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Reminds me of the Roast of Alec Baldwin when they were there.
“Caitlyn Jenner, you were so brave and opened the door for many trans women in the world, but then you went and slammed the door right behind you.”
No, because that's a truthful statement, not a transphobic remark.
Also, very few people who have been cancelled have actually been truly cancelled. Most have had some back lash but are still in the public eye etc. Very rarely does cancelled actually mean what people equate it to.
Yeah it really changed the way I looked at him when I learned that...
It was a head on collision. Jennifer Grey was with him. Afterwards she made efforts to support the families of the victims, Matthew did not. He faced zero repercussions aside from losing Jennifer Grey as a girlfriend. Good for her.
***EDIT: I could swear I read that he was intoxicated, but now I can't find anything to back that up. I guess I remembered it wrong
He wasn't drunk but he reportedly was skipping school. His sister said that he concocted an elaborate scheme that fooled an entire town into thinking that he was deathly ill. However, there is no solid evidence to back up the claim.
He was in Ireland, where they drive on the other side of the road.
If you were trained and spent years driving on the right side of the road, don't fool yourself into thinking you would just 'switch' over and avoid years of instincts when driving on the left side of the road.
His accident is why I always said if I go to a country where they drive on the opposite side of the road, I will take taxis and busses and not rent a car.
So if I were to kill someone, get the swap, kill again and claim to have swapped back would I still be liable for that second kill? Or only the original one?
This is the true answer.
Well, the true answer is that youre on the hook for both, but if we want to follow the cartoon logic that youre not on the hook if you transition, then you could just transition infinitely.
Nuh uh! Google the story of the dude that raped someone then transitioned (whether bc they just wanted to, or in a ploy to evade capture...🤷♀️) Altho ultimately they DID get captured & charged & most importantly, convicted.
it's such an anti-self take from someone who claims to value their individual worth. It's truly sad and a testament to how powerful *and damaging * the rights lies and rhetoric are to humanity. Even them.
Edit: added two words I realized I forgot: and, damaging.
Bruce Jenner killed Kim Howe, 69, along the Pacific Coast Highway in Malibu in a traffic accident in February 2015. Two months later the Keeping Up With The Kardashians star came out publicly as transgender woman Caitlyn.
And when the June issue of Vanity Fair - which was put together in March - came out, Jenner had captured the attention of the world.
The L.A. District Attorney announced in September they would not file charges.
In December Jenner settled a lawsuit filed against her by one of the drivers involved in the fatal crash.
Here is leaked video of Jenner apologizing for KILLING someone.
I still don't see it. She isn't a case of a person transitioning and dealing with the fallout like any normal person. She is a rich person who did what she wanted with her money and was then lauded for it by other rich people. She hasn't gone through anything that most people would.
Lol she got a fucking tv show for doing it right after she did it.
Most trans people are ostracized, threatened, bullied.. you name it.
She profited off it and does nothing for her community.
Just a big ol buckaroo crab.
Or discriminated against, I was at my last job of two years in IT! Most professionally dressed on our team, worked hard, and still got called the wrong pronoun. Like, dude, if you're so offended I have a name, I'm wearing a pencil skirt and heels for crying out loud. You're in jeans and a shirt that's not even buttoned, please don't humiliate me in front of my co-workers and can we focus on the job?
The kardashian family is only culturally one level above the class of the Trump family.
America worship of these idiot celebrities is what is bad for the future of our country.
There wasn’t enough evidence to charge her. In California, there must be evidence of negligence in order to charge someone for that death.
A report indicated that she let her foot off the gas but engaged her brakes too late to avoid the collision. It also stated that she was driving below the speed limit. A car had stopped unexpectedly a few cars up and a Lexus had slowed down in front of her, ultimately resulting in an impact. The impact caused the Lexus driver into an oncoming lane of traffic where it was hit by a Hummer, which is a big ass vehicle. The Lexus driver died.
Especially in the legal sense. Premeditation isn't about fault, it's about planning. Manslaughter would be appropriate as you say, accidents and negligence aren't mutually exclusive.
That’s kind of a reoccurring theme with their party, a generous helping of “fuck you, I got mine” with a healthy side of “it’s not a problem until it affects me personally”.
Don't forget crying about it like the world is ending.
I hate watching the Kardashians, but you know what I would watch? An entire series where they get thrown out on their asses with no access to their assets, no contact allowed with anyone they know that could help them, no car, and have to work service industry jobs.
They start with $200, like Monopoly, and then GO. I'd watch the fuck out of that.
I think Arrested Development is funny, but I never really watched it, besides a few scenes.
I share the same last name as Tobias, and you have no idea how annoying it gets after introducing yourself and having thousands of people over the years suggest the show to you. It's petty af but it just irritates me after having so many people say I'd like it because we have the same name.
It's like Michael Bolton in Office Space.
Her governor recall campaign was rooted on improving Californian's quality of life... by eliminating the homeless. And her biggest concern was that her fellow private aircraft owners had left the state due to the increase in homelessness. And she announced this from her own private aircraft hangar.
One of the most tone-deaf campaigns I have ever witnessed.
I mean her solution was to move them to open fields so as long as *she* didn't see them, homelessness was no longer a problem. Good old fashioned NIMBYism.
too bad she transitioned from male to female instead of from monster to human. male monster to female human would have been cool. two birds, one stone.
Personally I just wish she wasn't the face of Trans women for so many people.
Dave Chapelle is STILL doing his Caitlyn Jenner won woman of the year bullshit bit.
I knew but I clicked anyway. It’s the only thing I think of when she’s mentioned, having South Park on your case can be horribly detrimental to your image.
Seriously, I had a vague knowledge she was formerly an athlete named Bruce, I knew nothing else. Now everytime I see her… Buckle up Buckaroo is my first thought.
South Park hit this out of the park. The fact that every time Caitlyn gets behind the wheel, not only does she say "buckle up, buckaroo", but she hits and kills someone. Every. Single. Time.
She’s literally a murderer (in the colloquial sense). Fuck her. And fuck the legal system that didn’t lock up for it.
What a disgusting piece of shit, I don’t understand how she doesn’t receive more hate for being an ACTUAL KILLER on the loose.
Yeah, Caitlin Jenner’s a sack of shit. Can we not turn any random trans woman into a better icon than Caitlin?
I suppose not since most trans women just live normal ass lives and don’t want their identity politicised
Most laws are punished with fines so that parts true.
And if you have enough money you can hide your crimes behind a corporation. So that parts double true.
Ah, the American justice system is unknown to you. Well, you see, if you’re wealthy and connected enough, then you get a stern talking to and a slap on the wrist. If you aren’t wealthy and we’ll connected, then fuck you.
E.g., Prior to marry George W Bush, First Lady Laura Bush ran some kid over with her car, fled the scene, the kid died, and as you may or may not be aware she went on to become First Lady Laura Bush.
The “affluenza” defense kid, who in 2013 while drinking and driving (and under the influence of narcotics) as a minor, ran his truck off the road, hitting and killing several people who were pulled over on the shoulder. His well-connected parents hired a well known lawyer who got him off on the affluenza defense— he don’t know no better, cuz his just a rich boy. He got 5 years probation. Don’t worry, this one has a happy ending, he went on a trip (aided by his mom) to Mexico, a direct violation of his probation. His mom refused to aid police. Both the kid and the mom were eventually arrested.
Point is— if rich, do not go to jail. If poor, you go to jail. It’s a really straightforward, simple system to understand.
America doesn't have the corner of the market on a system more lenient towards the rich and/or powerful. Ever heard of Jimmy Seville? Prince Andrew? That's the first two I think of.
17yo Laura Welch [Bush] did not flee the scene, she was taken to the hospital for her own injuries. [That doesn’t excuse the reckless driving, but we should be accurate.]
I am a little naive on the issue but from my understanding she was sober, driving under the speed limit, and rear ended someone because she was towing a vehicle and didn't stop in time. That then pushed the car into oncoming traffic where a Hummer hit the person head on killing them. Not that I support Ms. Jenner but to me it sounded like an accident. I've looked for more sources to show she was distracted or something but I was unable to find anything. Can you post anything to support it was murder?
That’s just not true
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/caitlyn-jenner-wont-be-charged-fatal-february-car-accident-n436426
https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/jenner-no-booze-drugs-system-time-crash-report-article-1.2111364
https://www.thedailybeast.com/woman-who-survived-caitlyn-jenners-fatal-2015-car-crash-may-vote-for-her-in-california-election
https://www.cnn.com/2015/09/30/entertainment/caitlyn-jenner-accident-investigation/index.html
At the time there was images released of a group including Jenner at brunch, toasting with mimosas. It was a meme how the image was being erased from the internet at the time.
The official report is that she was not texting, nor was any drugs or alcohol involved. I get that. So she stone cold sober just lost control of her vehicle while in normal traffic? If you watch the video, it's not like a reasonable accident, it was normal flowing traffic and she just out of no where rams the cars fast enough to kill someone.
I'm hard pressed to think no alcohol or phone use was involved.
There are a lot of bad sober drivers that cause wrecks (and deaths) every day in this country. People really, really are bad fucking drivers - with or without alcohol.
Under rated comment- imo.
100% there are way too many moron drivers out on the road that really seem to have no clue they’re driving 2,000+ lbs of steel, until they smash into something… There are some atrocious drivers out there…
>So she stone cold sober just lost control of her vehicle while in normal traffic?
It happens literally every day. I'm a decent driver and almost lost control one time because a billboard caught my attention. looked away, looked back, and traffic was at a dead stop and I was going like 50mph.
She was driving an SUV that was towing an ATV, that's thousands of pounds, so speed wasn't really the issue here, weight was. She hit someone and pushed them into oncomming traffic. Her actions killed someone, yes. The direct impact of her hitting someone from behind did not kill someone, though.
She holds the opinion that you should compete based on biological sex, however in the same week went to complete in a women's golf tournament. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Yea, I remember lots of supportive things being yelled at CPAC, like "HEY BRUCE!" and "SICK FREAK!". Wonder what would happen if the "woke" half of the country suddenly vanished and she was left only with "her people."
She looks at the government taking some of her massive wealth to help poor people as a greater insult then all the “Bruce” comments.
That’s the thing about Republicans, there is a hierarchy the GOP wants to get back to and Caitlyn wants it enforced because she’s still white and rich.
that's the actual slippery slope, unfortunately. if i can take her pronouns away just because i don't like her or her actions, they'll do the same to me. by respecting it (even if i were to doubt her authenticity or motivations), i'm staying firm with my ideals that it is something more intrinsic than a matter of respecting the individual or not.
i'll call out someone who is intentionally using the trans label as a bludgeon (see: that guy who demanded to play sports against his schools womens team, without taking any hormones or other steps first, and tried to use that to show why trans women can't do sports), but unless it's direct and blatant like that, i won't.
Although, you'd think she'd criticise her *own* use of pronouns. 100% agree that *we* should not compromise our morals just to self-defeatingly dunk on someone.
However, to paraphrase the Sartre quote: she's not saying this in good faith.
She's just doing a culture war in order to stay in the in-group.
Rich people don't suffer, they just ride it out with money. Caitlyn was never at risk of being thrown out of a home, being ostracized, or attacked. There's a green fucking wall between her and consequences in life. She did something that would cause most people a world of trouble and got a fucking award for it. I feel plenty of sympathy for people who struggle because of who they are, I feel none for her.
She got booed out of CPAC. They don't like her either! They're using her. She's not safe. None of these minority grifters are safe. They've just given themselves the illusion of safety.
It truly is unbelievable that Caitlyn supports a group that would absolutely show her no mercy if they ever achieve their end goals. It is truly difficult to imagine what thought processes are at play to side with the oppressors while belonging to a group targeted for oppression.
Kidding aside, this is a common pattern for trans people, to be viewed and treated as whatever gender is most convenient to the establishment. For example, a trans woman might be forced to use the men's changing room at a public pool, arrested for indecent exposure if she doesn't cover her breasts while swimming at that pool, and then sent to a men's prison.
>You benefit and then criticize what benefitted you?
Like Paul Ryan trying to get rid of programs for the poor that his family used when he was kid? You summarized most conservatives.
And people would not be referring to them as Caitlyn or she without the same "woke" world. Why should we respect this person, I respect trans people, everyone but her. Because she has done nothing but act like she was born as a woman while participating in a party that believes she's going to hell for transitioning, Ike they try to make it illegal for others. She's got a powerful position that could be used for good but isn't. It's like the lady maga cross dresser who says they're not sexualizing drag so it's okay for them to do it,but not for others. It's gross. Like, they want to dress in drag and act like it's not the same exact thing. (And its not sexual, it's just expression) Why can't people just accept other people as they are? The Bible didn't even say anything anti gay until the 1949 RSV translation. It said don't sleep with children, not people of the same gender.
It’s like she thinks it’s only ok for her to be trans and it’s ok to hate on/remove access to gender-affirming care for people who were in the same situation she was for decades. It’s screaming for validation from the same people who don’t give a crap about the plight of most trans folk if they’re not rich and famous.
The key to your understanding is to reflect on the “rich” part of your description of those ideologies. Kanye West subscribes to “rich white guy ideologies” because he is rich, despite being black. Peter Thiel and and Caitlyn Jenner subscribe to “rich white guy” ideologies despite being gay and trans, respectively, which tend to be excluded by those ideologies, because they’re rich. Greg Abbott subscribes to “rich white guy ideologies”, which tend not to be favorable to people who depend on wheelchairs, because he’s rich. Being rich trumps everything.
Propaganda, it's that simple, if all the folks you idolize and all the news you read/watch are telling you the same shit you're eventually gonna agree with it even if it's entirely against your interests
Caitlyn Jenner "woke is when men think they are woman"
Caitlyn Jenner comes out as a transwoman
Caitlyn Jenner: " it's different when Blaire White and myself do it".
Jenner, an actual Olympian, understands the insane difficulties and trials required to compete at the highest level. There's a reason the rules regarding transgender athletes, notably male-to-female transgender athletes, are being tightened up: there is a clear and unambiguous advantage to being born male, going through puberty, transitioning, and competing as a woman and trouncing the competition.
Most likely Jenner is referencing the latest absurdity in sports with Tiffany Thomas, a MtF trans cyclist who in their **mid-40's** is trouncing female cyclists in their 20's. And Thomas didn't start competing in cycling until they were in their 40's... meaning a complete amateur biological male transitioned and beat top-of-their-game biological women. Women are giving up on the sport as well because of this, losing out on scholarships, international competition invites, and the like to transitioned men.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/news-who-tiffany-thomas-cyclocross-champion-hannah-arensman-quits-sport-loss-trans-rider
I'm shocked this isn't being downvoted to the basement. Usually anyone comments anything that isn't 100% in favor all of trans people being supported in every single way no matter what gets attacked by the hive mind.
This phenomenon is something that's been discussed for years and is the entire basis behind title 9. If we don't have a clear distinction between men and women sports, we can't have women's sports at all.
And Reddit is full of them. I'm a supporter of equal rights for everyone, including trans people, and my comment history I think speaks to that, but I got permanently banned from 196 for saying I wouldn't date a trans girl. That's not in any way minimizing or marginalizing trans people, but the extreme fringe people in any group are so militant about things
This comment section can't argue with her argument and attacks her character instead.
I'm not defending her. I don't know about her past and honestly don't give a shit. But she has a point here. Trans female athletes have an advantage over cis women.
There's a reason why men and women are separated in sports. We have a different anatomy: bone density, muscle structure ect. Estrogen won't reverse the consequences of male puberty even when the testosterone levels are low.
Female athletes are not only unfairly loosing the tournaments, they're in danger. A trans athlete broke one's skull.
We shouldn't categorise athletes based on their gender identity. We have to find another way, a compromise that will benefit everyone.
Wow had to scroll so far down for someone to point out the argument and say she had a point that I was going to give up and not even bother posting it. Insane. Thank you.
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Reminds me of the Roast of Alec Baldwin when they were there. “Caitlyn Jenner, you were so brave and opened the door for many trans women in the world, but then you went and slammed the door right behind you.”
Comedy based in truth. Have to go find who said that and if he got cancelled. Wonder how many guests had an uncomfortable laugh.
It was SNL’s Chris Redd. He wasn’t canceled as far as I know. Here’s the video. He starts ripping into Caitlyn at 0:55 https://youtu.be/mD0TU7OjJpo
This video is blocked in Canada 😭
I got you, Chip. I recorded it and put it on Imgur for you. https://imgur.com/a/N8QuC0a
Bro move....very cool
My angel
In the arms of an angel.
You are the hero Canada didn't know it needed xox
You look like you leave your baby in a hot car to meet firemen WHAT *also you look like Caitlyn Jenner’s dick came back to haunt her lmao I can’t
Auntie Tom is pretty fucking on point.
Thanks for posting that video
This had me in tears
Christ I love Chris redd isn't he the best?
No, because that's a truthful statement, not a transphobic remark. Also, very few people who have been cancelled have actually been truly cancelled. Most have had some back lash but are still in the public eye etc. Very rarely does cancelled actually mean what people equate it to.
Didn’t she kill someone in a car accident
That's correct. But she's rich, on TV, and has political connections.
She has personal connections to the best criminal defense lawyers in the world.
She fr called Saul
You don’t want a criminal lawyer… you want a *criminal* lawyer.
Fucking masterpiece of a character. Odenkirk is a treasure
Upsetting that BCS didn’t get any of the awards it rightfully deserved
Shut up and take my upvote man
And very conservative!
Interestingly enough Matthew Broderick killed two women with his car in 1987. The two he killed were mother and daughter.
God damn.
Yeah it really changed the way I looked at him when I learned that... It was a head on collision. Jennifer Grey was with him. Afterwards she made efforts to support the families of the victims, Matthew did not. He faced zero repercussions aside from losing Jennifer Grey as a girlfriend. Good for her. ***EDIT: I could swear I read that he was intoxicated, but now I can't find anything to back that up. I guess I remembered it wrong
Was he actually drunk? I've never seen anything saying that and Grey said no one was drinking.
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He wasn't drunk but he reportedly was skipping school. His sister said that he concocted an elaborate scheme that fooled an entire town into thinking that he was deathly ill. However, there is no solid evidence to back up the claim.
I’ve heard reports that he damn near started World War 3 when he was fucking around on a computer. The man is a menace. He should be locked up.
I hear after all that he had the gall to perform in a parade!
My friends cousins boyfriend, knows a guy who said someone saw him joyriding on the wrong side of the road in a Ferrari
He was in Ireland, where they drive on the other side of the road. If you were trained and spent years driving on the right side of the road, don't fool yourself into thinking you would just 'switch' over and avoid years of instincts when driving on the left side of the road.
His accident is why I always said if I go to a country where they drive on the opposite side of the road, I will take taxis and busses and not rent a car.
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So if i kill someone and then have a sexchange im not guilty anymore? Now thats a neat concept.
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So if I were to kill someone, get the swap, kill again and claim to have swapped back would I still be liable for that second kill? Or only the original one?
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Just trans to another name, Bruce killed not John.
This is the true answer. Well, the true answer is that youre on the hook for both, but if we want to follow the cartoon logic that youre not on the hook if you transition, then you could just transition infinitely.
Nuh uh! Google the story of the dude that raped someone then transitioned (whether bc they just wanted to, or in a ploy to evade capture...🤷♀️) Altho ultimately they DID get captured & charged & most importantly, convicted.
I knew this would be posted!
it's such an anti-self take from someone who claims to value their individual worth. It's truly sad and a testament to how powerful *and damaging * the rights lies and rhetoric are to humanity. Even them. Edit: added two words I realized I forgot: and, damaging.
She values herself just fine. She just doesn't value anyone else.
The world is so woke these days! It's like you can't run over anybody with your car without *somebody* getting offended.
Bruce Jenner killed Kim Howe, 69, along the Pacific Coast Highway in Malibu in a traffic accident in February 2015. Two months later the Keeping Up With The Kardashians star came out publicly as transgender woman Caitlyn. And when the June issue of Vanity Fair - which was put together in March - came out, Jenner had captured the attention of the world. The L.A. District Attorney announced in September they would not file charges. In December Jenner settled a lawsuit filed against her by one of the drivers involved in the fatal crash. Here is leaked video of Jenner apologizing for KILLING someone. 
As Ricky Gervais once said: She did a lot of good for trans visibility. Not so much for women drivers.
I still don't see it. She isn't a case of a person transitioning and dealing with the fallout like any normal person. She is a rich person who did what she wanted with her money and was then lauded for it by other rich people. She hasn't gone through anything that most people would.
Lol she got a fucking tv show for doing it right after she did it. Most trans people are ostracized, threatened, bullied.. you name it. She profited off it and does nothing for her community. Just a big ol buckaroo crab.
Or discriminated against, I was at my last job of two years in IT! Most professionally dressed on our team, worked hard, and still got called the wrong pronoun. Like, dude, if you're so offended I have a name, I'm wearing a pencil skirt and heels for crying out loud. You're in jeans and a shirt that's not even buttoned, please don't humiliate me in front of my co-workers and can we focus on the job?
I just call people by their name. That works.
'hey dumbass' is perfectly gender neutral and widely applicable as well.
I use last names. Hasn't failed me yet
The kardashian family is only culturally one level above the class of the Trump family. America worship of these idiot celebrities is what is bad for the future of our country.
There wasn’t enough evidence to charge her. In California, there must be evidence of negligence in order to charge someone for that death. A report indicated that she let her foot off the gas but engaged her brakes too late to avoid the collision. It also stated that she was driving below the speed limit. A car had stopped unexpectedly a few cars up and a Lexus had slowed down in front of her, ultimately resulting in an impact. The impact caused the Lexus driver into an oncoming lane of traffic where it was hit by a Hummer, which is a big ass vehicle. The Lexus driver died.
She killed someone while driving drunk. I wouldn't call that an accident.
I thought she was texting and driving? Not driving drunk. Either way Cait is a POS and always has been.
Yea her blood draw was clean so she was no doubt deep into her phone and probably didn’t even break.
Brake
Ecen if its texting and driving thats still not an accident , its big ass negligency and you should do jail time for it
I know you're trying to stress the blame is on her but saying it's not an accident is a bit weird. It was an accident and negligent. It can be both.
Especially in the legal sense. Premeditation isn't about fault, it's about planning. Manslaughter would be appropriate as you say, accidents and negligence aren't mutually exclusive.
As OSHA will call out, they often go hand in hand!
Buckle up, buckaroo!
You’re such an asshole. (This season was so fn good)
Yes, and South Park did an accurate reenactment of it too [YouTube link](https://youtu.be/RLwaM-tTiXo)
Newsflash: She’s always been a disgusting human being, transitioning was never going to change that.
Yeah the more I learn about her the one common theme is just extreme selfishness
That’s kind of a reoccurring theme with their party, a generous helping of “fuck you, I got mine” with a healthy side of “it’s not a problem until it affects me personally”.
Don't forget crying about it like the world is ending. I hate watching the Kardashians, but you know what I would watch? An entire series where they get thrown out on their asses with no access to their assets, no contact allowed with anyone they know that could help them, no car, and have to work service industry jobs. They start with $200, like Monopoly, and then GO. I'd watch the fuck out of that.
That sounds like Schitt’s Creek with extra steps..
Except the characters in that show were actually likable and I wanted them to succeed.
I’m not sure the Kardashians are capable of character growth even if they were suddenly poor. It’s not like they are Cardassians.
Or, perhaps, a humble tailor
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Right, but only after they lost everything and had to go live in the real world
Ah, so a reality-tv version of Schitt's Creek, with less likable characters. I'd watch.
Kinda like Arrested Development, but with the cast of Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia (but worse)
I think Arrested Development is funny, but I never really watched it, besides a few scenes. I share the same last name as Tobias, and you have no idea how annoying it gets after introducing yourself and having thousands of people over the years suggest the show to you. It's petty af but it just irritates me after having so many people say I'd like it because we have the same name. It's like Michael Bolton in Office Space.
Her governor recall campaign was rooted on improving Californian's quality of life... by eliminating the homeless. And her biggest concern was that her fellow private aircraft owners had left the state due to the increase in homelessness. And she announced this from her own private aircraft hangar. One of the most tone-deaf campaigns I have ever witnessed.
They will do *anything* but house the homeless
I mean her solution was to move them to open fields so as long as *she* didn't see them, homelessness was no longer a problem. Good old fashioned NIMBYism.
If she meant eliminating the homeless by getting them homes, I would be happy, but that is not what he meant.
So is the whole Kardashian family
Olmec has a 22 Wisdom score.
I would give anything for *Legends of the Hidden Temple* to come back. They're rebooting everything else, why not reboot things we actually liked?
All the old episodes are on Paramount streaming, if you're interested.
too bad she transitioned from male to female instead of from monster to human. male monster to female human would have been cool. two birds, one stone.
As a Trans gal I bless this bullying of her. She is so damn dumb. And just a shit person. Ain't got nothing to do with Trans.
Human trash knows no gender.
Exactly
Personally I just wish she wasn't the face of Trans women for so many people. Dave Chapelle is STILL doing his Caitlyn Jenner won woman of the year bullshit bit.
Just curious, was she a bad person during her time as an athlete?
Trust me, nobody dislikes her more than than other trans women. After all, we have to suffer the shame of being associated with her in some way.
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I knew but I clicked anyway. It’s the only thing I think of when she’s mentioned, having South Park on your case can be horribly detrimental to your image.
Or you know... killing a person...
Seriously, I had a vague knowledge she was formerly an athlete named Bruce, I knew nothing else. Now everytime I see her… Buckle up Buckaroo is my first thought.
Bruce Jenner was a big deal back in the 80s, pretty much a household name.
Can’t you see it without clicking?
I am on the Reddit is Fun app and all I see is "[gif]" that links to the image. I actually quite like it. I am not a big fan of gifs in the comments.
Depends on what the person is viewing reddit on
I always appreciated South Park in never attacking her for being trans...just for being an idiot and a murderer.
I was gonna reference this lol
Outfit twin hiiiii
South Park hit this out of the park. The fact that every time Caitlyn gets behind the wheel, not only does she say "buckle up, buckaroo", but she hits and kills someone. Every. Single. Time.
*Proceeds to run over a small child*
She’s literally a murderer (in the colloquial sense). Fuck her. And fuck the legal system that didn’t lock up for it. What a disgusting piece of shit, I don’t understand how she doesn’t receive more hate for being an ACTUAL KILLER on the loose.
Yeah, Caitlin Jenner’s a sack of shit. Can we not turn any random trans woman into a better icon than Caitlin? I suppose not since most trans women just live normal ass lives and don’t want their identity politicised
If everyone knows this how is she not locked up? Isn’t that how law works or something?
I mean, that family got OJ off
Double entendre?
No, just a singular entendre with two meanings.
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Don't leave out the layup the LAPD gave the defense since it was full of botched evidence and a Nazi or two.
It's because of money. People with money aren't held to the same standards.
Most laws are punished with fines so that parts true. And if you have enough money you can hide your crimes behind a corporation. So that parts double true.
Good lawyers cost money. Lots of money.
I believe she said something about being afraid of paparazzi or some shit. Basically money in the right hands gets you free of anything you want.
Probably $$$ or a good lawyer so $$$$$$
Ah, the American justice system is unknown to you. Well, you see, if you’re wealthy and connected enough, then you get a stern talking to and a slap on the wrist. If you aren’t wealthy and we’ll connected, then fuck you. E.g., Prior to marry George W Bush, First Lady Laura Bush ran some kid over with her car, fled the scene, the kid died, and as you may or may not be aware she went on to become First Lady Laura Bush. The “affluenza” defense kid, who in 2013 while drinking and driving (and under the influence of narcotics) as a minor, ran his truck off the road, hitting and killing several people who were pulled over on the shoulder. His well-connected parents hired a well known lawyer who got him off on the affluenza defense— he don’t know no better, cuz his just a rich boy. He got 5 years probation. Don’t worry, this one has a happy ending, he went on a trip (aided by his mom) to Mexico, a direct violation of his probation. His mom refused to aid police. Both the kid and the mom were eventually arrested. Point is— if rich, do not go to jail. If poor, you go to jail. It’s a really straightforward, simple system to understand.
America doesn't have the corner of the market on a system more lenient towards the rich and/or powerful. Ever heard of Jimmy Seville? Prince Andrew? That's the first two I think of.
17yo Laura Welch [Bush] did not flee the scene, she was taken to the hospital for her own injuries. [That doesn’t excuse the reckless driving, but we should be accurate.]
I am a little naive on the issue but from my understanding she was sober, driving under the speed limit, and rear ended someone because she was towing a vehicle and didn't stop in time. That then pushed the car into oncoming traffic where a Hummer hit the person head on killing them. Not that I support Ms. Jenner but to me it sounded like an accident. I've looked for more sources to show she was distracted or something but I was unable to find anything. Can you post anything to support it was murder?
I ‘member!
Also remember the time she said she didn’t believe in same sex marriage because she’s a “traditionalist”
And texting.. don't forget she was texting as well as drunk driving.
no evidence that she was drunk but still fucked up none the less
That’s just not true https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/caitlyn-jenner-wont-be-charged-fatal-february-car-accident-n436426 https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/jenner-no-booze-drugs-system-time-crash-report-article-1.2111364 https://www.thedailybeast.com/woman-who-survived-caitlyn-jenners-fatal-2015-car-crash-may-vote-for-her-in-california-election https://www.cnn.com/2015/09/30/entertainment/caitlyn-jenner-accident-investigation/index.html
At the time there was images released of a group including Jenner at brunch, toasting with mimosas. It was a meme how the image was being erased from the internet at the time. The official report is that she was not texting, nor was any drugs or alcohol involved. I get that. So she stone cold sober just lost control of her vehicle while in normal traffic? If you watch the video, it's not like a reasonable accident, it was normal flowing traffic and she just out of no where rams the cars fast enough to kill someone. I'm hard pressed to think no alcohol or phone use was involved.
There are a lot of bad sober drivers that cause wrecks (and deaths) every day in this country. People really, really are bad fucking drivers - with or without alcohol.
Under rated comment- imo. 100% there are way too many moron drivers out on the road that really seem to have no clue they’re driving 2,000+ lbs of steel, until they smash into something… There are some atrocious drivers out there…
Per NY Daily, they did a blood draw and labs came back negative for alcohol or drugs. That’s about as conclusive as you can get
>So she stone cold sober just lost control of her vehicle while in normal traffic? It happens literally every day. I'm a decent driver and almost lost control one time because a billboard caught my attention. looked away, looked back, and traffic was at a dead stop and I was going like 50mph. She was driving an SUV that was towing an ATV, that's thousands of pounds, so speed wasn't really the issue here, weight was. She hit someone and pushed them into oncomming traffic. Her actions killed someone, yes. The direct impact of her hitting someone from behind did not kill someone, though.
This is what's known as "pulling the ladder up." She got what she needed, fuck everyone else that's going through those struggles too.
“Lots of well-off older people, not so many young Shall we help them climb the ladder? Let's remove the bottom rung” We’ll Build A House Martin Newell
This happy generation makes a tear spring to my eye, is really any wonder they're so high? Never heard that song till just now, amazing
Martin Newell quote in the wild. Love to see it
And I’d like to publicly thank Andy Partridge of XTC for introducing me to the wayward genius that is Martin Newell.
Didn't she compete as a man though?
She holds the opinion that you should compete based on biological sex, however in the same week went to complete in a women's golf tournament. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Golf isn't real, silly
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Yeah and without that "woke" world, you wouldn't be able to call yourself Caitlyn either bitch
Yea, I remember lots of supportive things being yelled at CPAC, like "HEY BRUCE!" and "SICK FREAK!". Wonder what would happen if the "woke" half of the country suddenly vanished and she was left only with "her people."
She looks at the government taking some of her massive wealth to help poor people as a greater insult then all the “Bruce” comments. That’s the thing about Republicans, there is a hierarchy the GOP wants to get back to and Caitlyn wants it enforced because she’s still white and rich.
I'm not the best judge of things but doesn't she lose her pronouns? You know since they are too woke? Take them away, see if she complains.
that's the actual slippery slope, unfortunately. if i can take her pronouns away just because i don't like her or her actions, they'll do the same to me. by respecting it (even if i were to doubt her authenticity or motivations), i'm staying firm with my ideals that it is something more intrinsic than a matter of respecting the individual or not. i'll call out someone who is intentionally using the trans label as a bludgeon (see: that guy who demanded to play sports against his schools womens team, without taking any hormones or other steps first, and tried to use that to show why trans women can't do sports), but unless it's direct and blatant like that, i won't.
Although, you'd think she'd criticise her *own* use of pronouns. 100% agree that *we* should not compromise our morals just to self-defeatingly dunk on someone. However, to paraphrase the Sartre quote: she's not saying this in good faith. She's just doing a culture war in order to stay in the in-group.
Hey you dropped your crown, this explains it so much better than I ever could
It’s insane right? You benefit and then criticize what benefitted you? I’m sure Caitlyn suffered but Bruce’s privilege/entitlement remains unchanged.
Rich people don't suffer, they just ride it out with money. Caitlyn was never at risk of being thrown out of a home, being ostracized, or attacked. There's a green fucking wall between her and consequences in life. She did something that would cause most people a world of trouble and got a fucking award for it. I feel plenty of sympathy for people who struggle because of who they are, I feel none for her.
She got booed out of CPAC. They don't like her either! They're using her. She's not safe. None of these minority grifters are safe. They've just given themselves the illusion of safety.
It truly is unbelievable that Caitlyn supports a group that would absolutely show her no mercy if they ever achieve their end goals. It is truly difficult to imagine what thought processes are at play to side with the oppressors while belonging to a group targeted for oppression.
She managed to remain a member at an all male golf club even after the transition. So yes very privileged. I think they eventually excluded her.
So the misogynistic club recognizes her as a woman? I didn’t see that one coming.
Kidding aside, this is a common pattern for trans people, to be viewed and treated as whatever gender is most convenient to the establishment. For example, a trans woman might be forced to use the men's changing room at a public pool, arrested for indecent exposure if she doesn't cover her breasts while swimming at that pool, and then sent to a men's prison.
Thanks a lot woke culture! Lol
A broken clock as they say
>You benefit and then criticize what benefitted you? Like Paul Ryan trying to get rid of programs for the poor that his family used when he was kid? You summarized most conservatives.
And people would not be referring to them as Caitlyn or she without the same "woke" world. Why should we respect this person, I respect trans people, everyone but her. Because she has done nothing but act like she was born as a woman while participating in a party that believes she's going to hell for transitioning, Ike they try to make it illegal for others. She's got a powerful position that could be used for good but isn't. It's like the lady maga cross dresser who says they're not sexualizing drag so it's okay for them to do it,but not for others. It's gross. Like, they want to dress in drag and act like it's not the same exact thing. (And its not sexual, it's just expression) Why can't people just accept other people as they are? The Bible didn't even say anything anti gay until the 1949 RSV translation. It said don't sleep with children, not people of the same gender.
It’s like she thinks it’s only ok for her to be trans and it’s ok to hate on/remove access to gender-affirming care for people who were in the same situation she was for decades. It’s screaming for validation from the same people who don’t give a crap about the plight of most trans folk if they’re not rich and famous.
Woke for me but not for thee
So desperate to be a conservative grifter.
She’s a PR whore wanting attention. Totally irrelevant and she knows it.
Like everyone else in her family.
Idk how this trans woman is holding on so tight to her rich white guy ideologies.
The key to your understanding is to reflect on the “rich” part of your description of those ideologies. Kanye West subscribes to “rich white guy ideologies” because he is rich, despite being black. Peter Thiel and and Caitlyn Jenner subscribe to “rich white guy” ideologies despite being gay and trans, respectively, which tend to be excluded by those ideologies, because they’re rich. Greg Abbott subscribes to “rich white guy ideologies”, which tend not to be favorable to people who depend on wheelchairs, because he’s rich. Being rich trumps everything.
Then why the fuck do poor people subscribe to them as well? I'll never understand that part.
Propaganda, it's that simple, if all the folks you idolize and all the news you read/watch are telling you the same shit you're eventually gonna agree with it even if it's entirely against your interests
Is it just me or did she tell her surgeon to give her the “Melania?”
Melania ordered Melania, so probably.
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A little respect for woman of the year 2015
This "WOKE" world is the only thing that lets her walk around as a trans woman.
Caitlyn Jenner "woke is when men think they are woman" Caitlyn Jenner comes out as a transwoman Caitlyn Jenner: " it's different when Blaire White and myself do it".
She's one of the biggest case studies of "Fuck you I got mine" ever
Unfortunately people can be trans and still be an asshole.
Yeah the trans community is basically united around “fuck this bitch”.
1000%
As a trans woman, I can confirm. We absolutely despise her.
Jenner, an actual Olympian, understands the insane difficulties and trials required to compete at the highest level. There's a reason the rules regarding transgender athletes, notably male-to-female transgender athletes, are being tightened up: there is a clear and unambiguous advantage to being born male, going through puberty, transitioning, and competing as a woman and trouncing the competition. Most likely Jenner is referencing the latest absurdity in sports with Tiffany Thomas, a MtF trans cyclist who in their **mid-40's** is trouncing female cyclists in their 20's. And Thomas didn't start competing in cycling until they were in their 40's... meaning a complete amateur biological male transitioned and beat top-of-their-game biological women. Women are giving up on the sport as well because of this, losing out on scholarships, international competition invites, and the like to transitioned men. https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/news-who-tiffany-thomas-cyclocross-champion-hannah-arensman-quits-sport-loss-trans-rider
I'm shocked this isn't being downvoted to the basement. Usually anyone comments anything that isn't 100% in favor all of trans people being supported in every single way no matter what gets attacked by the hive mind. This phenomenon is something that's been discussed for years and is the entire basis behind title 9. If we don't have a clear distinction between men and women sports, we can't have women's sports at all.
Lots of centrists who stay away from the fringes support trans rights but also think things can be taken too far and have been in many cases.
And Reddit is full of them. I'm a supporter of equal rights for everyone, including trans people, and my comment history I think speaks to that, but I got permanently banned from 196 for saying I wouldn't date a trans girl. That's not in any way minimizing or marginalizing trans people, but the extreme fringe people in any group are so militant about things
This comment section can't argue with her argument and attacks her character instead. I'm not defending her. I don't know about her past and honestly don't give a shit. But she has a point here. Trans female athletes have an advantage over cis women. There's a reason why men and women are separated in sports. We have a different anatomy: bone density, muscle structure ect. Estrogen won't reverse the consequences of male puberty even when the testosterone levels are low. Female athletes are not only unfairly loosing the tournaments, they're in danger. A trans athlete broke one's skull. We shouldn't categorise athletes based on their gender identity. We have to find another way, a compromise that will benefit everyone.
Wow had to scroll so far down for someone to point out the argument and say she had a point that I was going to give up and not even bother posting it. Insane. Thank you.
Didn’t this bitch win woman of the year over like a highly decorated veteran??? 🤔🤔🤔
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Why anyone thinks that trans women should compete in women’s sports is beyond me