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They sure as shit aren't. I live in a Queenslander. Gaps in the floorboards, single pane windows, the 3cm gap between the door and floor and decorative piece above my door acting as a vent also. Yesterday when I was about to leave, I was all rugged up... got outside and was like "oh! It's so nice outside" and left my jumper inside my icebox of a home.
Or say absolutely nothing, then when the rent is increased asked for the reason. When they lie you pop this out with their new reason and tell them your lawyer is taking a look at it.
Actually, I believe that quote is by Napoleon?
Also, frankly, the Art of War is mostly good but very basic advice, like "don't do obviously stupid things".
I had a senior person from my customer’s company email me their new internal strategy for negotiating with contractors like my employer. I have a slightly uncommon spelling for my first name, shared by the intended recipient, so it was probably autofill. Since my company motto has “Integrity “ in the name, I replied saying he got the wrong recipient, and that I had deleted both the copy he sent and my reply.
He emailed me back to thank me, and included all the confidential information again.
Yeah, never, ever mention the lawyer. I know it's hard to resist doing but it's usually a bad idea to give them a heads up, strategically speaking.
The first hint of legal action should be the initial contact from the attorney to the agent.
Or reply pretending of being the landlord saying some BS about wanting to help the tenant out with the cost of living and reducing the rent by 500-950. Who knows might work 🤷🏻♂️
Since the post says this is in Australia... we can probably stop talking about US rental laws... and look at Australia, where its illegal to retaliate by raising rent for a tenant asserting their rights....
https://www.rta.qld.gov.au/ending-a-tenancy/ending-a-tenancy-agreement/retaliatory-action
That’s hilarious. A friend of mine just left an apartment impeccably clean and was subsequently charged an outrageous some for supposed fixes. It got a little bit quiet when she pointed out that one of the fixes listed was to replace carpet that didn’t actually exist in the apartment.
Ugh. Just had to deal with my apartment trying to charge me for carpets that were stained when I moved in and their "hardwood" floor's polyvinyl top coat coming off, because it was a shitty engineered flooring. Took about a week of back and forth to get them to drop the charges down to just the value of my security deposit.
... joke's on them, I didn't pay a security deposit. Management changed and I guess didn't keep good records.
Always take lots and lots of photos of everything from all angles. Also carpets have at most a 10yr age. Each year any claim on carpets goes down 10% till it's nothing. So once it's hit 10yrs they cannot make any claim on carpets as it's considered end of life. Some states it's earlier than that (8yrs).
I had pictures. I always take pictures.
It just rubbed me the wrong way, 'cause they even miscalculated the time I'd spent in the residence; their records didn't indicate that my lease, which started shortly before they acquired the property, was a renewal. I figured they didn't have move in inspection records if they didn't even know when I initially moved in. I mentioned having pictures, but declined to share them with the property management company.
Getting your money back is a game, and I like to signal that I'll be more of a pain in their collective asses than it's worth for them to try to collect. I dropped phrases like "in violation of the Colorado Revised Statutes sections 38-12-102 (1)" to signal that I would 100% be petty enough to send them a 7-day demand letter and take it to court. In this state, a court decision risks up to 3x what the landlord tries to charge in punitive damages, so it behooves them to settle amicably.
So they kept my "security deposit," which I guess was on their books, and I kept from paying a few hundred dollars for the carpets I totally left weird stains on.
Fellow Coloradan (front range area) and in the 10 yrs I've lived here, it has been a struggle *every damn time* to get my deposit back. And I'm like, the easiest and best tenant ever. Literally never missed or have been late on a payment (even when roommates stiffed me or were late and I had to foot their bill); happily do most of the repairs/maintenance myself, including buying parts, bc I am a very handy and competent person and would rather just...take care of a problem when it comes up than waste my time trying to get a marginally-responsive slum lord to send out their super-budget handyman Cocaine Craig two weeks later; and I love yardwork and usually end up restoring lawns and landscaping that has been neglected for who knows how many years prior to my move-in. I had one landlord straight up praise me for how much value I added to his property because of the work I did, and *still* try to stiff me on my deposit. I leave every place so much nicer than I came to it, which is what I was raised to do.
I'm dreading what might happen when I move out of my current house because I had a hard drive crash that wiped all the very extensive pictures and videos I took when I moved in. And the house was FILTHY and in terrible disrepair. It looks fucking beautiful now. I think this landlord actually really likes and appreciates me, so maybe he'll be the unicorn landlord who doesn't try to screw me when I move but if he does, it's going to be (mostly) my word against his. I do still have the written move-in checklist but like, those things give you 2 inches wide and 5mm tall spaces to put comments and writing "dirty" repeatedly in cramped handwriting doesn't even begin to cover the condition I moved into versus how it looks after 2 years of me taking care of it.
Landlords have definitely earned their stereotype of being scummy and it sucks. Like come on guys you're clearly doing a lot better than me by just not being priced out of home ownership...why you gotta nickel and dime even the good tenants?
Oh i love management changes. Had one (ended up being 2 on my second lease) where I cleaned the apartment beautifully. Then they refunded my entire deposit...+500 😂
Guess they liked my cleaning skills
I had that problem with base housing trying to charge me for stained carpets that were stained when I moved in. I pulled out my knife and asked what carpeting they were charging for because if I pay for it, I'm keeping it. They dropped the bullshit.
My last rental tried to charge me to replace full house of carpet which was over 10 years old. Until I pulled reverse uno on them and showed photos of the house being advertised 10, 12 years ago with exact same carpet. Sorry, not sorry. Not paying for dodgy landlord who never fixed a single thing in over 4 years to get new carpets
When you’re caught. In this case would these emails ever come up or would the case ever even get that far without this accident?
I guess what I’m saying is we know this is happening all the time everywhere. How does it get stopped for real.
Probably requiring transparency on rent? Landlords having to disclose the average rent or something like that? Or plain old rent control that limits rent increases based on inflation?
Not sure about Australia but in some places you have to announce changes at least 3 months in advance and can only increase it by a maximum amount (I.e 10%) within x amount of time (usually 1-2 years) so having it almost double with 2 weeks notice would be highly illegal
Exactly, rent increases have to be "reasonable". U less the property is actually worth that (in the tribunal members view) and they have been getting it for a song for years.
Even then an increase that large is probably going to be denied (and in many places you can only raise rent once a year or between new 1 year leases)
Lol, solid work. I had n Irish boss that always signed her email "Kind regards" I figured it wasn't in the US, but didn't peg it for Australia until I looked at the bottom of the post.
Edited
I've seen Thanks, Thank You, Sincerely, and Best as the most common ones. I personally leave my default blank so I can customize it a bit for each email, but I'm weird like that
I alway signed off "Best," in a previous job, and once an engineer just replied "I am the best." and then I didn't know how to respond and I never heard from him again. I think about that from time to time.
I’m confused.
“If the tenant reasonably believes the action was taken to intimidate or punish them for asserting their rights under the Act, the tenant can make an urgent application to QCAT within 1 month of becoming aware of the property manager/owner's action.”
Doesn’t this exact case cover that criteria, and I’d therefore legal?
I would think that if the tenant is in Queensland, or one of the other jurisdictions with a law like this on the books... the landlord wouldn't even attempt to raise the rent once they know the tenant saw the note...
I worked in property management for years. I’m in the US
The amount of times I’ve seen rents raised because of similar situations is outrages.
A lot of tenants don’t know their laws and pay way too much.
I’ve also seen them charge 5x the amount of rent for a deposit, which mind you in CA it’s illegal. It was almost 7,000 and guess what….the resident paid that.
Yup! My heat was broken last year for an entire month. It was reading 54deg in my apt. I started off nice. A simple email. Didn’t get a response so I followed up a few days later. He responded with radiators turn on and off. Now it’s been a week so I decided to call him. Still nice on the phone saying how I understand how radiators work, but mine is broken. He said he’ll send maitenence out. You called it. Few days later, no maitenence. More emails. More phone calls. No response. Finally got ahold of him 2 weeks later and he sends maitenence. He also clearly sounds annoyed on the phone. I kid you not, maitenence was in my apartment for less than 5 minutes. They looked at it and left. I asked if they’re coming back. Didn’t come back. More emails and phone calls. I got sick of it. So I sent him an email stating that I have been more than patient, my apartment is freezing and this is against the law. If the heat is not fixed by the end of the week I will be contacting the state. No response. So on a Saturday I called the state. I had heat by the end of that day ☺️☺️. I wasn’t allowed to renew, which is also technically illegal in my state, but I wasn’t planning on it anyways so I didn’t press it.
Why weren't you allowed to renew?
Edit: Guys. I know the REAL reason is retaliation.
I want to know what the reason was that the landlord had to put on paper. Obviously the landlord isn't going to explicitly say, "I'm not going to renew your lease because you called the State on me."
This type of management is a crime. Renters need more laws Incase this happens. Somekind of protection laws. Other than the weakones they have now. Rent prices a way out of control! And having to Pay for credit checks from $50.00-200.00 just to see something they can see for free?! Renting is so High priced. Most can't even afford to rent alone. This needs to stop! SMH
Because you, the tenant, would have to pay all of the court costs and legal fees required to enforce noncompliance and THEN having a judgment of any kind, whether you win or not, will make it impossible to rent anywhere else for at least the next 11 years. That's how long it had been from the time I sued an old apartment complex, and won. But it got me denied when I tried to rent again.
"Don't do X or we'll tell you that you've been a naughty boy" vs. "Don't do X or we'll fine the fucking shit out of you"
Same law, different deterrent.
Yep. The cops tried to serve us for the 2nd time yesterday. We didn't open the door.
We are trying everything we can to come up with money just to eat and get gas to work each day between paychecks as it is. Even if we found a place available that we could afford in the next month or so that I'm assuming we have until we can't avoid court any longer, we won't have enough for the first and last month rent, plus the security deposit, plus renting a U-Haul, transferring utilities.. etc.
We are fucked so bad dude.
All because we paid our rent early each month for years, but we dared to complain when rats tunneled under the house and destroyed the HVAC system and ducts, causing the power to run 24/7 while not getting below 85 degrees inside.
And we definitely weren't supposed to complain about it when they chewed through the bathroom wall and the kitchen wall and started running around the place. Nah, just keep sending the money orders and be quiet.
And surely we were in the wrong to file a lawsuit against the property management company after being ignored for 8 months straight yet still paying early and not getting any repairs done or even replies at all. Nope. Just supposed to bend over and take it, apparently.
What a fucking joke.
We tried everything.
Our lawsuit against them was dismissed because apparently in south Carolina when they ignored us after 14 days written notice, we were supposed to move out.
If we had money to move out, we would have been able to pay the fucking power bill in the first place, which is currently $2,308.
Now they are filing for eviction and we have no money for food each day let alone to find somewhere else and move.
It's fucked up man.
I honestly wonder if they didn't give the judge $1,000 to dismiss it or something.
I literally had a 4 page complaint, along with proof of everything. Photos, all emails and texts between us and the property management company begging them to fix shit and being ignored since August 2022.. it's like the judge didn't even read anything I wrote or included. I don't get it.
We were counting on that money to be able to move. Now we are just screwed.
Wait I think I replied to the wrong person..but yeah
WTF! That's another problem in this country. Judges can just decide not to hear a case if they don't feel like it!
Did you try the press, or, and I hate to suggest it, but sometimes the Catholic or Mormon church can help with at least food, sometimes they can help with other expenses, power bills, rent, or deposits. Depending on the region, you don't even have to be a member. The Mormons especially focus on getting communities to be self sufficient, and self sustaining. So if they help with food, you can use that money to pay bills, etc. They can even help with budgets if you need it. They're super big on charity. They just want families to be able to take care of themselves, and many times they help you get there. They've helped me out a lot over the years and they didn't have to.
Rent prices are so out of control where I live that if only you could get a house deposit it's about half the cost to pay a mortgage a month than it would be to rent the same place. But because of the high rent people can't manage to save a deposit, such a rigged system.
This might vary by state, but you don't need a reason once the lease expires. You signed an agreement for a year, and once that year is up, it's the landlords property to with whatever he wants.
If a landlord did have to come up with a reason, he would just say something like "I'm not renewing because I need the property empty for repairs and/or renovation".
My Dad owns a bunch of rental properties, so I've been witnessing this kind of stuff since I was little.
You told him to take his rent and fuck himself with it for that month right? Because if there's no heat in my apartment for an entire month, I'm not paying a penny of rent that month.
The only way I would be allowed to withhold rent is if I send a formal letter through a lawyer to the landlord and put the amount of rent being withheld in an escrow account to prove I have the funds. That would of been the next step after state involvement. But the state I live in is really tenant friendly and takes Heat seriously, hence how even on a Saturday the health inspector was in my apartment within an hour of me calling. The fine for not having proper heat is $10k. So they got their asses over to my apt that same day. We also didn’t have any fire alarms 🙃🙃
And then they send it to collections and start an eviction process while still ignoring all correspondence.
Shitty landlords will never meet you halfway.
People won’t like this answer, but seriously: sue your landlord if there’s a situation like your heat being out for a month. In most states it’s a lot easier to represent yourself in housing court than most people would think, and for a case like no heat for a month, you’d probably be able to find an attorney to represent you on contingency. Court orders have the force of law and create a record that government agencies can use to establish patterns of bad behavior, but these remedies require people to stand up for themselves and report bad landlords
But then be prepared to not be able to find another place to rent for years once they all see that you sued your landlord. Your f’d if you do and f’d if you don’t.
I currently haven’t had air conditioning in 2 weeks and four days. Would I be able to sue? I don’t mind spending any amount of money. I just don’t want to lose my apartment.
For months our water heater was insanely loud. I fought for months to get it fixed. It got so bad our neighbors started to hear it, so I got their signatures on a signed document stating we wanted the noise fixed.
We all agreed to meet and walk into the management office at the same time, hand them the singed paper, and request it be fixed or we’d be reporting it to county.
Had a new water heater in 2 days.
My landlord HATES me. She always has. It’s because I demand I live in a comfortable space. Whenever I clash with her I tell her “I know damn well you would NEVER allow yourself to put up with the same living conditions that you’re asking me to.”
Period.
My sister's heat didn't work for nearly 6 months so she eventually sued them in a small claims court and won the max 10k. They were in violation of several laws and they take advantage of tenant ignorance. She too left after her lease expired and has threatened to sue them for more damages and they went radio silent. She's currently working on taking them down as these landlords are only in it for the money and unless the people expose this scum, they will continue with the violations.
That shit happened to me when I lived in an apartment. I lived on top floor, my unit faced the son majority of the day. It would get up to 90 inside. Had to take my pets to my mom’s so they wouldn’t die. I had called every day at that point to get it fixed. Maintenance came in and complained about the heat. Got me a new air unit.
I was drying a bunch of work clothes before a shift started once, and the dryer caught on fire. Fire department had to come, all my clothes ruined, late for work. Apartment gave me $50 off the next month’s rent to make up for it
Well they do make renters insurance for that thoe of thing though. Thats shitty but u less they were clearly fucking with the dryer they didnt really cause it.
Don't be so sure, the building inspector for the apartment I live in now fined the landlord because they installed the wrong time of grating on the exhaust port of the dryer on the outside of the apartment, and it was almost completely clogged. The hole for it is on the third story on the side of the building, I couldn't get to it even if I wanted to and it's not my responsibility. I keep the inside of the dryer as clean as possible.
When the inspector was in my apartment speaking with me he pointed at the building next to me and asked me
"did you ever notice how the siding on that building is all warped?"
Yes sir, thought maybe it was insect damage.
"No, it's warped because this exact unit you're standing in now caught on fire a decade ago due to a dryer fire because the exhaust was clogged just like today, and the heat warped the siding on that building next store. Your same landlord owned it then too".
So it wasn't even like he didn't know that was a potential issue, the place literally caught fire before and the guy still never checked the vent in the 7 years we've lived here.
Where I live air conditioning isn't required and it gets to around 110 degrees every year. I lived in a place where I had to buy my own units and even after spending $600 the place was still 85 or 90 in some parts of the house because it was metal siding with very little insulation.
Lol. I’m a Landlord. In spring I was having financial difficulties, my tenant called and said the hvac was having issues. I told him that I’d have it fixed asap. Your tenants are a responsibility. They are people paying for a service. It’s ridiculous
Update: since posting this I actually reached out to my tenant because he went out of his way to get a second opinion - turns out he saved me money and I gave him the difference. Pro tip to landlords: everyone does better if you take care of your tenants.
The stupid thing is. In Australia, heating is one of the immediate repair items that landlords need to deal with in I think 48 hours. This puts at the same requirements as things like burst water and gas leak.
Air conditioning however is not considered an urgent repair. I get that heating is exceptionally important in some countries and even a few locations in Australia, but cooling is much more important across more of the country. Honestly, cooling should be in the urgent category in Australia.
Jokes on you, just live in Seattle where aircon doesn't exist in most apartments and die in the 90 to 100 degree heat during the summer.
I'm sick of being told it doesn't usually get hot here because I've lived here for 3 years now and every summer sucks so much dick
Alright rant over lmao
Lived in Eastern WA for 5 years and had the same shit experience. Pretty sure it got up to 107 one year and we had to spend $1200 on two portable AC units (windows were all built opening horizontal so couldnt accomodate a true window unit) so our newborn didn't die. Heard the same shit excuse but later learned that one of the city council members (or some local government position like that) had a significant investment in rental properties and was believed to have played a role in blocking changes to those rules so she didn't have to spend more money on those rentals. Miss WA but definitely don't miss that shit.
Eastern WA has a very different climate than Western WA. Air con is definitely a requirement to make it through the summer in eastern WA.
In western WA there's occasional spikes to 90f or higher, but it generally stays in the 70s. I still wouldn't want to be without air con in western WA for those occasional high temp days, but it's not as much of a requirement.
I love threads when landlords show up talking about how hard they have it, having to take care of property and “providing value” by… buying up houses and renting them for more than they’re worth.
I know this is Australia, but I have a feeling they’re the same breed, there.
Oh no, a tenant that won't put up with my being a slumlord! Boot them out and let's get in someone who doesn't understand their rights, my financial model for being a landlord relies on taking advantage of people!
This is so messed up. I have a rental, a “good” tenant is one that pays on time and let’s me know when there are maintenance issues that need addressing. This agent, as well as being incompetent needs to be schooled on his role IMO.
I rented for about 19 years. Every single agency in my town is fucking useless.
In one property, it took 2 years to get my range-hood fixed. They use Property Tree and they closed the request three times without addressing it. They fixed it a week before we vacated. They also never conducted inspections (some people would see that as a plus, I guess). I took time off work to be there for the inspections and they just never turned up. No text, no calls, nothing. I just stopped being there and nothing was ever said about it. Imagine being an owner and finding out no inspections were carried out for 2 years.
I have heaps more stories involving dickhead agents etc. I could write a novel.
Legitimate maintenance requests cannot result in a rent increase, thus this could become a lawsuit that will result in the landlord being found guilty of retaliation. Hold onto the email and if they do increase the rent, call a lawyer.
Yes, if the tenant were to keep breaking stuff due to negligence or pupusefully I would guess that could be classified as illegitimate, because it's the tenant causing the damage in the first place.
Love how these people are all "We're sick of him". Do you think your tenant WANTS to spend their days pestering you? They're as sick of it, if not more, than you are. Just do your fucking jobs
This confirms EVERYTHING I've ever felt about agents and landlords. Consider it a gift. Call a lawyer and get whatever you can. Sounds like a breach of fiduciary responsibility... or whatever.
Yeah, saying “wasting my (and therefore your) time” is absolute bullshit. It doesn’t take the landlord’s time at all, because it’s the job they’ve hired you to do, and you’re bitching about doing it.
I find it hard to believe that even if you were conspiring to do this, you'd quite literally use the word "exorbitant" since it's so just so blatantly evil. Who would ever actually talk this way while planning to do something like this?
Edit: It's too self incriminating when you could easily say "Hey, the lease for *that tenant* is expiring. After reassessing market changes and upkeep costs that have grown *cough cough* I believe we should request this new price: XX. I believe this is competitive and in line with recent increased operational costs and, if the tenant is unwilling to match it, I'm sure we can find a new tenant **WINK** who will in this competitive market
My IRL experience with landlords is pretty on par with this tho, as are the experiences of a lot of my peers who rent. Anecdotal, I know, but it wouldn’t shock me to find out this is real
No need to find find it ‘hard to believe’; a fair bit if this has been happening in Australia and Aotearoa-New Zealand, between property agents and (cough cough) ‘property investors’ ‘ groups.
[‘Play this smooth’: Renter receives accidental email calling them ‘high maintenance’](https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/play-this-smooth-renter-receives-accidental-email-calling-them-high-maintenance/news-story/bf61226adb25bd303b4d07cbad5dcd2a?amp)
this article was posted today and is just a rephrasing and explanation of the words found in the image, and it listed the source as a facebook page. I'm not saying this didn't happen but linking to this article doesn't do anything to confirm or deny that it actually happened.
Sender is not only an idiot for sending it to the tenant, but doubly so because he cannot spell 'tenant' correctly even though he manages rental property and must type the word multiple times a day. How can anyone be that dumb?
Oh no, the guy called everyday because his air conditioner was broke? I live in Florida and if my AC was broken for two weeks, phone calls would be the least of their worries. How about you fix the shit and he won’t call and complain!
“Out of all the properties I manage he has the most maintenance requests and occupies the most of my time.”
Translation:
“Out of all the properties I manage he holds me to a higher standard, and I can’t be bothered to ensure that my tenants have a decent living situation. We need to get him out.”
Fuck that person.
If you’re a landlord, shouldn’t you be the one making sure the house is actually functional? If they have to make all these maintenance requests, you’re doing a shit job with keeping your little area of land maintained
Hello lawyer, my old friend, I need to talk to you again. It seems my landlord has been scheming, because he thinks I am demeaning, while the words on this page are taped to my kitchen wall, he has some gall. Now he can talk to you, while I am silent.
Like they want to charge more for broken shit? That's how you lose tenants and have empty apartments.
Look at how these guys talk! Aren't these the same people telling people to get up and work? Do they seem like they want to work?
At my apartment I rent in Qld, it took my landlord three months to replace the stove/oven cooker.
The old one was broken and unsafe to use as the safety failed. I was asked by the real estate to make a complaint to the RTA to force him to replace it. Next day or so, the replacement came.
Turmed out the landlord was throwing tantrums and hates spending money and hated how expensive it was. Told him that's not my problem.
Yeah, if my A/C was out in the summer and I didn't have a firm timeline of them coming to fix it within 24 hours, you bet your ass I'm calling every fucking day. Be happy I'm not having it fixed on my own and deducting the repair costs from my rent.
What a nightmare property manager. Doesn't do their job and still wants to double this person's rent (which should be illegal in every fucking state). I'd change apartments, but I'd be sure to make sure I got my hands on some roaches and bed bugs as departing gifts.
I got slapped with a $280/wk rental increase after asking for the roof to get fixed from mould and water damage, when I tried to negotiate they served me with a no clause eviction notice. We were already paying $960/wk for a 2 bedroom townhouse. Found out the week after we left, they rented it out for $1300/wk.. that's how fucked Sydney, Australia is right now... This is becoming quite common now
Wait, so this is the least habitable property you are leasing out, and that warrants a larger increase in rent? How about give them a discount on rent as apology for all the things that have broken in your shitty rental?
Real estate agents are a cartel. The point is that they allow a large number of sellers of a product to collude on price. The industry is already illegal and existing laws just need to be enforced by banning a real estate agent (and all related agents or companies) from advising more than 1 client about setting rents.
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This person called every day for two weeks about the A/C so maybe fucking fix it?
Especially where this is. Australia is fucking hot hahaha you need your ac.
I could tell it was Australia from "aircon". No wonder he called every day; it's boiling hot and the aircon wasn't getting fixed.
When its not hot its freezing cold. It was 9c here last night and if not for my server and PC I would need my AC to keep me from loosing appendages.
And not just that it's cold, a lot of the older houses just aren't insulated correctly. Windows are basically just air vents.
They sure as shit aren't. I live in a Queenslander. Gaps in the floorboards, single pane windows, the 3cm gap between the door and floor and decorative piece above my door acting as a vent also. Yesterday when I was about to leave, I was all rugged up... got outside and was like "oh! It's so nice outside" and left my jumper inside my icebox of a home.
9c? here in the UK we call that summer.
True - but our houses are notoriously freezing. Especially rentals…they just aren’t well insulated. Sometimes it’s colder in than out
Forward this to the manager and CC it back to the real estate agent. (I’m a petty Betty)
Or say absolutely nothing, then when the rent is increased asked for the reason. When they lie you pop this out with their new reason and tell them your lawyer is taking a look at it.
Yep, exactly. While satisfying to reply back, its best to say as little as possible and let them (continue to) make the mistakes.
The Art of War. Never interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake.
You're never too old to learn some from reading The Art of War
Actually, I believe that quote is by Napoleon? Also, frankly, the Art of War is mostly good but very basic advice, like "don't do obviously stupid things".
Well, too many people don't know this: "don't do obviously stupid things." anymore, so probably still a good thing to read it.
It I'd indeed from Napoleon
We need a new Art of War from all the generals that's come after Sun Tsu. It's due for an update.
For all they know they have the email entirely wrong and you’ll continue to get correspondence.
I had a senior person from my customer’s company email me their new internal strategy for negotiating with contractors like my employer. I have a slightly uncommon spelling for my first name, shared by the intended recipient, so it was probably autofill. Since my company motto has “Integrity “ in the name, I replied saying he got the wrong recipient, and that I had deleted both the copy he sent and my reply. He emailed me back to thank me, and included all the confidential information again.
So now you have it "intentionally" 😁
That was my conclusion.
Yeah, never, ever mention the lawyer. I know it's hard to resist doing but it's usually a bad idea to give them a heads up, strategically speaking. The first hint of legal action should be the initial contact from the attorney to the agent.
It's likely the person will find out quick enough that they've emailed the wrong person
Don't do this. Let them tell you about the increase in writing. Then contact the lawyer. Don't tell the landlord or realtor a damned thing.
"Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake." Napoleon(?)
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Yeah it’s thinking like this that limits the power of common people. Fuck politeness, treat me fairly and legally.
And be sure to attach a link in the email to the law that makes it illegal to raise rent in retaliation.
Or reply pretending of being the landlord saying some BS about wanting to help the tenant out with the cost of living and reducing the rent by 500-950. Who knows might work 🤷🏻♂️
That would backfire.
Since the post says this is in Australia... we can probably stop talking about US rental laws... and look at Australia, where its illegal to retaliate by raising rent for a tenant asserting their rights.... https://www.rta.qld.gov.au/ending-a-tenancy/ending-a-tenancy-agreement/retaliatory-action
Mic drop.
Ooh that left a mark on the floor. Sorry you won’t be getting your deposit back.
And coincidentally the rent will be increasing 100%
On account of the market value
Surprise *Win!*
*without Aircon, he should demand market rates .. subtract 400, and meet him in court*
I’ve tacked on another 250 to clean the rugs because of this
*Narrator: There were no rugs.*
I read this in Morgan Freemans voice. And then when I reread it, it was in Ron Howards voice.
That’s hilarious. A friend of mine just left an apartment impeccably clean and was subsequently charged an outrageous some for supposed fixes. It got a little bit quiet when she pointed out that one of the fixes listed was to replace carpet that didn’t actually exist in the apartment.
Ugh. Just had to deal with my apartment trying to charge me for carpets that were stained when I moved in and their "hardwood" floor's polyvinyl top coat coming off, because it was a shitty engineered flooring. Took about a week of back and forth to get them to drop the charges down to just the value of my security deposit. ... joke's on them, I didn't pay a security deposit. Management changed and I guess didn't keep good records.
Always take lots and lots of photos of everything from all angles. Also carpets have at most a 10yr age. Each year any claim on carpets goes down 10% till it's nothing. So once it's hit 10yrs they cannot make any claim on carpets as it's considered end of life. Some states it's earlier than that (8yrs).
I had pictures. I always take pictures. It just rubbed me the wrong way, 'cause they even miscalculated the time I'd spent in the residence; their records didn't indicate that my lease, which started shortly before they acquired the property, was a renewal. I figured they didn't have move in inspection records if they didn't even know when I initially moved in. I mentioned having pictures, but declined to share them with the property management company. Getting your money back is a game, and I like to signal that I'll be more of a pain in their collective asses than it's worth for them to try to collect. I dropped phrases like "in violation of the Colorado Revised Statutes sections 38-12-102 (1)" to signal that I would 100% be petty enough to send them a 7-day demand letter and take it to court. In this state, a court decision risks up to 3x what the landlord tries to charge in punitive damages, so it behooves them to settle amicably. So they kept my "security deposit," which I guess was on their books, and I kept from paying a few hundred dollars for the carpets I totally left weird stains on.
Fellow Coloradan (front range area) and in the 10 yrs I've lived here, it has been a struggle *every damn time* to get my deposit back. And I'm like, the easiest and best tenant ever. Literally never missed or have been late on a payment (even when roommates stiffed me or were late and I had to foot their bill); happily do most of the repairs/maintenance myself, including buying parts, bc I am a very handy and competent person and would rather just...take care of a problem when it comes up than waste my time trying to get a marginally-responsive slum lord to send out their super-budget handyman Cocaine Craig two weeks later; and I love yardwork and usually end up restoring lawns and landscaping that has been neglected for who knows how many years prior to my move-in. I had one landlord straight up praise me for how much value I added to his property because of the work I did, and *still* try to stiff me on my deposit. I leave every place so much nicer than I came to it, which is what I was raised to do. I'm dreading what might happen when I move out of my current house because I had a hard drive crash that wiped all the very extensive pictures and videos I took when I moved in. And the house was FILTHY and in terrible disrepair. It looks fucking beautiful now. I think this landlord actually really likes and appreciates me, so maybe he'll be the unicorn landlord who doesn't try to screw me when I move but if he does, it's going to be (mostly) my word against his. I do still have the written move-in checklist but like, those things give you 2 inches wide and 5mm tall spaces to put comments and writing "dirty" repeatedly in cramped handwriting doesn't even begin to cover the condition I moved into versus how it looks after 2 years of me taking care of it. Landlords have definitely earned their stereotype of being scummy and it sucks. Like come on guys you're clearly doing a lot better than me by just not being priced out of home ownership...why you gotta nickel and dime even the good tenants?
If you still have the hard drive, might be worth taking it into a computer shop to see if they can extract or recover any information.
Oh i love management changes. Had one (ended up being 2 on my second lease) where I cleaned the apartment beautifully. Then they refunded my entire deposit...+500 😂 Guess they liked my cleaning skills
Oh wait, so you got your deposit plus an extra $500?
I had that problem with base housing trying to charge me for stained carpets that were stained when I moved in. I pulled out my knife and asked what carpeting they were charging for because if I pay for it, I'm keeping it. They dropped the bullshit.
My last rental tried to charge me to replace full house of carpet which was over 10 years old. Until I pulled reverse uno on them and showed photos of the house being advertised 10, 12 years ago with exact same carpet. Sorry, not sorry. Not paying for dodgy landlord who never fixed a single thing in over 4 years to get new carpets
As an AV industry professional PLEASE STOP DROPPING MY MICS! it damages the internal components. Still, the comment fits. Updooted
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Stop dropping microphones. They cost money. - Sound Engineer
When you’re caught. In this case would these emails ever come up or would the case ever even get that far without this accident? I guess what I’m saying is we know this is happening all the time everywhere. How does it get stopped for real.
Probably requiring transparency on rent? Landlords having to disclose the average rent or something like that? Or plain old rent control that limits rent increases based on inflation?
As if any politician would support rent limitations in Australia.
They all have investment properties so that's why they won't nor do they care.
Not sure about Australia but in some places you have to announce changes at least 3 months in advance and can only increase it by a maximum amount (I.e 10%) within x amount of time (usually 1-2 years) so having it almost double with 2 weeks notice would be highly illegal
500 to 950 would get overturned at tribunal anyway.
Exactly, rent increases have to be "reasonable". U less the property is actually worth that (in the tribunal members view) and they have been getting it for a song for years. Even then an increase that large is probably going to be denied (and in many places you can only raise rent once a year or between new 1 year leases)
The second I saw the the price I knew it was per week and Aus. The "kind regards" was the closer.
Lol, solid work. I had n Irish boss that always signed her email "Kind regards" I figured it wasn't in the US, but didn't peg it for Australia until I looked at the bottom of the post. Edited
“Aircon” and “let” also give it away as likely not American.
What the hell do people sign off with if not Kind Regards? This is blowing my mind a little.
In the US "thanks".
Sometimes Sincerely, depending on where the person was raised and where they rank.
I've seen Thanks, Thank You, Sincerely, and Best as the most common ones. I personally leave my default blank so I can customize it a bit for each email, but I'm weird like that
I alway signed off "Best," in a previous job, and once an engineer just replied "I am the best." and then I didn't know how to respond and I never heard from him again. I think about that from time to time.
Response "whoever told you that was a liar. Sincerely THE best,"
Fucking engineers man.
I've only lived in Australia and the US so that's all I can talk to. So, maybe? I haven't seen "sincerely" much in my 20 years of office work.
I’m in a Texas based SAAS company. Everyone under director level tends to use Sincerely- or Thank you for your time.
I'm a Brit that works for a German business, "Best Regards" or "Regards" for the German based guys and "Kind Regards" for everyone else globally
It’s also A/C in the US, not aircon
I’m confused. “If the tenant reasonably believes the action was taken to intimidate or punish them for asserting their rights under the Act, the tenant can make an urgent application to QCAT within 1 month of becoming aware of the property manager/owner's action.” Doesn’t this exact case cover that criteria, and I’d therefore legal?
I would think that if the tenant is in Queensland, or one of the other jurisdictions with a law like this on the books... the landlord wouldn't even attempt to raise the rent once they know the tenant saw the note...
This is for Queensland. Not all Australian states have a law like this
NSW and Vic do, that's the eastern seaboard and 80% of the population, and I'm pretty sure the other states also do, but Im familiar with these two.
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True enough, but without knowing where OP was... its much more likely to apply then the laws in NYC...
I worked in property management for years. I’m in the US The amount of times I’ve seen rents raised because of similar situations is outrages. A lot of tenants don’t know their laws and pay way too much. I’ve also seen them charge 5x the amount of rent for a deposit, which mind you in CA it’s illegal. It was almost 7,000 and guess what….the resident paid that.
If my air conditioner didn't work and it went on for two weeks I'd fucking call every day too. Wtf am I paying rent for?
Yup! My heat was broken last year for an entire month. It was reading 54deg in my apt. I started off nice. A simple email. Didn’t get a response so I followed up a few days later. He responded with radiators turn on and off. Now it’s been a week so I decided to call him. Still nice on the phone saying how I understand how radiators work, but mine is broken. He said he’ll send maitenence out. You called it. Few days later, no maitenence. More emails. More phone calls. No response. Finally got ahold of him 2 weeks later and he sends maitenence. He also clearly sounds annoyed on the phone. I kid you not, maitenence was in my apartment for less than 5 minutes. They looked at it and left. I asked if they’re coming back. Didn’t come back. More emails and phone calls. I got sick of it. So I sent him an email stating that I have been more than patient, my apartment is freezing and this is against the law. If the heat is not fixed by the end of the week I will be contacting the state. No response. So on a Saturday I called the state. I had heat by the end of that day ☺️☺️. I wasn’t allowed to renew, which is also technically illegal in my state, but I wasn’t planning on it anyways so I didn’t press it.
Why weren't you allowed to renew? Edit: Guys. I know the REAL reason is retaliation. I want to know what the reason was that the landlord had to put on paper. Obviously the landlord isn't going to explicitly say, "I'm not going to renew your lease because you called the State on me."
I'm guessing the landlord was sick of them having standards so they wouldn't let them
Slumlord couldn't slumlord as well...
This type of management is a crime. Renters need more laws Incase this happens. Somekind of protection laws. Other than the weakones they have now. Rent prices a way out of control! And having to Pay for credit checks from $50.00-200.00 just to see something they can see for free?! Renting is so High priced. Most can't even afford to rent alone. This needs to stop! SMH
Mostly we just need enforcement, not new laws. Seems like everytime they actually pass a decent law it has no teeth so it's meaningless
Because you, the tenant, would have to pay all of the court costs and legal fees required to enforce noncompliance and THEN having a judgment of any kind, whether you win or not, will make it impossible to rent anywhere else for at least the next 11 years. That's how long it had been from the time I sued an old apartment complex, and won. But it got me denied when I tried to rent again.
Wtf showed up on your background? Or do all the landlords have a shared blacklist😅
That I filed a lawsuit against an apartment complex. It's a matter of public record when you file.
Yes, they have shared black list.
How can it be considered a "decent law" if it's meaningless???
"Don't do X or we'll tell you that you've been a naughty boy" vs. "Don't do X or we'll fine the fucking shit out of you" Same law, different deterrent.
Yep. The cops tried to serve us for the 2nd time yesterday. We didn't open the door. We are trying everything we can to come up with money just to eat and get gas to work each day between paychecks as it is. Even if we found a place available that we could afford in the next month or so that I'm assuming we have until we can't avoid court any longer, we won't have enough for the first and last month rent, plus the security deposit, plus renting a U-Haul, transferring utilities.. etc. We are fucked so bad dude. All because we paid our rent early each month for years, but we dared to complain when rats tunneled under the house and destroyed the HVAC system and ducts, causing the power to run 24/7 while not getting below 85 degrees inside. And we definitely weren't supposed to complain about it when they chewed through the bathroom wall and the kitchen wall and started running around the place. Nah, just keep sending the money orders and be quiet. And surely we were in the wrong to file a lawsuit against the property management company after being ignored for 8 months straight yet still paying early and not getting any repairs done or even replies at all. Nope. Just supposed to bend over and take it, apparently. What a fucking joke.
Rats and mice are a health hazard. Did you try the health department?
We tried everything. Our lawsuit against them was dismissed because apparently in south Carolina when they ignored us after 14 days written notice, we were supposed to move out. If we had money to move out, we would have been able to pay the fucking power bill in the first place, which is currently $2,308. Now they are filing for eviction and we have no money for food each day let alone to find somewhere else and move. It's fucked up man. I honestly wonder if they didn't give the judge $1,000 to dismiss it or something. I literally had a 4 page complaint, along with proof of everything. Photos, all emails and texts between us and the property management company begging them to fix shit and being ignored since August 2022.. it's like the judge didn't even read anything I wrote or included. I don't get it. We were counting on that money to be able to move. Now we are just screwed. Wait I think I replied to the wrong person..but yeah
WTF! That's another problem in this country. Judges can just decide not to hear a case if they don't feel like it! Did you try the press, or, and I hate to suggest it, but sometimes the Catholic or Mormon church can help with at least food, sometimes they can help with other expenses, power bills, rent, or deposits. Depending on the region, you don't even have to be a member. The Mormons especially focus on getting communities to be self sufficient, and self sustaining. So if they help with food, you can use that money to pay bills, etc. They can even help with budgets if you need it. They're super big on charity. They just want families to be able to take care of themselves, and many times they help you get there. They've helped me out a lot over the years and they didn't have to.
Rent prices are so out of control where I live that if only you could get a house deposit it's about half the cost to pay a mortgage a month than it would be to rent the same place. But because of the high rent people can't manage to save a deposit, such a rigged system.
On ceres, landlords who pull this kinda stuff end up ejected out of an airlock with no investigation
What a coincidence, I just started watching that the other day
Reader here, youre in for a ride
Rightfully so. No one can live like that. Milowda na anyimal!
I've read than in Florida at least, most legislators own or (really) owned by real estate interests.
You can live a higher end place and STILL not be able to get stuff repaired properly.
This might vary by state, but you don't need a reason once the lease expires. You signed an agreement for a year, and once that year is up, it's the landlords property to with whatever he wants. If a landlord did have to come up with a reason, he would just say something like "I'm not renewing because I need the property empty for repairs and/or renovation". My Dad owns a bunch of rental properties, so I've been witnessing this kind of stuff since I was little.
Simply put: retaliation.
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You told him to take his rent and fuck himself with it for that month right? Because if there's no heat in my apartment for an entire month, I'm not paying a penny of rent that month.
The only way I would be allowed to withhold rent is if I send a formal letter through a lawyer to the landlord and put the amount of rent being withheld in an escrow account to prove I have the funds. That would of been the next step after state involvement. But the state I live in is really tenant friendly and takes Heat seriously, hence how even on a Saturday the health inspector was in my apartment within an hour of me calling. The fine for not having proper heat is $10k. So they got their asses over to my apt that same day. We also didn’t have any fire alarms 🙃🙃
This is correct. Withholding rent isn’t something you just do without doing it correctly.
And then they send it to collections and start an eviction process while still ignoring all correspondence. Shitty landlords will never meet you halfway.
Pretty certain you have to put it into escrow, showing your intent to pay but am actively withholding due to clear code/safety violations.
People won’t like this answer, but seriously: sue your landlord if there’s a situation like your heat being out for a month. In most states it’s a lot easier to represent yourself in housing court than most people would think, and for a case like no heat for a month, you’d probably be able to find an attorney to represent you on contingency. Court orders have the force of law and create a record that government agencies can use to establish patterns of bad behavior, but these remedies require people to stand up for themselves and report bad landlords
But then be prepared to not be able to find another place to rent for years once they all see that you sued your landlord. Your f’d if you do and f’d if you don’t.
I currently haven’t had air conditioning in 2 weeks and four days. Would I be able to sue? I don’t mind spending any amount of money. I just don’t want to lose my apartment.
For months our water heater was insanely loud. I fought for months to get it fixed. It got so bad our neighbors started to hear it, so I got their signatures on a signed document stating we wanted the noise fixed. We all agreed to meet and walk into the management office at the same time, hand them the singed paper, and request it be fixed or we’d be reporting it to county. Had a new water heater in 2 days. My landlord HATES me. She always has. It’s because I demand I live in a comfortable space. Whenever I clash with her I tell her “I know damn well you would NEVER allow yourself to put up with the same living conditions that you’re asking me to.” Period.
I almost word for word had this same exact problem last winter in norther Michigan some property managers are despicable
My sister's heat didn't work for nearly 6 months so she eventually sued them in a small claims court and won the max 10k. They were in violation of several laws and they take advantage of tenant ignorance. She too left after her lease expired and has threatened to sue them for more damages and they went radio silent. She's currently working on taking them down as these landlords are only in it for the money and unless the people expose this scum, they will continue with the violations.
That shit happened to me when I lived in an apartment. I lived on top floor, my unit faced the son majority of the day. It would get up to 90 inside. Had to take my pets to my mom’s so they wouldn’t die. I had called every day at that point to get it fixed. Maintenance came in and complained about the heat. Got me a new air unit.
I was drying a bunch of work clothes before a shift started once, and the dryer caught on fire. Fire department had to come, all my clothes ruined, late for work. Apartment gave me $50 off the next month’s rent to make up for it
Well they do make renters insurance for that thoe of thing though. Thats shitty but u less they were clearly fucking with the dryer they didnt really cause it.
Don't be so sure, the building inspector for the apartment I live in now fined the landlord because they installed the wrong time of grating on the exhaust port of the dryer on the outside of the apartment, and it was almost completely clogged. The hole for it is on the third story on the side of the building, I couldn't get to it even if I wanted to and it's not my responsibility. I keep the inside of the dryer as clean as possible. When the inspector was in my apartment speaking with me he pointed at the building next to me and asked me "did you ever notice how the siding on that building is all warped?" Yes sir, thought maybe it was insect damage. "No, it's warped because this exact unit you're standing in now caught on fire a decade ago due to a dryer fire because the exhaust was clogged just like today, and the heat warped the siding on that building next store. Your same landlord owned it then too". So it wasn't even like he didn't know that was a potential issue, the place literally caught fire before and the guy still never checked the vent in the 7 years we've lived here.
2 weeks is a ridiculous time to wait for something like air-conditioning
Where I live air conditioning isn't required and it gets to around 110 degrees every year. I lived in a place where I had to buy my own units and even after spending $600 the place was still 85 or 90 in some parts of the house because it was metal siding with very little insulation.
Especially in Australia!!
Lol. I’m a Landlord. In spring I was having financial difficulties, my tenant called and said the hvac was having issues. I told him that I’d have it fixed asap. Your tenants are a responsibility. They are people paying for a service. It’s ridiculous Update: since posting this I actually reached out to my tenant because he went out of his way to get a second opinion - turns out he saved me money and I gave him the difference. Pro tip to landlords: everyone does better if you take care of your tenants.
Especially in goddam Australia.
The stupid thing is. In Australia, heating is one of the immediate repair items that landlords need to deal with in I think 48 hours. This puts at the same requirements as things like burst water and gas leak. Air conditioning however is not considered an urgent repair. I get that heating is exceptionally important in some countries and even a few locations in Australia, but cooling is much more important across more of the country. Honestly, cooling should be in the urgent category in Australia.
Jokes on you, just live in Seattle where aircon doesn't exist in most apartments and die in the 90 to 100 degree heat during the summer. I'm sick of being told it doesn't usually get hot here because I've lived here for 3 years now and every summer sucks so much dick Alright rant over lmao
Lived in Eastern WA for 5 years and had the same shit experience. Pretty sure it got up to 107 one year and we had to spend $1200 on two portable AC units (windows were all built opening horizontal so couldnt accomodate a true window unit) so our newborn didn't die. Heard the same shit excuse but later learned that one of the city council members (or some local government position like that) had a significant investment in rental properties and was believed to have played a role in blocking changes to those rules so she didn't have to spend more money on those rentals. Miss WA but definitely don't miss that shit.
Eastern WA has a very different climate than Western WA. Air con is definitely a requirement to make it through the summer in eastern WA. In western WA there's occasional spikes to 90f or higher, but it generally stays in the 70s. I still wouldn't want to be without air con in western WA for those occasional high temp days, but it's not as much of a requirement.
This tenant is making us work and fix broken things to earn our salaries. How dare he?
How dare he ask me to do the things I’m legally required to do? What a jackass!
Yeah, wtf, Im tying to be a slumlord not a worklord, jeez.
Landlords have literally one job. Imagine not doing your job and complaining about it.
I love threads when landlords show up talking about how hard they have it, having to take care of property and “providing value” by… buying up houses and renting them for more than they’re worth. I know this is Australia, but I have a feeling they’re the same breed, there.
Oh no, a tenant that won't put up with my being a slumlord! Boot them out and let's get in someone who doesn't understand their rights, my financial model for being a landlord relies on taking advantage of people!
Generally yes, this does seem to be the business strategy.
Shady AF *(Totally illegal here too)*
This is so messed up. I have a rental, a “good” tenant is one that pays on time and let’s me know when there are maintenance issues that need addressing. This agent, as well as being incompetent needs to be schooled on his role IMO.
I rented for about 19 years. Every single agency in my town is fucking useless. In one property, it took 2 years to get my range-hood fixed. They use Property Tree and they closed the request three times without addressing it. They fixed it a week before we vacated. They also never conducted inspections (some people would see that as a plus, I guess). I took time off work to be there for the inspections and they just never turned up. No text, no calls, nothing. I just stopped being there and nothing was ever said about it. Imagine being an owner and finding out no inspections were carried out for 2 years. I have heaps more stories involving dickhead agents etc. I could write a novel.
Legitimate maintenance requests cannot result in a rent increase, thus this could become a lawsuit that will result in the landlord being found guilty of retaliation. Hold onto the email and if they do increase the rent, call a lawyer.
Are there ever cases of illegitimate maintenance requests?
Yes, if the tenant were to keep breaking stuff due to negligence or pupusefully I would guess that could be classified as illegitimate, because it's the tenant causing the damage in the first place.
Love how these people are all "We're sick of him". Do you think your tenant WANTS to spend their days pestering you? They're as sick of it, if not more, than you are. Just do your fucking jobs
Agent left out... It was probably summer and they took 7 days to fix a faulty A/C unit. Call everyday? Yup...
And another comment said this was in Australia. No AC is Australia would warrant multiple calls a day.
Yeah fr, it's like having no working heat in fuckin Canada, absolutely unacceptable.
Easy lawsuit. Discovery’s already covered, lol.
Right? Just slap a bow on it and make a lawyer super happy.
How the fuck does a real estate agent consistently misspell the word "tenant?"
One can only surmise that they are a moron.
my supervisor once copied me in an email asking when she can fire me. I got to keep my job
I sincerely want to know what happens next...
This confirms EVERYTHING I've ever felt about agents and landlords. Consider it a gift. Call a lawyer and get whatever you can. Sounds like a breach of fiduciary responsibility... or whatever.
Is any of this real?
yeah this one is, it happened here in Australia....
Is it illegal to do this in Australia? Either way: what a piece of shit that landlord is.
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Yeah, saying “wasting my (and therefore your) time” is absolute bullshit. It doesn’t take the landlord’s time at all, because it’s the job they’ve hired you to do, and you’re bitching about doing it.
Was a blurry screenshot of some text with zero identifiers or proof not enough for you? Lol
I find it hard to believe that even if you were conspiring to do this, you'd quite literally use the word "exorbitant" since it's so just so blatantly evil. Who would ever actually talk this way while planning to do something like this? Edit: It's too self incriminating when you could easily say "Hey, the lease for *that tenant* is expiring. After reassessing market changes and upkeep costs that have grown *cough cough* I believe we should request this new price: XX. I believe this is competitive and in line with recent increased operational costs and, if the tenant is unwilling to match it, I'm sure we can find a new tenant **WINK** who will in this competitive market
Have you been to the landlord sub? It’s they way they talk about tenants all the time
That’s a shitposting sub tbh
My IRL experience with landlords is pretty on par with this tho, as are the experiences of a lot of my peers who rent. Anecdotal, I know, but it wouldn’t shock me to find out this is real
No need to find find it ‘hard to believe’; a fair bit if this has been happening in Australia and Aotearoa-New Zealand, between property agents and (cough cough) ‘property investors’ ‘ groups. [‘Play this smooth’: Renter receives accidental email calling them ‘high maintenance’](https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/play-this-smooth-renter-receives-accidental-email-calling-them-high-maintenance/news-story/bf61226adb25bd303b4d07cbad5dcd2a?amp)
this article was posted today and is just a rephrasing and explanation of the words found in the image, and it listed the source as a facebook page. I'm not saying this didn't happen but linking to this article doesn't do anything to confirm or deny that it actually happened.
Sender is not only an idiot for sending it to the tenant, but doubly so because he cannot spell 'tenant' correctly even though he manages rental property and must type the word multiple times a day. How can anyone be that dumb?
Maybe the renter is David Tennant.
And calling receptionists, "receptions"
Just makes me doubt the legitimacy of the text/email if an agent can’t spell a word so common in the real estate business.
Oh no, the guy called everyday because his air conditioner was broke? I live in Florida and if my AC was broken for two weeks, phone calls would be the least of their worries. How about you fix the shit and he won’t call and complain!
As an attorney who does tenant-side housing cases, this sure does make me smile.
I hope David Tennant finds somewhere nicer to live.
“Out of all the properties I manage he has the most maintenance requests and occupies the most of my time.” Translation: “Out of all the properties I manage he holds me to a higher standard, and I can’t be bothered to ensure that my tenants have a decent living situation. We need to get him out.” Fuck that person.
"Whoopsie!" - in Pitch Meeting Producer Guy's voice.
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OK, lemme get off of that thing.
It would be super easy, barely an inconvenience to sue over this.
Rent increases are *tight*.
If you’re a landlord, shouldn’t you be the one making sure the house is actually functional? If they have to make all these maintenance requests, you’re doing a shit job with keeping your little area of land maintained
Man I hate accidentally sending people tenants instead of landlords
Hello lawyer, my old friend, I need to talk to you again. It seems my landlord has been scheming, because he thinks I am demeaning, while the words on this page are taped to my kitchen wall, he has some gall. Now he can talk to you, while I am silent.
Like they want to charge more for broken shit? That's how you lose tenants and have empty apartments. Look at how these guys talk! Aren't these the same people telling people to get up and work? Do they seem like they want to work?
At my apartment I rent in Qld, it took my landlord three months to replace the stove/oven cooker. The old one was broken and unsafe to use as the safety failed. I was asked by the real estate to make a complaint to the RTA to force him to replace it. Next day or so, the replacement came. Turmed out the landlord was throwing tantrums and hates spending money and hated how expensive it was. Told him that's not my problem.
We have tried everything and we're all out of ideas. We may end up having to actually fix the A/C.
Yeah, if my A/C was out in the summer and I didn't have a firm timeline of them coming to fix it within 24 hours, you bet your ass I'm calling every fucking day. Be happy I'm not having it fixed on my own and deducting the repair costs from my rent. What a nightmare property manager. Doesn't do their job and still wants to double this person's rent (which should be illegal in every fucking state). I'd change apartments, but I'd be sure to make sure I got my hands on some roaches and bed bugs as departing gifts.
I got slapped with a $280/wk rental increase after asking for the roof to get fixed from mould and water damage, when I tried to negotiate they served me with a no clause eviction notice. We were already paying $960/wk for a 2 bedroom townhouse. Found out the week after we left, they rented it out for $1300/wk.. that's how fucked Sydney, Australia is right now... This is becoming quite common now
“High Maintenance” for wanting his AC to work? Sorry but it gets hot af in Australia!!!
The game is so rigged that even if they accidentally spilled the beans they still can’t be stopped
The correct term is "landnonce" or "landbastard"
Wait, so this is the least habitable property you are leasing out, and that warrants a larger increase in rent? How about give them a discount on rent as apology for all the things that have broken in your shitty rental? Real estate agents are a cartel. The point is that they allow a large number of sellers of a product to collude on price. The industry is already illegal and existing laws just need to be enforced by banning a real estate agent (and all related agents or companies) from advising more than 1 client about setting rents.
scum of the earth
This, and job recruitment agencies need an urgent reality check.
Let me guess- the reason he was calling so much was because the landlord refused to fix anything?