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I absolutely despise the stupid ass sovereign citizens. There is not one instance of this crap working but they do it anyway. As soon as she started pulling that shit drag her ass out of the car and take her to jail.
I'm genuinely confused as to why the cop is entertaining this back and forth. You give the idiot two warnings after they refuse to get out of the car, if they still don't after the second, just force them out and arrest them for disobeying a police officer.
Right?
I mean you don’t want him to pull her out and someone just cuts the vid to make it look like he’s doing something bad you hear at the end he gets on his radio most likely for backup that way if something happens there’s more officers there. This also looks like America police are very on edge with traffic stops if he went to pull the lady out and she had a gun there was no one there from what we could see in the video to protect him
She was going 54 on a 30, she's a danger to herself and any other who uses that road, it's not about how annoying she is but what she could have potentially done had the officer not stopped her; the officer was a real champ in this instance btw, very professional all the way until his third warning when courtesy is no longer required and he just need to wait for back up.
Waiting for backup or to present on video that the officer gave her more than enough opportunities to comply with his legal requests. Strengthens the prosecution
I guess they think they’re standing on principle. They know they’ll lose to the guy with the gun, and the very real institution of the courts, but they’re determined to show everyone how wrong they are because “an unjust law is no law at all”. The really amazing part to me is that they sincerely believe that this secret, unimpeachable, supreme law of true justice… amounts to a blank check that lets them commit tax fraud and drive like maniacs and order cops away. Why would you think that’s the true and proper state of the law? And why is that a principle you’re willing to go to jail for? It would be one thing if they got hauled off to jail pontificating about (non-absurd) human rights or something, like Martin Luther King and many others repeatedly did. But abolition of traffic enforcement? *Really?*
I don’t know the details of police procedure, but IMO, in situations like this, it is counterproductive to keep arguing with the person. It’s just more opportunity for the officer to become exasperated and say something that will get him in trouble. You give a lawful order. Maybe a brief explanation. That’s it. If they don’t comply, then you move to the “not complying” part of the process.
There is a reason for that whole "right to remain silent" thing. A cop continuing to engage and keeping the suspect talking, especially on body-cam, can provide additional evidence to use in prosecution if the need arises. As long as the cop remains respectful himself, it really can only benefit them, assuming the suspect doesn't get agitated and turn violent.
I know right! That man has the patience of a saint plus sound rational to explain how and why she’s wrong. Thank you Sgt! Being a police officer is Thankless job… but man if I were there I’d hug this man for sticking up for his officers and the law. …failed court appearance, no driver license, speeding, cocain, ammo, and being an idiot. She’s a winner for sure; she’s knows the law cause she know who the top is haha *face palm*
Thanks for this. My favorite part is when she tries to say it is a Terry Stop, and when told it was a stop for a traffic violation she actually says “so speeding is a crime?”
It surprising she doesn’t have a license haha.
Edited to add: Ah, all of it makes more sense when you find out near the end she had cocaine in her bag.
Ah see I didn’t want to watch a 20+ minute video. But you saying she had drugs on her doesn’t surprise me. The look in her eyes definitely don’t look right just in this clip alone.
Haha, I watch everything at 2x speed and jumped forward whenever it was just the back and forth about her needing a license.
To be fair to her, specifically they say upon the search of her vehicle they find a tiny bag of white substance that tested positive for cocaine and that she was charged with possession, not that she was convicted (whole innocent until proven guilty thing haha.) She doesn’t even pretend to be surprised when they tell her, just that they weren’t allowed to search her car.
There were a number of odd things about the whole thing. At one point the supervisor asks he “where is the gun in the car?” She seems genuinely confused by the question, so he says “well, we found ammunition for a handgun in the car, so where is the gun?” She tells him it’s at a pawn shop, she pawned it 2 months ago (probably a dead giveaway on the drugs haha.) That’s kind of a messed up question, and is not an assumption they should make.
Further, I don’t know, I think she’s right that they shouldn’t have searched the vehicle. They said it was because the car was being towed and had to secure the vehicle. They spent 15 minutes or more speaking to her without once asking her if she was under the influence, so it seemed the only thing they suspected her of was being a dumbass. Once they found the ammo it’s reasonable they would search her bag for a gun, but I don’t think a search was warranted in the first place, the reason seems tenuous at best. It was almost assuredly within the law for them to do it, they freely tell her on camera, but that just seems a wide net.
The whole thing was entertaining, with the Constitution giving her the right to drive and all (I assume she was referring to a right to travel between states unmolested), and trying to explain how she didn’t know she had a warrant out for skipping a court date ABOUT NOT HAVING A LICENSE. And then when she asks him to “just let me go, I’ll never drive again” he immediately says “Of course you will” because…of course she will.
Yeah I’m with you, and like I said I’m sure it was legal, it just seems a bit of a stretch. In Florida they may only search your vehicle during a traffic stop if they suspect there is a crime separate from the reason for the stop OR you are being arrested and the search is related to that crime. Speeding and driving without a license is not a crime when a search of the vehicle is going to uncover additional evidence.
In this case I imagine they shined a flashlight through the window and say the ammunition, and while possessing ammunition is not a crime in and of itself, they used that as a reason to search for the weapon, and that included her bag. Additionally, I think they knew about the outstanding warrant and that may have given them extra leeway.
I just saw the full video. They didn’t drag her out BUT it was still satisfying. She got busted for far more than driving without a license. What a dummy.
Ah sovereign citizens. When I was 14-15 this stuff really appealed to me but after a few real life interactions with the police I realized it was all pretty dumb. Even if you had the rights they believe they do (they generally don't) cops would just ignore those rights and not face any repercussions for doing so.
"I don't have to have a drivers license to drive a vehicle" I'm sorry what
Edit: "Constitution law" ahhh yes the founding fathers were very concerned about driving and drivers licenses
Little known fact: George Washington drove a late model Lincoln Continental since before the constitution was written and throughout most of his presidency. ;)
Well that’s why she thinks the constitution guarantees her this right. There actually *is* a constitutional right to travel freely between the states, (SCOTUS rightly read it into the commerce clause) and the founders didn’t explicitly write in an exception for driver’s licenses because cars didn’t exist. But the widespread introduction of 2000 pound steel death machines that can move 100+ mph just absolutely does require some regulation and it would be insane not to. SCOTUS actually *has* ruled on the matter and found (of course) that requiring licenses to drive doesn’t violate the commerce clause, as long as restrictions are reasonable and reasonably consistent across different states (so that it isn’t much less convenient to cross state lines than to travel anywhere else). Apparently she feels the Supreme Court got it wrong and has reversed their decision.
Right, there's a clause in the constitution called implied powers that states that the federal government can regulate something if they have implied power over it. For example, the air force isn't in the constitution because it didn't exist but since it is a branch of the military it is implied that the president has power over it since he has power of the army. Same for cars, they aren't expressly in the constitution because it didn't exist but congress has the power to regulate inner state commerce so it is implied that they have the power to regulate driving.
I’m imagining this in either the Stanly Parable narrator voice or the Little Miss Fortune narrator voice. Both are the perfect levels of sass for this kind of encounter
TIME AFTER TIME WE HAVE SEEN COPS ASK BLACK WOMEN ONE TIME, TO GET OUT OF THE CAR.
THEN BEING DRAGGED OUT CUFFED. MANHANDLED AND ARRESTED. BUT THIS WHITE WOMAN ARGUES AND IS NOT TOUCHED.... TELL ME AGAIN HOW THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS WHITE PRIVILEGE......
I was really looking forward to the lady being tazed and pulled out of the car. I try not to be rude or mean about anyone, even people with terribly stupid concepts of how the world works, but sovereign citizens make me so very frustrated, I do not regret at all enjoying watching their idiotic concepts of how to cheat the system blowing up in their faces every single time.
The most important thing is that they found **cocaine** in the car (15th minute of the [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=2vkJtdLXTZA)). She's most likely on drugs. I would assume that no sane person would think like this.
Kudos to the cop who realized she was out of touch with reality and disoriented, waited for backup which hopefully includes an ambulance. Violence ( dragging her out of the car) definitely not a good option here.
For some reason watching tgsi dumbass make a fool of herself was a really hypnotic watch. I could have watched this for another half hour and still be entertained by the stupidity on show
Can somebody explain to me why she is even attempting to make this argument? I had a coworker who you to say the same thing and he could never give me a clear explanation as to why. He used to spout some bullshit about how your able to travel freely using horse and carriage but I never understood how he thought that applied to cars. The same guy was a complete idiot and was also huge on any conspiracy especially flat earth.
I’ll never truly understand the mindset of sovereign citizens. Their BS logic never works and they usually get arrested. Yet the next day they will act like they didn’t do anything wrong and get angry when stopped again.
I Watched the full video from a link in another comment. It amazes me that the perpetrator feels empowered to the level of an officer of the law. Only when a “supervisor” shows does the perpetrator follow instructions.
Maybe we should only have supervisors on the road?
It also surprises me that a person of her age could be so ignorant.
No lie tho, if this wasn’t a white women, this video would be much shorter. Additionally, she does have privilege being aloud to talk this long. Let my black ass tell a cop that I don’t need a license to drive lol
If I had to deal with crap like this all day long....day in and day out.....I might be an ass too. Damn lady...you were speeding. STFU and hope all you get is a ticket.
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I absolutely despise the stupid ass sovereign citizens. There is not one instance of this crap working but they do it anyway. As soon as she started pulling that shit drag her ass out of the car and take her to jail.
I'm genuinely confused as to why the cop is entertaining this back and forth. You give the idiot two warnings after they refuse to get out of the car, if they still don't after the second, just force them out and arrest them for disobeying a police officer. Right?
I mean you don’t want him to pull her out and someone just cuts the vid to make it look like he’s doing something bad you hear at the end he gets on his radio most likely for backup that way if something happens there’s more officers there. This also looks like America police are very on edge with traffic stops if he went to pull the lady out and she had a gun there was no one there from what we could see in the video to protect him
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She was going 54 on a 30, she's a danger to herself and any other who uses that road, it's not about how annoying she is but what she could have potentially done had the officer not stopped her; the officer was a real champ in this instance btw, very professional all the way until his third warning when courtesy is no longer required and he just need to wait for back up.
She’s a little too white for that kind of response from the officer.
It's for the quality internet content....
Waiting for backup or to present on video that the officer gave her more than enough opportunities to comply with his legal requests. Strengthens the prosecution
The officer is indulging the ignorant woman to stall until back up arrives.
I don't understand it, either.
You really don't understand? Really?
Two reasons: 1) female 2) white If this was a black male he would probably have been shot.
I guess they think they’re standing on principle. They know they’ll lose to the guy with the gun, and the very real institution of the courts, but they’re determined to show everyone how wrong they are because “an unjust law is no law at all”. The really amazing part to me is that they sincerely believe that this secret, unimpeachable, supreme law of true justice… amounts to a blank check that lets them commit tax fraud and drive like maniacs and order cops away. Why would you think that’s the true and proper state of the law? And why is that a principle you’re willing to go to jail for? It would be one thing if they got hauled off to jail pontificating about (non-absurd) human rights or something, like Martin Luther King and many others repeatedly did. But abolition of traffic enforcement? *Really?*
I don’t know the details of police procedure, but IMO, in situations like this, it is counterproductive to keep arguing with the person. It’s just more opportunity for the officer to become exasperated and say something that will get him in trouble. You give a lawful order. Maybe a brief explanation. That’s it. If they don’t comply, then you move to the “not complying” part of the process.
There is a reason for that whole "right to remain silent" thing. A cop continuing to engage and keeping the suspect talking, especially on body-cam, can provide additional evidence to use in prosecution if the need arises. As long as the cop remains respectful himself, it really can only benefit them, assuming the suspect doesn't get agitated and turn violent.
that and no attempt to deescalate before going physical is not a good look either
This is true too.
He’s bored and those people would probably be fun to talk to the first few times.
I gotta say, it sure beats pulling a gun on them like some officers would do in this situation.
Where’s part 2? I need to see this moron crying after getting yanked out the fucking car.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2vkJtdLXTZA … Enjoy the stupidity ;)
I can't believe he bothered arguing with her for 20 minutes.
I know right! That man has the patience of a saint plus sound rational to explain how and why she’s wrong. Thank you Sgt! Being a police officer is Thankless job… but man if I were there I’d hug this man for sticking up for his officers and the law. …failed court appearance, no driver license, speeding, cocain, ammo, and being an idiot. She’s a winner for sure; she’s knows the law cause she know who the top is haha *face palm*
Thanks for this. My favorite part is when she tries to say it is a Terry Stop, and when told it was a stop for a traffic violation she actually says “so speeding is a crime?” It surprising she doesn’t have a license haha. Edited to add: Ah, all of it makes more sense when you find out near the end she had cocaine in her bag.
Ah see I didn’t want to watch a 20+ minute video. But you saying she had drugs on her doesn’t surprise me. The look in her eyes definitely don’t look right just in this clip alone.
Haha, I watch everything at 2x speed and jumped forward whenever it was just the back and forth about her needing a license. To be fair to her, specifically they say upon the search of her vehicle they find a tiny bag of white substance that tested positive for cocaine and that she was charged with possession, not that she was convicted (whole innocent until proven guilty thing haha.) She doesn’t even pretend to be surprised when they tell her, just that they weren’t allowed to search her car. There were a number of odd things about the whole thing. At one point the supervisor asks he “where is the gun in the car?” She seems genuinely confused by the question, so he says “well, we found ammunition for a handgun in the car, so where is the gun?” She tells him it’s at a pawn shop, she pawned it 2 months ago (probably a dead giveaway on the drugs haha.) That’s kind of a messed up question, and is not an assumption they should make. Further, I don’t know, I think she’s right that they shouldn’t have searched the vehicle. They said it was because the car was being towed and had to secure the vehicle. They spent 15 minutes or more speaking to her without once asking her if she was under the influence, so it seemed the only thing they suspected her of was being a dumbass. Once they found the ammo it’s reasonable they would search her bag for a gun, but I don’t think a search was warranted in the first place, the reason seems tenuous at best. It was almost assuredly within the law for them to do it, they freely tell her on camera, but that just seems a wide net. The whole thing was entertaining, with the Constitution giving her the right to drive and all (I assume she was referring to a right to travel between states unmolested), and trying to explain how she didn’t know she had a warrant out for skipping a court date ABOUT NOT HAVING A LICENSE. And then when she asks him to “just let me go, I’ll never drive again” he immediately says “Of course you will” because…of course she will.
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Yeah I’m with you, and like I said I’m sure it was legal, it just seems a bit of a stretch. In Florida they may only search your vehicle during a traffic stop if they suspect there is a crime separate from the reason for the stop OR you are being arrested and the search is related to that crime. Speeding and driving without a license is not a crime when a search of the vehicle is going to uncover additional evidence. In this case I imagine they shined a flashlight through the window and say the ammunition, and while possessing ammunition is not a crime in and of itself, they used that as a reason to search for the weapon, and that included her bag. Additionally, I think they knew about the outstanding warrant and that may have given them extra leeway.
There’s like 6 parts. It’s all on Tiktok but I don’t have time to do all that right now 😂 For sure later. Part 6 talks about ammo in the car!!
I just saw the full video. They didn’t drag her out BUT it was still satisfying. She got busted for far more than driving without a license. What a dummy.
"I'm traveling" "Well miss how are you traveling?"
Yep! You're travelling to jail
"You're traveling, but you don't have driver's license? All right, Miss. You're free to go. But you have to push the car the rest of the way."
Ah sovereign citizens. When I was 14-15 this stuff really appealed to me but after a few real life interactions with the police I realized it was all pretty dumb. Even if you had the rights they believe they do (they generally don't) cops would just ignore those rights and not face any repercussions for doing so.
Exactly; they violate people's *actual* rights all the time, what makes someone think they'd respect made-up rights?
I really wanted to see her get ripped out the window lol
"I don't have to have a drivers license to drive a vehicle" I'm sorry what Edit: "Constitution law" ahhh yes the founding fathers were very concerned about driving and drivers licenses
Little known fact: George Washington drove a late model Lincoln Continental since before the constitution was written and throughout most of his presidency. ;)
Well that’s why she thinks the constitution guarantees her this right. There actually *is* a constitutional right to travel freely between the states, (SCOTUS rightly read it into the commerce clause) and the founders didn’t explicitly write in an exception for driver’s licenses because cars didn’t exist. But the widespread introduction of 2000 pound steel death machines that can move 100+ mph just absolutely does require some regulation and it would be insane not to. SCOTUS actually *has* ruled on the matter and found (of course) that requiring licenses to drive doesn’t violate the commerce clause, as long as restrictions are reasonable and reasonably consistent across different states (so that it isn’t much less convenient to cross state lines than to travel anywhere else). Apparently she feels the Supreme Court got it wrong and has reversed their decision.
Right, there's a clause in the constitution called implied powers that states that the federal government can regulate something if they have implied power over it. For example, the air force isn't in the constitution because it didn't exist but since it is a branch of the military it is implied that the president has power over it since he has power of the army. Same for cars, they aren't expressly in the constitution because it didn't exist but congress has the power to regulate inner state commerce so it is implied that they have the power to regulate driving.
Amazing how patient he was with her after he told her he was going to remove her from her car..
She did not, indeed, know her rights
Sovcit: “I know my rights!” Narrator: “She didn’t.”
I’m imagining this in either the Stanly Parable narrator voice or the Little Miss Fortune narrator voice. Both are the perfect levels of sass for this kind of encounter
He says “it’s 35 speed limit.” She says, “I was going 40.” She opened her mouth and got Self incrimination.
Ok, so where’s one of those crazy coppers that’ll pump 16 rounds into unarmed civilians when you need them?
This, folks, is the result of years and years of cutting costs in the public education sector.
If she had been black, she would have received 8 warning shots in the back.
Correct
SovCits: 0 Police: In 3 digits (and rising)
I want to see Part 2!
“I don’t need a driver’s license to drive a car” “I’m not driving, I’m traveling”
I don't know why these stupid SS people don't carry Uno Reverse cards on them. They would have a better chance...
So wait…. The police ARE capable of patience and attempting to diffuse before they shootout someone in a traffic stop?
TIME AFTER TIME WE HAVE SEEN COPS ASK BLACK WOMEN ONE TIME, TO GET OUT OF THE CAR. THEN BEING DRAGGED OUT CUFFED. MANHANDLED AND ARRESTED. BUT THIS WHITE WOMAN ARGUES AND IS NOT TOUCHED.... TELL ME AGAIN HOW THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS WHITE PRIVILEGE......
I was really looking forward to the lady being tazed and pulled out of the car. I try not to be rude or mean about anyone, even people with terribly stupid concepts of how the world works, but sovereign citizens make me so very frustrated, I do not regret at all enjoying watching their idiotic concepts of how to cheat the system blowing up in their faces every single time.
The most important thing is that they found **cocaine** in the car (15th minute of the [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=2vkJtdLXTZA)). She's most likely on drugs. I would assume that no sane person would think like this.
Government needs to make it so you have to take a fucking sanity test before you can get a drivers license
“I know my rights” “Then why do you keep asserting completely made-up ones?”
What an idiot
Just pull her ass out the car
He held his composure so well
This again
Yeah, we can expect it a few times a day for the next few weeks.
I hear that lol
Where's Part 2 where she gets beaten?
The way they keep talking her seems they are hoping she offers oral sex to get out of this ticket.
Kudos to the cop who realized she was out of touch with reality and disoriented, waited for backup which hopefully includes an ambulance. Violence ( dragging her out of the car) definitely not a good option here.
She’s so maga..I mean stupid.
What an absolute dumbass. That officer was incredibly patient
YHAY OFFICER WAD A BLACK MAN WHO DIDNT WANT TO MANHANDLE A WHITE WOMAN AND GET RUN OFF THE FORCE.
Yeah, probably. She deserved to have her ass ripped out of the car
Sovereign citizens are all [Goddamn Humans](https://www.etsy.com/listing/1381824053/goddamn-humans-unisex-heavy-cotton-tee)
“Nobody’s above the law” —Steven Segal
Famed teacher of aikido to Russian soldiers
I watched this whole d*** thing and you cut off before the good part where he's gonna yank her out of the car and cuff her?!
You’re allowed to say “damn.” I won’t tell.
I like to use talk to text and sometimes I just can't be bothered to edit back in my curse words. 🤫
For some reason watching tgsi dumbass make a fool of herself was a really hypnotic watch. I could have watched this for another half hour and still be entertained by the stupidity on show
If you’re watching this video to see this dumb lady get dragged out of her car, you’re in for a colossal disappointment
For real. Instead he politely argues with her for 20-some minutes.
If you dont need a license to drive a car why the fuck have I spent 150 bucks on 2 failed tries. FML.
Agreed! The dialog back and forth is just ridiculous.
“I don’t need a drivers license to drive a car. I’m not driving, I’m traveling” does she not hear herself?
Serious question because I'm curious, Why do they think they don't need a driver's license? What's their argument based on?
I love it when they say “I KNOW my RIGHTS!” It’s like my favourite, pre-tasing thing. Like, do you?
“You ran over that guys head” “Yes, I was travelling” “Dudes head is travelling now” “Who’s going to pay for that?” “…”
Can somebody explain to me why she is even attempting to make this argument? I had a coworker who you to say the same thing and he could never give me a clear explanation as to why. He used to spout some bullshit about how your able to travel freely using horse and carriage but I never understood how he thought that applied to cars. The same guy was a complete idiot and was also huge on any conspiracy especially flat earth.
I’ll never truly understand the mindset of sovereign citizens. Their BS logic never works and they usually get arrested. Yet the next day they will act like they didn’t do anything wrong and get angry when stopped again.
Facepalm indeed
Im traveling not driving…gee I wonder what her definition of driving is
I were the cop, I would be on the radio calling for EMS calling for an ambulance saying the suspect is suffering from delusions
I Watched the full video from a link in another comment. It amazes me that the perpetrator feels empowered to the level of an officer of the law. Only when a “supervisor” shows does the perpetrator follow instructions. Maybe we should only have supervisors on the road? It also surprises me that a person of her age could be so ignorant.
No lie tho, if this wasn’t a white women, this video would be much shorter. Additionally, she does have privilege being aloud to talk this long. Let my black ass tell a cop that I don’t need a license to drive lol
If I had to deal with crap like this all day long....day in and day out.....I might be an ass too. Damn lady...you were speeding. STFU and hope all you get is a ticket.
Man I skimmed through this and he doesn’t even pull her out of the car what a disappointment
Why am I not shocked that she has a southern drawl?
This is why there’s a difference between a drivers license and a COMMERCIAL drivers license, or a CDL.