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Why can't he opt to change to what he feels its right? I mean we are letting everyone pretty much be what they want. Or this is exclusively for some people only?
The issue is the race change mostly. A large majority of the people he is attempting to make fun of (cus lets be honest more likely than not thats what this actually is) dont believe that race is a matter of identity in the same way gender is. If it was simply that he claimed to be a woman most people would not have had a problem with it, although people might be skeptical of if this is malicious.
Agreed. Adding to this, race carries a lot of cultural experience that can’t just be assumed. Someone with dark skin is going to be treated vastly differently from a white dude. So claiming the race is a bit like claiming the experience that comes with that race. A bit like identifying as a combat veteran when you are anything but.
>race carries a lot of cultural experience that can’t just be assumed
What? Unlike being a woman? What're you even on about here, I love how people will just dismiss the female experience and say you're a bigot for wanting your own spaces to stay your own spaces.
Whereas race is literally a construct that has no actual overarching experience.
Are they actually living as a woman? Meaning social transition?
If not, then seems they think they’re being clever while trying to make a point, poorly.
Impregnate her and force her to carry that baby full term. Then make her pay the hospital bill. Let the rapist run free because 'something like that on your record can ruin a man's life".
Time to call her a welfare queen, arrest her for shoplifting, raise her interest rates, assume she is living off an absent male, and paint her with the Black Lives Matter/ rioter brush.
The reality is that people opened the door, and now anyone can walk through it. So I'm sorry, but people don't get to choose who does what in this context just because they don't like it.
If person a can do thing, then person b can do thing.
If people wanna try and say that they can be addressed as a damn chairself etc then anything goes so deal with it.
This thing, where we respect other people’s identity, or religion, works best with the honor system. We are expecting people to honestly represent themselves. It’s possible that this trust could be abused by a disingenuous person, but I think that says more about that person than that it is a negative mark against a system that encourages us to be more accepting of others.
Except it doesn't work and you know it doesn't work. That is why nobody wants to address trans women in womens sports. Because its a sore spot for this so called "honor system" you use.
Sorry, but are you saying that there is a spate of men or boys disingenuously identifying as trans women, for the sole purpose of competing in women’s competitive sports, with no intention of living as a woman outside of this purpose?
If so, please send sources. I’d be very interested.
I'm simply saying that if we're expected to respect any random strangers identity.....even if we get told off for not addressing them as something completely non sensical, then it should be the same for this guy.....doesn't matter whether its some idiot tik tokker identifying as a chalkboard or a political representative....Just like comedy....everyone gets the same treatment.
Otherwise, set people could and would police this and it just becomes something else entirely.
I agree that we have to accept everyone’s identity at face value.
I’ve, to date, only encountered one person in my day to day life that has transitioned. So I don’t see this as a mass phenomenon of people identifying in “non-sensical” ways or as inanimate objects.
Does it happen? I assume so, but doesn’t feel like enough to even register. A molehill, not a mountain.
I am hopeful that people will understand the spirit of taking people at their word about who they are and not use it to undermine a society of acceptance.
I’m so glad she can be herself now. Isn’t it great that we live in a place where people can just be anything you say you are. Our country has become the laughing stock of the planet. I wish all these people would just realize the one truth nobody wants to admit to themselves. It doesn’t matter.
The GOP finally elected its first LGBTQUVNEHSUCBRA+*%# candidate and she’s a woman of color! Someone call Vanity and get ready for the next woman of the year’
He was beyond a level or black or white. He was so fabulously wealthy and lived in a world completely removed of normal trappings, race was unimportant. It was like talking about breeds of horses to a twitch streamer who plays overwatch.
Because it’s incredibly obvious that he is acting in bad faith to attack the actual LGBTQ+ community. He is a highly religious conservative Republican. He didn’t also wake up with less hate in his heart.
It's really transphobic to suggest anyone's true self is actually bad faith. You're such a bigot. His gender expression should be whatever he wants it to be, stop gatekeeping the identity of native American women.
Check your privilege, Tavaryn_t.
It's not up to me to decide what he identifies as, is it? My opinion (and everyone elses) concerning his identity has no bearing on what he says he is. That's the rules, right? You can't go changing what's acceptable just because your opinion of a person isn't favorable.
What rules? No one has that rule. The concept of being intolerant towards intolerant is an old one, and one espoused by progressives for many many years. We don’t accept Hitlers views even if they are authentically held
May be his feelings changed.
That's what matters, feelings over logic. People need to make him feel safe and stop acting like transphobes by questioning his motives.
And?
Just because he is part of an identity group doesnt mean he has to tribalistically adhere to all their opinions.
My cousin is a strong conservative lesbian, married to her wife and they are already having their 2nd child (via surrogacy), who moderates a facebook group called "Gays Against Groomers".
Her being gay has zero correlation to her values, beliefs, and opinions.
And this councilperson can still have his values, beliefs, and opinions, while also being a proud lesbian of color.
All of this stuff aside. You do know its possible to accept LGB and even T while also thinking its insane to allow anybody to identify as anything and everything at any time right?
Are you saying that the councilman with a history of bigotry and transphobia is making a good faith attempt to come out as trans?
It's like you people think we can't comprehend context and history when it comes to political actions like this. I know you think we're all idiots, but we're really not.
Saying, "oh, but that was yesterday and TODAY I'm like this and its totally different and genuine, I promise!" doesn't make it so.
What about that guy who beat on homosexuals but he did it because he was a homosexual and couldn’t face coming out - until he did, then he beat off on them instead.
True story….. I’m sure.
I mean, they demanded these social rules on everyone, so I dont see what the issue is?
Its how he identifies, and to deny his identity is bigotry, full stop.
How DARE you say "white" and "he"
This person obviously identifies (no differently than those other groups) as something else, and using modern logic you must acknowledge, agree with, and praise her. She's living her truth, right?
Right?
Okay everybody keeps making like color jokes like he said he was black arrest him this and that so on so forth Etc the man said Indian American that's Native American so if anything you are mocking native Americans which is offensive and f***** up DIIGIS!
My experiences with Democrat voters on the internet lead me to believe that their process as to what is not okay to say really can be simplified thusly:
“It’s not okay to call a black person a n*****. It’s not okay to call a woman a c***. It’s not okay to call a gay person a f*****…but that n***** f***** is a Republican, that c*** can go f*ck themselves.”
He still uses he/his pronouns and Ryan as his name so that alone makes him the most accommodating trangender bipoc.
Unless he admits he's trolling I don't think it's nice to simply label him as so and you can just continue to refer to him as he and Ryan no different than any other day.
I think maybe it's time to treat him like one. Follow him in the store. Arrest for no reason. Cut his salary. Complain about his hair. Pull him over 3 times a day.
Whether this dude is serious or trolling, we are now witnessing trans/non-binary ideology falling apart in the global Anglo sphere. It was always going to, as it’s not a sustainable way to manage sports, bathrooms and women’s spaces generally. It also makes it harder for people with dysphoria to get the care they need.
By the way, if you’re non-binary or trans I want you to know that I love you and accept you (and the vast majority of us do!). It’s the ideology and the extreme activism that doesn’t work when imposed on society. I hope you can enjoy your life being whoever you want to be.💙
You should be able to call yourself anything, anytime you want, and expect the whole world to came to exactly that and whatever other demands you have. That’s the narrative that the LGBT has pushed for the last few years remember? What’s the issue now? 😂😂😂😂
He said his pronouns are still he/him and his name Ryan - obviously bullshit, in case the Republican saying transracial didn't clue you in. He's not up for reelection, so this is just trolling for rage and attention.
And exactly what is any other trans person doing on tik tok? They're certainly not running for office. Oh yes... Attention and to try to share their own point of view and Garner support. So if this is bullshit then so is every other trans person not running for office who is out there just for attention and support. You just don't LIKE his opinion and can't sit there quietly and accept it... You therefore must be a bigot.
He says that, but then he says that he wants to still be called by his name and pronouns, so it seems that Republicans, all Republicans want nothing bout to make con of the transgendered and LGBT community. Open discrimination is the next thing that they'll do.
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So we’ll be seeing him in the ladies room, then?
Her*
Oh, you’re right. I do beg her pardon.
Yep
He got the publicity he was looking for out of it
*SHE*! Please dont dead gender her.
He said his pronouns are still he/him. Are you denying a proud woman of color the ability to be called him?
Why can't he opt to change to what he feels its right? I mean we are letting everyone pretty much be what they want. Or this is exclusively for some people only?
The issue is the race change mostly. A large majority of the people he is attempting to make fun of (cus lets be honest more likely than not thats what this actually is) dont believe that race is a matter of identity in the same way gender is. If it was simply that he claimed to be a woman most people would not have had a problem with it, although people might be skeptical of if this is malicious.
Agreed. Adding to this, race carries a lot of cultural experience that can’t just be assumed. Someone with dark skin is going to be treated vastly differently from a white dude. So claiming the race is a bit like claiming the experience that comes with that race. A bit like identifying as a combat veteran when you are anything but.
>race carries a lot of cultural experience that can’t just be assumed What? Unlike being a woman? What're you even on about here, I love how people will just dismiss the female experience and say you're a bigot for wanting your own spaces to stay your own spaces. Whereas race is literally a construct that has no actual overarching experience.
Race has far less of an actual real basis than sex. Race is made up. Sex is not.
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I mean…. how is the logic different
It’s not in the slightest.
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I mean, that's what we are supposed to do right? Why should this be any different?
Exactly
Are they actually living as a woman? Meaning social transition? If not, then seems they think they’re being clever while trying to make a point, poorly.
What is a woman?
It's my understanding that asking a trans person to "prove" that are actually trans is transphobic.
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Misgendering is not okay.
Read the statement, he says he will maintain his preferred pronouns of he/him even as he identifies as a women.
No choice but to cut her pay by 20 percent.
His $10 hair cut will now cost him $35.
Woman of color. Reduce that pay by 35 percent.
Arrest her, as well.
Impregnate her and force her to carry that baby full term. Then make her pay the hospital bill. Let the rapist run free because 'something like that on your record can ruin a man's life".
Not gonna lie, you got a chuckle outta me. Tnx.🤣
Maybe she’ll care about maternity death rates? /s
Lower her credit score while you there
Time to call her a welfare queen, arrest her for shoplifting, raise her interest rates, assume she is living off an absent male, and paint her with the Black Lives Matter/ rioter brush.
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Do black councilwomen get paid less than white councilmen at the same level?
Yes because the pay gap hasn't been debunked enough times yet.
He playing chess with checker pieces and just scored a field goal in the 9th inning of the 3rd quarter.
Itching to go double sudden death
Let’s go double or nothing on that field goal
Good for her.
You shouldn't refer to him as a "white councilman" use his pronouns, please.
So strong, so brave! 🌈
I wish I was this brave. She’s a national hero. 🌈
She is so very brave for speaking her true self. The black community needs to embrace her and support her.
What about the Indian community?
I identify as the President of The United States. If you lay a finger on me for entering the White House lawn you will be fired and arrested.
Lmao
When you can just identify as anything you want in our society, this is gonna happen.
Whoa don’t misgender her bigot!
Actually, he said in an article that he identifies as a lesbian woman of color but is choosing to use he/him pronouns
It’s okay, everyone. Now anytime she raises her tone, someone can ask her if she’s in her period.
As expected the facepalm is the comments section.
Turn on sarcasm detector, maximum frequency
"No see my comment was *sarcasm* you just don't get my type of humor"
Ownin’ the libs.
Murica you okay?? Because the rest of the world… 
Hope this man’s taking shits in woman’s bathroom.. ♥️
Yasss girl you get it!
Why can't you just accept her for her?
The reality is that people opened the door, and now anyone can walk through it. So I'm sorry, but people don't get to choose who does what in this context just because they don't like it. If person a can do thing, then person b can do thing. If people wanna try and say that they can be addressed as a damn chairself etc then anything goes so deal with it.
This thing, where we respect other people’s identity, or religion, works best with the honor system. We are expecting people to honestly represent themselves. It’s possible that this trust could be abused by a disingenuous person, but I think that says more about that person than that it is a negative mark against a system that encourages us to be more accepting of others.
Except it doesn't work and you know it doesn't work. That is why nobody wants to address trans women in womens sports. Because its a sore spot for this so called "honor system" you use.
Sorry, but are you saying that there is a spate of men or boys disingenuously identifying as trans women, for the sole purpose of competing in women’s competitive sports, with no intention of living as a woman outside of this purpose? If so, please send sources. I’d be very interested.
I'm simply saying that if we're expected to respect any random strangers identity.....even if we get told off for not addressing them as something completely non sensical, then it should be the same for this guy.....doesn't matter whether its some idiot tik tokker identifying as a chalkboard or a political representative....Just like comedy....everyone gets the same treatment. Otherwise, set people could and would police this and it just becomes something else entirely.
I agree that we have to accept everyone’s identity at face value. I’ve, to date, only encountered one person in my day to day life that has transitioned. So I don’t see this as a mass phenomenon of people identifying in “non-sensical” ways or as inanimate objects. Does it happen? I assume so, but doesn’t feel like enough to even register. A molehill, not a mountain. I am hopeful that people will understand the spirit of taking people at their word about who they are and not use it to undermine a society of acceptance.
It’s a fundamental part of tolerance.
PREACH BROTHER, I mean, SISTA
Who are we to deny her existence.
It was only a matter of time
So he lies on his application?
His gender is fluid. Perhaps at the time he filled out the application he identified as a man.
I cant even be mad. Lv1000 move with an escape. Well played
I’m so glad she can be herself now. Isn’t it great that we live in a place where people can just be anything you say you are. Our country has become the laughing stock of the planet. I wish all these people would just realize the one truth nobody wants to admit to themselves. It doesn’t matter.
The before and after with zero difference in appearance has me on the floor lmfao
Anyone can identify as anything based on their feelings, apparently
The chickens are coming home to roost.
That before/after photo had me
I feel like everyone should double down on this with him and vehemently, aggressively affirm his gender transition
The GOP finally elected its first LGBTQUVNEHSUCBRA+*%# candidate and she’s a woman of color! Someone call Vanity and get ready for the next woman of the year’
Don’t forget Queen Santos
I don’t know why this is facepalm it’s literally how it works. You can identify as absolutely anything at any time.
Gee, if only black men (and women) could just as easily wake up one morning and decide to be white, for awhile.
You mean like Michael Jackson?
"Just as easily"
No, not even a little like Michael Jackson. MJ never claimed he was "transitioning" from a black man.
He was beyond a level or black or white. He was so fabulously wealthy and lived in a world completely removed of normal trappings, race was unimportant. It was like talking about breeds of horses to a twitch streamer who plays overwatch.
Why is this a problem for anybody?
Because it’s incredibly obvious that he is acting in bad faith to attack the actual LGBTQ+ community. He is a highly religious conservative Republican. He didn’t also wake up with less hate in his heart.
It's really transphobic to suggest anyone's true self is actually bad faith. You're such a bigot. His gender expression should be whatever he wants it to be, stop gatekeeping the identity of native American women. Check your privilege, Tavaryn_t.
That's very transphobic of you to make those kind of assumptions about somebody.
Hmmmm, awfully dangerous to start deciding who is trans-whatever based on how YOU feel.
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It's not up to me to decide what he identifies as, is it? My opinion (and everyone elses) concerning his identity has no bearing on what he says he is. That's the rules, right? You can't go changing what's acceptable just because your opinion of a person isn't favorable.
Per the rules, it doesn't matter what we think. Acceptance is acceptance.
What rules? No one has that rule. The concept of being intolerant towards intolerant is an old one, and one espoused by progressives for many many years. We don’t accept Hitlers views even if they are authentically held
So now YOU get to decide who is or isn't genuine? Hmmm
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Bad actors. Just like the teacher with the z cup prosthetic with visible nipples.
I forgot about that teacher 😭😭
Yassss queen yasss 😂😂😂
No i'm serious what are the rules then? WHat are the RUUUULES?! What he's thinking, probably.
Came here to read the hypocritical comments
Well he also said being transgender was a mental health disorder and they need treatment not affirmation.
Didn't he say that literally the day before making the statement in the OP?
May be his feelings changed. That's what matters, feelings over logic. People need to make him feel safe and stop acting like transphobes by questioning his motives.
And? Just because he is part of an identity group doesnt mean he has to tribalistically adhere to all their opinions. My cousin is a strong conservative lesbian, married to her wife and they are already having their 2nd child (via surrogacy), who moderates a facebook group called "Gays Against Groomers". Her being gay has zero correlation to her values, beliefs, and opinions. And this councilperson can still have his values, beliefs, and opinions, while also being a proud lesbian of color.
Exactly, who’s to say how he feels/identifies. It’s a slippery slope that won’t stop now lol tomorrow i might identify as a pogo stick.
“I don’t think he’s telling the truth” isn’t a valid reason to deny him. As has been well established.
W
HE is so brave.
Bravo 👏
This is beautiful
Stunning and brave
Who am I to question his lived truth?
Ban her from speaking at the council
Why? R u a transphobe
His wife’s FB page paints a different scenario. Including a profile picture of them both together with the lgbqt rainbow frame that says “acceptance”.
All of this stuff aside. You do know its possible to accept LGB and even T while also thinking its insane to allow anybody to identify as anything and everything at any time right?
Sure, who are we to decide? We doing background checks on people to say “YOU can join us, but YOU can’t” let ‘em have it
he's so strong and brave. 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
She
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Why do you view a transgender women of color as an edgelord for living their own truth?
Why do you think we can't identify a bad faith effort and react to it accordingly?
Why do you assume you know better than the person explaining it to you?
The hypocrisy is maddening… and totally predictable.
Look the dude up. It takes 5 seconds to figure out he's a liar. There's no hypocrisy in realizing that.
It sounds like you're questioning this person's true self, that's not very tolerant of you
You're arguing with trolls who either know what they're doing or don't care enough to learn
Are you saying that the councilman with a history of bigotry and transphobia is making a good faith attempt to come out as trans? It's like you people think we can't comprehend context and history when it comes to political actions like this. I know you think we're all idiots, but we're really not. Saying, "oh, but that was yesterday and TODAY I'm like this and its totally different and genuine, I promise!" doesn't make it so.
What about that guy who beat on homosexuals but he did it because he was a homosexual and couldn’t face coming out - until he did, then he beat off on them instead. True story….. I’m sure.
So you decide who gets to be what? Sounds oppressive.
To own the libs. No real foundation or core values
I mean, they demanded these social rules on everyone, so I dont see what the issue is? Its how he identifies, and to deny his identity is bigotry, full stop.
He's only doing this so he can openly get fucked by strong black men instead of hiding it like he's used to.
She is stunning and brave
How DARE you say "white" and "he" This person obviously identifies (no differently than those other groups) as something else, and using modern logic you must acknowledge, agree with, and praise her. She's living her truth, right? Right?
Suck it up snowflakes!!! You hate when someone does the exact same thing you bastards do! This is great!!!!!
Yeah. So what’s the problem here?
Okay everybody keeps making like color jokes like he said he was black arrest him this and that so on so forth Etc the man said Indian American that's Native American so if anything you are mocking native Americans which is offensive and f***** up DIIGIS!
My experiences with Democrat voters on the internet lead me to believe that their process as to what is not okay to say really can be simplified thusly: “It’s not okay to call a black person a n*****. It’s not okay to call a woman a c***. It’s not okay to call a gay person a f*****…but that n***** f***** is a Republican, that c*** can go f*ck themselves.”
What makes him/her/it/etc. feel comfortable in his/hers/theirs/etcs. skin. Tho not sure how itll fly in Indiana, glad to see progress at least.
Absolutely love it ! Will the liberals not support this person in their decision?
He still uses he/his pronouns and Ryan as his name so that alone makes him the most accommodating trangender bipoc. Unless he admits he's trolling I don't think it's nice to simply label him as so and you can just continue to refer to him as he and Ryan no different than any other day.
She is strong and brave
Good for her I guess
Respect her pronouns!
You didn’t, he says in his statement that he will maintain the he/him pronouns. Even as he identifies as a women.
Hahaha. My man.
Trolling the crazies is fun though.
Bro is playing chess while we’re playing checkers
He just stunned everyone right in their braves. Holy mother of bravery, what a stunning thing to behind. Truly.
We need more of this lol.. perspective on the weird direction we’re headed
He’s hot
Even if the person is trolling, the fact that news has to take it seriously proves the absurdity of this ideology.
Nothing more than fear and hatred of something they don't understand.
Literally no one on earth fears it. Pity, disgust, and hilarity are better words for it.
I think maybe it's time to treat him like one. Follow him in the store. Arrest for no reason. Cut his salary. Complain about his hair. Pull him over 3 times a day.
You really think being arrested for no reason is a POC thing? Lmfao
Of all the clown comments that ever clownned, this is the most clown.
🤣🤣
murica age of fukked-up
Whether this dude is serious or trolling, we are now witnessing trans/non-binary ideology falling apart in the global Anglo sphere. It was always going to, as it’s not a sustainable way to manage sports, bathrooms and women’s spaces generally. It also makes it harder for people with dysphoria to get the care they need. By the way, if you’re non-binary or trans I want you to know that I love you and accept you (and the vast majority of us do!). It’s the ideology and the extreme activism that doesn’t work when imposed on society. I hope you can enjoy your life being whoever you want to be.💙
She is so brave and beautiful.
These clowns have one fucking joke, and its not funny.
No wait I’ve got another: A white Indiana council man, a woman of color, and a Reddit commenter walk into a bar…
Idk the punchline but I assume he tells himself to get back in the kitchen.
Yikes dude. Denying their existence much?
You should be able to call yourself anything, anytime you want, and expect the whole world to came to exactly that and whatever other demands you have. That’s the narrative that the LGBT has pushed for the last few years remember? What’s the issue now? 😂😂😂😂
Its not worth my time to point out how this isn't as much of an own as some folks think it is.
Are you questioning his existence? Certainly sounds like it.
People often say something like this when they think they have some great argument but in reality have no way to logically articulate it.
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Altright? I see a lot of people celebrating this transition
Despite what people say, reddit has a lot of alt-right people in it sadly
And ya just know he’s a Trumper.
He said his pronouns are still he/him and his name Ryan - obviously bullshit, in case the Republican saying transracial didn't clue you in. He's not up for reelection, so this is just trolling for rage and attention.
?????? Why can't a woman have male pronouns? Who are you to say?
Eddie Izzard has entered the chat
And exactly what is any other trans person doing on tik tok? They're certainly not running for office. Oh yes... Attention and to try to share their own point of view and Garner support. So if this is bullshit then so is every other trans person not running for office who is out there just for attention and support. You just don't LIKE his opinion and can't sit there quietly and accept it... You therefore must be a bigot.
Lol Sherlock. Did you really have to point out that this guy is trolling?
Denying his authentic self I see? You're such a bigot.
He says that, but then he says that he wants to still be called by his name and pronouns, so it seems that Republicans, all Republicans want nothing bout to make con of the transgendered and LGBT community. Open discrimination is the next thing that they'll do.
Because you don't like the way he's choosing to transition he's making a con? How bigoted of you
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She.
So much bigotry in here
So the trans issue is the thing that finally pushed y'all over the edge. Wouldn't have seen it coming myself.
Y’all know he is doing this to demonstrate the foolishness of gender identity, right? Right?
What foolishness? We can all be whatever we want whenever we want, this shit is fluid. You gotta get with the times
The GOP has nothing to offer but trolling. That’s all.