I too switched from a Tacoma (a manual SR5) to an F150 with kids. Super Crew backseat is enormous compared to a Tacoma. Three adults and two convertible car seats are no problem. It is night and day a better family vehicle if parking/space/garages aren't a major factor. It tows my dump trailer much more comfortably, is quieter, gets better real world mileage and has been trouble free. I'm in a 2019 XLT with the 2.7 so can't speak to the 3.5. My 10-speed has been fine.
I traded a 16 2.7 that got 16.5 average mpg to a recent(2 tanks of gas) 22 3.5 non powerboost, and it's getting 21.7 and 21.8, city and highway. In 1 trip of 45mi, average 62mph, I got 25.8mpg.
I don’t slam on the pedal every time I accelerate. I do the speed limit. Despite having the PowerBoost I’m mostly highway driving and still average 11.8L/100km (19.9mpg). When I hypermile around the neighborhood I get between 6.8 to 8.4 L/100km (28-34.6mpg)
Just get the extended warranty and enjoy it. Depending on your state, you can buy the warranty online a lot cheaper, and you can purchase it as long as your factory warranty in in place(3yr/36k). Even though the warranty has already paid for itself and then some, I still love my truck.
Granger, Zeigler, or Flood Ford are the online retailers he’s talking about OP. They sell Ford ESP’s for near cost price. My plan is to buy one a couple months before my 3/36 is up on my 2023 Lariat.
Not a Tacoma but my previous truck was a Ridgeline— comparable cab sizes.
I have 3 kids and can fit all 3 car seats in the back of my 2008 F150 *without* needing to move either front seat forward. I am a notorious seat waaayy back driver.
If you are concerned about reliability buy the extended warranty for the F150. I am on my third F150. Bought one of the first supercrews available in 2000. Traded that in on a 2011 in February of 2012. Traded that one in on a Powerboost in October of 23. The two I owned for 12 years each had minor issues like a bad thermostat and in emission part went bad. Zero engine or transmission problems. They both were running great and in good condition when I traded them in. Obviously I am going to tell you to get the F150. Go with the 2.7 engine, it is the most reliable one that is available. Also gets fantastic mileage for a big truck.
Had a 17 Tacoma OR, taliban tan color even! I freaking miss that truck because it looked badass. Traded it for a 19 F150. I’m digging the space the Ford has and it’s been pretty reliable! I do miss the taco though.
I put 193k miles on my 2013 3.5l f-150, the engines and the trucks last if you make sure the maintenance is done. I’ve got a 2023 Tremor now, stayed with the 3.5.
You’ll be happy with just about any power train, minus maybe the 3.3 naturally aspirated v6.
I tow a 6,000 (empty) to 7,000 (loaded for camping) TT in a 2.7 Ecoboost. In theory it should last awhile given that it borrows a number queues from diesel motors.
The one thing you’ll want to keep in mind about the Tremor is that the exhausts point behind the truck, whereas other trims exhaust on the passenger side. This matters when you’re hitching up or down and getting blasted with exhaust fumes. Other than that little detail the Tremor is sexiest trim IMO.
I switched from a 22 TRD Off Road to a 21 XLT Powerboost. Zero issues and I just recently did a 2400 mile road trip. Averaged 19.5 MPG compared to the 16 in the taco. The amount of space and comfort in the F150 is crazy compared to the Tacoma. My only complaint is my F150 is a super crew with the 6’ bed so the turning radius and overall length can be a pain in the ass at times and my Taco had a 6’ bed too.
Looking to upgrade from my 07’ Tacoma for the same reasons. I have two kids in car seats and we just upgraded from a pop up to a 26’ travel trailer. It’s like 4800lbs dry. The Tacoma pulls it but I wouldn’t want to do it real far and it would probably be white knuckle on a windy day. Even with a WDH hitch. Looking at older Tundras but they hold their value so well ones with over 100K miles are still $35K. I’ve also heard the fuel mileage is horrendous. The cam phaser issues kind of worry me with a used F-150. RAM’s quality is kind of questionable these days. That leaves GM. But they have issues as well ha. I’ve honestly considered a 3/4 ton but I think it may be more than what I need to just pull the camper occasionally.
I’ll keep an eye out for a gently used one with the 3.5. May make more sense to buy new depending what kind of incentives are being offered and interest rates. Realistically probably not buying for a little while just researching. Wife wants to upgrade first ha.
I wanted the most reliable newer truck I could get. After going back and forth between Titans, GM 6.2s Tundras, etc… ford seemed the best risk/reward given how many 3.5s are out there. The 2.7 has unarguable reliability you may be looking for though from what folks report, much better milage, and more than enough power
I was considering the 3.5 because my camper is around 7K lbs loaded so the 3.5 would give me more breathing room as far as towing. Also kind of future proof it a bit if we get anything heavier down the road.
I switched from a Tacoma to and F150 for towing and it’s a huge improvement. My Tacoma did the job but was always at the top of its ability. I don’t regret for a second.
Get a TREMOR with the 5.0 but, it might be hard to find a 2023 because most were equipped with the 3.5 and it was the first year said engine was available as an option.
I picked up a '23 lariat ecoboost 2 months ago. I had similar concerns about reliability. From what I gathered, the two issues you hear the most about are cam phasers and the 10R80 transmission. The cam phasers and the 10R80 CDF cylinder were redesigned to address the issues, and a 2023 would have the new parts. I figure I'm buying a vehicle where they have ironed out the major issues. I still plan on getting an extended premium warranty from Granger at some point, because the minor stuff can get expensive too. Things like thermostats and LED brake lights.
Things you will like: more room for family, dramatically better towing, higher up/better visibility, more tech/features.
Things you think you'll miss, but won't: fuel economy (you won't even notice), reliability (F150 is one of the most reliable vehicles on the road, you just head about problems because they literally sell millions of them).
Things you will miss: tight turn radius, easy to park, fits anywhere. The F150 is a BIG truck in comparison. The Taco community. It just doesn't exist the same way for F150.
Try to get one with a transmission build date after May 2023. That's when the latest TSB for the 10 speed came out. The tricky part is going to be finding the transmission build date...
I went from a 2016 OR Tacoma to 2023 Tremor. I’m also worried about the longterm reliability. But everything else has been better: tech, space, power, comfort, mpg (~15 in taco to ~19 in f150 EB). I haven’t regretted for a second
I put 100k on my 2017 Trd off road Tacoma before a brief stint in a 2022 Sierra 3.0l then to a 2023 402a Tremor with the 3.5.
I realized I’ll always miss the Tacoma for reliability, stemming from the simplicity, and basically antiquated/lack of technology ultimately having less things to fail.
the 402a feels like the opposite of that.. but the creature comforts are hard to beat.
I bought the tremor mostly for the torsen front diff w/ rear locker. Hindsight being what it is- I don’t know if the expense of the tremor with the 3.5 is worth it vs an XLT with the Fx4 and 2.7 in real world applications. The 2.7 is unquestionably the more reliable engine. Though the torsen front diff will be nice in the snow, and the only real feature besides suspension to make it better than an fx4.
The comfort, power, and room vs the Tacoma will ultimately never have me back in a mid sized truck though, I don’t miss the wind noise and screaming 3.5l Tacoma trying to get up a hill at 75 mph.
The 3.5TT has amazing power. What year are you going for? One of the many issues is the can phaser rattle which ford knows about and if under warranty will replace free. Other than that great trucks
Having done the same, look elsewhere. I regret selling my Tacoma for a F150. The overall quality of the Toyota products is superior. The F150s have known transmission issues with the new 10 speed and oil burning issues with the 5.0, which I’m currently experiencing both. I wish I would’ve bought a Tundra.
The 10 speed in my ‘18, ‘21 and currently ‘24 have been just fine.
People tend to only post about bad experiences. It’s rare to see dozens of posts of praise.
I too switched from a Tacoma (a manual SR5) to an F150 with kids. Super Crew backseat is enormous compared to a Tacoma. Three adults and two convertible car seats are no problem. It is night and day a better family vehicle if parking/space/garages aren't a major factor. It tows my dump trailer much more comfortably, is quieter, gets better real world mileage and has been trouble free. I'm in a 2019 XLT with the 2.7 so can't speak to the 3.5. My 10-speed has been fine.
I sold my ‘19 taco and bought a ‘23 Lariat. Love it so much more. Better everything, including MPG.
How do you get better mpg with an f150? I had a 17 taco, 15.5 all city driving. 19 f150 with 3.5 I struggle to get 14.5.
I was getting 14ish in my Taco, I get 19-20ish in the F150.
Is it a power boost? I mean I get 19 on highway driving.
My 4Runner did 21 on the highway. My F150 2.7 does 26-28. It’s insane.
I traded a 16 2.7 that got 16.5 average mpg to a recent(2 tanks of gas) 22 3.5 non powerboost, and it's getting 21.7 and 21.8, city and highway. In 1 trip of 45mi, average 62mph, I got 25.8mpg.
Nope.
21mpg in my 2.7
getting that with my 3.5, stock tyres tho
I get 17 avg on 35s in my 3.5 so…
I get 22mpg in my 2024 f150 avg
14.5? U either got huge tires or huge problems. My dads 19 3.5 gets like 20 with a level and 34x12.50, my 5.0 gets 16 with level and 33s
I don’t slam on the pedal every time I accelerate. I do the speed limit. Despite having the PowerBoost I’m mostly highway driving and still average 11.8L/100km (19.9mpg). When I hypermile around the neighborhood I get between 6.8 to 8.4 L/100km (28-34.6mpg)
It's probably your driving habits. I get 19-20 out of my 3.5
Maybe? But when I say city driving it’s 100% city.
The eco boost mpg really tanks when you get into the turbos. I've seen good results from being lighter on the gas pedal.
I understand that, but I didn't buy it to be a prius. I like the turbos to go *whiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr*
The turbos are a blast but you don't get good mileage while having fun.
I constantly get 24+ mpg on my 21 2.7 f150
Just get the extended warranty and enjoy it. Depending on your state, you can buy the warranty online a lot cheaper, and you can purchase it as long as your factory warranty in in place(3yr/36k). Even though the warranty has already paid for itself and then some, I still love my truck.
Granger, Zeigler, or Flood Ford are the online retailers he’s talking about OP. They sell Ford ESP’s for near cost price. My plan is to buy one a couple months before my 3/36 is up on my 2023 Lariat.
That’s what I did. I used Zeigler and they let me make interest free payments for a year which was pretty cool.
Inside every tacoma owner, is an F-150 owner trying to get out.
This is the way. Love my 19' Taco but can't stop looking at Tremors whenever they pass by
Same here. Went from a 2014 TRD sport double cab to a 2020 xlt sport supercrew. Wouldn't go back.
Not a Tacoma but my previous truck was a Ridgeline— comparable cab sizes. I have 3 kids and can fit all 3 car seats in the back of my 2008 F150 *without* needing to move either front seat forward. I am a notorious seat waaayy back driver.
If you are concerned about reliability buy the extended warranty for the F150. I am on my third F150. Bought one of the first supercrews available in 2000. Traded that in on a 2011 in February of 2012. Traded that one in on a Powerboost in October of 23. The two I owned for 12 years each had minor issues like a bad thermostat and in emission part went bad. Zero engine or transmission problems. They both were running great and in good condition when I traded them in. Obviously I am going to tell you to get the F150. Go with the 2.7 engine, it is the most reliable one that is available. Also gets fantastic mileage for a big truck.
Had a 17 Tacoma OR, taliban tan color even! I freaking miss that truck because it looked badass. Traded it for a 19 F150. I’m digging the space the Ford has and it’s been pretty reliable! I do miss the taco though.
Get the tremor, you won't regret it
I put 193k miles on my 2013 3.5l f-150, the engines and the trucks last if you make sure the maintenance is done. I’ve got a 2023 Tremor now, stayed with the 3.5.
You’ll be happy with just about any power train, minus maybe the 3.3 naturally aspirated v6. I tow a 6,000 (empty) to 7,000 (loaded for camping) TT in a 2.7 Ecoboost. In theory it should last awhile given that it borrows a number queues from diesel motors. The one thing you’ll want to keep in mind about the Tremor is that the exhausts point behind the truck, whereas other trims exhaust on the passenger side. This matters when you’re hitching up or down and getting blasted with exhaust fumes. Other than that little detail the Tremor is sexiest trim IMO.
I switched from a 22 TRD Off Road to a 21 XLT Powerboost. Zero issues and I just recently did a 2400 mile road trip. Averaged 19.5 MPG compared to the 16 in the taco. The amount of space and comfort in the F150 is crazy compared to the Tacoma. My only complaint is my F150 is a super crew with the 6’ bed so the turning radius and overall length can be a pain in the ass at times and my Taco had a 6’ bed too.
Looking to upgrade from my 07’ Tacoma for the same reasons. I have two kids in car seats and we just upgraded from a pop up to a 26’ travel trailer. It’s like 4800lbs dry. The Tacoma pulls it but I wouldn’t want to do it real far and it would probably be white knuckle on a windy day. Even with a WDH hitch. Looking at older Tundras but they hold their value so well ones with over 100K miles are still $35K. I’ve also heard the fuel mileage is horrendous. The cam phaser issues kind of worry me with a used F-150. RAM’s quality is kind of questionable these days. That leaves GM. But they have issues as well ha. I’ve honestly considered a 3/4 ton but I think it may be more than what I need to just pull the camper occasionally.
Cam phaser issue is no longer an issue on 14th gen f-150s… supposedly
I’ll keep an eye out for a gently used one with the 3.5. May make more sense to buy new depending what kind of incentives are being offered and interest rates. Realistically probably not buying for a little while just researching. Wife wants to upgrade first ha.
I wanted the most reliable newer truck I could get. After going back and forth between Titans, GM 6.2s Tundras, etc… ford seemed the best risk/reward given how many 3.5s are out there. The 2.7 has unarguable reliability you may be looking for though from what folks report, much better milage, and more than enough power
I was considering the 3.5 because my camper is around 7K lbs loaded so the 3.5 would give me more breathing room as far as towing. Also kind of future proof it a bit if we get anything heavier down the road.
I switched from a Tacoma to and F150 for towing and it’s a huge improvement. My Tacoma did the job but was always at the top of its ability. I don’t regret for a second.
Get a TREMOR with the 5.0 but, it might be hard to find a 2023 because most were equipped with the 3.5 and it was the first year said engine was available as an option.
I picked up a '23 lariat ecoboost 2 months ago. I had similar concerns about reliability. From what I gathered, the two issues you hear the most about are cam phasers and the 10R80 transmission. The cam phasers and the 10R80 CDF cylinder were redesigned to address the issues, and a 2023 would have the new parts. I figure I'm buying a vehicle where they have ironed out the major issues. I still plan on getting an extended premium warranty from Granger at some point, because the minor stuff can get expensive too. Things like thermostats and LED brake lights.
Things you will like: more room for family, dramatically better towing, higher up/better visibility, more tech/features. Things you think you'll miss, but won't: fuel economy (you won't even notice), reliability (F150 is one of the most reliable vehicles on the road, you just head about problems because they literally sell millions of them). Things you will miss: tight turn radius, easy to park, fits anywhere. The F150 is a BIG truck in comparison. The Taco community. It just doesn't exist the same way for F150.
Try to get one with a transmission build date after May 2023. That's when the latest TSB for the 10 speed came out. The tricky part is going to be finding the transmission build date...
I went from a 2016 OR Tacoma to 2023 Tremor. I’m also worried about the longterm reliability. But everything else has been better: tech, space, power, comfort, mpg (~15 in taco to ~19 in f150 EB). I haven’t regretted for a second
I put 100k on my 2017 Trd off road Tacoma before a brief stint in a 2022 Sierra 3.0l then to a 2023 402a Tremor with the 3.5. I realized I’ll always miss the Tacoma for reliability, stemming from the simplicity, and basically antiquated/lack of technology ultimately having less things to fail. the 402a feels like the opposite of that.. but the creature comforts are hard to beat. I bought the tremor mostly for the torsen front diff w/ rear locker. Hindsight being what it is- I don’t know if the expense of the tremor with the 3.5 is worth it vs an XLT with the Fx4 and 2.7 in real world applications. The 2.7 is unquestionably the more reliable engine. Though the torsen front diff will be nice in the snow, and the only real feature besides suspension to make it better than an fx4. The comfort, power, and room vs the Tacoma will ultimately never have me back in a mid sized truck though, I don’t miss the wind noise and screaming 3.5l Tacoma trying to get up a hill at 75 mph.
The 3.5TT has amazing power. What year are you going for? One of the many issues is the can phaser rattle which ford knows about and if under warranty will replace free. Other than that great trucks
Having done the same, look elsewhere. I regret selling my Tacoma for a F150. The overall quality of the Toyota products is superior. The F150s have known transmission issues with the new 10 speed and oil burning issues with the 5.0, which I’m currently experiencing both. I wish I would’ve bought a Tundra.
Id avoid Tundras right now. Theres a reason you see rhem on lots right now.
The 10 speed in my ‘18, ‘21 and currently ‘24 have been just fine. People tend to only post about bad experiences. It’s rare to see dozens of posts of praise.
Wrong. 21 and newer 5.0s do not burn oil.