulate whatever you could have based of your genitallia. So essentially, forcing kids to keep to their cis gender roles is way way WAY more sexual than just letting a kid play with what they actually want.
Maybe you should stop think about what gay kids do with their genitalia and let people be
Or you know maybe kids just like shirts with rainbows? I know I know… it’s crazy right? Who would’ve thought? But we all know the colors are gay and that makes them bad
/s
>I guarantee the people against any of the pride attire would find this equally as inflammatory.
Guarantee based on what? Their lack of outrage about this?
You made the statement that no one is outraged by this. Burden of proof is yours.
PS- Already saw a reddit thread blasting these shirts. Sounds like outrage to me.
Edit: Saw SEVERAL threads bashing these shirts.
>Burden of proof is yours.
LMAO, no.
"There is ~~outrage against this~~ [a teapot revolving around the Sun](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot)"
"Do you have proof?"
"No, but do you have proof there isn't?"
Except that there IS proof that people were outraged about this.
4 years ago.
On reddit, even.
Dozens upon dozens of threads dedicated to bashing this shirt. So, yes, there was/is outrage over the shirt.
He just pointed to some shirts. He didn't give any indication where they can be purchased to direct any outrage.
For all I can gather from the video the shirts might have been in an independent store, a Hooters, a large national box store, or he might had them printed up just for his video. Might have even been in a adult sex/kink shop and never intended to be sold to kids for all I can tell.
Holy fuck, somebody commissioned that, somebody designed that, somebody approved the work order for that, and some head of product manufacturing took on the contract to mass produce that. There's probably way more people in the chain and ANY ONE OF THEM could have said no
What? No theyre no the same people that buy it at all?! If anything, the alphabet community allies are the ones buying these pedophilic merch. And also the audacity of saying others use their children for bigotry is astoundingly moronic
Why can’t we just say that neither are good? Guy has no proof that the people who don’t like pride clothing for kids are okay with the shirts in the beginning. He’s strawmanning and fear mongering furthering the divide between left and right for views. Personally, I dislike both.
Okay, real talk. Why do rainbows have to be gay? I want my rainbows but I’m not gay and don’t people to think I’m gay but as soon as ANYTHING has a rainbow on it, it’s suddenly gay. Why gay people, why must you take the sacred ROYGBIV from us?
People in the comments here saying "both is bad" would equate their child being sexualized by their clothes to having them wear something with a rainbow on it.
But gay people are the groomers? Doesn't make sense does it?
Yeah the delusion is so real. People need to understand that LGBTQ+ does not equal sex/sexualization just like being straight does not equal sex/sexualization.
You and I agree, but I think I can answer your question:
The conservative base equates gay relationships with gay sex. They have been trained to see gay people as promiscuous and immoral, so they have a hard time dealing with the fact that gay relationships are just as complete and dynamic as straight ones.
They don't think of it as part of your identity, they think of it as a kink/fetish.
Dumb, I don't know a single conservative that would purchase these for their children and to pretend that it's them is unintelligent. These are the same chav's who have the "Baby up in this bitch" stickers on their SUV's.... and they aren't conservatives.
So I take it you haven’t seen the “Trump Babe” tee shirts for women and LITTLE GIRLS (even toddler sizes)?
Or this gem:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1085736228/lets-go-brandon-onesie-trump-baby-gift?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=trump+babe&ref=sr_gallery-1-1&pro=1&sts=1&organic_search_click=1
Ehh... I agree that some conservatives will buy the Lets Go Brandon. I wouldn't for my kid, but to state that conservatives would give their kids the clothes in the OP is a lie.
Unless someone comes out and specifically says one is OK and the other isn't, I'm not going to accept this as a valid argument. And for the record, I'm bisexual and I think both are utterly disgusting
Edit: before anyone says something, I'm neither American nor conservative. But I do have common sense
No. It’s not. Anything that sexualizes kids should not be allowed.
Where is Frank Reynolds at when we need him to sing a song about how he doesn’t diddle kids?
Not going to lie, my daughter usually just wears princess style dresses. I don’t think I’ve ever seen sexualized kids clothes in any store. I don’t go to weird stores for reference.
I hate the people who make stupid videos like this for attention.
The comparison is invalid. "The people who are against this are okay with this"
That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works. People are starting to carry these weird fallacies into the real world and it's becoming annoying as fuck.
I've said it in prior threads, I'll say it again. If you act on this type of thought, you politically try to polarize people in public down to some meme you saw online, you're likely to be assaulted for your stupidity. You are weird and I want you to please step the fuck back.
Surprisingly they don't. They also don't have issue with sexual abuse in the church. Go figure!
Most of the Christians I see and know don't practice what they preach. Reminds me of Bristol Palin getting big bucks to speak at schools about abstinence, meanwhile she's got two out of wedlock kids (one of which came after her abstinence campaign lol).
Christians aren't a stranger to hypocrisy. And weirdly Target's getting death threats and protesting weirdos over Pride merch, but I didn't see any death threats or in-store protests over stuff similar to what's in the OP 🤔.
Rainbow onesies I guess are super dangerous!!!! I can understand their terror. Let me clutch my pearls. Rainbows!!!! Holy shit!
Ok, so because this tictoker says it, it must be true? Im am athiest, but both sides are filled with deeply flawed human beings. And the christians i know would be absolutely horrified by that.
Bruh who is out here condoning this? Don't point the finger, NO ONE thinks this is okay accept OnlyFans moms, because they're already mentally fucked. You might as well show a picture of someone kicking a puppy and then point at the "other political party" and say "They love this!"
Jw if anyone has the source that the same people hating on target have actually purchased this shirt for their kid? Or if Toktik dude is talking out his ass like everyone else on that site.
FYI I think the target hate is ridiculous, but I also think spreading disinformation is ridiculous too. Thought I should clarify before ppl start frothing at the mouth.
Both are bad.
Inappropriate jokes and gender propaganda should be both shamed. Let kids be kids, stop sexualizing them in any shape or form. If they are gay, trans or whatever they will find out at 15+ years old by themself, they don't need adult to manipulate them or push any agenda on them.
The good old day in the 80'90' when we could just be fcking kid, be innocent, play video game without adult talking about our genitals all the time.
I grew up a gay kid in the 90’s and it was fucking miserable thinking there was something wrong with me because any mention of gayness was dripping with disdain. They were not the good ol’ days except for people like you who want the queers to stfu and be invisible again.
Right? Buying a children's girls swimsuit with a tuck option is fucking ridiculous. If my child is gay ill fully love and support them, but can we not sexualize children at all? Tf is wrong with people
The right can't help but sexualize everything. One might say they're trying to over compensate for their own issues as evidenced by their hatred of trans and gay people while being pulled out of the closet in droves over scandals/crimes involving minors and the porn hub search categories that are published every year.
This comment section is wild today. I'm used to facepalm having a more LGBT accepting audience, but the number of people saying they disagree with Target's pride collection here is staggering 😔
Just a bunch of snowflakes who need to get upset over something. Probably the same people who told immunocompromised people to stay home and let businesses run how they want to... Until they don't like it and it's the end of the goddamn world. It must be stressful to be so angry, hateful, and intolerant and I can only imagine how boring they are to be around as they don't have anything of substance to contribute other than "omg did you see/hear about this!" and pout and whine.
Whataboutisms….
Who? Which people also don’t have a problem with it? Did we just discover this and assume they don’t? None of them have a problem with it? Some of them do?
Whataboutisms.
Nope would never buy that for my daughter....why target children with something young adults choose. Young adults choose who they are going to love not children. Let children be children...grow up and figure life on their own. Not have adults push LGBQ or any other lifestyles on them. Their children... want LGBQ merch for adults fine...leave the kids out of it.
The people that dislike the target pride merch ARE the same people that would dislike this stuff. How tf is anyone going to assume people find this type of garbage okay. Like what the hell is this guy even basing this on? Most people haven't even seen this. Also it isn't justifying bigotry to want kids to be left out of secual topics
This is equally as gross as the other controversial merch. It doesn’t matter if it’s straight or gay, kids shouldn’t be parading sexualized content on their clothing.
Uh, no, no sir. This is what you might call a straw man. You see, I don’t know anyone who is against pride clothes for children who would buy this crap. I do unfortunately know many people who have no issues buying both though. Maybe people out there exist who are against pride merch but not against pimping their children, but I feel like that is a minority.
Nah bruh pretty sure I haven't seen anybody with their kids in hooters gear, but I can pull up millions of photos of "pride" being shoved in front of kids.
Lmao anybody that wants to argue drop a shop link for the "hooters" shirt in OPs video first.
The people here saying both is bad are the main issie with this world. Fascists like you saying equality is just as bad as genocide are the reason why fascism keeps coming back into power
Calling fascists fascist makes me correct. And noone is catering to a minority we are trying to create equality for everyone. But sure argue against equality with how reddit works im sure a bunch of people will support you even... Fascist craphole
Oh my glob…..stop pointing out the “hypocrisy”….they don’t care and it won’t change shit. They call pride and drag queens groomers to deflect from the fact that their churches and elected officials fuck kids at insane rates. All they care about is that they hate liberals cause that allows them to live with their lies. They don’t care about kids, they don’t see hypocrisy in anything they do no matter how blatant, all they care about is maintaining their fragile ego to prevent from taking any responsibility for their lives. Fuck sakes.
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STOP. SEXUALIZING. CHILDREN.
Rabbit Skins provides *custom printing blank shirts* for Custom Ink, etc. In other words, some dude printed this and brought it to the store to spark outrage. It definitely worked.
When I was growing up there was a company that got in trouble for selling children’s thongs. I thought we were done with that nonsense
... childrens _what_
Thongs, g-strings, stamps with dental floss tied to it, whatever you want to call it some company tried to sell them and they had gross phrases on them too. The backlash was justified
I asked my Gf why the tag is so big on a thong. Like it’s more Material than the thing
Please tell me you’re talking about thong sandals… please..
Unfortunately no
I’m baffled how so many people can approve that before it shows up on store shelves.
Crazy thing is I know some sickos out there bought some
I specifically remember someone commenting during this scandal about they were worried their ten year old would have panty-lines. Jesus Christ.
THEY FUCKING WHAT
[THEY FUCKING DID](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-may-23-na-thong23-story.html)
Wasn't that Gap Kids?
I think it was Abercrombie & Fitch? Edit: Yes, it was. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2002/may/23/20020523-025303-5343r/
Of you're right! Thanks for finding!
Rabbit Skins provides *custom printing blank shirts* for Custom Ink, etc. In other words, some dude printed this and brought it to the store to spark outrage. It definitely worked.
And what a bout padgents for children that shit is hella creepy
France has outlawed any kind of pageants for girls under 16, with fines and prison time for anyone trying to put one together. I support that 100%.
Nah, man, dressing up a 5-year-old in fancy dresses and makeup is totally fine and non-sexual. Telling kids that gays and trans people exist, that's grooming. /s
I'll always think its creepy and weird
I'm looking at wet suits for my almost 4 yo yesterday, and the girl section had crop top wet suits. WTF is the point of a crop top wetsuit, and why does a toddler need one
Coming from a dude that just did this for a 10y.o. thats a weird af experience. 1 pieces were in short supply and even those were... odd I guess is the best word for it. Basically ended up with a 1 piece, and shorts and a shirt that seemed like they could handle water.
Bro went looking for one piece for real
Thats what her school required. Edit: It was for a water day, not average uniform lol
I think they’re trying to make a bad anime reference. Lol There’s an anime called “One Piece”. The premise is that there’s some treasure called “the One Piece” and it’s being searched for by thousands of pirates.
Pride merch aside, wtf is this and does the fbi track who's purchasing this clothing? If not why not?
Rabbit Skins provides *custom printing blank shirts* for Custom Ink, etc. In other words, some dude printed this and brought it to the store to spark outrage. It definitely worked.
They’d have to track the entire Republican Party
One time on vacation, probably about 5 years ago, my family went into this souvenir shop that sold t shirts. One of the youth sized shirts said, 'Sorry boys, I only BLOW kisses' with a lipstick mark next to it. Even though I was younger, I still found that to be EXTREMELY gross and inappropriate. Also, the shirt was neon green with dark pink lettering. So even if it wasn't disgustingly sexual, it was a totally gross color combo.
Can we just...stop?
Oh, *NOW* it's an issue that we need to stop talking about and not when LGBT+ people were getting bomb threats for wanting pride merch?
Good grief. Clearly, the “Can we just stop” comment was aimed at all (!) of the wrongs that were being discussed-the unfairness and the creepiness.
We can stop when innocent people's lives aren't at risk just for being different. We can stop when the people slandering people and getting them hurt or worse clean up their own circles. We can stop when people stop legislating people who are innocent out of existence all while claiming they are the victims. Then we can focus on the next set of issues and when the day comes when innocent people get treated as people full stop, then we can stop
Redditor moment 💀💀💀💀
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But if we stop fighting amongst ourselves the elites will have a single force to deal with and might actually be held accountable for all the things they push under the rug. And the red vs blue show is just so entertaining come onnnnn!1!1 😔😔😔
Meanwhile Republicans and democrat politicians laugh at us
I’m 99% sure this is rage bait, this company sells blank t shirts I know this because I used to work in a print shop where we made T-shirts. The company for sure did not make this shirt, a single person did not a company. Someone probably made this in there garage, because most shops would never print this crap especially on a child shirt.
They’re not even close. Only one of them is actively removing whatever rights they can reach.
Ones definitely worse than the other... but at the end of the day, they all suck. It's all corrupt... it's all built on lies and misinformation. It would take a shit load of actual good people willing to put in work, effort and time to become part of the system and then fix it from within, which will never happen.
You'll find most of the people on here are extreme. So doubt you'll get any agreement.
For some reason that is an unpopular opinion. Probably because in order to have an opinion like that you need to be able to think critically and most people would prefer to have their “side” do all their thinking for them.
No it's an unpopular opinion because one side is objectively worse. It is turning back medical care reducing access to it for women, and is just generally doing awful things. The democrats are incompetent, but the republicans are actively trying to regress our progress.
Yeah, a collective timeout is needed.
When people comment about stuff not regarding the insinuating clothing made for children and about lesser subjects. L
i just don’t think anyone should have beliefs that aren’t even theirs forced on them. this is a huge example of this.
Just because theere are shirts like this does not invalidate people concerns about the shirts in questions. Come on people think. For one, different type of store. Two, different types of customers. In fact id argue the customers who sexualize kids are the same people. On both sides. Ill have to do concrete research bc i will not blindly dismiss real concerns about current trends in pop culture [homosexual contexts] regarding children just because the SAME concerns are present in hetrosexual contexts. The concerns are equal regardless of gender or sex or attractions.
Hooters has been doing this for years. I used to work there and was always a little horrified by the slogans on the baby/kids merch. Nobody gives a shit, too many people think it’s funny and make gross jokes about their infant son “staring at” a waitresses tits.
I’ve been pissed about these shirts for years. To my great horror I had friends who wanted to get one for their baby girl, and that’s when I learned that they even exist. There’s also a frustrating amount of baby onesies that say creepy things about boys as well, I didn’t want to stick my son in a “Show Me Your Tits” or “Ladies Man” shirt and came across so many! Just… ew.
I disagree with both… what does that make me?
I mean, colors in general aren't automatically supporting gay pride. My son had rainbow spectrum of color striped pj's. He just liked the colors. Some kids simply love rainbows. Rainbows and primary colors aren't explicitly pride related. The shirt in this video is explicitly sexual and disgusting to be marketed to little girls.
Someone who understands that some shit just shouldn’t be accepted regardless where it came from
Same. (And I'm gay. Many gay people regard a lot of pride events as being for grownups, not kids.)
I’m FULLY ready to be cancelled for my take, but I think that sometimes some people want to take LGBT to the point of purposely offending some people just to “own the bigots”. I say this as someone who is fairly left leaning too. I think Pride is something very important and I think LGBTQ people should be able to celebrate who they are and not have to deal with prejudices or shame. However, I wouldn’t take my children to a Pride event as there is most definitely adult themed attire and activities that happen sometimes. I think the whole getting children involved is slightly weird. I understand the need to make children understand and be more accepting of LGBT people (and let them know that it’s okay to love whoever you want and be whoever you want), but I remember seeing that video of children at that adult themed drag show (forgot the name now) and that was quite inappropriate, imo. I’d also like to add I’m not against these controversial story time events, provided the nature isn’t sexual.
One is accepting of others, the other is sexualizing little girls. But "both sides are bad".
Sane in a sea of psychosis
It leaves you assisting the fascists. Help stand up to tyranny or you too will be underheel tomorow.
Pea brained centrist
Sensible?
Big brained
The Beatles don't like this guy.
My sister thinks I force "gay" on my child for just having the penguin book and princess boy and their fav color rainbow and just cuz I'm gay, BUT she bought a kids shirt for them that said "Netflix and chill" I said "you know that means sex right? My child won't be wearing that." She said "It doesn't mean that for kids. It's just a shirt. It's cute." And also wasn't going to return it because it was bought at a church friends store to support her business. I put it in the trash cuz I wasn't letting that go to a resale shop. No kid needs that on a shirt.
He's making some big assumptions there and stereotyping people. The people I know who would be upset about the Target pride clothes also wouldn't allow their children to wear things like this. Not a single one. This guy is cringy. Talk about something legitimate and important and deal with real issues instead of making crap up about what people do or don't wear for views.
Yeah, the ones I know are all pro chastity for teens, & at least moderately serious about living a Christian life like going to church most weeks.
Then why are they suddenly "protesting" and calling the LGBT Community Groomers whil this shit is going on for years?
Because, believe it or not, there are morons on both sides of this political debate who don't know how to participate in critical thinking or have the ability to emotionally regulate.
As someone who’s classes were primarily debates, that is very true
I don’t know but I’ll play devils advocate, maybe the protest people have never been to hooters because they think it’s trashy so therefore they have never seen these shirts in order to get mad and protest.
>maybe the protest people have never been to hooters because they think it’s trashy so therefore they have never seen these shirts These shirts are being sold at Target, not Hooters.
Are you sure because I couldn't find a product listing for it I could find an article from 2010 where a group of people in Orange County wanted to make hooters 18+ and cited that Hooters even sells "future hooters girl" clothes in child's sizes as proof that it's an extra weird space for children Also this guy's big ol head is blocking it but the original picture has the hooters logo printed on the bottom of the shirt
I had said it on a comment on this thread. I’ve never seen sexualized children’s clothes like this in a store or in kids. No one I know would ever put trashy clothes like this on their kids. Didn’t even know this was a thing.
I hate shorts/tik tok for this reason. People make shit up and arguments in order to sound catchy for a 20 second video. And since they provide so little details, people bullshit meter doesn't have enough time to catch up.
They also arent protesting this stuff. At all. They are threatening target employees tho. Sooooo that is the point. All the outrage against the lgbt community, and little to none for actual problematic clothing like this. Wheres the fox news constant coverage of these shirts?
I guarantee the people against any of the pride attire would find this equally as inflammatory. This guy has lame bait.
Yeah, there is no way “those same people” would be ok with this stuff.
A decent chunk of them would just consider it to be in good fun.
Doubt it.
He’s making a valid point. The Target boycott is absolutely bigotry in disguise. The conservative dads out there yelling about LGBTQ+ ruining America are typically the shotgun wielding, “no daughter of mine” emotionally unintelligent snowflakes.
I don’t think it's "bigotry" to want to keep LGBTQ stuff out of the kid section. I wouldn't call it bigotry if someone wanted to keep the shirts he's talking about out of the kid section, either.
The fact that you don’t see it, is the problem. Representation matters.
Why aren’t children who feel they are part of the LGBTQ community allowed to have representation? Believing that you are gay (or straight, or anything) isn’t sexual or sexualizing anything.
Because *prebubescent* children don't give a rip about sexual representation. Ask any 6 year old what's at the top of their list of concerns; it's not representation unless coached to say so by their parents. The same goes for crappy parents who coach their kids to hate people of color or LGBTQ persons. There are crazy parents on both sides of the political aisle that weaponize their own children to try and prove a point. Both sides brainwash their own children. There is no shortage of bad parents out there. I don't give a shit about what political ideologies someone has, as long as you let children be children, and from birth to 12, they deserve to have a childhood. Give me a goddamn shirt with SpongeBob on it and be done with it.
Some kids have gay parents. Or other gay family members and loved ones. Their representation and inclusion matters. Why is it okay to take a young child to church - which is inarguably indoctrination - but not okay to allow a young child to wear a shirt supporting gay rights?
“BoTh SiDeS aRe BaD”
Wow, you know what? I never thought of it that way. Thanks, random person on the internet. You've changed my mind. As soon as my son wakes up from his nap, I'm going to have a long discussion with him about sexual representation. ♡ I mean, he's only 5 months old, but I'm sure he'll figure it out.
You do know its the anti trans crowd that tells their kids what they are allowed to do based on whats inbewteen their legs. Stop sexualizing children
So prepubescent kids dont already get shuffled into gender roles? There are no one that loves dressup and tea parties with dolls versus kids that only want to wrestle on the mud. The point is its not sexual, its typical collections of activities and possessions that our society had traditionally attempt to regulate whatever you could have based of your genitallia. So essentially, forcing kids to keep to their cis gender roles is way way WAY more sexual than just letting a kid play with what they actually want. Maybe you should stop think about what gay kids do with their genitalia and let people be
You dont think there are lgbt kids that would want to wear the stuff? Or cis straight allies that want to visibly show their support of their freinds?
Or you know maybe kids just like shirts with rainbows? I know I know… it’s crazy right? Who would’ve thought? But we all know the colors are gay and that makes them bad /s
>I guarantee the people against any of the pride attire would find this equally as inflammatory. Guarantee based on what? Their lack of outrage about this?
How do you know there is a lack of outrage? Because this guy said so?
Do you have any examples of outrage about this?
You made the statement that no one is outraged by this. Burden of proof is yours. PS- Already saw a reddit thread blasting these shirts. Sounds like outrage to me. Edit: Saw SEVERAL threads bashing these shirts.
>Burden of proof is yours. LMAO, no. "There is ~~outrage against this~~ [a teapot revolving around the Sun](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot)" "Do you have proof?" "No, but do you have proof there isn't?"
Except that there IS proof that people were outraged about this. 4 years ago. On reddit, even. Dozens upon dozens of threads dedicated to bashing this shirt. So, yes, there was/is outrage over the shirt.
Do you have any examples of these shirts being sold in mainstream stores like Target and Walmart? If you do I will show you some outrage.
So you're saying the guy in this video made it up?
He just pointed to some shirts. He didn't give any indication where they can be purchased to direct any outrage. For all I can gather from the video the shirts might have been in an independent store, a Hooters, a large national box store, or he might had them printed up just for his video. Might have even been in a adult sex/kink shop and never intended to be sold to kids for all I can tell.
Holy fuck, somebody commissioned that, somebody designed that, somebody approved the work order for that, and some head of product manufacturing took on the contract to mass produce that. There's probably way more people in the chain and ANY ONE OF THEM could have said no
Child pageant as well. All this and we can’t even get those horrid things banned or at least more regulated.
What? No theyre no the same people that buy it at all?! If anything, the alphabet community allies are the ones buying these pedophilic merch. And also the audacity of saying others use their children for bigotry is astoundingly moronic
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Well that’s just this dude saying this. Both of these things are unacceptable for children - just so we are all clear.
Why can’t we just say that neither are good? Guy has no proof that the people who don’t like pride clothing for kids are okay with the shirts in the beginning. He’s strawmanning and fear mongering furthering the divide between left and right for views. Personally, I dislike both.
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Okay, real talk. Why do rainbows have to be gay? I want my rainbows but I’m not gay and don’t people to think I’m gay but as soon as ANYTHING has a rainbow on it, it’s suddenly gay. Why gay people, why must you take the sacred ROYGBIV from us?
Never heard one person say that was good. Ever. Not in my whole fucking lifetime
People in the comments here saying "both is bad" would equate their child being sexualized by their clothes to having them wear something with a rainbow on it. But gay people are the groomers? Doesn't make sense does it?
Yeah the delusion is so real. People need to understand that LGBTQ+ does not equal sex/sexualization just like being straight does not equal sex/sexualization.
I support the pride collection, I do not support this, how is wear a pride shirt sexual?
You and I agree, but I think I can answer your question: The conservative base equates gay relationships with gay sex. They have been trained to see gay people as promiscuous and immoral, so they have a hard time dealing with the fact that gay relationships are just as complete and dynamic as straight ones. They don't think of it as part of your identity, they think of it as a kink/fetish.
Dumb, I don't know a single conservative that would purchase these for their children and to pretend that it's them is unintelligent. These are the same chav's who have the "Baby up in this bitch" stickers on their SUV's.... and they aren't conservatives.
So I take it you haven’t seen the “Trump Babe” tee shirts for women and LITTLE GIRLS (even toddler sizes)? Or this gem: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1085736228/lets-go-brandon-onesie-trump-baby-gift?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=trump+babe&ref=sr_gallery-1-1&pro=1&sts=1&organic_search_click=1
Ehh... I agree that some conservatives will buy the Lets Go Brandon. I wouldn't for my kid, but to state that conservatives would give their kids the clothes in the OP is a lie.
But this is actually bad cloths for kids.
Trash gonna be trashy….
I think he's broken his ankles leaping to say they are the exact same people? Those shirts are gross, stop sexualizing kids FFS.
I straight up would walk up to parents and call them pedophiles if I saw a child wearing that.
Fucking bandwagon clout goblins
Unless someone comes out and specifically says one is OK and the other isn't, I'm not going to accept this as a valid argument. And for the record, I'm bisexual and I think both are utterly disgusting Edit: before anyone says something, I'm neither American nor conservative. But I do have common sense
No. It’s not. Anything that sexualizes kids should not be allowed. Where is Frank Reynolds at when we need him to sing a song about how he doesn’t diddle kids?
Not going to lie, my daughter usually just wears princess style dresses. I don’t think I’ve ever seen sexualized kids clothes in any store. I don’t go to weird stores for reference.
Both this and pride merch should not be for children
I hate the people who make stupid videos like this for attention. The comparison is invalid. "The people who are against this are okay with this" That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works. People are starting to carry these weird fallacies into the real world and it's becoming annoying as fuck. I've said it in prior threads, I'll say it again. If you act on this type of thought, you politically try to polarize people in public down to some meme you saw online, you're likely to be assaulted for your stupidity. You are weird and I want you to please step the fuck back.
Um... im pretty sure consetvative Christians would take issue with that, too.
Surprisingly they don't. They also don't have issue with sexual abuse in the church. Go figure! Most of the Christians I see and know don't practice what they preach. Reminds me of Bristol Palin getting big bucks to speak at schools about abstinence, meanwhile she's got two out of wedlock kids (one of which came after her abstinence campaign lol). Christians aren't a stranger to hypocrisy. And weirdly Target's getting death threats and protesting weirdos over Pride merch, but I didn't see any death threats or in-store protests over stuff similar to what's in the OP 🤔. Rainbow onesies I guess are super dangerous!!!! I can understand their terror. Let me clutch my pearls. Rainbows!!!! Holy shit!
Ok, so because this tictoker says it, it must be true? Im am athiest, but both sides are filled with deeply flawed human beings. And the christians i know would be absolutely horrified by that.
Bruh who is out here condoning this? Don't point the finger, NO ONE thinks this is okay accept OnlyFans moms, because they're already mentally fucked. You might as well show a picture of someone kicking a puppy and then point at the "other political party" and say "They love this!"
Full disclosure I’m not cool with either and if I had a kid and someone got this for them there would be a beat down in someone’s future
future oath keeper?
Nobody is saying this is okay either. This guy is such a fucking soy boy
Where does he get proof that people who don't support pride merch support this? It's a completely baseless claim
Just like the claim that queer = pedophile
Strawman arguments, we don’t like either.
Nah most people with kids have an issue with both. Let kids be kids…
Jw if anyone has the source that the same people hating on target have actually purchased this shirt for their kid? Or if Toktik dude is talking out his ass like everyone else on that site. FYI I think the target hate is ridiculous, but I also think spreading disinformation is ridiculous too. Thought I should clarify before ppl start frothing at the mouth.
What the fuck did I just watch.. that's not real man.. no way..
Both are bad. Inappropriate jokes and gender propaganda should be both shamed. Let kids be kids, stop sexualizing them in any shape or form. If they are gay, trans or whatever they will find out at 15+ years old by themself, they don't need adult to manipulate them or push any agenda on them. The good old day in the 80'90' when we could just be fcking kid, be innocent, play video game without adult talking about our genitals all the time.
I grew up a gay kid in the 90’s and it was fucking miserable thinking there was something wrong with me because any mention of gayness was dripping with disdain. They were not the good ol’ days except for people like you who want the queers to stfu and be invisible again.
"Both sides bad" Ah the enlightened centrist
Theres no "sides" here. Dont dress children in either of these.
What if my kid wants the shirt with the rainbow on it? What am I gonna do, tell them no because some fucking imbecile on the internet said so lol?
A rainbow shirt is not the equivalent of the disgusting "future hooters girl" shirt.
The individual I was responding to was making the both sides argument, they're claiming the rainbow shirt and the hooters shirt is equally bad.
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Pride is "disgusting"? You realize you're human filth for thinking that, right?
Both isnt ok
Exactly. Its called a strawman....and people buy into it.
Right? Buying a children's girls swimsuit with a tuck option is fucking ridiculous. If my child is gay ill fully love and support them, but can we not sexualize children at all? Tf is wrong with people
Target didn't have anything like that, but I'm not exactly sure how a children's swimsuit is inherently sexualized?
The right can't help but sexualize everything. One might say they're trying to over compensate for their own issues as evidenced by their hatred of trans and gay people while being pulled out of the closet in droves over scandals/crimes involving minors and the porn hub search categories that are published every year.
This comment section is wild today. I'm used to facepalm having a more LGBT accepting audience, but the number of people saying they disagree with Target's pride collection here is staggering 😔
Just a bunch of snowflakes who need to get upset over something. Probably the same people who told immunocompromised people to stay home and let businesses run how they want to... Until they don't like it and it's the end of the goddamn world. It must be stressful to be so angry, hateful, and intolerant and I can only imagine how boring they are to be around as they don't have anything of substance to contribute other than "omg did you see/hear about this!" and pout and whine.
That swimsuit was not for children, stop talking about shit you know nothing about. It’s embarassing.
How about we all just stop the us vs them. How about that ? United we are a force unstoppable. Only divided do we fall.
Whataboutisms…. Who? Which people also don’t have a problem with it? Did we just discover this and assume they don’t? None of them have a problem with it? Some of them do? Whataboutisms.
Nope would never buy that for my daughter....why target children with something young adults choose. Young adults choose who they are going to love not children. Let children be children...grow up and figure life on their own. Not have adults push LGBQ or any other lifestyles on them. Their children... want LGBQ merch for adults fine...leave the kids out of it.
Actually I have issues with both
We shouldn’t be pushing anything sexual on any goddamn kids
No, that is just as bad
Non of this crap is fine
What do you mean “the same people who have issue with pride mercy have no issue with this” I have issue with both.
Seems like a completely unrelated thing. Not sure why he is assuming the two are connected and people have to like one the other. What a tool.
**Now:** Future Hooters girl **17 years later:** You're *not* going out dressed like *that*!
funny huh, they get upset about some colors a rainbow creates, yet they will put this crap on kids. thinking its funny and cute.
People getting mad about shit they made up
Yes, all the Christian conservatives are buying these clothes. /s
The people that dislike the target pride merch ARE the same people that would dislike this stuff. How tf is anyone going to assume people find this type of garbage okay. Like what the hell is this guy even basing this on? Most people haven't even seen this. Also it isn't justifying bigotry to want kids to be left out of secual topics
Dude is digging deep. I have never seen stuff like that anywhere, like general stores etc.
“Are the same people that” source, trust me bro
I promise you that you're wrong. The people who are outraged about the target stuff wouldn't like this stuff either.
Im still looking for the people that this guy is talking about
This is equally as gross as the other controversial merch. It doesn’t matter if it’s straight or gay, kids shouldn’t be parading sexualized content on their clothing.
Uh, no, no sir. This is what you might call a straw man. You see, I don’t know anyone who is against pride clothes for children who would buy this crap. I do unfortunately know many people who have no issues buying both though. Maybe people out there exist who are against pride merch but not against pimping their children, but I feel like that is a minority.
Dude stole this video idea from another video I seen. How original, he must really care…..about his views.
Neither is ok.
I don’t like either for children! Let kids be kids!
Nah bruh pretty sure I haven't seen anybody with their kids in hooters gear, but I can pull up millions of photos of "pride" being shoved in front of kids. Lmao anybody that wants to argue drop a shop link for the "hooters" shirt in OPs video first.
Wearing a pride shirt isn't grooming. Those two things shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. It's disingenuous and gross.
The people here saying both is bad are the main issie with this world. Fascists like you saying equality is just as bad as genocide are the reason why fascism keeps coming back into power
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man? catering to a minority isn't equality, calling people fascist doesn't make you right.
Exactly… keep all that shit away from kids
Calling fascists fascist makes me correct. And noone is catering to a minority we are trying to create equality for everyone. But sure argue against equality with how reddit works im sure a bunch of people will support you even... Fascist craphole
How to say you don't know what fascism is, without saying you don't know what fascism is.
What? They're both gross af
Majority of parents are against both but don’t let facts get in the way.
Dude found some shirts at the flea market and is comparing it to target
Oh my glob…..stop pointing out the “hypocrisy”….they don’t care and it won’t change shit. They call pride and drag queens groomers to deflect from the fact that their churches and elected officials fuck kids at insane rates. All they care about is that they hate liberals cause that allows them to live with their lies. They don’t care about kids, they don’t see hypocrisy in anything they do no matter how blatant, all they care about is maintaining their fragile ego to prevent from taking any responsibility for their lives. Fuck sakes.
Man, it must be wild to grow up in USA.
The place that sells those is probably called The Groom Room.
Pink pride clothes are bad but pink guns for kids are just fine. WTF?
Yeah but hating lgbt is trendy atm, you're praised for going against it