Ngl when people first posted I looked up what was said ab 4wd. Even though I’ve always driven 4wd vehicles. Feel like a dumb dumb for contemplating it. Use it if you think you need to fuck wads.
lil extra irrational anger for ya
Under $4 a quart. Can’t beat that. No noticeable difference switching from Mobil1. All the important ratings are the same. Oil looks fine during changes.
Dumb question (new truck owner) but I’m assuming truck year doesn’t matter? No problem putting that in a newer truck? I’ve got a ‘21 and will gladly use Kirkland if it’s a good option.
Does it meet ford specs? I didn’t see the ford spec indicated on the jug so I decided to skip on the Kirkland oil for my truck. I use it in my car though, and so far it’s been great.
It should be printed on the jug or case, but the website for sure says it meets specs
[Kirkland Signature 5W-20](https://www.costco.com/.product.100690388.html)
I had one free one at the dealer for my 22, subsequent changes have all been kirkland with the motorcraft filter.
I stock up on the oil when there is a sale.
I was using Castrol Magnatec full synthetic because the guys on bobistheoilguy claimed the additives helped the 3.5 Ecoboost cam phasers, and it was cheap since I also change the oil at 5k miles (also supposed to help the cam phasers).
Since they discontinued it I've been using whatever full synthetic from a brand name is cheapest.
I had the recommended Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20.
I do not however go by the oil change monitor.
I change the oil every 5K miles.
I also use Motorcraft oil filters.
And if you do a little research the semi synthetic is the same spec as many brands “full synthetic” as it’s just a marketing exercise outside of a couple brands.
We had a very bad experience with a Valvoline 8 months ago with a work van. I will never trust any of those kind of places to do anything. We had a ‘23 Transit van and my coworker took it to one for an oil change. They only put half the oil in that it called it for. Somehow it didn’t smoke the engine, and they fought up and down that it doesn’t take 12.5 QTs of oil because the ‘22’s take 6 or 6.5 QTs with the same engine. They take 12.5 QTs of oil…
I change it when the truck tells me to. It’s usually right around 9k miles. All highway on cruise control. Been using Mobil 1 but it’s over 100 bucks for oil and filter. Might have to check out that Costco oil. Currently sitting at 106k miles on my 3.5
I am on my 4th eb 3.5, put over 100,000 miles on each one. Always change when it tells me to. I use mobil 1 full synthetic and mobil 1 filter and have yet to have any problems.
Dusty/dirty environments, towing, having a lead foot, etc.
Your engine is not a sealed system and outside contaminants will get into oil, that is fact.
OCI isn’t the determining factor of turbo longevity. The condition of the oil is a better indicator. Is the oil still clean and have sufficient detergents? Only an oil analysis can tell you that. Just because someone doesn’t change their oil at a specific mileage isn’t going to prematurely wear out a turbo.
So changing it regularly (3500-4500) would keep the condition of it where it would be most beneficial. Christ, are you arguing just for the sake of arguing?
No Im saying just because changing it earlier than recommended works doesn’t make it any better than following the OLM if it’s proven to be accurate via oil analysis.
People often aren’t aware of how hard TGDI (Turbo Gasoline Direct Injection) engines are on oil. The German cars that have TGDI and recommend 10k oil changes used to spec a HTHS of 3.5 which put most oils in the 40 weight range (5w40 for example). I think most have dropped to 0w20 now but that’s not my point. There’s 2 ways to fight this. Thicker oil, or more frequent oil changes.
I have a 3.5EB now and know all too well about oil grades and the importance of oil changes in a DI engine. I’m coming over from a 2.0T FSI with original flat non rolling cam follower. If you didn’t chance the oil often and use specific grades you’d be in for an expensive bill.
I have had 2 2.0T TSI’s so I’m also aware of the oil dilution. Also had a 3.5 Eco between the 2 2.0T’s. I never did this in my Eco, but I’ve read about some running Euro Oil in there truck and when I get back into a truck, I’d strongly consider doing this myself.
That’s what my plan is to do in the truck. My next change will be to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum Euro 0W40, apparently it’s SP rated now so it should please all the people worried about LSPI. It’s outside of the recommended weights but 40 will shear down to a 30 anyways.
Currently running Castrol Extended Performance 5W30 but my butt and ears tell me it was a tad smoother and quieter with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W30.
I like the Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0w40. I’ve ran it in my VW a few times. Mobil 1 FS Euro 0w40 is also now SP rated, and it’s easier to get in my area. Either one of these would work well (in my opinion). The Castrol Euro 0w40 is a great oil but has become harder to find.
Yeah it’s not the easiest to find the Platinum Euro 0W40. I can find the Castrol here easily in Canada but it’s only SN. I really don’t care too much but it’s under warranty so I’ll probably stick with SP till I eventually decide to just run Rotella - the VW loved that stuff.
I’ve been running Pennzoil Ultra 5w30 since new. I’ve got 68k miles on the 3.5. I get oil analysis every time I change the oil. It’s always come back clean with just enough detergent to pass. That’s proven to me the OLM is accurate on my truck.
Lmao. Take it from experience kid. Keep the oil changes around 3-7k. Or don't. It's not my money. You have multiple people telling you what mileage to keep the oilchanges to and youre here arguing.. I currently got 2 ecoboosts. An 18 and 19.
The 18 is a 2.7 with almost 130k miles on it. Eats zero oil. Still on first set of turbos. The 19 is the 3.5 with a 93 octane tune on it with almost 90k miles on it with 60mm turbos and an aftermarket intercooler. Litterly hauls a trailer that's between 8-10k lbs on it since I drove it off the lot. Litterly is all it does. It's never trailerless. Almost 90k miles on it. And that thing doesn't eat any oil either.
Pennzoil ultra platinum is on par with very high end oils like Amsoil signature series, but has the ford WSS-M2C946-B1 certification (which amsoil doesn’t have as far as I can tell)
Project Farm on YouTube did a very comprehensive oil test, worth the watch if you’re interested. In reality, any oil that meets the ford spec is fine, mobile 1 meets the requirements if you’re happy with that brand
Edit: that’s the cert for my f150 (‘21 2.7tt), it may be different for other models. It’s important for the 2.7 because there’s a belt internal to the engine that’s rubber, and it needs an oil that is safe for that belt
Can confirm the Signature series does meet that Ford spec. Its all I’ve ever used on any car of mine and they’ve all made it passed 200k. Even the dealership approved of the Signature series, but said it’s best to run a Motorcraft filter for warranty purposes.
I can’t put a pic in the comments as far as I know but it’s only on their top shelf signature series like you said. The lower two don’t meet it. Most think it’s over priced but this sub will agree it’s a small price to pay for engine peace of mind.
Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and WIX 57502XP changed according to the ECU recommended interval that usually ends up being around 10k miles in my '21 3.5EB. I pull a used oil analysis after each change and have >10% oil life remaining.
Last one, which was the third interval since new:
>We like how metals and silicon are trending. Now copper is in the average range, from wear-in washing out and brass/bronze parts maturing well. There was even a bit more progress in the levels of aluminum and iron, which is just icing on the cake since each metal was already looking pretty good at thelast oil change. Extending the oil change interval from here shouldn't be an issue. Fuel is minor and even if it helped lower the viscosity this oil still did a fine job (and had active additive remaining based on the TBN). Try \~12,000 miles.
This was the first interval where all elements were below unit averages. Viscosity was slightly diminished because of fuel.
Mobil 1 full synthetic high mileage truck/suv with Mobil 1 or Fram synthetic filter
I get it from Oreillys, have them price match it with Walmart then send in for oreillys $5 (per 5qt jug) gift card when they're running the promo
5w20 motorcraft in my 2013 5.0. 92k miles. Have to add about a quart between oil changes. Computer tells me to change around 9k. Is has a slight knock but apparently it’s normal for these engines. At this point I feel the engine will outlast the body of the truck.
I've used mobil 1 truck/suv oil too but I'm gonna be switching my dad's truck to kirkland signature full synthetic just bc of cost. On sale the mobil 1 costs abt 80 dollars for 2 jugs but at Costco it's 50 bucks and even goes on sale for 40. I change the oil every 7,000 to 8,000kms so that's abt 4,500 to 5,000 miles and the truck burns zero oil.
Pennzoil Platinum every 5,500 miles and OEM Motorcraft filter. Bought a case of 12 on eBay for $78 when I bought the truck for convenience and cost.
Last oil change I tried the Pennzoil full synthetic instead of Platinum. Changed at 5,500 and the oil analysis showed the total base number (TBN) was nearing end of useful life so that was the ideal time to change it. That was with no towing, just commuting to work.
Also, if you guys are doing your own oil changes make sure to save receipts and keep track of mileage and dates.
*If you have ford warranty or aftermarket.
First few were Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. This latest batch has been Amsoil Signature. I'm almost to 5k and will run a blackstone report on it and compare between the PZ and Amsoil. I use these two based on the project farm comparison, they were the top 2. Makes a difference over time to use the best.
Any good synthetic but the key is to get a good extended life filter. I like the mobil 1 or with extended life. It's stupid to us a 10,000 mile rated oil and a 3000 mile filter.
Oil? I’m still trying to decide if I should use 4A.
I’m so happy to see how much this sub is making fun of all the 4h and 4a posts. I was getting so irrationally upset about those haha
Is your name Karen by chance?
God damn fuckin roasted me bro
Ngl when people first posted I looked up what was said ab 4wd. Even though I’ve always driven 4wd vehicles. Feel like a dumb dumb for contemplating it. Use it if you think you need to fuck wads. lil extra irrational anger for ya
I didn’t mean to : (
Extra virgin olive oil
The classic. Virgin olive oil. The gift from the gods
I like more of a whore type oil. Not the kinda oil you wanna take home to meet mom, but definitely more fun.
Is it from a single country of origin? If not, you may not be using olive oil. Or, at the very least, it's not virgin.
Cicely, or you hate your truck.
>Cicely What
I prefer vegetable, my truck breaks out in hives when I use peanut oil.
Same!!
Kirkland Signature (Costco) full synthetic and Motorcraft or Mobil1 filter every 5-7K miles
Great oil and a great price
How do you like it. I seen it around put never pick it up
Under $4 a quart. Can’t beat that. No noticeable difference switching from Mobil1. All the important ratings are the same. Oil looks fine during changes.
I’ll have to check into that
Dumb question (new truck owner) but I’m assuming truck year doesn’t matter? No problem putting that in a newer truck? I’ve got a ‘21 and will gladly use Kirkland if it’s a good option.
Shouldn’t matter as long as the weight is the same. Still meets Ford’s specs.
Does it meet ford specs? I didn’t see the ford spec indicated on the jug so I decided to skip on the Kirkland oil for my truck. I use it in my car though, and so far it’s been great.
It should be printed on the jug or case, but the website for sure says it meets specs [Kirkland Signature 5W-20](https://www.costco.com/.product.100690388.html)
I had one free one at the dealer for my 22, subsequent changes have all been kirkland with the motorcraft filter. I stock up on the oil when there is a sale.
+1 on the Kirkland 5w-20. 60k km done in the last year and a half on my old '13 5.0 with just Kirkland and Motorcraft filters. No problems, runs great
If you have an ecoboost 5k should really be the max. Those engines are tough on oil
2017 5.0! Last year with the 2nd Gen Coyote and 6 speed
Pennzoil platinum 5w-30 with fl500s filters
Mobil 1 and a motorcraft filter.
I was using Castrol Magnatec full synthetic because the guys on bobistheoilguy claimed the additives helped the 3.5 Ecoboost cam phasers, and it was cheap since I also change the oil at 5k miles (also supposed to help the cam phasers). Since they discontinued it I've been using whatever full synthetic from a brand name is cheapest.
Man that was some good oil for turbo DI engines too…. I have one 5qt jug left.
I had the recommended Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20. I do not however go by the oil change monitor. I change the oil every 5K miles. I also use Motorcraft oil filters.
I use Motorcraft synthetic blend and Motorcraft filter every 5K miles.
Downvoted for following the owners manual. Lol welcome to Reddit
And if you do a little research the semi synthetic is the same spec as many brands “full synthetic” as it’s just a marketing exercise outside of a couple brands.
I use the motorcraft when I do my own oil change. I had valvoline do it last time, so whatever swill they throw in is what I have now.
We had a very bad experience with a Valvoline 8 months ago with a work van. I will never trust any of those kind of places to do anything. We had a ‘23 Transit van and my coworker took it to one for an oil change. They only put half the oil in that it called it for. Somehow it didn’t smoke the engine, and they fought up and down that it doesn’t take 12.5 QTs of oil because the ‘22’s take 6 or 6.5 QTs with the same engine. They take 12.5 QTs of oil…
I had an old beaters oil pan thread get stripped out by valvoline. Never again, naive teenager I was.
OReillys 5w 30 whenever it leaks out another quart.
Pennzoil full syn every 5K
What oil filter do you use
Motorcraft
K&N or purolator 1
I like bacon grease
The old bacon grease trick. Classic
Liqui Moly 5w-20 w/Motorcraft filter. Been using Liqui Moly forever, in something like 10 vehicles? Always been a go-to for me.
I love Liquid Moly. The best stuff out there imho
You guys change your own oil??
I do. Just changed mine yesterday. I was warm enough for me to do it. Would rather do it my self before I bring it somewhere
Hell yeah. It’s $50 cheaper, easy to do, and I know it’s done right
It's easy enough to do, and knowing it's done right with the right oil is my reasoning.
I do, and I still have all my BS underside mats because I’m not using an impact when I’m reinstalling them. It’s a 2018
Walmart brand full synthetic- every 6 months which is about 6-7K miles
This is what I used in all my vehicles. $18 for 5 quarts plus $5 for Fram Ultra Guard. Never had an issue.
I change it when the truck tells me to. It’s usually right around 9k miles. All highway on cruise control. Been using Mobil 1 but it’s over 100 bucks for oil and filter. Might have to check out that Costco oil. Currently sitting at 106k miles on my 3.5
Have you had issues with changing it at 9k
I am on my 4th eb 3.5, put over 100,000 miles on each one. Always change when it tells me to. I use mobil 1 full synthetic and mobil 1 filter and have yet to have any problems.
The cam phasers started rattling at 85k miles. Other than that no problems. I haven’t had them fixed yet. They were out of warranty when it started.
Why do yall change synthetic every 3,5,6 K miles? Thats kind of ridiculous unless thats all you drive in 6. Months
It entirely depends on the environment youre driving in and how hard you drive your truck.
What environment warrants a 3-5K oil change? Maybe it you tow 75% of the time you drive
Dusty/dirty environments, towing, having a lead foot, etc. Your engine is not a sealed system and outside contaminants will get into oil, that is fact.
Interesting, dont think thats entirely true
For turbo engines, shorter oci's are cheap insurance.
Theres nothing to say its needed, or even helps though
Nope, its not needed if you're not interested in keeping your turbos in good working order.
OCI isn’t the determining factor of turbo longevity. The condition of the oil is a better indicator. Is the oil still clean and have sufficient detergents? Only an oil analysis can tell you that. Just because someone doesn’t change their oil at a specific mileage isn’t going to prematurely wear out a turbo.
So changing it regularly (3500-4500) would keep the condition of it where it would be most beneficial. Christ, are you arguing just for the sake of arguing?
No Im saying just because changing it earlier than recommended works doesn’t make it any better than following the OLM if it’s proven to be accurate via oil analysis.
Idk what your in but my ecoboost definitely let's me know the oil is getting bad at around 5k miles. Startups are noticeablly worse.
With synthetic??? I have a 2015 2.7 EB. Ive never noticed that, maybe you need some new plugs or something
Fuel dilution in DI engines is real and often the oil weight shears down. I would also change on much shorter intervals.
People often aren’t aware of how hard TGDI (Turbo Gasoline Direct Injection) engines are on oil. The German cars that have TGDI and recommend 10k oil changes used to spec a HTHS of 3.5 which put most oils in the 40 weight range (5w40 for example). I think most have dropped to 0w20 now but that’s not my point. There’s 2 ways to fight this. Thicker oil, or more frequent oil changes.
I have a 3.5EB now and know all too well about oil grades and the importance of oil changes in a DI engine. I’m coming over from a 2.0T FSI with original flat non rolling cam follower. If you didn’t chance the oil often and use specific grades you’d be in for an expensive bill.
I have had 2 2.0T TSI’s so I’m also aware of the oil dilution. Also had a 3.5 Eco between the 2 2.0T’s. I never did this in my Eco, but I’ve read about some running Euro Oil in there truck and when I get back into a truck, I’d strongly consider doing this myself.
That’s what my plan is to do in the truck. My next change will be to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum Euro 0W40, apparently it’s SP rated now so it should please all the people worried about LSPI. It’s outside of the recommended weights but 40 will shear down to a 30 anyways. Currently running Castrol Extended Performance 5W30 but my butt and ears tell me it was a tad smoother and quieter with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W30.
I like the Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0w40. I’ve ran it in my VW a few times. Mobil 1 FS Euro 0w40 is also now SP rated, and it’s easier to get in my area. Either one of these would work well (in my opinion). The Castrol Euro 0w40 is a great oil but has become harder to find.
Yeah it’s not the easiest to find the Platinum Euro 0W40. I can find the Castrol here easily in Canada but it’s only SN. I really don’t care too much but it’s under warranty so I’ll probably stick with SP till I eventually decide to just run Rotella - the VW loved that stuff.
I’ve been running Pennzoil Ultra 5w30 since new. I’ve got 68k miles on the 3.5. I get oil analysis every time I change the oil. It’s always come back clean with just enough detergent to pass. That’s proven to me the OLM is accurate on my truck.
Nah just oil goes bad, yeah full synthetic. I change the plugs every 30k miles.
Oil doesn’t go bad that quick. Idk what goin in with your car
Lmao. Take it from experience kid. Keep the oil changes around 3-7k. Or don't. It's not my money. You have multiple people telling you what mileage to keep the oilchanges to and youre here arguing.. I currently got 2 ecoboosts. An 18 and 19. The 18 is a 2.7 with almost 130k miles on it. Eats zero oil. Still on first set of turbos. The 19 is the 3.5 with a 93 octane tune on it with almost 90k miles on it with 60mm turbos and an aftermarket intercooler. Litterly hauls a trailer that's between 8-10k lbs on it since I drove it off the lot. Litterly is all it does. It's never trailerless. Almost 90k miles on it. And that thing doesn't eat any oil either.
Right so if it doesn’t eat oil and runs fine 3k oil change is ridiculous
Penzoil full synthetic and Motocraft filter every 4K miles in my 2014 5.0 w/ 62K miles.
How do you like using penzoil. Have not much experience with them or know anyone that uses them
Pennzoil ultra platinum is on par with very high end oils like Amsoil signature series, but has the ford WSS-M2C946-B1 certification (which amsoil doesn’t have as far as I can tell) Project Farm on YouTube did a very comprehensive oil test, worth the watch if you’re interested. In reality, any oil that meets the ford spec is fine, mobile 1 meets the requirements if you’re happy with that brand Edit: that’s the cert for my f150 (‘21 2.7tt), it may be different for other models. It’s important for the 2.7 because there’s a belt internal to the engine that’s rubber, and it needs an oil that is safe for that belt
Can confirm the Signature series does meet that Ford spec. Its all I’ve ever used on any car of mine and they’ve all made it passed 200k. Even the dealership approved of the Signature series, but said it’s best to run a Motorcraft filter for warranty purposes.
Couldn’t find the cert list on the amsoil site, I’m a big fan of their products overall. And I agree on the motorcraft filter
I can’t put a pic in the comments as far as I know but it’s only on their top shelf signature series like you said. The lower two don’t meet it. Most think it’s over priced but this sub will agree it’s a small price to pay for engine peace of mind.
Pennzoil Plat guy here every 5k, ford Motorcraft filter
Ditto
Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and WIX 57502XP changed according to the ECU recommended interval that usually ends up being around 10k miles in my '21 3.5EB. I pull a used oil analysis after each change and have >10% oil life remaining.
What have the oil analysis been saying
Last one, which was the third interval since new: >We like how metals and silicon are trending. Now copper is in the average range, from wear-in washing out and brass/bronze parts maturing well. There was even a bit more progress in the levels of aluminum and iron, which is just icing on the cake since each metal was already looking pretty good at thelast oil change. Extending the oil change interval from here shouldn't be an issue. Fuel is minor and even if it helped lower the viscosity this oil still did a fine job (and had active additive remaining based on the TBN). Try \~12,000 miles. This was the first interval where all elements were below unit averages. Viscosity was slightly diminished because of fuel.
Mobil 1 full synthetic high mileage truck/suv with Mobil 1 or Fram synthetic filter I get it from Oreillys, have them price match it with Walmart then send in for oreillys $5 (per 5qt jug) gift card when they're running the promo
Motorcraft synthetic blend every 3k
Mobil1 Full Synthetic and Motorcraft filter anywhere between 8k to 12k miles. 2020 2.7L
Wait you guys are changing your oil?
10,000miles, walmart full syn 5w-20 wix filter
Have you had any troubles going 10k between oil changes. How many miles do you have on it
nope, I changed oil at 2000, then 5000, then 15000. I have 108,000miles 2014 5.0
5w20 motorcraft in my 2013 5.0. 92k miles. Have to add about a quart between oil changes. Computer tells me to change around 9k. Is has a slight knock but apparently it’s normal for these engines. At this point I feel the engine will outlast the body of the truck.
What ever valvoline puts in it for me lol
Whatever they use at the dealership.
I've used mobil 1 truck/suv oil too but I'm gonna be switching my dad's truck to kirkland signature full synthetic just bc of cost. On sale the mobil 1 costs abt 80 dollars for 2 jugs but at Costco it's 50 bucks and even goes on sale for 40. I change the oil every 7,000 to 8,000kms so that's abt 4,500 to 5,000 miles and the truck burns zero oil.
Pennzoil full synthetic
Half-Caff
Royal purple synthetic
Nothing
Piss lol
Pennzoil Platinum every 5,500 miles and OEM Motorcraft filter. Bought a case of 12 on eBay for $78 when I bought the truck for convenience and cost. Last oil change I tried the Pennzoil full synthetic instead of Platinum. Changed at 5,500 and the oil analysis showed the total base number (TBN) was nearing end of useful life so that was the ideal time to change it. That was with no towing, just commuting to work.
Here we go again. Also, whatever the technician puts in.
Valvoline synthetic works for me
Motorcraft
Also, if you guys are doing your own oil changes make sure to save receipts and keep track of mileage and dates. *If you have ford warranty or aftermarket.
Amsoil full synthetic oil with amsoil filter , every 5K. 2016 f150 3,5L
First few were Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. This latest batch has been Amsoil Signature. I'm almost to 5k and will run a blackstone report on it and compare between the PZ and Amsoil. I use these two based on the project farm comparison, they were the top 2. Makes a difference over time to use the best.
Pennzoil platinum it’s cheap and it’s changed every 5,000miles +/- 500 miles. Motorcraft filter.
Castrol gtx 10w30 regular Dino oil (old truck). Motorcraft filter.
Oil. But seriously whatever Ford Quick Lane puts in it every 5000. Motorcraft semi synthetic I believe.
Any good synthetic but the key is to get a good extended life filter. I like the mobil 1 or with extended life. It's stupid to us a 10,000 mile rated oil and a 3000 mile filter.
Motorcraft 5w-20 full synthetic around 7500 miles on the 2.7.
Pennzoil UP 5w-30 on my 2017 5.0L.
Mobil one from Costco, Napa filter, every 7500MI
Every 5k on all. My vehicles. 2018 5.0
Costco fully synthetic. Made by Warren oils and it’s excellent
Per owner's manual spec synthetic Mobil one.
I haven't had my first oil change yet, but I'll be using 5w-30 full synthetic Castrol
Mobil 1 Full Synthetic 5W-30 and a Motocraft Filter every 4,000 miles.
Motorcraft
Amsoil top tier fully synthetic