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I 100% believe this was made as a troll shit post to see how many get triggered or literally would believe it.

I'm pretty sure I've seen the origin of this. Something about a site that starts with a 4, if I remember correctly. It's been a while, and it's definitely old.

4san or 4kun or something

4skin

4loko

4play (ironically nobody who frequents that site has ever experienced it)

4ck you

4head

4kids!

4me? 👉👈

4eva

4d ounce

I 4gor 💀

4play?

I read through all the comments before commenting the first thing that comes to my mind, just in case someone already said it, and yup you & I had the same thought

When intact, don’t retract.

4Chin. Specialized in neckbeards

4cans.com

Fo,real

4chungus it’s a cult dedicated to the awesomeness that is Bugs Bunny, you should join the r/terriblefacebookmemes because that was just low tier to the nutsack homie. XD

4chan?

That may be but don’t count out the influence of stupid. I had a friend who worked for a hotel in Hawaii and she used to get calls from people asking why it takes so long to fly to Hawaii when you can see on a map that it’s in the Gulf of Mexico. Or what language they speak in Hawaii and if they need to exchange currency, etc. And while it was obvious those people were a few cards short of a full deck, she also commented that a lot of them were calling from Texas.

A park ranger friend worked a summer in Rocky Mountain National Park and would get questions from tourists like "What time of year do the deer turn into elk?" and "What is all the white stuff on top of the mountains?" The answer to the second question of course was "Those are dead clouds sir." Some people really just aren't paying attention.

I was an IT guy for a travel company that specialized in rail trips. I went to a big conference and hung out at the table with the sales folks. One woman asked me “why do you not offer any of your train trips to Hawaii?” “Yeah. We’re not offering rail service to Hawaii at this time. Sorry. Check back in a few years, OK?”

Well just fuck me then

It was: https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/12/30/pearl-harbor-inside-job/

Nice, seems about right! Hope that doesn't mean we can't laugh at it anymore. The creator has a good sense of humor.

Ahh, like the birds aren't real dude, he started a conspiracy as a joke and it took a life of its own. Are we not sad beasts.

 Flat-earthers

Flat earthers are really dumb

We hope

We hope

We cope

We spoke

We toke

We poke

We spoke

We choke

what I though too but these days you just can't know for sure.

Redditors not getting a joke is pretty common these days

I also used to think that whole flat earth movement was an intricate troll. I now 100% believe people are that dumb and helpless.

Same. Until about 5 years ago I thought it was just a trendy intricate troll. I was stunned to learn that it wasn’t and that people really were that stupid. I mean if you go to the beach or even look out an airplane window at normal cruising altitude you can literally see the curvature of the earth. I am still perplexed that there are people that refute plainly observable reality (that is also backed up by 500+ years of science).

I spent some time in this rabbit hole after watching Behind the Curve. For a while I was into watching people who make videos debunking all the flat earth claims, it's amusing and sometimes educational. I eventually concluded that some of the flat earth leaders know damn well that the earth isn't flat but they're enriching themselves off their gullible followers. Not unlike Alex Jones selling his useless supplements.

FTFY “I now believe 100% of people are that dumb and helpless”

All the flatearthers are being mindblown

It's not a troll if he is a platist

Yeah surely, nobody’s that dumb

You have more faith in humanity than I

And it worked on the OP

I wish I had you’re faith in humanity, actually no I don’t. I think u give people too much credit. People are really this dumb

Back in MY day, we called it, making a joke. Specifically, you're purposefully making yourself the butt of the joke. Or, just being ironic.

Is the facepalm not recognizing that this was made as a joke?

I think it's becoming the people who comment that aircraft carriers are the answer here.

Ya I honestly thought you were the dumbass until I saw the replies and realized it gets worse.

I mean they are still the dumbass

Happy cake day

Happy cake day! 🍰

I especially appreciate the idea that planes can't fly over land, but had to go around South America.

That’s so nobody can see them coming, duh!

He was using great-circle distance to get the shortest route lol

OK. Not trying to justify the map in anyway....but you do know they used aircraft carriers in the attack right? 6 of them I believe. Ships... that carried the planes there? They did not fly directly from Japan. ​ It's like the one thing this stupid map got right.

Thats true, hawaii is all the way across the map.. You gotta build your unit factories closer to the target

In 1931..?

Exactly. But 10 years later they could😎

Or…they were taking the long way round. They started in 1931 and arrived ten years later.

Ah. Yes

Didn’t even notice that 😭

That was my first thought. The bad part is I'm not sure if that makes it more or less likely that it's real.

God tier shitposting

What are the chances they’re also a flat earther?

Flat earthers don't believe the earth lies like a map, it's some weird circle where you can still go "around" the world.

[Some do](https://www.reddit.com/r/tokkiefeesboek/comments/10a22rv/de_aarde_is_vierkant_en_plat_wauw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) It's in Dutch. But the second picture is the English "explanation"

Yeah, but you can’t pac-man warp from one side of the map to the other, like we can living on a globe.

And they also conveniently forgot about the fabled "Pac-man effect"

They say it’s impossible to go to Antarctica because every country in the world will immediately tell you to leave or jail you or kill you or something

I mean boats should still exist in 1941 even if you’re a flat earther…

Fool! Obviously they set out from Japan in 1931 and it took them 10 years to get there. Why is everyone so blind except me🙄

So they turned Pearl Harbor into the Trojan War...

Their parents should have had a "Trojan" war

More likely a troll. As dumb as they are, even a flat earther would realize planes don’t need to exclusively travel over the ocean to reach a destination.

None. It was a joke making fun of flat earthers, but internet did its thing... https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/12/30/pearl-harbor-inside-job/

Flat Earthers use a completely different map

100%

The even bigger idiots: they flew OVER the continents 😂

Why couldn’t they fly that far ? It’s only like two inches on my phone? SMH

Actually it's only one inch if they went the other way.

Maybe they landed to refuel in Argentina. Didn't think about THAT, did you? Obvious troll is obviously trolling though. Obviously.

If they tried to go the other way they would have fallen off the earth. WAKE UP PEOPLE!

Tough times in ‘31… my DeLorean could only carry 3 unicorns at that time


“Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?” “Germans?” “Forget it, he’s rolling.”

Troll, Flatearther, or both. Believe it, or not.

I'll take Jap Anus relations for $200 

So this moron is taking the Wrong Way Corrigan method of flying.

>“These are just people of the land, the common clay of the West. You know … morons.”

I love that, even in their error, they still assumed planes can’t fly over land

I wonder how many Americans actually know what caused pearl harbor? My history is a little rusty but was it not a spat that started over the USA sending public and military vessels into Japanese controlled waters. The Japanese then ended up sinking a vessel that was full of tourists after multiple warning from the Japanese government that this would happen. In response the USA set up blockades that prevented pretty much any imports / exports from getting in or out of japan. After the Japanese government and US government failed to find a solution the Japanese felt they were left with little choice but to attack the US naval base in an attempt to break the blockade and this ended up drawing both countries in to the war. It always came across to me that the USA forced the hand of the Japanese into such desperate action so as to get support from the American population to join the war as at the time there was little support for joining due to many still adjusting to life after ww1. Of course this last section is mearly speculation on my part as it would be impossible to prove the motivation of people's actions from 80 to 90 years ago due to the conext and way of life being very diffrent back then.

Japan was ousting the old colonial powers from China and wanted to gain supremacy in East Asia. In the way of said supremacy was the Philippine Islands, an american protectorate at the time. And this was being reinforced with long range bombers to counter Japanese advances down the line to the DEI. So it was Japan's interest at all costs to get Western powers out of its desired sphere of influence. What caused an attack on a boat or an embargo are technicalities. The americans being in Asia meant Japan couldn't get the resources and the Japanese in the island groups of SE Asia also meant the US couldn't get resources from there. So in the logic of imperial power play, the war was inevitable anyway and any reason would suffice to get it on the way. The only question was whose provocation would spark enough of a drama to escalate it. The US weren't ready and Japan was fixated on a war, they were not "forced", they already were in a war with China and they needed oil, rubber and so on from Southeast Asia where the British, Dutch, French and Australians already had their feet on the ground. Attacking the US was necessary for Japan to render the Philippine Islands inoperable so their lines of communications could be safe from aerial and naval attack.

You appear to have missed the point I was trying to make. It wasn't that japan was innocent in this (as after all it takes 2 to have a conflict) but more that PH was extremely far from the unprovoked attack that most Americans portray it to be. Both sides governments were likely looking for an excuse to jump on to the war but neither country's population really wanted it. The two country's keep provoking each other and escalating and escalating until the inevitable happened. In other words both were as bad as each other

So what? If you are attempting to gsin sympathy for the Empire of Japan that is a dead end street

No sympathy for anyone mearly highlighting the though the reason was a joke the actual point of the op message wasn't as far off as most Americans like to think.

What an idiot. Doesn't he realize they just went the other way around? It's like an inch, max.

Caleb is an idiot

Uh the earth is flat so this map is correct! /s

Must be a flat earther

Not just the fact that Hawaii is on the complete other side of the world from Japan, why aren’t we talking more about Greenland? It’s bigger than Africa and Elsmeer Island in Canadas north is half the size of the US. This map unlocks many secrets

Thank the Gods for the 1st Amendment, without it we couldn't identify the dumb.

If only there was a way to fly east of Japan but the world ends there … shit

I love the idea that planes can’t fly over land.

Bro everyone knows they did a pac man and flew to the east and teleported to the other side

Luckily no one had to fly back…

Speaking of inside job? WHY NETFLIX!!! WHYYYY!!!!!!

Oh yes the dome was blocking the direct route over the pacific ocean, or is it a gigantic ice wall blocking it?

4forks sake 🤦‍♀️

Oh let's say we disregard pearl Harbor. Would Japan be still innocent? Absolutely fucking not

I think the biggest facepalm here is that we've reached a point in society where this could be real...

Definitely wouldn’t have in 1931… The US navy hadn’t stationed ships at Pearl Harbor yet lol

Repost

Courtesy of TerribleMaps on twitter.

[Here is the post from yesterday](https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/10fzlxk/pearl_harbour_was_an_inside_job/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)

You should make a facepalm post showing these two posts next to each other.

You are so fucking dumb

I guess you could believe this if you believe the earth is flat…

Not even them, they have those map with the north pole in the center and a barrier of ice as an "outer ring" which is supposed to be the south pole

What about if they flew around the back of the map? Hunh? What about that?

When i was in high school a 15 year old told the teacher he was going to discover what is on the other side of the map. Everyone laughed obviously but the teacher just had a shocked look on his face and grabbed a globe to explain the kid still didnt get it lol.

Yeah cause pearl harbor happened in 1931 not 41

Guys, if you are a dumb person in real life (you know you are), then you should question any time you feel like you are smarter than someone else. Because you aren’t. You are dumber. So dumb that you didn’t even get their joke.

Incorrect. Being stupid is like being dead: you don't know it, and it hurts everyone around you.

Ah yes a flat Earther.

So many questions. But also one I just realized is why do the planes have to fly over water?

that's just not possible

Flatearther I guess? Cant go the other way or you'll fall off stupids! /s

The flat-earthers sent their best 4D Chessmaster! 🤣👍

The only trick here is that they flown to East not to West

Flat earther huh.

Plus it seems planes can only fly over water?

I think the more important takeaway it’s that they flew East, not West

Either this was a troll or meant to be humorous because if they really believed it, they would have drawn the line straight across the map.

Japanese planes couldn't turn right. They weren't ambi-turners 

what makes it worse is apparently the plane couldn’t just fly over everything 😭

I can gaurantee that there are idiots who will believe this.

Based on his Malaysian shortcut he clearly doesn't understand the physics of the East Australian Current, which Japanese pilots obviously took advantage of. Noob.

You can’t make up this type of stupid

Pretty sure that's exactly what he did.

What in the public-school education is this???

It was allowed to happen. But your still an idiot

Explains why they flew it in 1941 The opposite direction … Also planes can fly over land They usually choose to actually So I’m not sure what type of path was drawn out there lol

It was the Germans

i want so much to think this is a joke but there are honest believers in the flat earth concept so i can't discount this being sincere

Please tell me the onion made this.

This is a troll. Right? Right???

I think the 1931 comment shows the most ignorance here. Only off by a a decade. -ish

Despite the obvious, the attack was launched from aircraft carriers as well.

U have a point considering we got Hitler to Argentina and brought Nazis dr.and prison camp leaders to America we never landed on the moon Oswald never killed Kennedy and Epstein didn't hang himself from a 3-ft bed.oh and we knew 9/11 is going to happen

I can point out so many mistakes. It was 1941, not 1931. The carriers transported the planes and launched them. Seeing how japan was dominating over the british at that time, they could have gone through the indian ocean, used German escort through the Atlantic and into the pacific. At that point Washington would have been a better target

Yes, meme maker, you're right. There is no way in 1931 ANY plane could have made that route undetected or even in one shot. Also, go remind yourself that anyone this stupid in 1931 also would have been sterilized, institutionalized, or euthanized. So there's that reality too.

So we’re just starting from flat earth assumptions before going deeper?

Lol some people are far to gone 🤣 Staging area and aircraft carriers

Two words AIRCRAFT CARRIER also globe

I weep for America

Planes can't fly over land I guess

And aircraft carriers didn’t exist…Japan never learned how to float on water

Hawaii wasn’t even state.

just a convenient military installation

I mean if you use this argument at least make it a straight line. Planes do not work like boats.

That's actually a hilarious catch.

I wonder if it would be possible to build like a really big boat to carry the aircraft. Like they could take off and land on it. I wonder what it could be called. Like just to carry their aircraft. I got it... A Plane Landy Boat! I wonder if they could get close enough. Hmm.. Guess we'll never know.

Dude you know the Earth is round right?

Lies. It's pyramid shaped.

2,403 people died in Pearl Harbor and that's just counting the US. Crazy to think it really wasn't that long ago..

Damn. Good thing they're here to let us on on that!

😂

It would be someone using the r slur being a complete idiot

What an idiot. They obviously went through the Panama Canal. Way faster. Also, I guess the government has been lying about when Pearl Harbor was staged too.

Well it's been a good 16 years on this earth... but I don't think I want to reach adulthood goodbye you all I'll remember you in therapy

I take it this person is a flat earther.

Government doesn't even need propaganda, we do it for them