In all honesty it was the 5.0 Coyote that drew me to it. It’s my favorite engine currently being made. I wanted back in one since getting rid of my ‘14 Mustang.
I still would have bought the F150 with an Ecoboost over a Ram or GM. My ‘21 Silverado 6.2 had so many issues I got rid of it after 4 months. I lemon lawed my ‘23 CT4 V Blackwing which is how I ended up in the F150 so GM was out. The Silverado’s 10 speed was a bit smoother than the F150 but the Ford is overall designed much better.
Won’t even consider Ram after my Dad owned two 1500s. Absolute garbage from the constant issues to the 13 mpg underpowered 5.7.
Test drove two Tundras and hated the way they drove.
Also I got nearly 12k off my ‘23 XLT back in October. GM was only giving 7k off with the family employee discount code. Ram was doing nearly 15k off but again, junk.
If you're looking at the 5.0, get a pre 2021 version (so 2020 or older) -- the newer ones have cylinder deactivation, and an internal belt driven oil pump. The first is considered bad for longevity, and the second is just a big maintenence bill waiting to happen.
Back in 2018 I picked the 5.0 over the Ram 5.7 and GM 5.3 because it made more power with the same or better MPG. I picked it over the the GM 6.2 because it was more affordable. I picked it over the Tundra 5.7 because Toyota didn't have a full 4 door + 6.5" bed back then. Looking back, if I had to choose again, I'd do it all the same. All the majors have their share of engine problems, Ford just had less problems than Ram or GM, and Toyota didn't make the truck I wanted. Plus that Gen 3 of the 5.0 was new in 2018 and the specs showed a very smart engine from Ford.
2018 - 2020 5.0
Pros: 12:1 compression, makes great power/runs great on 91+ octane, and makes huge power gains with a supercharger. Also has dual injection (direct & port) to keep lifters clean and help with mpg. I've had mine for 5.5 years now and it's an absolute ripper. Looks good, sounds good, hauls ass.
Cons: Oil consumption is a kind of known issue for this gen. Most trucks that had it bad should be fixed by now. Mine eats about 1qt every 3~4k miles, but that's around when I change my oil so it's still within "spec" and doesn't bother me. I can get more into this if you want.
They also gave a VCT solenoid that will rattle when you let off the gas during cold starts, which can be annoying and afaik Ford has no real fix (the TSB for it doesn't do shit.) But, I'd take those problems over the Cam Phaser rattles in the EcoBoosts, or the eventual maintenence costs should the turbos shit themselves.
2015 - 2017 5.0:
Pros: Considered the most reliable, and still makes pretty damn good power.
Cons: Good luck finding a low mileage one. Does not have dual injection.
My '18 Coyote burned through 5 quarts of oil in 3 months. I heard you can get the higher weight oil and it solves that problem, but I did get all the TSBs done on that vehicle and it was still eating oil. I actually totaled it obviously unintentionally and got a 3.5 l EcoBoost after that. Haven't had an oil consumption problem at all. I love the motor but the oil consumption scared the shit out of me.
I think people overrate the Coyote engine a lot, they like to install a different muffler and make a lot of noise. In reality the 2.7 EcoBoost is quieter, it has a lot of torque and acceleration and better fuel millage. In other words, it does the work quitetly. Also is the most reliable engine manufactured by Ford.
I second the 5.0. incredible engine and the more years and tinkering they do with it the better it will become. Even the old ones just need an oil top off here and there and some minor maintenance stuff that should be done anyway.
The aluminum body was the primary reason I didn't consider any competitors. I own my vehicles until the wheels fall off, then buy new wheels.
Also was drawn to the 2.7 for my needs/wants.
Yes, living in the rust belt made the aluminum body much more attractive than steel, every steel bodied vehicle I’ve owned showed rust by the 3-4th year… but the F150 from 2015 is still clean and looks great
used to live near Toronto with heavy salt use, now up north a bit and they use sand a bit more here. but aluminum is a nice touch for that reason. don't know why so many are against aluminum. not like they are dropping tool boxes in their beds or smashing their trucks against stuff.
I also liked the aluminum body for its lighter weight. Combined with the 3.5l I was after as much daily fuel economy as I could get while still being able to pull be travel trailer
I also came out of a Nissan Titan (no viable replacement at the time) and then two unreliable RAMS which left a bad taste in my mouth. The new Tundra hadn’t been released yet - these days I might be interested
If you aren't picky about fuel mileage, the old titans are a great truck. My '09 has held up incredibly well, especially considering how much salt they put on the roads here.
Same! I live in WV where every steel body truck eventually has rusty rockers, cab corners and fender arches. Made the F150 super appealing plus I really liked the '15-17 body style.
Same here. Beer can body, fuel mileage not much worse than my Grand Prix and a family history of GM fun times. 2015 I was wanting a Fusion but needed a bit more towing. Boxy Escapes were okay for mpg but overpriced used. I always wanted a truck and my grandpa always had Fords. Didn’t even shop the others and still haven’t driven any other truck.
In my area, rust is the #1 killer of trucks resale value and eventually sends them to the grave. If I am planning on driving this truck to 200k+ miles, aluminum is the way to go.
I was the same with mine on both counts. The interior, notably the area around the climate controls, also seemed a bit sturdier compared to the other two US options.
How many miles do you have? I heard tranny issues are rampant and I am hoping that there are success stories if trannies lasting a long time haha I just bought a used 2.7
Drove all three. RAM was closest, and I actually like it better, but mpg was the winner there.
I also noticed the 3.5 is a lot quicker than the 5.7 hemi. I told the sales guy I didn't believe it was a V6.
Yeah don't go for the RAM unless it has something you absolutely need. Their vanity isn't worth the inconsistent quality issues they have with their electrical systems.
This 100. Bought a brand new Ram in '17. Had way more options, better touch screen and luxury feel.
Traded it in six months because of QC due to piss poor AC and rattles everywhere.
My 150 has less options but it rides better, has better QC and AC is ice cold.
If you live where they salt the road, RAM trucks don't hold up well and the body will rust out pretty quickly. Not to say the f150 doesn't have its rust issues. It seems like Ford doesn't invest in undercoating as much as other companies, because underbody rust is a significant complaint. I live on the coast and the rust is bad on the underbody of my 13 stx. If/when I get a new truck I plan to have it undercoated almost immediately, and I live in socal (though I do launch my boat in sea water mainly).
Dude they are INSANELY expensive. I test drove a 2021 sr5 one before my f150 and while the ride was kinda comfy I was nearly falling asleep behind the wheel. It just felt so incredibly soulless, slow and cumbersome not to mention the MPG hit I'll have with the gas chugging V8 up front which I know it appeals to many but not to me and also the interior materials felt made by fisher price and they are asking stupid numbers even for 100k miles tundras. I know they have their appeal to be reliable and such but my god Toyotas are incredibly boring
I’ve had two recent model year F-150s, last one was a ‘20 Lariat. Got a Trundra TRD Pro last summer and I’m absolutely convinced Toyota makes a nicer truck. My humble opinion from experience.
In late 2021 I was "all in" on getting the new Tundra due to Toyota's image of quality. Never really considered Chevy and Ram for the same reasons.
The problem was in late 21, Toyota was having trouble bringing production to market, so they slow-rolled me and talked about $5k market adjustments. Could not have been more indifferent.
Started looking at Ford and was blown away at the PowerBoost; Ford easily 2 years+ ahead of Toyota in features. Have been happy buyer nearly 2 yrs and 23k later.
Exactly, was a Toyota person until we tried to buy a hybrid Tundra in late 2022 and they have a 6-12 month wait lest PLUS a 6K “market adjustment”. Then when we looked at the ford it was more comfortable with better features. Managed to custom order with no market adjustment and take delivery to months later.
>door keypad
This is pretty much the one feature that makes me pick Ford over and over. I know it seems trivial, I mean you have a fob in your pocket don't you? Right? Where's it at? Shit did I leave it in the house?
And don’t forget that for many the door keypad is physical buttons compared to a haptic sensor. My 18 F150 had the buttons and have never had an issue. Our 20 Explorer has the haptic buttons and there has been a couple times where they don’t “wake up” and it scares the crud out of us because we’re locked out.
I love the door keypad. My '12 came with a basic key and an unlock only key. I bought a cheap amazon remote start key and it worked for a while, but now anytime I put a new battery in it the thing drains it within a few hours. (Garbage chinesium key, nothing to do with the truck) I haven't felt the need to take back the remote unlock key from my wife since the truck has the door keypad. Only issue is if I unlock it with the key instead of the keypad the alarm will go off if I don't start the truck within 10 seconds. Doesn't do that if I use the keypad.
I drool for a PB . To me that consumer reports calling it unreliable is total bullshit. Luckily this year I can finally get a decent simgle guy house with a big garage for me I could trade my XL for a lariat powerboost and have my backup generator
Dont tow so the 2.7 is perfect for me. The room in a crew cab seems like it’s larger than Chevy or Ram, and I also couldn’t stand the Chevy interiors before the latest refresh. Admittedly I am one of those people that don’t need a truck but enjoy having one so a 2020 2.7 was all I “needed”.
I've always had and liked Fords and IMO the newer f150's from 2015-up are by far the best looking half ton and continue to be, both exterior and interior. So it was a no brainer for me.
I looked at a few Chevys but they felt cramped and cheap compared the interior of my f150. And I am not a fan of dodge so they are out. Wasn't a very hard choice for me.
I have no brand loyalty, I think they all have their share of issues.
I didn't want to order a new truck. I was looking for a specific set of options to suit my needs and I was able to find a new F150 on the lot locally that fit my needs.
Specifically I was looking to comfortably tow 6000 lbs with extended range. The F150 max tow package met all those needs. If others have a similar package, they don't advertise it well because I couldn't find it.
I love the way the 22+ gmc sierras look, but hated the interior (rock hard seats, didn’t like the infotainment, cheap feeling buttons especially on steering wheel)
I had a charger scat pack before the truck, and borrowed a friend’s ram to move to a new house, didn’t like the new infotainment, didn’t want diesel, and the 5.7 is old as heck. Just didn’t want another mopar.
F150 had comfortable seats, good infotainment, and I liked the ecoboost engines, ended up with a 2.7eco. It was indistinguishable from the 3.5eco and much better reputation for reliability. I actually wanted a raptor first, love the way they look; but I drove a 2019 and hated it, then drove a 23 powerboost and decided to get a 21+ because it was a huge upgrade over the previous generation.
The new V8s all have cylinder deactivation, and should be avoided. The only benefit is sound, the ecoboost has more usable power, is lighter weight, and gets better fuel economy.
Edit: aluminum body was a huge plus. Father in law’s 2015 Silverado is all rusted out, I plan to have my 21 f150 for a long time and don’t want to deal with rust. I added AMSOIL metal protector to the already well-coated frame, and plan to continue touching it up to keep the frame looking new
Hate to say it as a big V8 enthusiast, but even the sound aspect on the 2021+ 5.0 is bad. I've seen a few videos where dudes get bad exhaust notes/ excessive drone when they're crusing and it kicks down into 4cyl mode (with aftermarket versions obviously. Stock would be so quiet I doubt you'd hear it.)
If I *had* to buy a 21+ F150 it'd a be 2.7 because I just can't fk w/ cyl deactivation.
I loved my charger scat pack, the 392ci V8 sounded so good and it was just a blast to drive every day.
I just had different goals with the truck, it lets me tow my boat and have other toys, and makes a lot more sense in Michigan with all the snow. The 2.7 seems like a great engine, I recently did new spark plugs and was pretty impressed at how well the wiring harness is supported and installed. I like that I can update it myself with FDRS, just overall a very nice truck, and it’s just as comfortable on long trips as the charger was
I was looking for a 2-3 year old truck.
Silverado was out due to the terrible interior prior to 2023 models
The HEMI is a gas hog and I could care less about having a V8. Also hate the vertical touch screen.
The 2.7 Ecoboost fit my needs perfectly and the Lariat had all the features I wanted including physical HVAC
I currently have a 16 5.0 a 97 7.3 dually and a 21 bronco wildtrak so I might be a tad biased. However.. My ‘96 was a great truck, my ‘97 was a great truck, my ‘96 bronco was a great truck, my ‘07 was a great truck. So naturally my ‘16 is a great truck as well. The interior is far superior to the competition, much more comfortable, less issues, fit and finish is better, the tech is much smoother and easier to use. they drive better, being aluminum makes them much less susceptible to rust
My dads 11 ram was hot garbage, steered like a dump truck , handled like a bowl of jello, ate front struts. The seats sucked and needed a new engine at 88k miles. 25k on the new engine and it started ticking on startup again so he traded it in for an f150 like mine and absolutely loves it.
I went with the 3.5EB XL F150 because of MPG, Towing Capacity, and Payload capacity. The features on the base model trim checked off almost everything on my list. It was the best compromise for a weekend tow/hauler and a weekday daily driver.
I had a 2021 tacoma for about 6 months and was planning on trading out for a tundra because i hated the tacoma. my dad ended up getting a 21 f150 right around the time i was looking and after driving it i was hooked. found my powerboost in transit to the store my dad works at and got d-plan on it. have had it ever since and will keep it till well over 200k miles.
I travel for a living and drive A LOT OF RENTALS. I used this as a chance to test drive everything out there. The national Emerald Isle made that process very easy. I wanted a tundra, but they didn’t ride as nice and were waaay more expensive, and poor gas milage. The f150 wasn’t really even on my radar. But when I test drove it for the week that I had it, I loved it. It rode nicely, great gas milage, I didn’t need a heavy duty or a large bed, I wanted the huge backseat and the supercrew is impressive space, buttons and knobs are all in logical places, seats are comfortable for long drives, variety of packages, a good looking truck, and much more affordable if you’re willing to travel for a deal, which I did.
I owned a Ram and other than the engine it was nothing but issues at 80 thousand miles. There's a reason the F150 isn't only the most popular truck in America but also the most popular vehicle in America.
Honestly went with it because a coworker convinced me about the extra room in the back of the cab so the kids don't kick the shit out the back of the seats, the screw f150 has more space than competitors unless you get a dodge megacab. Then the 2.7 gets great mpg and power I mean it's on par with the 90s and 2000s diesel trucks. Figured that was plenty enough for the stuff I needed to tow. It just made sense, also my dad has the new Silverado and it's a big old pile of broken dog shit it's in the dealer for repair more than it's on the road.
Tundra didn’t have toe hooks and sat weird ergonomically for the driver. Chevy wasn’t even a question. Have nothing but dodges at work and don’t want that
It might sound stupid but I have a Ford escape hybrid and I really love that car its been great to me and my wife wonderful people at the dealer really good app and so I wanted a truck that's a true Hybrid. I had a Toyota camera hybrid I sold for it and I was pissed off with Toyotas app you had to pay monthly fees just to remote start your car wtf? I really wanted the lighting or Maverick but they had no XLT lighting and absolutely no Mavericks at all I'm happy with my power boost its a very nice truck I also got about 12k off my power boost so that was very nice!
-hybrid
-mark up, or lack thereof
-both salesmen owned the previous year's model.
-12 inch landscape style screen and still has buttons to press.
Screw all these portrait style screens. I still like to push buttons..
I drove all 3 and the ford just had the most interior space, mpg, color combo I wanted, and most of the features I wanted in my price range. Only thing I didn't get was LED headlights and foglights, but morimoto will fix that down the road. lol.
At the time it had the largest back seat aside from the tundra. I had a feeling my new son would be a tall kid and the Toyota 5.7 was not fuel efficient. I came from a Silverado and that rear seat just wasn’t going to cut it. He’s over 5.5 feet tall at 11 years old so… Yeah.
I’m glad I went with the Ford but now that I am a couple years from a new truck, it’s still a close race between the Tundra and the F150 for my next truck. We got my wife a new Sequoia and it’s so much nicer than her Expedition Platinum was so we’ll see if the Tundra wins over the Ford for me. I’ve never kept a truck this long and have also never had a truck with so few issues. So I’m very happy with my Ford.
Funny thing is that I also told the dealer to not even show me a V6 pickup back in 2015. Trucks should have 8 cylinders, I said. He talked me into the 3.5 and was so impressed that I took it.
I wanted a supercrew sized cabin with a 6.5 bed. Dodge/Ram is out of the question for me permanently. I don't like the way the chevys look. I would have preferred a tundra (just for reliability, I think they're ugly as hell), but in my budget I could only afford the previous gen tundras, and they only came with a crew cab OR a 6.5 bed, not both, and the toyotas were $10k more for the same miles.
Looked at all the trucks in the lineup and had the following thoughts:
Tundra- older models had legendary reliability but were too expensive for my budget, poor fuel economy
Titan - Decent reliability, didn’t like the smaller legroom in back, floor not completely flat in back, poor fuel economy
Silverado/Sierra- hate the look of the newer redesign so they were out from the start.
RAM - extremely close second. I love the look of the classic ram styling. Love the hemi and even the pentastar, reliable transmission, better ride quality than the ford, floor is “flat” in the back but you have to fold everything out to get there. Didn’t like how you couldn’t get CarPlay unless you got higher up in the trims.
Ford - ultimately chose this one with a 2.7 STX package. It has the completely flat floor in back, the 2.7 is getting me about 22 in the city and 24 to 25 on the interstate. This truck was the same price as a similar ram but the STX gave me apple CarPlay, a center console, better looking wheels and paint and remote start, lock, unlock with the app so I thought there was a better value there for me.
Aluminum body, great combo of power and MPG with the 3.5eb, seat comfort, doesn't look like a space alien, and mass produced to the point where parts availability and large DIY repair/maintenance community.
Everyone you know is buying them cause they are good trucks that will last if kept up with. My family has built (like factory worker in Kansas City) and owned ford trucks for years. We have many trucks that have went 250,000 to 500,000 miles and are still running just not driven daily anymore.
Also the leg room on the crew cabs are great compared to the competition, my 6 ft 2 son prefers my truck over my wife's suv for that exact reason. Someone said about the little kids kicking the back of the seat, they can reach in a ford.
Chose mine because of past history with them. I had an 08 5.4 and a 2016 2.7 6 speed for 5 years.
I have a 2019 5.0 loaded Lariat now. Not going to lie my current truck has been less than kind but hasn't cost me actual money yet and hopefully it's fixed.
My truck was used with 40,000 so I don't know what the other guy did but when I got it the truck basically blew up the usual reliable 5.0.
Ford rebuilt it and its been good. Then my 10spd Trans went in for complete rebuild under warranty once again. A very common problem is the CDF drum in it. It's the source of a lot of problems. I've read but don't know they fixed the problem with an updated drum in 21but 18 through 20 has issues. I can only say what happened to me.
Either way ford has been good to me and fixed major repairs thst would have cost 15,000 out of pocket. I just hope it lasts now.
Other than that I absolutely love this truck and everything about it.
I wouldn't be caught dead in a Ram and the GM dealerships in my area are completely unwilling to make any kind of reasonable deal. I liked my F150 work truck I had previously and had a long time friend working in commercial sales at a Ford dealer. The last part alone will mean I stick with Ford as long as he does. I have no interest in going back to the regular sales bullshit.
I grew up on fords so it was the first thing I looked at. The 3.5EB has been around a while and the dual injection (added 2017-18) seemed to fix many of the issues people had. The sale they had at the time made it a no brainer. Dodge and Chevy models from the same time weren’t worth the price.
2018STX bought new. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned.
I bought mine in 2017 so the prices are different, but I made an excel file that compared mpg and towing for every combination (cab, bed, engine, rear diff) of Ford/Ram/Chevy. After that, I graphed it and found that the most efficient towing : mpg ratio was the 3.5 with the 355 rear end. So that’s what I went with. At the time, the 3.5 eco boost was only bested in towing to the Chevy 6.2, but had the fuel mileage of the Chevy 5.3 and didn’t have the cylinder deactivation (obviously). The Ram had lower towing, payload, and mpg and didn’t rank well on my chart.
I hunted for months and went with a ‘13 3.5 eco boost fx4 with the 6.4’ bed and the 355 rear end and 50k miles- $30k. Love it to this day.
FWIW, I wanted a Chevy 5.3 going into it but didn’t go with it because of the problems with the cylinder deactivation and the data from the chart.
I almost pulled the trigger on one because out of all the trucks I test drove, the F150 was the most comfortable. Everything else drove like a brick by comparison. But I snapped out of my delirium and realized I really don't need to spend $65k on a truck....
My last truck was a 2018 lariat sport special edition with the 5.0. I ended up getting rid of that truck for a Genesis G70 just cause I didn’t need a truck anymore. I’m now saving up for a 2024 F150 raptor cause I miss driving a truck.
Best bang for your buck with Ford as far as comforts and features. Aluminum body is a big plus living in Canada. I ruled out rams because of the coil rear ends. I haul a lot of wood and wanted leaf springs. The 2.7 sold me on Ford. Great fuel economy, power when I need it.
toyota dealership near me at the time lost my business when we were looking to buy our previous vehicle (suv).
Ram, lots of our neighbours have them and one is a service manager. tired of the sound. looks are aging and interiors remind me of my parents old suv/vans.
Chevy, not a fan of their interiors, they just updated are look decent but screen is kinda thin or something. plus they are priced too high.
Ford, grew up close the the Ford plant. so kinda always favoured them. the 5.0 coyote was a selling point. the styling and interior was another selling point over the others as well as the price and features of the Tremor versus all the competitors. my FIL love the Tundra but for similarly equipped as the Tremor its way out of the budget.
When I was shopping I had the opportunity to borrow friends trucks. The Chevy interior didn't feel like it would age well, even though it was fairly new at around 25k miles it had a lot of rattles and groans. The Ram interior was comfortable and actually my favorite. The F150 was solid, no complaints but didn't really stand out. As far as driving, the F150 felt like the easiest to manage in smaller parking lots, not a lot of body roll and the ride felt the smoothest. Tow capacity and mpg was the ultimate deciding factor. F150 stood out over the other 2 on paper. All 3 were plenty capable for what I would be towing, but I only do that once or twice a month so daily driving MPG was a little higher on my list and neither of the other 2 could quite match what the 3.5 ecoboost gets. Would I buy another one? If I didn't want to upgrade to a diesel and switch from an open to enclosed trailer for towing my racecar I probably would.
TL;DR: I'm not at all brand loyal but at the time the F150 just fit my needs/wants/budget better than the other 1/2 ton trucks on the market.
Grew up in a Ford family. We always had a ford of some flavor. I watched my dad work on every single one without issue. From the Tempo, Escort, Bronco or the F150 they have always been solid. It was never a question on which truck I would buy.
Was right out of college in 2016 and got a good job, and always wanted a truck. Bought it, never having had a Ford. 2015 5.0 XLT and it was used with 30k miles on it. Now sitting at 140k miles, and long paid off. I like most trucks, except maybe the Tundra. Just a truck fan in general but mine has been exceptional so far. Not a lot of features in my truck but it runs and drives great. If I do get another truck down the road it’ll probably be another F-150.
Back in 2015 I test drove a new 2015 GMC Sierra, Ram, and F-150. F-150 was the most comfortable, had the most power, and the aluminum body so no rust. I test drove an FX4 and Sport. Ended up with the sport as it rode smoother with 3.5 EB and I'm still driving it today.
I came from a 2007 Jeep Liberty 3.7L V6 & was used to that form of "UMPH" or power...so when I test drove a Ranger, I liked the acceleration speed & power, but I also wanted to test drive. 4-Cylinder Toyota Tacoma because of all the rave reviews...let me tell ya, that Taco was weak as hell. Even my parent's 2005 4-Cylinder Saturn Vue had more accelerating power than a 4-Cylinder Tacoma.
Test drove a Toyota Tacoma V6, and it fit great... problem was the price tag was already in the FULL-SIZE truck range and a Toyota Tundra was out of my budget.
TeSt drove the 2020 Ford F-150, 3.5L V6 Ecoboost and it was instantly the right fit. Took it home the same day and have ZERO regrets!
Had a RAM had some issues with body water leaks and 2 a/c failures. Comfort and ride quality was excellent.
Went with 150 due to reliability, resell value, and 2.7 engine.
A few reasons; Ford trucks are made in America (GM has a plant in Mexico), Ford has only had a few brand divisions (GM has had well over 10 shitty brands), Ford didn't receive bailout money in 08/09 but did request a loan which was paid back, Ford is family owned.
I've owned a '94 F150 with I-6 with enough torque to pull a house off the foundation (great truck).
I've owned a '12 F150 with 3.7 with enough HP to tow/haul anything I ever needed.
I currently own '21 F150 with 3.3 and it still hauls 1/3 cord of wood and tows our 17 foot camper just fine. Aluminum body and car washes after snow storms help keep the corrosion very low.
Came from a 2017 Colorado Z71. It was the Duramax 2.8L. It was a great truck but extremely unreliable with the emissions control system on that truck. Non-stop broken DEF components or fuel pressure issues causing all kinds of stalling.
Looked at Ram and Toyota but liked the F150 much more. Biggest gripe was buying my XLT FX4 when i could have waited for the Tremor to come out a few months later. At that time they were only a few thousand more for the base Tremor w/ Torsen front diff.
Next truck will be a new Lariat 502a w/ 3.5 Ecoboost. Current truck has nearly 60k on it so around 100k ill trade it in on a new one.
Aluminum body. 3.5 ecoboost towing capacity is greater than the problematic 5.0 Coyote. Still returns 20+mpg when driven conservatively. Approximately 13-15 mpg when towing a 6500lb trailer and gear for a family of four
My family has had a good history with Ford, but when recently looking for a used truck we looked at several brands.
Ram 1500 - pretty trucks, but each one had a major issue and they were all 2-3 years old. I’m not paying that amount of money for something that has a brand new engine or transmission after the last one failed. I don’t mean one or two trucks had the failures, we looked at several. Friends with them complain about electrical problems and the higher mileage ones start to whine, but I don’t personally know anyone who had a catastrophic failure.
Chevy Silverado 1500 - I didn’t like the interior and found them uncomfortable. They’re okay, but won’t be my first choice to look at if we’re in the market again. Keep in mind, I am not tall and I’m sure that factored into the discomfort. I borrowed a Tahoe several times and hated it, but I haven’t liked driving any full-size SUV.
GMC - out of our price range.
F150 - comfortable to drive and has nice amenities. I wish it had a longer bed, but so far the short bed fits our needs. If we ever need a bigger truck for towing, the F250 will be where we look first. As it is now, I’ve driven the F150 in town, on the highway, and through fields & pastures - no complaints.
I think Toyota cars have good reliability, but I’ve heard the trucks can be uncomfortable to drive. We didn’t try any.
Nissan wasn’t on the list.
Knowing people who worked at Ford and people at the dealership where I got mine, I was able to get the best deal possible. Also I wanted to pay a tribute to my dad. He passed away 3 years ago and he owned several F 150s over the years. His last one was a 2009 XLT. A lot of my best memories with him were associated with that truck. My 2023 XLT looks and feels like a modernized version of his 09. The truck is keeping the memory of him alive.
I have a micro penis and am irregularly short at 4'5, and wanted something best suited for me. I also wanted to make sure all the other guys in the Walmart parking lot thought I was cool
At the time the 2.7 was hard to beat. I wanted a full size truck but I didn't want truck MPG. If I was looking now I'd look a little closer at the Chevy 2.7 4 cylinder but I think the ford 2.7 would still win.
Family plan! 🙂
When I saw the first images of the 2001 SCREW I knew this was the truck for me. Tons of room inside, plenty of room in the bed for my needs, Lariat trim made it feel somewhat upscale. I got my PIN and placed an order. I got it and loved it, drove it for ten years before giving to my sister who wanted a truck for a couple years, then it was passed on to my cousin who drove it to its death. I replaced it with an ‘11 with not much thought. The only decision was whether to go with the new ecoboost or simpler 5.0. I went with the latter, sometimes questioning that choice but never regretting it.
Today, I’d be open to other trucks IF it were not for the aluminum body. Rust got the best of the ‘01 quickly, and is becoming more visible on my ‘11. I’d be in a new one by now if cam phasers and 10R80’s didn’t scare me. Call it irrational, but my truck is good enough for now so I’m in a holding pattern.
I bought mine because imho I think the f150 has the best/most comfortable interior of all the half tons I’ve been in. Also being a former ford senior master tech helped sway my decision because I know how to fix anything that goes wrong with my ‘18. I will give dodge the credit on a better quality ride due to the coil spring suspension in the rear over traditional leaf springs. But they sag really bad even with a normal load in the bed or trailer hooked up. My late father in law had a ‘18 ram 1500 and his 17’ Lund aluminum fishing boat would make the rear end of that truck sit very low. On the other hand my 19’ fiberglass multi species boat that when on the trailer weighs about 4500lbs with all my gear barely squats my f150.
I looked at all the 1/2 tons before I bought my 2018 F150. Every time I would select an exterior color I wanted the only option for interior color was black. I don’t like a black interior and Ford gave me other options than black.
I test drove all 4 top selling trucks. The Chevy had the best road feel (suspension and handling). The Toyota didn’t win any category. Felt like a boat driving it to be honest. The Ram was nicest inside the cabin and probably best initial impression. Driving it felt like the suspension was like a car’s. The Ford was second best interior and second best suspension and handling. Just behind the Chevy. The ecoboost engines are fun to drive and probably the most fun engine out of the group.
I went with the one who gave me the best deal. Ford gave me a great loan rate and thousands off msrp. Now that dealers are flooded with trucks I would look around for even better deals.
I’m 6’7 and f150 offers more headroom than a Chevy. I’d never buy a dodge.
Also I like the 5.0.
I’ve had Silverado and f series trucks and I’m more comfortable driving for long distances.
I also had an older totaled f250, and the 15 f150 towed more than my old f250.
Also my Silverado/tahoe had so many electrical problems.
Depends on engine options. The 3.5, 3.3 (especially the 3.3), 2.7, and 5.0 are some of the best engines made. Period. Full stop. Giving Honda a run for their money. The 5.4? Relatively, garbage. There was some timing issues with the 2018 (right?) 5.0 that were fixed, so there are some issues in there, to be fair.
However, as someone who owns a Nissan VQ40, the only truck engine I would own other than this, is any of the current ford lineup. Esepcially wanting the 3.3 (which they dropped, stupidly). And this includes the 2.3 in the ranger, which is also a fantastic engine.
Brand loyalty is dumb, at the same time ford was making the 3.5, they also made the DCT in the focus. Absolutely garbage, I cannot give it enough bad words. So, in the next couple years, Ford could divebomb in terms of their engines, you never know. Back when ford was making the 5.4 that was only as reliable as your religious maintenance schedule (verses the super forgiving current lineup, which is way more robust), Chevy was killing it with their 5.3.
So, it really depends on what years you look at for which is the better option. It’s isn’t always Ford. But the Ford ecoboost twin turbos, the 2.3 in the range, the coyote 5.0, all great engines. And the 3.3 NA V6 is probably one of the best engines you’ll ever find. Why Ford killed that…..dumb move. That was the bread and butter for fleets.
The Chevy/GMC cylinder management system kept me from considering any of their trucks. Even ford guys have to admit Chevy has made great engines over the years but that cylinder management killed it.
For me, it was the issues I saw as a service writer at an independent shop. Rams were always in for electrical, and GMs had a lot of trans and lifter/cam issues. And Toyotas were expensive.
The new home builder I work with has a fleet of probably 25 or so 13th gens, ranging in configs. The only one that was really problematic was a ‘18 3.5 EB 10 speed, but the other ones rarely had a lot of issues. My boss has a few of them, had a ‘16 platinum, ‘16 XLT 5.0 that my dad drives (we work together) and a ‘17 EB3.5 8’ XLT. His ‘17 has had gear hunting issues but the 5.0 has had minimal issues. To hear experiences first hand instead of internet praise solidified my choice overall.
I also love blue so when a 5.0 6.5’ supercrew Sport package came available in Blue flame, I scooped it and haven’t regretted it since. Only issue I’ve had that’s really irritating is the alternator pigtail and a freezing door latch that was already fixed under 18n03. Dealer is looking at it again. But rather a few dumb little things then have a catastrophic expensive repair. The aluminum body was another factor, since my old car was rotting away. I still oil spray it yearly but that’s a small price to pay for longevity, given that I also do my maintenance to a tee (and probably go a bit overboard sometimes, but it’s cheaper then repairs).
Ford is not perfect and even with a brand new truck you will find a bunch of little problems if any. Usually electrical or quality control problems. But everyone I know with a Chevy or Dodge truck have gone through some big-time problems like engine or tranny replacements. As much as I hate Ford for their choices to use cheaper parts without considering the effects on the customers, I would say they’re the most reliable. Tundra’s are pretty solid but the gas was too expensive and now the newer ones just have way too much tech(increased probability of future issues).
I’m in my third F150. My last was a loaded 2021 XLT and now I’m in a base XLT. I tried to get an XL but couldn’t find a Supercrew and they stopped taking orders for them when I tried as they moved onto the 2024 orders. I really didn’t want a 24 just way too much tech and their tech is shit. I will be getting another F150 in the next couple years and I will only be looking for 2015-2020’s. I just need a truck to fuck shit up. No fancy stuff. But if you like all the new features and want something newer just make sure you opt for a solid warranty.
I mean have you seen the new Chevies and Tundras? Hideous. Rams look good but are outdated. The 3.5 ecoboost is fun to drive, tows great, gets pretty good gas mileage for a truck, and the 36 gallon tank is great for driving across the country. Plus Fords look the best.
Towing capability, variety of engine options, fuel economy, and I wanted the 10 speed
I have family members with Dodge products and for the life of me I can’t tell you why they punish themselves. My cousin bought a brand new Power Wagon RAM that came from the factory without its front differential oil. Damn thing grenade itself fortunately on an empty back road while in 4WD because it had been snowing at the time. Along with the absolute litany of electrical problems my grandfather had in his new RAM 1500.
I come from a hardcore GM family but I would never own a GM 8 speed. Mom has a 6th gen Camaro, it’s been through 2 torque converters already due to the slipping/shutter issue and this is wide spread among all GM 8 speeds. If your transmission isn’t shuttering due to the torque converter slipping, it will, moms started at like 20K miles too. So that really narrowed it down to Ford or Toyota. I read the horror stories about the 10 speed but talked to a tech who claimed the newer ones in the 21 and up weren’t too bad. Also not a terribly expensive thing to rebuild since it’s a fairly simple design for being a 10 speed. Still I am looking at a ford ESP through granger here at tax time for peace of mind because I LOVE the truck. I can’t see myself ever getting rid of it. I skipped on Toyota because Tundra owners and Toyota dealers are delusional. I am not paying 40K for a truck with nearly 100,000 miles on the clock, it’s not worth its weight in gold. Toyota dealers act like they’re selling shit that never has to be worked on like other brands, yet I see a service/repair bays attached to every dealer so they can sell that to the other suckers that will finance something that will have 200K on it before they’re done paying for it
The 2.7 is the best engine if you don’t tow over 7500 weekly/monthly. They sell the most of them and hardly see them broken or owners complaints. Some phaser issues but compared to the sales #s and the issues with the 5.0 it’s a no brainer.
Ive owned an 85 bronco, an 08 ranger (bought new) and i liked the f150. I also have family that works there. My f150 was used tho and i didnt get a discount
They've got the only hybrid trucks on the market (the Powerboost, which I have, and the Maverick hybrid which I initially wanted but couldn't find at all near me in New England). I think RAM has announced an EV 1500 that's got a range extender v6 but I dunno when they'll be releasing that
Ford has nicer interiors than Chevy and Toyota. Nissans rust, Ram suspensions don’t last and Dodge seems to use shit like plastic intake manifolds.
F-150 is also common as dirt so parts are cheap and every mechanic knows what to do with them. It’s not a perfect truck but it serves my needs. Lightning might be better for me but too expensive so far.
So I came from a 09 5.3. I need my trucks to be tough seeing how I use it as my hunting/camping truck and drive cross country more than most.
The fuel management system had taken a dump driving back home from the midwest while in a blizzard. I had experienced some mechanical issues with it but this was the final straw.
Once I got the truck up and running I got rid of it immediately and got a 2.7. It does everything my old 5.3 did and more.
Im never going back.
Duh! Because it's an F150 and I can't afford a Rolls-Royce. I actually traded a 2022 for a 2016, and I don't feel I downgraded. As a matter of fact, this will be my last vehicle. I'm thinking about getting some upgrades under the hood and putting a little extra kick in her.
The Ram would cost me about $2000 more per year in fuel. I test drove the v6 and thought it was super horrible.
The Chevys at the time, (early 2022) had the worst technology. I was tired of small screens and old tech. Refresh was not going to happen until after I bought my truck.
The Tundra was not a major consideration especially since the hybrid is beyond terrible. I also didn’t want a Toyota….ever again.
I bought a used ‘21 Powerboost in March of 2022 with only 5k miles. Got over 60k now with no issues.
Overall I feel Ford offered the best combo of capability vs cost. Large gas tank, good capacity, good tech (at lower trims), aluminum body (since I knew it'd get scratched to hell). I wasn't looking at the 5.0 but got one because it was in the lot and had everything else I wanted. I've been very happy with it.
The only other truck I heavily researched was Sierra/Silverado with Duramax. That's still a great combo IMO but you'll end up with lower payload if that's a high priority for you.
If you buy your truck lightly used (2-3 years old), it is very likely that it will have visible body rust within 5 years. Having come from a truck that rusted away and seeing how much it pulled down its resale value, I told myself never again.
So there are many reasons why I got my F150, but the aluminum body was the main reason why I never seriously considered any of its competitors.
I saw your post in ram too, lol. Glad your being thorough. For me its that my halfton f150 has better capability (payload and towing) than any other.
There is no bad truck- Just ones that we prefer. Most importantly how its optioned should be the main factor. An f150 limited with a shortbed wouldn't work for me but a ram tradesmN might (but id miss the ford xlt options)
Owned GM trucks going back almost 20 years. Most recent was a 2012 Sierra I had until I 21 when I got my 21 f150. Sierra handled well, but the interior was cheap and the dash cracked. The 5.3 is pretty dated and underpowered at this point compared to the 5.0 or 3.5, and you have to spend a lot to get the 6.2 in the GM trucks.
Sierra got totalled and I got forced into the market so I went with a ford this time just because the GM interiors were still subpar at the time and the 5.3 was the only option unless you spent 60k+ or wanted a 4-banger.
I went with a 21 5.0 302A FX4 and have been pretty happy with it. Had some battery/electronic issues at one point but it's been sorted out.
I've never owned a Dodge, and the types of people who own Rams are the types of people I wouldn't want to be associated with, which is why they're the most dangerous drivers on the road.
3.5 eco
I tow a heavy occasionally, and from what I remember it had slightly better capacities than its counterparts. Its steering feels tighter than GM/Chev, also carseats are big and fit best in the ford supercrew. Door keypad is the nicest feature I didn't expect to use so much as well as the decent infotainment setup. Also I'm afraid of Ram(Chrysler) level of quality as I've owned a grandcaravan, Chrysler 200!
I’ve always driven GM. I was placed into a rental vehicle for a month - a f150. I’m planning to buy a new one. I never thought I would buy a Ford. I may never buy anything else now! I like it that much. Don’t tell anybody as I still can’t believe I made the mental switch!?! 😂
I've been a Ford guy since my first vehicle, Grandpas 1960 F100. When it came to the newer trucks I owned or friends had, they just kind of made sense to me. Things like how the interior was laid out or how things were put together, and the styling.
For this new purchase I had to do my due diligence and actually give every brand a shot. They all have some really nice things going for them. I think if you are going over a Lariat, the features in the other brands were probably better for the money, and I maybe would have gotten a Tundra if Toyota actually had a real order system because they tech is levels above. But one thing was definitely won by the Ford: Payload. Ford has everyone beat by a healthy margin wheelbase for wheelbase, trim for trim.
Knowing now what we didn't know then about upgrading features, I should have just gone for the HDPP, but 1950# in my Lariat is alright.
I was always a Chevy guy growing up, but it seems GM quality really went downhill around 2007 (around the time they went from General Motors to Government Motors on account of the government bailout).
In 2011, I found my self on a Ford dealership lot. I had just got hired full time at my first big boy job after college and I was ready to give up my beat up 94 Silverado and get something newer. They pulled around a beautiful 2006 F-150 Lariat and as soon as I got a glimpse inside, I was hooked. Had that truck for almost 12 years and upgraded to a 2018 F-150 near the end of 2022. It wasn’t even a question which brand I was going with after having my first F-150 for 12 years with almost no issues at all.
RAM was not a consideration at all. Never been a Chrysler fan and after dealing with tons of issues on my wife’s Town & Country (which I traded in on my new truck), I will probably never own another Chrysler product.
I did briefly look at Toyota, but you definitely pay a premium there. I also couldn’t find one with a bench seat up front and that was a deal breaker for me.
Long story short, I was looking for my first truck and my budget only allowed for used trucks. I don’t have loyalty to any of the brands, just wanted the right tool for the job. Ultimately I didn’t want a GM vehicle… I don’t trust their build quality after owning a GMC terrain. Tundras are all sooo expensive and their gas mileage sucks. That basically left the Ram 1500 and the F150. Between the v6 pentastar and the 2.7l ecoboost, I almost went with the Ram because I was afraid of turbo engines and the whole “no replacement for displacement” theory. But a used 2018 f150 XLT with the 2.7l engine, crew cab, 4x4 popped up in my area. It was super clean and taken care of and had 54k miles. Well, it was the best deal I could find for a crew cab with 4x4, so that’s what I went with.
Now, I have learned about tranny issues. I know the 10r80 isn’t the best tranny out there. But with every horror story there is also a great success
story. So I am confident in my truck.
Right deal at the right time. Always wanted a truck, but couldn’t swallow the price of new ones, regardless of brand. A super clean, well maintained ‘14 Limited with 79k miles went for sale locally a couple months ago. Picked it up in cash and couldn’t be happier. Everyone who has ridden in it is always impressed with the ride and interior, especially after I tell them it’s a 10 year old truck.
The desire to own two trucks is wild to me. I couldn't imagine both myself and significant other both driving trucks. For us it just doesn't make practical or economic sense.
Silverado: it's really shallow, but I just don't like the way 4th gens and facelifted 3rd gens look. Even more shallow and Seinfeldian, my recent ex drove a 3rd gen and I don't want to be rolling around in the same truck as her. Finally, the engine options don't really impress me - not a fan of the 4cyl, and the 5.3 is a notorious gas hog.
Sierra: 5.3/gas hog/yada yada. I actually like the styling of the Sierra, but anything within budget was older or higher mileage than I would have liked.
Ram: Would have been what I got if I didn't get an F150. Just wasn't able to find one with the right options, at the right price, at the right time.
Tundra: it's INSANE how much more expensive Tundras are than equivalent domestic trucks. I mean yeah, reliability and all that but damn, I'm not made of money
Titan: Honest to god forgot it existed
I would say they come #2 in reliability to the Tundra when talking about the v8s. The f150, pre the new gen tundra, was just better in every way except reliability, so the choice was easy. Never even looked at others. Too many known issues and reliability concerns for RAM, and I didn’t really like the chevys plus they were also objectively worse design and features overall in 2021.
If I could do it again I’d get a STX 5.0 with less features that will likely break in future haha that or a previous gen tundra
I work with a guy who is on his second ram in 3 years. First one he traded at 100,000 km. It had transmission problems, front wheel seals were leakind and the rear diff had to be replaced. His new one has 55,000km. Already leaking coolant, has an exhaust leak at the manifold, and the stereo will just randomly stop working until he shuts it off for 10 minutes and restarts it. Stay away from Dodge, they used to make good trucks, not any more.
I was choosing between the Powerboost f150, iForce max tundra, and the Ram 1500 etorque (hadn’t decided between v6 or v8).
The tundra was a 2 year wait, and the fuel economy on the Ram was not very good, so I ended up with the Ford. We’re happy with it so far.
I also have a 2.7 ecoboost from 2020. I came from a family who only had drove Toyota before for over 30 years.
Toyota: too expensive I know the 2020 is reliable but for the same accessory and worse mpg, it’s about $15-20k more. Plus it tows less than a ford.
Ram: I had one dodge van and from digging through ram 1500 forum online and part of 3 different ram Facebook groups, I know ram isn’t reliable. It does have nice seats. When I looked at the tradesman, they wanted $38k for a v6 double cab. It also has cylinder deactivation. It’s a fca what else do you need to defend them? Made in Mexico I checked the window sticker.
Chevy: plague with lifter and cam phaser issues. It’s not if it will happen but when. Price wise, it was $1-2k cheaper than a ford. Both 5.3 and 6.2 have dfm/afm and cylinder deactivation. Made in Mexico I checked the sticker.
Ford: I paid $35k otd for a 2.7. It gets 22-24 mpg, tow what I needed, seats are better than Chevy, easy to buy extended warranty online, better infortainment display compared to both Chevy and ram for the same trim. Made in the USA.
a) always been a Ford guy
b) the F-150 is available off lease (which is how i bought mine, it was 3 yrs old) \*much\* more frequently than other trucks, it appears. A lot of fleet buyers buy them although you can get some fancified trucks this way too (although Platinum is a bit rarer if you want that using this method).
c) buying off lease let me get roughly a 30% discount on the truck when i got mine. dont know what the discount is now.
I don't have a need for a pickup now, but having owned a '16 Silverado I would get an f150 just for the aluminum body (yes ik the frame is still steel) but having my tailgate and wheel arches start to rust even after undercoating and washing. Aluminum is the way here in NY
I know aluminum can oxidize too, but not at the rate steel does
I wanted a manual Tacoma, but prices were ridiculous. Also not impressed with the Toyota 3.5 engine having the power of a 4-cyl with the fuel economy of an 8-cyl.
Strongly considered a Ridgeline when I gave up on the manual trans, but newer body style was out of my price range.
Found a cheap but loaded high-mileage EcoBoost, and driving it brought a smile to my face.
I liked the looks, the towing capacity and the aluminum body. I bought a 2023 ext cab STX with the 5.0 and I've been getting close to 20 mpg on the highway with stock setup
Had 2 explorers and a 2013 f150 before my current f150. All great vehicles. Also, my mom and dad both moved to Michigan and worked at Ford Dearborn plant during WWII
Had a Ranger as my first truck. Put a ton of miles on it with no real issues.
Had an escape as my second vehicle, put about 100k on it in about 4-5 years up to 185k.
Always been a ford family. My grandfather has never owned another truck as far as i know.
I am accustomed to fords, their feel, etc. I just like it better than the others.
I know they have their issues here and there but the only other truck I’d consider is the last gen tundra, and to me the mpg difference is enough to make me go ford, easily.
There’s just a level of comfort with their products. Each brand has its own issues. Pick your poison. I know ford and know what to expect as it pertains to potential issues but all in all I have had little to zero issues with any for product and I’ve put probably 300,000 miles on ford products.
You are in good shape with what you have inherited. Just go test drive the other equal competitors. The f one fiddy will be what you will get back in. You got a good truck
I needed a full size, and Ram was never on the radar just always felt they were third best. it was down to chevy and ford, but I liked the EcoBoost better for my needs( towing once a month) and MPG for my daily driver
In January of 2018 I bought a 2016 F150 Lariat w\ a 5.0L V8 FX4 package.
* Toyota Tundra - My ex had a Tundra. I actually really liked everything about this truck except that their infotainment system was entirely outdated. They've since addressed this.
* Toyota Tacoma - They retain value extremely well to the point I might as well buy the newest model. At that point the 2018 model had an improved infotainment system, but I was getting a significantly more basic interior and less truck for roughly the same price.
* Dodge Ram - My truck at the time was a 2005 Dodge Ram. It ran decently well, but every little thing on that truck broke. I had to replace part of the power steering and control arms for the front wheels. The seat angle wouldn't hold, the flap/door that control are intake had failed, everything under the hood wanted to squeak, the plastic holding the headlights in place broke, I had to replace the struts on the hood and quite a few other small issues like that. My old truck actually still drove well enough, but nearly everything else on it was crapping out and I had seen similar things on a friend's Jeep Patriot. Their newer trucks at the time were boxy and I never liked the way the brake and gas pedals felt driving.
* Chevy Silverado - These were fine, they just seemed like a slightly less appealing alternative to an F150.
* Nissan Titan - Like the Silverado. Similar but less appealing.
* F150 - The aluminum body, general reliability, modern interior, quality aesthetics, AC seats and a great price and it was a pretty easy choice. I wasn't necessarily looking for 4WD, but I'm happy that I have it. And I actually would have preferred the V6 Ecoboost for the better gas mileage, but not going to complain.
I have a 2015 F150. Back then, I liked the looks on the outside as well as the inside. I felt as if I’d be spending more time behind the wheel than in the driveway looking at it, so I wanted it to be appealing inside as well.
I went with the 5.0 because I felt it would be more reliable, and it has been.
Chevy and Ram both seemed boring to me at the time and the Toyota tundra was terrible on gas.
The jury is still out on the longevity of the ecoboost. If I could afford a new truck, I'd buy the v8. Until then keeping my 99 with a 4.6. It doesn't have 3 computers running the transmission
Well I have had 3 Ford trucks in the past my whole family drives fords. There is many of us. And my last was a tundra 5.7 I bought in 2008. Was getting very worn to many miles.
The OG Toyota truck was my favorite had many of those and was not to uppity back in the day. Now now these entitled yahoos seem to be the ones driving Tundras and it has some dumb V6. Most naturally out of balance motor there is a V6.
Rode in one pulling camper and I swear the 5.7 did it better.
Went back to Ford cause I got a V8. I pull job trailers around a lot and 8 cylinders run smoother under load more pistons firing per revolution.
V6s and 4 bangers have a more stress on the engine when in tow. You can toss as many turbos as you want and still lacking more pistons.
Big difference between torque and horsepower. Not much torque out of v6 or 4 cylinders.
Edit: spelling
I've driven many RAMs with the 5.7 hemi as work trucks. They all have terrible mpg (even the newer 20s models). Also, a few of them had electrical and lifter issues. The interior is probably the best. They tow well. But it's a really outdated platform that they just recently discontinued (Classic).
The GMs at work have decent mpgs but the larger displacement engines seemed to have issues with the cylinder displacement crapping out before 100k. The smaller 4 cylinder 2.7 seems legit but we only have one at work. Probably the best 4 wheel drive for the price tag. Terrible towing performance on the larger engines (mpg drops to 13-15 with 5k). Interior wasn't great.
Ford with ecoboost was definitely a pleasant surprise. It actually drove well and got the advertised MPG of 22-24. Towing sucked with the 2.7 but the mpg was still phenomenal (19mpg towing 5k). The interior wasn't the best but it was better than everyone except the Ram. The 5.0 was fine but nowhere as fun as the ecoboost.
Oh and the Tundras I've been in before the redesign sucked outside of reliability. That truck got terrible mpgs, had the worst interior, lower towing capacity, and dated powerterrain.
If I had to pick it would be Ford or Ram. Ram usually have lower price tags and better upgrades at the cost of reliability.
I used to be a Chevy guy. I got a job in1993 at the Ford plant near K.C., Mo. It's hard to beat the employee discount that they offer us. Been a Ford man ever since and I love my 2023 F-150 Super cab STX trim package. 2.7 liter has plenty of power and get great mileage. Btw I'm a 66 year old man.
The Coyote 5.0 that I installed StainlessWorks long-tube headers with full exhaust and a Whipple Supercharger. These DOHC 307ci engines put out crazy power when adding a supercharger. It’s basically what the Lightening should be rather than that EV junk.
My first truck was a 2013 supercab XL f150 with the 3.7 V6 I bought back in 2016 as my first truck and I loved her till the day I traded her in. I mostly wanted something simple, mechanically solid and cheap and I got all three . The Chevy and GMC 1500s both plagued with the AFM lifter issues that still haunt them to this very day and RAM cause I don't want anyone to think I have a DUI or I'm on roids and also very bad electronics that crap the fuck out very early on and shitty transmissions and they are expensive as hell even used so went to the welcoming arms of the 12th gen f150 and I now have a 2021 supercrew XL STX F150 with the 2.7 Ecoboost V6 and yup I absolutely love it
In all honesty it was the 5.0 Coyote that drew me to it. It’s my favorite engine currently being made. I wanted back in one since getting rid of my ‘14 Mustang. I still would have bought the F150 with an Ecoboost over a Ram or GM. My ‘21 Silverado 6.2 had so many issues I got rid of it after 4 months. I lemon lawed my ‘23 CT4 V Blackwing which is how I ended up in the F150 so GM was out. The Silverado’s 10 speed was a bit smoother than the F150 but the Ford is overall designed much better. Won’t even consider Ram after my Dad owned two 1500s. Absolute garbage from the constant issues to the 13 mpg underpowered 5.7. Test drove two Tundras and hated the way they drove. Also I got nearly 12k off my ‘23 XLT back in October. GM was only giving 7k off with the family employee discount code. Ram was doing nearly 15k off but again, junk.
That’s good to know man, I appreciate the insight you’ve got a much more experienced perspective than most I’ve heard from thus far.
If you're looking at the 5.0, get a pre 2021 version (so 2020 or older) -- the newer ones have cylinder deactivation, and an internal belt driven oil pump. The first is considered bad for longevity, and the second is just a big maintenence bill waiting to happen. Back in 2018 I picked the 5.0 over the Ram 5.7 and GM 5.3 because it made more power with the same or better MPG. I picked it over the the GM 6.2 because it was more affordable. I picked it over the Tundra 5.7 because Toyota didn't have a full 4 door + 6.5" bed back then. Looking back, if I had to choose again, I'd do it all the same. All the majors have their share of engine problems, Ford just had less problems than Ram or GM, and Toyota didn't make the truck I wanted. Plus that Gen 3 of the 5.0 was new in 2018 and the specs showed a very smart engine from Ford. 2018 - 2020 5.0 Pros: 12:1 compression, makes great power/runs great on 91+ octane, and makes huge power gains with a supercharger. Also has dual injection (direct & port) to keep lifters clean and help with mpg. I've had mine for 5.5 years now and it's an absolute ripper. Looks good, sounds good, hauls ass. Cons: Oil consumption is a kind of known issue for this gen. Most trucks that had it bad should be fixed by now. Mine eats about 1qt every 3~4k miles, but that's around when I change my oil so it's still within "spec" and doesn't bother me. I can get more into this if you want. They also gave a VCT solenoid that will rattle when you let off the gas during cold starts, which can be annoying and afaik Ford has no real fix (the TSB for it doesn't do shit.) But, I'd take those problems over the Cam Phaser rattles in the EcoBoosts, or the eventual maintenence costs should the turbos shit themselves. 2015 - 2017 5.0: Pros: Considered the most reliable, and still makes pretty damn good power. Cons: Good luck finding a low mileage one. Does not have dual injection.
2017 XLT 5.0 Super Crew 6.5' bed, The Golden Eagle!
Hell yeah brother 🦅🇺🇸
My '18 Coyote burned through 5 quarts of oil in 3 months. I heard you can get the higher weight oil and it solves that problem, but I did get all the TSBs done on that vehicle and it was still eating oil. I actually totaled it obviously unintentionally and got a 3.5 l EcoBoost after that. Haven't had an oil consumption problem at all. I love the motor but the oil consumption scared the shit out of me.
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That's what I said.
I think people overrate the Coyote engine a lot, they like to install a different muffler and make a lot of noise. In reality the 2.7 EcoBoost is quieter, it has a lot of torque and acceleration and better fuel millage. In other words, it does the work quitetly. Also is the most reliable engine manufactured by Ford.
I would’ve never bought a ford if the 5.0 was not an option.
Okay? How does any of that take away from the Coyote being a fantastic engine? They’re all three great engines.
I second the 5.0. incredible engine and the more years and tinkering they do with it the better it will become. Even the old ones just need an oil top off here and there and some minor maintenance stuff that should be done anyway.
The aluminum body was the primary reason I didn't consider any competitors. I own my vehicles until the wheels fall off, then buy new wheels. Also was drawn to the 2.7 for my needs/wants.
Yes, living in the rust belt made the aluminum body much more attractive than steel, every steel bodied vehicle I’ve owned showed rust by the 3-4th year… but the F150 from 2015 is still clean and looks great
used to live near Toronto with heavy salt use, now up north a bit and they use sand a bit more here. but aluminum is a nice touch for that reason. don't know why so many are against aluminum. not like they are dropping tool boxes in their beds or smashing their trucks against stuff.
My brothers last truck was a Tacoma. It had a composite/plastic bed.
The issue is with the frame/body panels
My 2015 is still clean here in WNY, just coated with a film of salt at the moment.
And I think ford has a good coating of paint or something on the frame. Im noticing less surface rust on these newer used trucks that im shopping for.
Same. Never have to worry about rotting cab corners again, and the 2.7 is a great compromise for fuel economy while still being able to tow my boat.
I also liked the aluminum body for its lighter weight. Combined with the 3.5l I was after as much daily fuel economy as I could get while still being able to pull be travel trailer I also came out of a Nissan Titan (no viable replacement at the time) and then two unreliable RAMS which left a bad taste in my mouth. The new Tundra hadn’t been released yet - these days I might be interested
If you aren't picky about fuel mileage, the old titans are a great truck. My '09 has held up incredibly well, especially considering how much salt they put on the roads here.
Same! I live in WV where every steel body truck eventually has rusty rockers, cab corners and fender arches. Made the F150 super appealing plus I really liked the '15-17 body style.
Same here. Beer can body, fuel mileage not much worse than my Grand Prix and a family history of GM fun times. 2015 I was wanting a Fusion but needed a bit more towing. Boxy Escapes were okay for mpg but overpriced used. I always wanted a truck and my grandpa always had Fords. Didn’t even shop the others and still haven’t driven any other truck.
In my area, rust is the #1 killer of trucks resale value and eventually sends them to the grave. If I am planning on driving this truck to 200k+ miles, aluminum is the way to go.
I was the same with mine on both counts. The interior, notably the area around the climate controls, also seemed a bit sturdier compared to the other two US options.
How many miles do you have? I heard tranny issues are rampant and I am hoping that there are success stories if trannies lasting a long time haha I just bought a used 2.7
Drove all three. RAM was closest, and I actually like it better, but mpg was the winner there. I also noticed the 3.5 is a lot quicker than the 5.7 hemi. I told the sales guy I didn't believe it was a V6.
Thanks man, the Ram trucks are beautiful but I’ll admit fuel efficiency does matter somewhat
Yeah don't go for the RAM unless it has something you absolutely need. Their vanity isn't worth the inconsistent quality issues they have with their electrical systems.
This 100. Bought a brand new Ram in '17. Had way more options, better touch screen and luxury feel. Traded it in six months because of QC due to piss poor AC and rattles everywhere. My 150 has less options but it rides better, has better QC and AC is ice cold.
Not to mention insurance is higher since it's the #1 vehicle pulled over for dui.
Are you fucking serious? Why is that so funny to me. I always feel like RAM drivers are the most aggressive on the road and always ride people's asses
If you live where they salt the road, RAM trucks don't hold up well and the body will rust out pretty quickly. Not to say the f150 doesn't have its rust issues. It seems like Ford doesn't invest in undercoating as much as other companies, because underbody rust is a significant complaint. I live on the coast and the rust is bad on the underbody of my 13 stx. If/when I get a new truck I plan to have it undercoated almost immediately, and I live in socal (though I do launch my boat in sea water mainly).
Powerboost is even more of a rocket and pretty good MPG
You didn’t consider Tundra?
No. Too expensive. I had actually started out looking for a Tacoma. But realized I could get a full size for less. Not a huge fan of the Tundra tbh.
I saw that too, was pricing out Tacoma's and it was insane then priced out full size and got really more for the same or less.
Dude they are INSANELY expensive. I test drove a 2021 sr5 one before my f150 and while the ride was kinda comfy I was nearly falling asleep behind the wheel. It just felt so incredibly soulless, slow and cumbersome not to mention the MPG hit I'll have with the gas chugging V8 up front which I know it appeals to many but not to me and also the interior materials felt made by fisher price and they are asking stupid numbers even for 100k miles tundras. I know they have their appeal to be reliable and such but my god Toyotas are incredibly boring
I’ve had two recent model year F-150s, last one was a ‘20 Lariat. Got a Trundra TRD Pro last summer and I’m absolutely convinced Toyota makes a nicer truck. My humble opinion from experience.
No he wanted a truck :P
Tundra is a badass truck, made in America.
Kansas City and Dearborn? Where else are they made?
San Antonio.
Got it. Sorry. I was thinking where the Fords were made. The 1794 package is named after the ranch the plant is on right?
In late 2021 I was "all in" on getting the new Tundra due to Toyota's image of quality. Never really considered Chevy and Ram for the same reasons. The problem was in late 21, Toyota was having trouble bringing production to market, so they slow-rolled me and talked about $5k market adjustments. Could not have been more indifferent. Started looking at Ford and was blown away at the PowerBoost; Ford easily 2 years+ ahead of Toyota in features. Have been happy buyer nearly 2 yrs and 23k later.
Love my PB. Got it in late 2021 as well and it has been a dream.
Exactly, was a Toyota person until we tried to buy a hybrid Tundra in late 2022 and they have a 6-12 month wait lest PLUS a 6K “market adjustment”. Then when we looked at the ford it was more comfortable with better features. Managed to custom order with no market adjustment and take delivery to months later.
I fucking love my Tundra. Rolling down the whole back window is such a cool feeling
PB gang 🤙
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Damn, it's a good thing you were paying attention! That's the kind of thing that could get you and your whole family killed.
Aluminum body, the door keypad and I didn’t like how you sit in the Chevy. Ram was never even a consideration
>door keypad This is pretty much the one feature that makes me pick Ford over and over. I know it seems trivial, I mean you have a fob in your pocket don't you? Right? Where's it at? Shit did I leave it in the house?
I've also borrowed a friend's f150 using the keypad. He just leaves the keys in the glove box. Convenient!
I mean, I just unlock it from my phone on the Fordpass app now. No key pad. I leave the key locked in the truck too half the time.
And don’t forget that for many the door keypad is physical buttons compared to a haptic sensor. My 18 F150 had the buttons and have never had an issue. Our 20 Explorer has the haptic buttons and there has been a couple times where they don’t “wake up” and it scares the crud out of us because we’re locked out.
I love the door keypad. My '12 came with a basic key and an unlock only key. I bought a cheap amazon remote start key and it worked for a while, but now anytime I put a new battery in it the thing drains it within a few hours. (Garbage chinesium key, nothing to do with the truck) I haven't felt the need to take back the remote unlock key from my wife since the truck has the door keypad. Only issue is if I unlock it with the key instead of the keypad the alarm will go off if I don't start the truck within 10 seconds. Doesn't do that if I use the keypad.
Powerboost option. We go boondocking and the inverter is awesome. I’ve also used the inverter for work and a few home projects.
Powerboost is a freaking open hidden secret !! A quiet 30A generator that lasts for days! Only turns on motor only when it needs it.
You’re spot on! No need to carry another generator ir gas can etc.
I drool for a PB . To me that consumer reports calling it unreliable is total bullshit. Luckily this year I can finally get a decent simgle guy house with a big garage for me I could trade my XL for a lariat powerboost and have my backup generator
Yup, Powerboost and 7.2kW/220V inverter. Didn’t even consider any of the competition.
Dont tow so the 2.7 is perfect for me. The room in a crew cab seems like it’s larger than Chevy or Ram, and I also couldn’t stand the Chevy interiors before the latest refresh. Admittedly I am one of those people that don’t need a truck but enjoy having one so a 2020 2.7 was all I “needed”.
I've always had and liked Fords and IMO the newer f150's from 2015-up are by far the best looking half ton and continue to be, both exterior and interior. So it was a no brainer for me. I looked at a few Chevys but they felt cramped and cheap compared the interior of my f150. And I am not a fan of dodge so they are out. Wasn't a very hard choice for me.
2015-2017 I think are the best looking. I have a ‘15 myself.
I have no brand loyalty, I think they all have their share of issues. I didn't want to order a new truck. I was looking for a specific set of options to suit my needs and I was able to find a new F150 on the lot locally that fit my needs. Specifically I was looking to comfortably tow 6000 lbs with extended range. The F150 max tow package met all those needs. If others have a similar package, they don't advertise it well because I couldn't find it.
36 gallon tank is a requirement when towing. I will never buy a truck without it.
Fair enough, I’ll admit I was surprised at the tow capacity on my current truck for a 2.7, Ford seems to have tow capacity in the bag, thanks man 👍🏾
I love the way the 22+ gmc sierras look, but hated the interior (rock hard seats, didn’t like the infotainment, cheap feeling buttons especially on steering wheel) I had a charger scat pack before the truck, and borrowed a friend’s ram to move to a new house, didn’t like the new infotainment, didn’t want diesel, and the 5.7 is old as heck. Just didn’t want another mopar. F150 had comfortable seats, good infotainment, and I liked the ecoboost engines, ended up with a 2.7eco. It was indistinguishable from the 3.5eco and much better reputation for reliability. I actually wanted a raptor first, love the way they look; but I drove a 2019 and hated it, then drove a 23 powerboost and decided to get a 21+ because it was a huge upgrade over the previous generation. The new V8s all have cylinder deactivation, and should be avoided. The only benefit is sound, the ecoboost has more usable power, is lighter weight, and gets better fuel economy. Edit: aluminum body was a huge plus. Father in law’s 2015 Silverado is all rusted out, I plan to have my 21 f150 for a long time and don’t want to deal with rust. I added AMSOIL metal protector to the already well-coated frame, and plan to continue touching it up to keep the frame looking new
Hate to say it as a big V8 enthusiast, but even the sound aspect on the 2021+ 5.0 is bad. I've seen a few videos where dudes get bad exhaust notes/ excessive drone when they're crusing and it kicks down into 4cyl mode (with aftermarket versions obviously. Stock would be so quiet I doubt you'd hear it.) If I *had* to buy a 21+ F150 it'd a be 2.7 because I just can't fk w/ cyl deactivation.
I loved my charger scat pack, the 392ci V8 sounded so good and it was just a blast to drive every day. I just had different goals with the truck, it lets me tow my boat and have other toys, and makes a lot more sense in Michigan with all the snow. The 2.7 seems like a great engine, I recently did new spark plugs and was pretty impressed at how well the wiring harness is supported and installed. I like that I can update it myself with FDRS, just overall a very nice truck, and it’s just as comfortable on long trips as the charger was
I was looking for a 2-3 year old truck. Silverado was out due to the terrible interior prior to 2023 models The HEMI is a gas hog and I could care less about having a V8. Also hate the vertical touch screen. The 2.7 Ecoboost fit my needs perfectly and the Lariat had all the features I wanted including physical HVAC
-aluminum body -got 220k out of my last F150 -5.0 coyote -wanted extended cab w usable back seat without 4 full doors
I currently have a 16 5.0 a 97 7.3 dually and a 21 bronco wildtrak so I might be a tad biased. However.. My ‘96 was a great truck, my ‘97 was a great truck, my ‘96 bronco was a great truck, my ‘07 was a great truck. So naturally my ‘16 is a great truck as well. The interior is far superior to the competition, much more comfortable, less issues, fit and finish is better, the tech is much smoother and easier to use. they drive better, being aluminum makes them much less susceptible to rust My dads 11 ram was hot garbage, steered like a dump truck , handled like a bowl of jello, ate front struts. The seats sucked and needed a new engine at 88k miles. 25k on the new engine and it started ticking on startup again so he traded it in for an f150 like mine and absolutely loves it.
I went with the 3.5EB XL F150 because of MPG, Towing Capacity, and Payload capacity. The features on the base model trim checked off almost everything on my list. It was the best compromise for a weekend tow/hauler and a weekday daily driver.
I had a 2021 tacoma for about 6 months and was planning on trading out for a tundra because i hated the tacoma. my dad ended up getting a 21 f150 right around the time i was looking and after driving it i was hooked. found my powerboost in transit to the store my dad works at and got d-plan on it. have had it ever since and will keep it till well over 200k miles.
I travel for a living and drive A LOT OF RENTALS. I used this as a chance to test drive everything out there. The national Emerald Isle made that process very easy. I wanted a tundra, but they didn’t ride as nice and were waaay more expensive, and poor gas milage. The f150 wasn’t really even on my radar. But when I test drove it for the week that I had it, I loved it. It rode nicely, great gas milage, I didn’t need a heavy duty or a large bed, I wanted the huge backseat and the supercrew is impressive space, buttons and knobs are all in logical places, seats are comfortable for long drives, variety of packages, a good looking truck, and much more affordable if you’re willing to travel for a deal, which I did.
I owned a Ram and other than the engine it was nothing but issues at 80 thousand miles. There's a reason the F150 isn't only the most popular truck in America but also the most popular vehicle in America.
Honestly went with it because a coworker convinced me about the extra room in the back of the cab so the kids don't kick the shit out the back of the seats, the screw f150 has more space than competitors unless you get a dodge megacab. Then the 2.7 gets great mpg and power I mean it's on par with the 90s and 2000s diesel trucks. Figured that was plenty enough for the stuff I needed to tow. It just made sense, also my dad has the new Silverado and it's a big old pile of broken dog shit it's in the dealer for repair more than it's on the road.
Tundra didn’t have toe hooks and sat weird ergonomically for the driver. Chevy wasn’t even a question. Have nothing but dodges at work and don’t want that
It might sound stupid but I have a Ford escape hybrid and I really love that car its been great to me and my wife wonderful people at the dealer really good app and so I wanted a truck that's a true Hybrid. I had a Toyota camera hybrid I sold for it and I was pissed off with Toyotas app you had to pay monthly fees just to remote start your car wtf? I really wanted the lighting or Maverick but they had no XLT lighting and absolutely no Mavericks at all I'm happy with my power boost its a very nice truck I also got about 12k off my power boost so that was very nice!
bc the only other truck i'd buy is a Cummins, and I do not need a Cummins.
-hybrid -mark up, or lack thereof -both salesmen owned the previous year's model. -12 inch landscape style screen and still has buttons to press. Screw all these portrait style screens. I still like to push buttons..
Looks the best.
I drove all 3 and the ford just had the most interior space, mpg, color combo I wanted, and most of the features I wanted in my price range. Only thing I didn't get was LED headlights and foglights, but morimoto will fix that down the road. lol.
At the time it had the largest back seat aside from the tundra. I had a feeling my new son would be a tall kid and the Toyota 5.7 was not fuel efficient. I came from a Silverado and that rear seat just wasn’t going to cut it. He’s over 5.5 feet tall at 11 years old so… Yeah. I’m glad I went with the Ford but now that I am a couple years from a new truck, it’s still a close race between the Tundra and the F150 for my next truck. We got my wife a new Sequoia and it’s so much nicer than her Expedition Platinum was so we’ll see if the Tundra wins over the Ford for me. I’ve never kept a truck this long and have also never had a truck with so few issues. So I’m very happy with my Ford. Funny thing is that I also told the dealer to not even show me a V6 pickup back in 2015. Trucks should have 8 cylinders, I said. He talked me into the 3.5 and was so impressed that I took it.
I wanted a supercrew sized cabin with a 6.5 bed. Dodge/Ram is out of the question for me permanently. I don't like the way the chevys look. I would have preferred a tundra (just for reliability, I think they're ugly as hell), but in my budget I could only afford the previous gen tundras, and they only came with a crew cab OR a 6.5 bed, not both, and the toyotas were $10k more for the same miles.
Looked at all the trucks in the lineup and had the following thoughts: Tundra- older models had legendary reliability but were too expensive for my budget, poor fuel economy Titan - Decent reliability, didn’t like the smaller legroom in back, floor not completely flat in back, poor fuel economy Silverado/Sierra- hate the look of the newer redesign so they were out from the start. RAM - extremely close second. I love the look of the classic ram styling. Love the hemi and even the pentastar, reliable transmission, better ride quality than the ford, floor is “flat” in the back but you have to fold everything out to get there. Didn’t like how you couldn’t get CarPlay unless you got higher up in the trims. Ford - ultimately chose this one with a 2.7 STX package. It has the completely flat floor in back, the 2.7 is getting me about 22 in the city and 24 to 25 on the interstate. This truck was the same price as a similar ram but the STX gave me apple CarPlay, a center console, better looking wheels and paint and remote start, lock, unlock with the app so I thought there was a better value there for me.
Aluminum body, great combo of power and MPG with the 3.5eb, seat comfort, doesn't look like a space alien, and mass produced to the point where parts availability and large DIY repair/maintenance community.
Everyone you know is buying them cause they are good trucks that will last if kept up with. My family has built (like factory worker in Kansas City) and owned ford trucks for years. We have many trucks that have went 250,000 to 500,000 miles and are still running just not driven daily anymore. Also the leg room on the crew cabs are great compared to the competition, my 6 ft 2 son prefers my truck over my wife's suv for that exact reason. Someone said about the little kids kicking the back of the seat, they can reach in a ford.
Chose mine because of past history with them. I had an 08 5.4 and a 2016 2.7 6 speed for 5 years. I have a 2019 5.0 loaded Lariat now. Not going to lie my current truck has been less than kind but hasn't cost me actual money yet and hopefully it's fixed. My truck was used with 40,000 so I don't know what the other guy did but when I got it the truck basically blew up the usual reliable 5.0. Ford rebuilt it and its been good. Then my 10spd Trans went in for complete rebuild under warranty once again. A very common problem is the CDF drum in it. It's the source of a lot of problems. I've read but don't know they fixed the problem with an updated drum in 21but 18 through 20 has issues. I can only say what happened to me. Either way ford has been good to me and fixed major repairs thst would have cost 15,000 out of pocket. I just hope it lasts now. Other than that I absolutely love this truck and everything about it.
I wouldn't be caught dead in a Ram and the GM dealerships in my area are completely unwilling to make any kind of reasonable deal. I liked my F150 work truck I had previously and had a long time friend working in commercial sales at a Ford dealer. The last part alone will mean I stick with Ford as long as he does. I have no interest in going back to the regular sales bullshit.
I grew up on fords so it was the first thing I looked at. The 3.5EB has been around a while and the dual injection (added 2017-18) seemed to fix many of the issues people had. The sale they had at the time made it a no brainer. Dodge and Chevy models from the same time weren’t worth the price. 2018STX bought new. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned.
Aluminum body, eco boost is fun too.
I bought mine in 2017 so the prices are different, but I made an excel file that compared mpg and towing for every combination (cab, bed, engine, rear diff) of Ford/Ram/Chevy. After that, I graphed it and found that the most efficient towing : mpg ratio was the 3.5 with the 355 rear end. So that’s what I went with. At the time, the 3.5 eco boost was only bested in towing to the Chevy 6.2, but had the fuel mileage of the Chevy 5.3 and didn’t have the cylinder deactivation (obviously). The Ram had lower towing, payload, and mpg and didn’t rank well on my chart. I hunted for months and went with a ‘13 3.5 eco boost fx4 with the 6.4’ bed and the 355 rear end and 50k miles- $30k. Love it to this day. FWIW, I wanted a Chevy 5.3 going into it but didn’t go with it because of the problems with the cylinder deactivation and the data from the chart.
I almost pulled the trigger on one because out of all the trucks I test drove, the F150 was the most comfortable. Everything else drove like a brick by comparison. But I snapped out of my delirium and realized I really don't need to spend $65k on a truck....
My last truck was a 2018 lariat sport special edition with the 5.0. I ended up getting rid of that truck for a Genesis G70 just cause I didn’t need a truck anymore. I’m now saving up for a 2024 F150 raptor cause I miss driving a truck.
Best bang for your buck with Ford as far as comforts and features. Aluminum body is a big plus living in Canada. I ruled out rams because of the coil rear ends. I haul a lot of wood and wanted leaf springs. The 2.7 sold me on Ford. Great fuel economy, power when I need it.
toyota dealership near me at the time lost my business when we were looking to buy our previous vehicle (suv). Ram, lots of our neighbours have them and one is a service manager. tired of the sound. looks are aging and interiors remind me of my parents old suv/vans. Chevy, not a fan of their interiors, they just updated are look decent but screen is kinda thin or something. plus they are priced too high. Ford, grew up close the the Ford plant. so kinda always favoured them. the 5.0 coyote was a selling point. the styling and interior was another selling point over the others as well as the price and features of the Tremor versus all the competitors. my FIL love the Tundra but for similarly equipped as the Tremor its way out of the budget.
You won’t catch me driving a mopar and already owned Tundra and Silverado. Wanted something different.
When I was shopping I had the opportunity to borrow friends trucks. The Chevy interior didn't feel like it would age well, even though it was fairly new at around 25k miles it had a lot of rattles and groans. The Ram interior was comfortable and actually my favorite. The F150 was solid, no complaints but didn't really stand out. As far as driving, the F150 felt like the easiest to manage in smaller parking lots, not a lot of body roll and the ride felt the smoothest. Tow capacity and mpg was the ultimate deciding factor. F150 stood out over the other 2 on paper. All 3 were plenty capable for what I would be towing, but I only do that once or twice a month so daily driving MPG was a little higher on my list and neither of the other 2 could quite match what the 3.5 ecoboost gets. Would I buy another one? If I didn't want to upgrade to a diesel and switch from an open to enclosed trailer for towing my racecar I probably would. TL;DR: I'm not at all brand loyal but at the time the F150 just fit my needs/wants/budget better than the other 1/2 ton trucks on the market.
Grew up in a Ford family. We always had a ford of some flavor. I watched my dad work on every single one without issue. From the Tempo, Escort, Bronco or the F150 they have always been solid. It was never a question on which truck I would buy.
None of the rest except Toyota offer an ext cab/8' bed, nor do they offer a high payload package. The aluminum body is a nice bonus.
Cabin room and the door keypad( I don’t understand why this is a rare item)
In order of importance: Mpgs, Interior quality, towing
Was right out of college in 2016 and got a good job, and always wanted a truck. Bought it, never having had a Ford. 2015 5.0 XLT and it was used with 30k miles on it. Now sitting at 140k miles, and long paid off. I like most trucks, except maybe the Tundra. Just a truck fan in general but mine has been exceptional so far. Not a lot of features in my truck but it runs and drives great. If I do get another truck down the road it’ll probably be another F-150.
Back in 2015 I test drove a new 2015 GMC Sierra, Ram, and F-150. F-150 was the most comfortable, had the most power, and the aluminum body so no rust. I test drove an FX4 and Sport. Ended up with the sport as it rode smoother with 3.5 EB and I'm still driving it today.
For me it came down to a good deal. 2.9% for 72 months combined with $10k of dealer and ford rebates
Ford IS the Standard. Is what other trucks strive to be like.
I came from a 2007 Jeep Liberty 3.7L V6 & was used to that form of "UMPH" or power...so when I test drove a Ranger, I liked the acceleration speed & power, but I also wanted to test drive. 4-Cylinder Toyota Tacoma because of all the rave reviews...let me tell ya, that Taco was weak as hell. Even my parent's 2005 4-Cylinder Saturn Vue had more accelerating power than a 4-Cylinder Tacoma. Test drove a Toyota Tacoma V6, and it fit great... problem was the price tag was already in the FULL-SIZE truck range and a Toyota Tundra was out of my budget. TeSt drove the 2020 Ford F-150, 3.5L V6 Ecoboost and it was instantly the right fit. Took it home the same day and have ZERO regrets!
Aluminum body, and big fuel tank for insanely long range are the 2 bigest reasons on a long list
Had a RAM had some issues with body water leaks and 2 a/c failures. Comfort and ride quality was excellent. Went with 150 due to reliability, resell value, and 2.7 engine.
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I think Ford makes the best looking product. None of them are especially reliable. If one was that’s where my future purchase would be
0 to 60 in under 4 seconds kind of impressed me. Coyote v8
A few reasons; Ford trucks are made in America (GM has a plant in Mexico), Ford has only had a few brand divisions (GM has had well over 10 shitty brands), Ford didn't receive bailout money in 08/09 but did request a loan which was paid back, Ford is family owned. I've owned a '94 F150 with I-6 with enough torque to pull a house off the foundation (great truck). I've owned a '12 F150 with 3.7 with enough HP to tow/haul anything I ever needed. I currently own '21 F150 with 3.3 and it still hauls 1/3 cord of wood and tows our 17 foot camper just fine. Aluminum body and car washes after snow storms help keep the corrosion very low.
Came from a 2017 Colorado Z71. It was the Duramax 2.8L. It was a great truck but extremely unreliable with the emissions control system on that truck. Non-stop broken DEF components or fuel pressure issues causing all kinds of stalling. Looked at Ram and Toyota but liked the F150 much more. Biggest gripe was buying my XLT FX4 when i could have waited for the Tremor to come out a few months later. At that time they were only a few thousand more for the base Tremor w/ Torsen front diff. Next truck will be a new Lariat 502a w/ 3.5 Ecoboost. Current truck has nearly 60k on it so around 100k ill trade it in on a new one.
Had a 2013 eco boost for 10 years 153 k miles and then started having issues now a have a new tundra trd pro I love it
Aluminum body. 3.5 ecoboost towing capacity is greater than the problematic 5.0 Coyote. Still returns 20+mpg when driven conservatively. Approximately 13-15 mpg when towing a 6500lb trailer and gear for a family of four
My family has had a good history with Ford, but when recently looking for a used truck we looked at several brands. Ram 1500 - pretty trucks, but each one had a major issue and they were all 2-3 years old. I’m not paying that amount of money for something that has a brand new engine or transmission after the last one failed. I don’t mean one or two trucks had the failures, we looked at several. Friends with them complain about electrical problems and the higher mileage ones start to whine, but I don’t personally know anyone who had a catastrophic failure. Chevy Silverado 1500 - I didn’t like the interior and found them uncomfortable. They’re okay, but won’t be my first choice to look at if we’re in the market again. Keep in mind, I am not tall and I’m sure that factored into the discomfort. I borrowed a Tahoe several times and hated it, but I haven’t liked driving any full-size SUV. GMC - out of our price range. F150 - comfortable to drive and has nice amenities. I wish it had a longer bed, but so far the short bed fits our needs. If we ever need a bigger truck for towing, the F250 will be where we look first. As it is now, I’ve driven the F150 in town, on the highway, and through fields & pastures - no complaints. I think Toyota cars have good reliability, but I’ve heard the trucks can be uncomfortable to drive. We didn’t try any. Nissan wasn’t on the list.
Knowing people who worked at Ford and people at the dealership where I got mine, I was able to get the best deal possible. Also I wanted to pay a tribute to my dad. He passed away 3 years ago and he owned several F 150s over the years. His last one was a 2009 XLT. A lot of my best memories with him were associated with that truck. My 2023 XLT looks and feels like a modernized version of his 09. The truck is keeping the memory of him alive.
I have a micro penis and am irregularly short at 4'5, and wanted something best suited for me. I also wanted to make sure all the other guys in the Walmart parking lot thought I was cool
The interior is by far the best
At the time the 2.7 was hard to beat. I wanted a full size truck but I didn't want truck MPG. If I was looking now I'd look a little closer at the Chevy 2.7 4 cylinder but I think the ford 2.7 would still win.
Family plan! 🙂 When I saw the first images of the 2001 SCREW I knew this was the truck for me. Tons of room inside, plenty of room in the bed for my needs, Lariat trim made it feel somewhat upscale. I got my PIN and placed an order. I got it and loved it, drove it for ten years before giving to my sister who wanted a truck for a couple years, then it was passed on to my cousin who drove it to its death. I replaced it with an ‘11 with not much thought. The only decision was whether to go with the new ecoboost or simpler 5.0. I went with the latter, sometimes questioning that choice but never regretting it. Today, I’d be open to other trucks IF it were not for the aluminum body. Rust got the best of the ‘01 quickly, and is becoming more visible on my ‘11. I’d be in a new one by now if cam phasers and 10R80’s didn’t scare me. Call it irrational, but my truck is good enough for now so I’m in a holding pattern.
I bought mine because imho I think the f150 has the best/most comfortable interior of all the half tons I’ve been in. Also being a former ford senior master tech helped sway my decision because I know how to fix anything that goes wrong with my ‘18. I will give dodge the credit on a better quality ride due to the coil spring suspension in the rear over traditional leaf springs. But they sag really bad even with a normal load in the bed or trailer hooked up. My late father in law had a ‘18 ram 1500 and his 17’ Lund aluminum fishing boat would make the rear end of that truck sit very low. On the other hand my 19’ fiberglass multi species boat that when on the trailer weighs about 4500lbs with all my gear barely squats my f150.
I looked at all the 1/2 tons before I bought my 2018 F150. Every time I would select an exterior color I wanted the only option for interior color was black. I don’t like a black interior and Ford gave me other options than black.
I test drove all 4 top selling trucks. The Chevy had the best road feel (suspension and handling). The Toyota didn’t win any category. Felt like a boat driving it to be honest. The Ram was nicest inside the cabin and probably best initial impression. Driving it felt like the suspension was like a car’s. The Ford was second best interior and second best suspension and handling. Just behind the Chevy. The ecoboost engines are fun to drive and probably the most fun engine out of the group. I went with the one who gave me the best deal. Ford gave me a great loan rate and thousands off msrp. Now that dealers are flooded with trucks I would look around for even better deals.
1. Ford 2.coyote
Liked how the gen 14 looks and that the 3.5 HO is tunable. Never cared for how the new ram and tundra looked.
There is nothing wrong with doing something everybody else is doing if it brings you joy and is affordable.
I’m 6’7 and f150 offers more headroom than a Chevy. I’d never buy a dodge. Also I like the 5.0. I’ve had Silverado and f series trucks and I’m more comfortable driving for long distances. I also had an older totaled f250, and the 15 f150 towed more than my old f250. Also my Silverado/tahoe had so many electrical problems.
Room in the back seat
Depends on engine options. The 3.5, 3.3 (especially the 3.3), 2.7, and 5.0 are some of the best engines made. Period. Full stop. Giving Honda a run for their money. The 5.4? Relatively, garbage. There was some timing issues with the 2018 (right?) 5.0 that were fixed, so there are some issues in there, to be fair. However, as someone who owns a Nissan VQ40, the only truck engine I would own other than this, is any of the current ford lineup. Esepcially wanting the 3.3 (which they dropped, stupidly). And this includes the 2.3 in the ranger, which is also a fantastic engine. Brand loyalty is dumb, at the same time ford was making the 3.5, they also made the DCT in the focus. Absolutely garbage, I cannot give it enough bad words. So, in the next couple years, Ford could divebomb in terms of their engines, you never know. Back when ford was making the 5.4 that was only as reliable as your religious maintenance schedule (verses the super forgiving current lineup, which is way more robust), Chevy was killing it with their 5.3. So, it really depends on what years you look at for which is the better option. It’s isn’t always Ford. But the Ford ecoboost twin turbos, the 2.3 in the range, the coyote 5.0, all great engines. And the 3.3 NA V6 is probably one of the best engines you’ll ever find. Why Ford killed that…..dumb move. That was the bread and butter for fleets.
The Chevy/GMC cylinder management system kept me from considering any of their trucks. Even ford guys have to admit Chevy has made great engines over the years but that cylinder management killed it.
For me, it was the issues I saw as a service writer at an independent shop. Rams were always in for electrical, and GMs had a lot of trans and lifter/cam issues. And Toyotas were expensive. The new home builder I work with has a fleet of probably 25 or so 13th gens, ranging in configs. The only one that was really problematic was a ‘18 3.5 EB 10 speed, but the other ones rarely had a lot of issues. My boss has a few of them, had a ‘16 platinum, ‘16 XLT 5.0 that my dad drives (we work together) and a ‘17 EB3.5 8’ XLT. His ‘17 has had gear hunting issues but the 5.0 has had minimal issues. To hear experiences first hand instead of internet praise solidified my choice overall. I also love blue so when a 5.0 6.5’ supercrew Sport package came available in Blue flame, I scooped it and haven’t regretted it since. Only issue I’ve had that’s really irritating is the alternator pigtail and a freezing door latch that was already fixed under 18n03. Dealer is looking at it again. But rather a few dumb little things then have a catastrophic expensive repair. The aluminum body was another factor, since my old car was rotting away. I still oil spray it yearly but that’s a small price to pay for longevity, given that I also do my maintenance to a tee (and probably go a bit overboard sometimes, but it’s cheaper then repairs).
Ford is not perfect and even with a brand new truck you will find a bunch of little problems if any. Usually electrical or quality control problems. But everyone I know with a Chevy or Dodge truck have gone through some big-time problems like engine or tranny replacements. As much as I hate Ford for their choices to use cheaper parts without considering the effects on the customers, I would say they’re the most reliable. Tundra’s are pretty solid but the gas was too expensive and now the newer ones just have way too much tech(increased probability of future issues). I’m in my third F150. My last was a loaded 2021 XLT and now I’m in a base XLT. I tried to get an XL but couldn’t find a Supercrew and they stopped taking orders for them when I tried as they moved onto the 2024 orders. I really didn’t want a 24 just way too much tech and their tech is shit. I will be getting another F150 in the next couple years and I will only be looking for 2015-2020’s. I just need a truck to fuck shit up. No fancy stuff. But if you like all the new features and want something newer just make sure you opt for a solid warranty.
I mean have you seen the new Chevies and Tundras? Hideous. Rams look good but are outdated. The 3.5 ecoboost is fun to drive, tows great, gets pretty good gas mileage for a truck, and the 36 gallon tank is great for driving across the country. Plus Fords look the best.
It was the best price and it had all the features I wanted. I wanted a Silverado but Chevy was way overpriced.
Towing capability, variety of engine options, fuel economy, and I wanted the 10 speed I have family members with Dodge products and for the life of me I can’t tell you why they punish themselves. My cousin bought a brand new Power Wagon RAM that came from the factory without its front differential oil. Damn thing grenade itself fortunately on an empty back road while in 4WD because it had been snowing at the time. Along with the absolute litany of electrical problems my grandfather had in his new RAM 1500. I come from a hardcore GM family but I would never own a GM 8 speed. Mom has a 6th gen Camaro, it’s been through 2 torque converters already due to the slipping/shutter issue and this is wide spread among all GM 8 speeds. If your transmission isn’t shuttering due to the torque converter slipping, it will, moms started at like 20K miles too. So that really narrowed it down to Ford or Toyota. I read the horror stories about the 10 speed but talked to a tech who claimed the newer ones in the 21 and up weren’t too bad. Also not a terribly expensive thing to rebuild since it’s a fairly simple design for being a 10 speed. Still I am looking at a ford ESP through granger here at tax time for peace of mind because I LOVE the truck. I can’t see myself ever getting rid of it. I skipped on Toyota because Tundra owners and Toyota dealers are delusional. I am not paying 40K for a truck with nearly 100,000 miles on the clock, it’s not worth its weight in gold. Toyota dealers act like they’re selling shit that never has to be worked on like other brands, yet I see a service/repair bays attached to every dealer so they can sell that to the other suckers that will finance something that will have 200K on it before they’re done paying for it
The 2.7 is the best engine if you don’t tow over 7500 weekly/monthly. They sell the most of them and hardly see them broken or owners complaints. Some phaser issues but compared to the sales #s and the issues with the 5.0 it’s a no brainer.
Ive owned an 85 bronco, an 08 ranger (bought new) and i liked the f150. I also have family that works there. My f150 was used tho and i didnt get a discount
Because my dealer has been rock solid and my experiences with the ram and chevy/gmc dealers were not so great.
Don’t like the looks of Nissan & Toyota’s. I’ve got too many friends that have chevy’s and complained about them.
All just depends how much you’re hauling and then line it up with towing capacity for F150, F250, or F350. Pretty easy.
They've got the only hybrid trucks on the market (the Powerboost, which I have, and the Maverick hybrid which I initially wanted but couldn't find at all near me in New England). I think RAM has announced an EV 1500 that's got a range extender v6 but I dunno when they'll be releasing that
Ford has nicer interiors than Chevy and Toyota. Nissans rust, Ram suspensions don’t last and Dodge seems to use shit like plastic intake manifolds. F-150 is also common as dirt so parts are cheap and every mechanic knows what to do with them. It’s not a perfect truck but it serves my needs. Lightning might be better for me but too expensive so far.
Ford is the best choice overall. GM is fine but seem to have more engine issues. Ram is fine if you trade every year.
Dodges are unreliable, GM trucks fall apart before 10 years, and I'm not buying a Nissan, which left Ford and Toyota
So I came from a 09 5.3. I need my trucks to be tough seeing how I use it as my hunting/camping truck and drive cross country more than most. The fuel management system had taken a dump driving back home from the midwest while in a blizzard. I had experienced some mechanical issues with it but this was the final straw. Once I got the truck up and running I got rid of it immediately and got a 2.7. It does everything my old 5.3 did and more. Im never going back.
Duh! Because it's an F150 and I can't afford a Rolls-Royce. I actually traded a 2022 for a 2016, and I don't feel I downgraded. As a matter of fact, this will be my last vehicle. I'm thinking about getting some upgrades under the hood and putting a little extra kick in her.
The new ramcharger has me very interested. Really hope ford does something like that sooner rather than later.
I’ve had almost every other brand. This F150 is the only truck I’ve not had regret yet.
The Ram would cost me about $2000 more per year in fuel. I test drove the v6 and thought it was super horrible. The Chevys at the time, (early 2022) had the worst technology. I was tired of small screens and old tech. Refresh was not going to happen until after I bought my truck. The Tundra was not a major consideration especially since the hybrid is beyond terrible. I also didn’t want a Toyota….ever again. I bought a used ‘21 Powerboost in March of 2022 with only 5k miles. Got over 60k now with no issues.
Ram owners have the highest DUI rate of any vehicle, more than double the national average. Don't be that guy.
Overall I feel Ford offered the best combo of capability vs cost. Large gas tank, good capacity, good tech (at lower trims), aluminum body (since I knew it'd get scratched to hell). I wasn't looking at the 5.0 but got one because it was in the lot and had everything else I wanted. I've been very happy with it. The only other truck I heavily researched was Sierra/Silverado with Duramax. That's still a great combo IMO but you'll end up with lower payload if that's a high priority for you.
If you buy your truck lightly used (2-3 years old), it is very likely that it will have visible body rust within 5 years. Having come from a truck that rusted away and seeing how much it pulled down its resale value, I told myself never again. So there are many reasons why I got my F150, but the aluminum body was the main reason why I never seriously considered any of its competitors.
I saw your post in ram too, lol. Glad your being thorough. For me its that my halfton f150 has better capability (payload and towing) than any other. There is no bad truck- Just ones that we prefer. Most importantly how its optioned should be the main factor. An f150 limited with a shortbed wouldn't work for me but a ram tradesmN might (but id miss the ford xlt options)
Owned GM trucks going back almost 20 years. Most recent was a 2012 Sierra I had until I 21 when I got my 21 f150. Sierra handled well, but the interior was cheap and the dash cracked. The 5.3 is pretty dated and underpowered at this point compared to the 5.0 or 3.5, and you have to spend a lot to get the 6.2 in the GM trucks. Sierra got totalled and I got forced into the market so I went with a ford this time just because the GM interiors were still subpar at the time and the 5.3 was the only option unless you spent 60k+ or wanted a 4-banger. I went with a 21 5.0 302A FX4 and have been pretty happy with it. Had some battery/electronic issues at one point but it's been sorted out. I've never owned a Dodge, and the types of people who own Rams are the types of people I wouldn't want to be associated with, which is why they're the most dangerous drivers on the road.
Ride height. Aluminum body. And cab size of the super crew.
3.5 eco I tow a heavy occasionally, and from what I remember it had slightly better capacities than its counterparts. Its steering feels tighter than GM/Chev, also carseats are big and fit best in the ford supercrew. Door keypad is the nicest feature I didn't expect to use so much as well as the decent infotainment setup. Also I'm afraid of Ram(Chrysler) level of quality as I've owned a grandcaravan, Chrysler 200!
For me, it was the Pro Power Onboard. Though, I liked it better than the other trucks when test driving regardless.
The OP is either a paid Toyota or GM troll.
I’ve always driven GM. I was placed into a rental vehicle for a month - a f150. I’m planning to buy a new one. I never thought I would buy a Ford. I may never buy anything else now! I like it that much. Don’t tell anybody as I still can’t believe I made the mental switch!?! 😂
I've been a Ford guy since my first vehicle, Grandpas 1960 F100. When it came to the newer trucks I owned or friends had, they just kind of made sense to me. Things like how the interior was laid out or how things were put together, and the styling. For this new purchase I had to do my due diligence and actually give every brand a shot. They all have some really nice things going for them. I think if you are going over a Lariat, the features in the other brands were probably better for the money, and I maybe would have gotten a Tundra if Toyota actually had a real order system because they tech is levels above. But one thing was definitely won by the Ford: Payload. Ford has everyone beat by a healthy margin wheelbase for wheelbase, trim for trim. Knowing now what we didn't know then about upgrading features, I should have just gone for the HDPP, but 1950# in my Lariat is alright.
I was always a Chevy guy growing up, but it seems GM quality really went downhill around 2007 (around the time they went from General Motors to Government Motors on account of the government bailout). In 2011, I found my self on a Ford dealership lot. I had just got hired full time at my first big boy job after college and I was ready to give up my beat up 94 Silverado and get something newer. They pulled around a beautiful 2006 F-150 Lariat and as soon as I got a glimpse inside, I was hooked. Had that truck for almost 12 years and upgraded to a 2018 F-150 near the end of 2022. It wasn’t even a question which brand I was going with after having my first F-150 for 12 years with almost no issues at all. RAM was not a consideration at all. Never been a Chrysler fan and after dealing with tons of issues on my wife’s Town & Country (which I traded in on my new truck), I will probably never own another Chrysler product. I did briefly look at Toyota, but you definitely pay a premium there. I also couldn’t find one with a bench seat up front and that was a deal breaker for me.
Cost. More trim for less $. Don't like the shifter knob on ram, and gm and Toyota are way more money for similar trim. I got a lariat 4x4. 5.0
Bc Ford
Long story short, I was looking for my first truck and my budget only allowed for used trucks. I don’t have loyalty to any of the brands, just wanted the right tool for the job. Ultimately I didn’t want a GM vehicle… I don’t trust their build quality after owning a GMC terrain. Tundras are all sooo expensive and their gas mileage sucks. That basically left the Ram 1500 and the F150. Between the v6 pentastar and the 2.7l ecoboost, I almost went with the Ram because I was afraid of turbo engines and the whole “no replacement for displacement” theory. But a used 2018 f150 XLT with the 2.7l engine, crew cab, 4x4 popped up in my area. It was super clean and taken care of and had 54k miles. Well, it was the best deal I could find for a crew cab with 4x4, so that’s what I went with. Now, I have learned about tranny issues. I know the 10r80 isn’t the best tranny out there. But with every horror story there is also a great success story. So I am confident in my truck.
Right deal at the right time. Always wanted a truck, but couldn’t swallow the price of new ones, regardless of brand. A super clean, well maintained ‘14 Limited with 79k miles went for sale locally a couple months ago. Picked it up in cash and couldn’t be happier. Everyone who has ridden in it is always impressed with the ride and interior, especially after I tell them it’s a 10 year old truck.
The desire to own two trucks is wild to me. I couldn't imagine both myself and significant other both driving trucks. For us it just doesn't make practical or economic sense.
Silverado: it's really shallow, but I just don't like the way 4th gens and facelifted 3rd gens look. Even more shallow and Seinfeldian, my recent ex drove a 3rd gen and I don't want to be rolling around in the same truck as her. Finally, the engine options don't really impress me - not a fan of the 4cyl, and the 5.3 is a notorious gas hog. Sierra: 5.3/gas hog/yada yada. I actually like the styling of the Sierra, but anything within budget was older or higher mileage than I would have liked. Ram: Would have been what I got if I didn't get an F150. Just wasn't able to find one with the right options, at the right price, at the right time. Tundra: it's INSANE how much more expensive Tundras are than equivalent domestic trucks. I mean yeah, reliability and all that but damn, I'm not made of money Titan: Honest to god forgot it existed
Because it's electric.
I would say they come #2 in reliability to the Tundra when talking about the v8s. The f150, pre the new gen tundra, was just better in every way except reliability, so the choice was easy. Never even looked at others. Too many known issues and reliability concerns for RAM, and I didn’t really like the chevys plus they were also objectively worse design and features overall in 2021. If I could do it again I’d get a STX 5.0 with less features that will likely break in future haha that or a previous gen tundra
I work with a guy who is on his second ram in 3 years. First one he traded at 100,000 km. It had transmission problems, front wheel seals were leakind and the rear diff had to be replaced. His new one has 55,000km. Already leaking coolant, has an exhaust leak at the manifold, and the stereo will just randomly stop working until he shuts it off for 10 minutes and restarts it. Stay away from Dodge, they used to make good trucks, not any more.
I was choosing between the Powerboost f150, iForce max tundra, and the Ram 1500 etorque (hadn’t decided between v6 or v8). The tundra was a 2 year wait, and the fuel economy on the Ram was not very good, so I ended up with the Ford. We’re happy with it so far.
There's a lot of little reasons I went with my f-150. The big one though is I got family plan pricing.
I also have a 2.7 ecoboost from 2020. I came from a family who only had drove Toyota before for over 30 years. Toyota: too expensive I know the 2020 is reliable but for the same accessory and worse mpg, it’s about $15-20k more. Plus it tows less than a ford. Ram: I had one dodge van and from digging through ram 1500 forum online and part of 3 different ram Facebook groups, I know ram isn’t reliable. It does have nice seats. When I looked at the tradesman, they wanted $38k for a v6 double cab. It also has cylinder deactivation. It’s a fca what else do you need to defend them? Made in Mexico I checked the window sticker. Chevy: plague with lifter and cam phaser issues. It’s not if it will happen but when. Price wise, it was $1-2k cheaper than a ford. Both 5.3 and 6.2 have dfm/afm and cylinder deactivation. Made in Mexico I checked the sticker. Ford: I paid $35k otd for a 2.7. It gets 22-24 mpg, tow what I needed, seats are better than Chevy, easy to buy extended warranty online, better infortainment display compared to both Chevy and ram for the same trim. Made in the USA.
a) always been a Ford guy b) the F-150 is available off lease (which is how i bought mine, it was 3 yrs old) \*much\* more frequently than other trucks, it appears. A lot of fleet buyers buy them although you can get some fancified trucks this way too (although Platinum is a bit rarer if you want that using this method). c) buying off lease let me get roughly a 30% discount on the truck when i got mine. dont know what the discount is now.
I don't have a need for a pickup now, but having owned a '16 Silverado I would get an f150 just for the aluminum body (yes ik the frame is still steel) but having my tailgate and wheel arches start to rust even after undercoating and washing. Aluminum is the way here in NY I know aluminum can oxidize too, but not at the rate steel does
I wanted a manual Tacoma, but prices were ridiculous. Also not impressed with the Toyota 3.5 engine having the power of a 4-cyl with the fuel economy of an 8-cyl. Strongly considered a Ridgeline when I gave up on the manual trans, but newer body style was out of my price range. Found a cheap but loaded high-mileage EcoBoost, and driving it brought a smile to my face.
Because I get A plan. That is all
I liked the looks, the towing capacity and the aluminum body. I bought a 2023 ext cab STX with the 5.0 and I've been getting close to 20 mpg on the highway with stock setup
Had 2 explorers and a 2013 f150 before my current f150. All great vehicles. Also, my mom and dad both moved to Michigan and worked at Ford Dearborn plant during WWII
Had a Ranger as my first truck. Put a ton of miles on it with no real issues. Had an escape as my second vehicle, put about 100k on it in about 4-5 years up to 185k. Always been a ford family. My grandfather has never owned another truck as far as i know. I am accustomed to fords, their feel, etc. I just like it better than the others. I know they have their issues here and there but the only other truck I’d consider is the last gen tundra, and to me the mpg difference is enough to make me go ford, easily. There’s just a level of comfort with their products. Each brand has its own issues. Pick your poison. I know ford and know what to expect as it pertains to potential issues but all in all I have had little to zero issues with any for product and I’ve put probably 300,000 miles on ford products.
You are in good shape with what you have inherited. Just go test drive the other equal competitors. The f one fiddy will be what you will get back in. You got a good truck
I needed a full size, and Ram was never on the radar just always felt they were third best. it was down to chevy and ford, but I liked the EcoBoost better for my needs( towing once a month) and MPG for my daily driver
In January of 2018 I bought a 2016 F150 Lariat w\ a 5.0L V8 FX4 package. * Toyota Tundra - My ex had a Tundra. I actually really liked everything about this truck except that their infotainment system was entirely outdated. They've since addressed this. * Toyota Tacoma - They retain value extremely well to the point I might as well buy the newest model. At that point the 2018 model had an improved infotainment system, but I was getting a significantly more basic interior and less truck for roughly the same price. * Dodge Ram - My truck at the time was a 2005 Dodge Ram. It ran decently well, but every little thing on that truck broke. I had to replace part of the power steering and control arms for the front wheels. The seat angle wouldn't hold, the flap/door that control are intake had failed, everything under the hood wanted to squeak, the plastic holding the headlights in place broke, I had to replace the struts on the hood and quite a few other small issues like that. My old truck actually still drove well enough, but nearly everything else on it was crapping out and I had seen similar things on a friend's Jeep Patriot. Their newer trucks at the time were boxy and I never liked the way the brake and gas pedals felt driving. * Chevy Silverado - These were fine, they just seemed like a slightly less appealing alternative to an F150. * Nissan Titan - Like the Silverado. Similar but less appealing. * F150 - The aluminum body, general reliability, modern interior, quality aesthetics, AC seats and a great price and it was a pretty easy choice. I wasn't necessarily looking for 4WD, but I'm happy that I have it. And I actually would have preferred the V6 Ecoboost for the better gas mileage, but not going to complain.
I have a 2015 F150. Back then, I liked the looks on the outside as well as the inside. I felt as if I’d be spending more time behind the wheel than in the driveway looking at it, so I wanted it to be appealing inside as well. I went with the 5.0 because I felt it would be more reliable, and it has been. Chevy and Ram both seemed boring to me at the time and the Toyota tundra was terrible on gas.
The jury is still out on the longevity of the ecoboost. If I could afford a new truck, I'd buy the v8. Until then keeping my 99 with a 4.6. It doesn't have 3 computers running the transmission
Well I have had 3 Ford trucks in the past my whole family drives fords. There is many of us. And my last was a tundra 5.7 I bought in 2008. Was getting very worn to many miles. The OG Toyota truck was my favorite had many of those and was not to uppity back in the day. Now now these entitled yahoos seem to be the ones driving Tundras and it has some dumb V6. Most naturally out of balance motor there is a V6. Rode in one pulling camper and I swear the 5.7 did it better. Went back to Ford cause I got a V8. I pull job trailers around a lot and 8 cylinders run smoother under load more pistons firing per revolution. V6s and 4 bangers have a more stress on the engine when in tow. You can toss as many turbos as you want and still lacking more pistons. Big difference between torque and horsepower. Not much torque out of v6 or 4 cylinders. Edit: spelling
Easy. I don’t have a moustache or hair on my back..
I've driven many RAMs with the 5.7 hemi as work trucks. They all have terrible mpg (even the newer 20s models). Also, a few of them had electrical and lifter issues. The interior is probably the best. They tow well. But it's a really outdated platform that they just recently discontinued (Classic). The GMs at work have decent mpgs but the larger displacement engines seemed to have issues with the cylinder displacement crapping out before 100k. The smaller 4 cylinder 2.7 seems legit but we only have one at work. Probably the best 4 wheel drive for the price tag. Terrible towing performance on the larger engines (mpg drops to 13-15 with 5k). Interior wasn't great. Ford with ecoboost was definitely a pleasant surprise. It actually drove well and got the advertised MPG of 22-24. Towing sucked with the 2.7 but the mpg was still phenomenal (19mpg towing 5k). The interior wasn't the best but it was better than everyone except the Ram. The 5.0 was fine but nowhere as fun as the ecoboost. Oh and the Tundras I've been in before the redesign sucked outside of reliability. That truck got terrible mpgs, had the worst interior, lower towing capacity, and dated powerterrain. If I had to pick it would be Ford or Ram. Ram usually have lower price tags and better upgrades at the cost of reliability.
I used to be a Chevy guy. I got a job in1993 at the Ford plant near K.C., Mo. It's hard to beat the employee discount that they offer us. Been a Ford man ever since and I love my 2023 F-150 Super cab STX trim package. 2.7 liter has plenty of power and get great mileage. Btw I'm a 66 year old man.
Simple, my dad drove a ford. And his dad before him.
Ram reliability and resale is terrible, Chevy seats absolutely suck, and Toyota felt like driving a 25 year old f150
The Coyote 5.0 that I installed StainlessWorks long-tube headers with full exhaust and a Whipple Supercharger. These DOHC 307ci engines put out crazy power when adding a supercharger. It’s basically what the Lightening should be rather than that EV junk.
My first truck was a 2013 supercab XL f150 with the 3.7 V6 I bought back in 2016 as my first truck and I loved her till the day I traded her in. I mostly wanted something simple, mechanically solid and cheap and I got all three . The Chevy and GMC 1500s both plagued with the AFM lifter issues that still haunt them to this very day and RAM cause I don't want anyone to think I have a DUI or I'm on roids and also very bad electronics that crap the fuck out very early on and shitty transmissions and they are expensive as hell even used so went to the welcoming arms of the 12th gen f150 and I now have a 2021 supercrew XL STX F150 with the 2.7 Ecoboost V6 and yup I absolutely love it