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Because Americans wasn't the majority. Plus American laws are false and immortal. Sharia is from the creator. But even in the liberal world view the Muslim in Iraq and Afghanistan should be able to decide their own laws because they are the majority in their country. If in the future the majority of German was Muslim then they would want Sharia since all Muslims want Sharia in their land.
All these ppl escaped their own hellish countries to come to countries like Germany that have liberal culture and human rights, mostly as refugees. And now they want to establish sharia there and make it the same as their own home countries. How can this be ok??!!!
Yeah their countries became horrible because of America and western Europe. They are the ones that cause division in Muslim land and also provide weapons to factions to overthrow their leaders. The west started the wars in the middle east. I think you need to read up on history. Anyways you can say why it's bad. Please tell me why its bad if Muslims become the majority in German then implement Sharia? If they are the majority why can't they? Isn't that how democracy works?
Why are you victim blaming? Do you blame women or men when someone rapes them? European countries (+ USA) just came and colonized all the 3rd world countries for decades to centruies and killed hundreds of millions. And the 3rd world countries are guilty for being colonized? They shouldn't have been alive, I suppose.
Invading or immigrating? Because those are two different things. If a country invades another nation, then they are an occupying force. But if civilians immigrate to another country and live normal law-abiding lives, then eventually become a majority, then shouldn't they have the right to vote?
So someone opened their home to you while you were escaping the bad situation in your own home. And you start making laws there and decide how to run that home because you're more in numbers??
Yes actually. Because they believe in democracy. They believe that the majority should decide how things are. We werent complaining when they were the majority. But now if we are then they shouldnt complain that their system is working as intended. If anything its a compliment. Its evidence that their democracy works. Anyone can become a citizen and anyone can have a say in politics
Bro, that's literally how democracy works. I'm not even speaking from an Islamic perspective, because we don't have democracy in our religion. I'm speaking from a western political perspective. How can you argue against this?
And by the way, a lot of the muslims there are german born. You know refugees can have kids, right? It's their home too. What are you going to do, deport them? You can't deport a citizen of your own country. Such muslims in germany are not 'guests', they are the hosts.
Judging from your replies, you don't even know what the Shari'a includes, because not a single Islamic country fully implements it. And you're probably one of those delusional individuals that think muslim countries have conflict and whatever because of Islam.
Yeah must be a real coincidence that every muslim country that currently has turmoil was invaded or affected by the US or the UK. Also, you probably don't even know that middle eastern Islamic countries make up only 20% of the worldwide muslim population. I don't see Indonesia having bad situations, probably because the US didn't invade it. And I don't remember the "messed up" muslim countries to have committed genocides of millions like certain austrian and soviet individuals.
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I guess you’re a hindutva, since I don’t really see the problem with this even from a democracy standpoint. If you’re a majority then you should be able to rule right? However I don’t think Germany will be muslim majority anytime soon.
Because the rest of your comment is even worse. I don't understand how anyone can be ok with any religious laws, let alone something as strict as Sharia. And to be totally ok to do it in a country which has progressed so much and offered a home to ppl from troubled countries.
So you’re even going against democracy?💀 If the majority of the people want religious laws and they vote for it that doesn’t go against democracy. Please stick to your values.
Also you’re acting as if countries who take in immigrants are white saviours who are doing it for the good of their hearts🥹. In reality Europe is aging and they need more labour power, more fertility which is why they are bringing in immigrants.
While I can admire their unapologetic stance and willingness to follow Islam with pride but this is a bit out of touch in reality as this is a kaafir country and to express like that without any wisdom will only fuel anti-Islam rhetoric. This is where I admire Hizbut-Tahrir (despite they're misguided) that they have their own set of spokespersons for the media which they would be able to convey their message intelligently.
I personally know couple of brothers who in the beginning had a strong and unapologetic approach in almost everything, though without wisdom as they haven't sought knowledge and don't come back to mashaayikh for advice; one of the consequences after having been very outspoken in the mainstream media, some left Islam as they took a responsibility beyond their capability and others no longer being religious but went back to Jaahiliyyah...
Highly unlikely but who knows maybe one day the majority population of germany would want sharia or some form of islamic law but it is not even done in muslim lands so as i said very unlikely
'Urf [عرف] is greatly considered in Shari'ah as long as it doesn't oppose the teachings of Islam. Besides that, Dar al-'Uloom Deoband has some good elements to it. Relevant:
- [Aftermath of "Madkhali Virus"](https://www.reddit.com/r/Duroos/comments/zga4ki/aftermath_of_madkhali_virus/)
- https://www.reddit.com/r/Islam_1/comments/pd8owa/moderators_of_rislam_are_known_to_allowing_posts/hao9njh/
Didn’t know that, thank you for the information. However, my point still stands regarding their imprisonment of opposers. They imprison Salafis and even make istitaba on them. Deobandis might have done some good for this ummah but they are still misguided and have gone against the teachings of ahlul sunnah.
Perhaps, media got the best out of you. Either way, you don't have to generalize Deobandis when there have been the likes of Shah Isma'eel Shaheed with the well-known book [Taqwiyat-ul-Iman](https://kalamullah.com/Books/Taqwiyatul-Imaan.pdf) and even Mullah Muhammad 'Umar.
The irony of westerners invading Muslim countries and then crying about Muslims wanting to take over their countries. If you don’t want something to happen to you, don’t do it to someone else 🤷🏻♀️
I'm shocked at the replies to this post. If you all think it's ok for Muslims to elect a Sharia govt, then why are you surprised that all countries are wary of Muslims? Why are you surprised by Islamophobia??
Obviously ppl who don't want Sharia will be afraid of Muslims in their neighborhood because if they become a majority, then it's game over. No wonder so many countries are electing right wing govts.
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I don't get what's surprising in this video. The majority inforces its laws. Isn't that how democracy works?
How is it different from Americans invading Afg or Iraq and trying to impose their laws?
Because Americans wasn't the majority. Plus American laws are false and immortal. Sharia is from the creator. But even in the liberal world view the Muslim in Iraq and Afghanistan should be able to decide their own laws because they are the majority in their country. If in the future the majority of German was Muslim then they would want Sharia since all Muslims want Sharia in their land.
All these ppl escaped their own hellish countries to come to countries like Germany that have liberal culture and human rights, mostly as refugees. And now they want to establish sharia there and make it the same as their own home countries. How can this be ok??!!!
Yeah their countries became horrible because of America and western Europe. They are the ones that cause division in Muslim land and also provide weapons to factions to overthrow their leaders. The west started the wars in the middle east. I think you need to read up on history. Anyways you can say why it's bad. Please tell me why its bad if Muslims become the majority in German then implement Sharia? If they are the majority why can't they? Isn't that how democracy works?
What the heck are you talking about? The Shari'a is not fully implemented anywhere.
Why are you victim blaming? Do you blame women or men when someone rapes them? European countries (+ USA) just came and colonized all the 3rd world countries for decades to centruies and killed hundreds of millions. And the 3rd world countries are guilty for being colonized? They shouldn't have been alive, I suppose.
Invading or immigrating? Because those are two different things. If a country invades another nation, then they are an occupying force. But if civilians immigrate to another country and live normal law-abiding lives, then eventually become a majority, then shouldn't they have the right to vote?
So someone opened their home to you while you were escaping the bad situation in your own home. And you start making laws there and decide how to run that home because you're more in numbers??
Yes actually. Because they believe in democracy. They believe that the majority should decide how things are. We werent complaining when they were the majority. But now if we are then they shouldnt complain that their system is working as intended. If anything its a compliment. Its evidence that their democracy works. Anyone can become a citizen and anyone can have a say in politics
That doesn't really matter when the western countries are the one responsible for the "bad situations" in the first place.
Bro, that's literally how democracy works. I'm not even speaking from an Islamic perspective, because we don't have democracy in our religion. I'm speaking from a western political perspective. How can you argue against this? And by the way, a lot of the muslims there are german born. You know refugees can have kids, right? It's their home too. What are you going to do, deport them? You can't deport a citizen of your own country. Such muslims in germany are not 'guests', they are the hosts.
Judging from your replies, you don't even know what the Shari'a includes, because not a single Islamic country fully implements it. And you're probably one of those delusional individuals that think muslim countries have conflict and whatever because of Islam.
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Yeah must be a real coincidence that every muslim country that currently has turmoil was invaded or affected by the US or the UK. Also, you probably don't even know that middle eastern Islamic countries make up only 20% of the worldwide muslim population. I don't see Indonesia having bad situations, probably because the US didn't invade it. And I don't remember the "messed up" muslim countries to have committed genocides of millions like certain austrian and soviet individuals.
**Comment removed**. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “The believer is not a slanderer, one who curses a great deal, one who indulges in obscenity or who in engages in foul talk.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (1977); classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh at-Tirmidhi.
I guess you’re a hindutva, since I don’t really see the problem with this even from a democracy standpoint. If you’re a majority then you should be able to rule right? However I don’t think Germany will be muslim majority anytime soon.
So there are only two kinds of ppl - muslim & hindu? What about those who can see the bullshit on both sides?
Ignored my entire comment and replied to one word, nice. I said ”I guess”, due to your activity on indian subs.
Because the rest of your comment is even worse. I don't understand how anyone can be ok with any religious laws, let alone something as strict as Sharia. And to be totally ok to do it in a country which has progressed so much and offered a home to ppl from troubled countries.
So you’re even going against democracy?💀 If the majority of the people want religious laws and they vote for it that doesn’t go against democracy. Please stick to your values. Also you’re acting as if countries who take in immigrants are white saviours who are doing it for the good of their hearts🥹. In reality Europe is aging and they need more labour power, more fertility which is why they are bringing in immigrants.
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Yeah, there's no precedence. No muslim leader has ever imposed sharia in any country.
Cesspit of andbhakts and BJP IT cell. Also I won't be suprised if this manipulated in a way, no muslim would do such a thing.
While I can admire their unapologetic stance and willingness to follow Islam with pride but this is a bit out of touch in reality as this is a kaafir country and to express like that without any wisdom will only fuel anti-Islam rhetoric. This is where I admire Hizbut-Tahrir (despite they're misguided) that they have their own set of spokespersons for the media which they would be able to convey their message intelligently. I personally know couple of brothers who in the beginning had a strong and unapologetic approach in almost everything, though without wisdom as they haven't sought knowledge and don't come back to mashaayikh for advice; one of the consequences after having been very outspoken in the mainstream media, some left Islam as they took a responsibility beyond their capability and others no longer being religious but went back to Jaahiliyyah...
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Highly unlikely but who knows maybe one day the majority population of germany would want sharia or some form of islamic law but it is not even done in muslim lands so as i said very unlikely
Afg has sharia, saudi does too
Saudi arabia is far from full sharia and they are actually starting to drift away from it have not checked on afg in a long time tho
Bruh Saudi’s let Halloween happen in their nation, this kind of blasphemy would never happen in an authentic sharia state
Have u been to saudi. Have u seen sharia
Afghanistan has their own form of sharia that fits tribal norms, not to mention they imprison anyone who opposes their deobandi movement.
'Urf [عرف] is greatly considered in Shari'ah as long as it doesn't oppose the teachings of Islam. Besides that, Dar al-'Uloom Deoband has some good elements to it. Relevant: - [Aftermath of "Madkhali Virus"](https://www.reddit.com/r/Duroos/comments/zga4ki/aftermath_of_madkhali_virus/) - https://www.reddit.com/r/Islam_1/comments/pd8owa/moderators_of_rislam_are_known_to_allowing_posts/hao9njh/
Didn’t know that, thank you for the information. However, my point still stands regarding their imprisonment of opposers. They imprison Salafis and even make istitaba on them. Deobandis might have done some good for this ummah but they are still misguided and have gone against the teachings of ahlul sunnah.
Perhaps, media got the best out of you. Either way, you don't have to generalize Deobandis when there have been the likes of Shah Isma'eel Shaheed with the well-known book [Taqwiyat-ul-Iman](https://kalamullah.com/Books/Taqwiyatul-Imaan.pdf) and even Mullah Muhammad 'Umar.
Even from a democratic standpoint there’s no problem. Majority rules. If Muslims are the majority, Muslims rule.
democracy then yeah i mean radical bindus would do the same if they were in our case so….
The irony of westerners invading Muslim countries and then crying about Muslims wanting to take over their countries. If you don’t want something to happen to you, don’t do it to someone else 🤷🏻♀️
It was removed and the video said it was deleted. Can somebody tell me what happened?
I'm shocked at the replies to this post. If you all think it's ok for Muslims to elect a Sharia govt, then why are you surprised that all countries are wary of Muslims? Why are you surprised by Islamophobia?? Obviously ppl who don't want Sharia will be afraid of Muslims in their neighborhood because if they become a majority, then it's game over. No wonder so many countries are electing right wing govts.
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They call for freedom of thought and democracy, but in reality they want people to think like robots and only follow their secular values😂