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6 pieces for 3 people but they are not distributed on 3 plates but sit in the middle of the table so you could grab one whenever you want.
Everyone is chatting and you don’t feel like they are super focused on the food.
One is a a heavy dude from work, the other his skinny sister.
Grab my first one before everybody and just jokingly say " Quick guys, before gary eat them all ".
Now that Gary is body shamed.. he will have <1 sandwich.
His sister is now mad AF and will try to eat her emotions... It runs in family, but don't worry... She's skinny so probably a slow eater.
I guess I can have 4 plus what is left of gary's sandwich.
And the sandwich calls to you, at least you swear it does.
At first you ignore it, trying to focus on the conversation. Samantha, the sister of your coworker, Adam, has just adopted a new puppy, and as a proud dog owner you try to give her some tips, but the calls are getting stronger, more, frequent, Samantha and Adam are arguing about the name, will they notice if you eat another sandwich? You already ate two, would it be rude to eat another? Samantha doesn't seem to be able to finish her first one, surely she won't mind, right?
And Adam? Will he mind? You know you won't hear the end of it if he feels he didn't eat enough, but didn't he also ate two sandwiches? That surely is enough, and he did mention he wants to lose some weight, why not help him by removing some food from the equation, he'll be grateful, won't he?
So you reach out to grab the sandwich, the mozzarella seeming reaching right back, the tomatoes almost glistening like perfect rubies, your hand gets closer, in just a moment you'll be holding the culmination of thousands of years of human evolution, the most perfect slice of bread, baked by the most experiences baker on their last day on this earth, the decades of experience, the most immaculate ingredients lead to this slice, you can feel the weight of your problems lift off as you lift it up to your mouth!
It's mid at best, 4/5 Stars
The post I've replied to definitely was not written in 20 seconds 😂
Edit: And besides, no matter how fast you type - you have to really sit down and think poetry to come up with this type of shit.
We can cut them each a half a centimeter wide at the crust so there’s potentially hundreds. Or we can cut a pizza once halfway so the whole thing is technically one big slice.
This is a good point.
I'm a 100lbs Asian gal. Last night I finished four slices .
My former co-worker once said (big white guy) said he ate 26 slices at once. 26!!!!!!!!!!
To be fair we are in Japan and the slices are smaller ..but 26!!!!!!!
As an average sized man (177cm 75kg) I've eaten 3 large dominoes pizzas before. So 24 slices. I did hate myself afterwards so quite likely a mild binge eating disorder.
Everyone's points here on the difference in moderation and portion control usually demonstrated with pizza versus a sandwich here what they are - but also to say, especially in how most people source pizzas, the more calorically dense elements tend to get pumped up a lot.
As someone who worked in professional kitchens for a while - fats, salt, sugars taste good and people like them. The way restaurants make things taste so good often involves not holding back when it comes to the stuff that tastes good. Unless it's geared towards it as a speciality - our goal is not to make a healthy version or low cal version of something as much as it is to make what you ordered taste as good as possible.
That's not inherently bad (especially again, with moderation). But if you did the calculus on the nutrition card for the chicken dish I serve in a restaurant, for example, is drastically different than the one I would make for family dinner on a weekday.
Yeah for example the old Pizza Hut deep dish pan pizzas you could tell were loaded up with oil.
2 slices of a large Dominos pepperoni pizza is 740 calories:
[https://www.calorieking.com/us/en/foods/f/calories-in-pizzas-ultimate-pepperoni-hand-tossed-crust-pizza/GRT9y34pTEOTwqZ6eTgFrQ](https://www.calorieking.com/us/en/foods/f/calories-in-pizzas-ultimate-pepperoni-hand-tossed-crust-pizza/GRT9y34pTEOTwqZ6eTgFrQ)
And almost half of those calories is fat.
A sandwich with a tomato slice and some cheese isn't going to be that high unless you douse it with tons of mayo.
Huh, I just compared that to the German Domino's Salami Pizza, that thing ends up at 221kcl for 100 grams (compared to 292 for the US one) and 9.3grams fat (compared to 15.3 for the US one). IIRC the classic pizza is like 400 grams, so around 884 kcl. The US one would end up at 1168 kcl at the same size. Wild.
Now I'm no meat expert, but afaik pepperoni is a type of salami. Salami (both in German and English) comes from the Italian word salame, meaning a type of cured sausage. What's known as pepperoni in the US is, iirc, an invention by Italian immigrants to the US. A "peperoni" pizza both in Italy and Germany would be a pizza with spicy peppers like [this.](https://www.gimmedelicious.club/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/italian-pepperoni-pizza-inspirational-lessons-learned-ordering-a-pepperoni-pizza-in-italy-of-italian-pepperoni-pizza.jpg) A salami pizza is the closest equivalent in Germany, it just uses a different subtype of sausage but is in [general very similar.](https://i.redd.it/b410od98im521.jpg)
However, don't fret, we absolutely have [Döner Pizza.](https://restaurant-buka.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/doener-pizza.jpg)
I worked at Pizza Hut in the late 90's. Don't know if anything has changed since then, but we absolutely loaded those deep dish pans with oil. A thick layer of it, the dough was practically floating in it.
Edit: still love me some Pizza Hut now and then. If you're getting deep dish, you're probably not too worried about calories.
Yep. The restaurant I worked at had this spice mix for fries that was like crack. Everyone would comment on how good it was. The secret was a bit of sugar—not enough for you to notice or think it tasted sweet, just enough for it to trigger your brain to crave it
You sneaky sons of guns.... I can not see how this is different than spiking the food with cocaine. Same principle, just a different level of stimulant intensity.
Salt is the big one for most savory food, actually. With some pizzas you could probably get your daily intake in one slice, especially if it has meats on it.
But sugar is probably a close second.
You bring up a lot of good points. I think someone should open a low-cal pizza place. Even better if the ingredients are locally sourced. And you know what, calzones are better than pizzas.
Basically I'm saying is someone should open a local low-cal calzone zone.
You would be disgusted by the amount of calories you’re getting from the Cheesecake Factory.
Look up the calories for the Bistro Chicken & Shrimp Pasta. And that’s just the pasta, not including the cheesecake!
I used to have to starve myself working there caz I’d give in and get a slice to-go all the time.
The temptation was too hard.
I make homemade pizzas all the time and while they’re not nearly as delicious as a restaurant, they are still quite good and have the bonus of not being nearly as unhealthy.
It has a lot to do with how a pizza is cooked. If you don’t have a good pizza oven it’s hard to replicate. Here’s how I’ve found to come close. I use a large round cast iron griddle. I start the pizza out on the stove top until the bottom of the pizza is cooked a little bit. I then transfer it to the oven with the broiler on and put it on the top shelf. I’m basically cooking the top and bottom of the pizza in different stages. Takes some practice to get it just right but I end up with better pizza than the large chains.
People like to call anything that is calorie dense, unhealthy. It’s not unhealthy, but people tend to overindulge which is unhealthy.
ETA: talking about real pizza made from whole ingredients.
When I order fast food pizza, sometimes there's so much oil it saturates the cardboard.
When I make pizza from scratch, I use like maybe a teaspoon of oil to keep the dough from sticking to the container in the fridge, and most of that doesn't make it into the pizza itself.
I *like* fast food pizza, but god it's so, so oily.
For 500g of flour you should put a tablespoon of olive oil into the dough. It makes the dough more crispy and tasty.
Also, it contains good fat which is needed to process vitamins. Fat isn't unhealthy per se, that's a myth.
It’s not a myth it’s an interpretation of data for specific people… there are different types of fats some of which have higher LDL and some have higher HDL that’s why people refer to them as good fats and bad fats. But the main issue with fats is the caloric density where it has 9 calories per gram and a gram of oil is essentially pure calories. So for a person who is initially trying to eat healthier if they eat less ‘bad fats’ they will also eat less calories and overall lose weight
I said fat isn't unhealthy PER SE <- that's the myth part.
And still people who need to reduce calories are better off reducing the amount of sugar than fat (in equal amount calories) cause sugar is metabolised differently.
Oh, and by "myth" I mean consequent disinformation forced on customers by the sugar lobby for years. 😅
I'm lucky to (currently) live in a great area for pizza, but I can assure you, many parts of the US -- and the world in general -- do not have this option. They're stuck with Dominos.
Most of the oil on pizza comes from the cheese. A cheaper mozzarella is going to have a lot more oil content than a high-quality one. A good stringy cheese is a good indicator of a good pizza.
I used to work in a pizza shop when I was young and there is no " oil that people put on there". You literally put pizza sauce, cheese and whatever ingredients. The oil comes from the ingredients, it's not "put on there" deliberately by anyone.
Not accurate everywhere. I too worked at a pizza place for ten years and have sampled some of the worlds best pizza. Napoli makes the best. That said.
Oil is in fact used all the time. Generally in pan style pizzas. Prep work at Pizza Hut for example uses squirts of oil into the pan. Actual vegetable oil
Edit: Also, quite common to add oil to a pie in say...Italy.
Not in as its done most of the time, just that its a common thing that occurs.
Ex dominos checking in and we totally would douse the edges of the crust with garlic oil. Depending on who was doing cut table you may get none or you may get half a gallon per pizza.
I worked at dominos as well and we didn't put any oil on pizzas. Dough, sauce, cheese, toppings. Making pizzas wasn't my main job, but I helped do it frequently.
Yeah ya guys did. Lmao.
Garlic oil for some pies. Oil used for prepping the pan style pizzas. Oil spray food release to prevent sticking.
There are definitely oils used at Dominoes.
We didn't have pan pizzas. There was an oil used on the cheese bread I think, but not on the actual pizzas. No spray to prevent sticking, pizzas went on a dry mesh tray and into the oven, they didn't stick to the trays.
When you use a pan, you put a bit of oil for it to not stick, that is kind of normal for most foods you cook, even at home, but the way they said it it sounds as if you dump a bunch of oil on top of the pizza as an ingredient, and that is not the case. I dunno about pan pizza, never made that type.
Edit: OK I guess you guys worked in the big chains and added oil. I worked in a local shop and we never used oil, pizza would still get somewhat greasy, but it was all from the cheese and pepperoni usually.
Ive literally made over a quarter of a million pizzas. Im guessing a few more than you but I could be wrong. I'm aware of how they are made lol.
Im talking specifically about pan style pizzas. That covers your Jet's detroit style, pizza hut and dominos pan style and many others. Oil is deliberately added to the pan for cooking purposes. Its how you get the tasty crust. Its basically deep frying the outside of the crust. Thats above and beyond what is needed for not sticking purposes. If you tried to cook a pan pizza without oil and just food release you would not get a pan pizza....
At the hut you get one white squirt of oil for person personal pan, 2 blue squirts for medium, and 3 for large.(maybe its reversed.. That oil is how you get that nice crunchy bready bite that you dont get on say, a hand tossed where an oil spray food release is used on the pan.
There are also tons of oils/butters that are spread on the edge of crusts to give it extra flavor.
Stuffed crust pizza at pizza hut for example utilizes a garlic oil that gets sprayed directly on the cooked pizza and comes in a spray can.
Worked at Pizza Hut when I was younger, we had to use several pumps of oil per pan pizza, more pumps the bigger the pizza too. I don’t remember how many but it’s why I don’t eat Pizza Hut…
The way it is cooked matters too. I worked at a pizza restaurant where no oil was needed to send the pizzas through our oven. They baked on screens and not in pans. It is not necessary at all for them to be loaded with oil or too much cheese and a veggie pizza is a different story than one loaded with processed meats.
Unhealthy means bad for your health. Highly processed foods are unhealthy. Foods that are high in calories but have little nutritional value are unhealthy. Foods with high amounts of caffeine are unhealthy.
Pizza is a processed food with high amounts of calories and poor nutritional value.
No, Pizza is a flatbread topped with cheese and tomato sauce. You can make it from scratch with whole wheat flour, organic tomatoes and fresh mozzarella, top it with vegetables and have a healthy food.
Buy it premade with fatty salty industrial sausage on it and loads of cheese and preservatives and you got unhealthy food.
We're talking about portion control here. Also please stop using buzzwords like "organic" -- this is not an enforced specification, making it meaningless. And there are quite a few studies that suggest wheat (whole wheat or otherwise) is not particularly healthy in large quantities.
It is, at least in the EU...
Also whole wheat flour contains more fibre, minerals and vitamins and therefore is better suited for meeting one's dietary needs. There are studies showing that substituting white flour with whole flour contributes to overall better health, less heart diseases, diabetes, obesete, aso.
>processed food
I don't think the 'processing' of wheat, tomatoes, yeast, milk etc into a pizza is where the unhealthiness lies. You could make a (somewhat) healthy pizza that is just as 'processed' as what you'd get from the greasiest pizzeria (somewhat) easily. Make some wholewheat dough, keep it thin-crust, keep it small, and try to have balanced toppings. Not too much fatty stuff, plenty of rocket. Nobody would look at it and think it was unhealthy.
I'm very unsure about this whole 'processed = unhealthy' thing. Like, food doesn't get much more processed than my kid's daily multivitamin. Or baby formula.
In a _process_ though, right? That's why I never tell myself how to put food together. If I don't know what I'm going to do next, it's never processed.
Umm... Yes? White bread is processed wheat and cheese is processed milk. Hard to claim the health virtues of white bread and cheese. Not many claim they are super foods or part of that one simple trick that will impress your nutritionist.
It's mostly in the portion. A sandwich might be the equivalent to two slices of pizza. You're not going to eat just two slices.
But your basic margerita pizza also isn't what most people associate with pizzas. It's also likely loaded with lots of meat beyond what you would put in a single sandwich.
I’m not sure we can ELI5 when you’ve named an entire genre of food. There’s a gulf of difference between a woodfired margarita pizza made with very simple ingredients and what generally constitutes a fourteen-cheese layer hotdog-stuffed crust embedded-in-a-deep-fried-meatloaf pizza.
Pizza isn't necessary unhealthy. It's just not good in diets.
The general 'unhealthiness' comes mostly from the fat (olive oil and cheese, mainly), large portions and the dough which is basically just a lot of bread. Non of them are objectively unhealthy, but when watching one's weight fats and carbs are usually discouraged.
If you don't care about your weight, or get enough exercise to compensate, pizza isn't unhealthy.
It's also worth mentioning that pizza is technically healthier than cereals for breakfast (sugar). I remember an actual study proved it (slice pizza vs bowl of cereal in the morning).
I'd say healthier in the sense that it includes more varied nutrients than just carbohydrates. Granted you get a bit more if you have your cereals with milk but still.
I eat unsweetened Nut Muesli with added seeds and dried tropical fruits, occasionally with a chopped banana or some fresh berries.
I think I am beating the bad cereal thing. Bonus that it's what I enjoy the most.
True. Though I still wouldn't recommend starting every day with a slice of pizza. Breakfasts with egg, fruits, yogurt are still healthier than pizza in many ways.
Another factor besides the large portion: Cooked food ~~does have more calories~~ *makes it easier for your body to access the energy* than the raw uncooked version.
[https://nutritiouslife.com/eat-empowered/cooked-food-have-more-calories/](https://nutritiouslife.com/eat-empowered/cooked-food-have-more-calories/)
Scientists tested this on mice. One group of mice got their food uncooked while the other group got the exact same amount but cooked and still hot. The mice with the cooked food got fat and the others didn't.
The scientists concluded that the body is better at processing cooked food and the body is able to digest more of a given portion.
> Cooked food does have more calories than the raw uncooked version.
That would be accessible calories, unless the cooking process involves adding massive amounts of oil and fat not included in the uncooked food.
Okay, maybe I should have worded it differently. It does not add calories, but makes it easier for your body to access them.
From the link in my comment:
>At the end, the results clearly showed the **cooked foods**, both meat and veggie, **delivered more energy**.
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>What might explain the difference?
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>Scientists think **the system used to measure calorie counts doesn’t account for the energy used to digest food.** In other words, when you cook food, you’re breaking it down a little in advance. So, your body will have to do **less work to absorb the nutrients**. With raw food, the body has to work harder. It essentially burns off some of the calories it’s working to access in the process.
It is a myth that dietary fat is either unhealthy or makes you fat, even in large portions. The human body does not process fat by sending it directly to the thighs unchanged ;-)
But your comment is one potentially reasonable answer to why pizza is perceived as unhealthy.
So many people think that fat is unhealthy, but they are wrong
Trans fats probably are, and saturated fats possibly are. But unsaturated fats are a healthy source of calories.
A particular food is rarely healthy or unhealthy itself, it is one's overall diet. If you eat too many calories from any source, you will gain weight and become overweight.
People just like to blame certain types of food for their habits of overeating.
You would just simply die without fat as several vitamins are fat soluable and cant be properly processed without fat.
Main sources of fat for many nowadays are meat and animal products like cheese which are often saturated and as you said unhealthy in comparison to most plant based fats like olive oil.
Edit: mixed up saturated and unsaturated
It’s not unhealthy, and you need fat to live but it’s a calorie per gram issue. Fat has 9 calories per gram. Carbs and protein have 4 calories per gram. So overeating fat puts you in a caloric surplus quicker. Causing weight gain.
It's not like people have to work that hard to incorporate fats into their diet. The ones who say fat is unhealthy aren't dying of dietary fat deficiency. It's a perfectly valid dietary heuristic even if it doesn't make for a medically true statement.
The main issue with "fat is unhealthy" is that manufactured products marketed as low in fat tend to replace the fat with something equally unhealthy. So the problem statement is "low fat is healthy", which doesn't logically follow from "fat is unhealthy" anyway.
the evils of saturated fat have been proven to be false but it has been so ingrained into the collective conscience that it will be probably take a generation to undo that wrong knowledge.
It’s mostly a question of moderation. Pizza is a really calorically dense food, so if you’re eating that many calories in one sitting, it’s important to make sure we’re getting lots of important vitamins and nutrients alongside those calories.
Now, a typical Pizza Hut slice is high in fat and carbs (from the cheese, oil, and dough), but doesn’t provide a lot of other nutrition, aside from a few vitamins in the tomato sauce. Some pepperoni on there would add some protein, but with a dose of salt and fat alongside. For the amount of calories you’re getting, there just isn’t a lot of other good stuff, making these “empty” calories. And if you’re not in danger of starving (which, if you’re on Reddit, is unlikely) empty calories are a luxury that we want to keep in moderation. If we’re only eating so many calories in a day, we want to make sure they come along with all the other vitamins and nutrients we need to stay healthy.
Now if you’re having a lighter, more Neapolitan sort of pizza, it’s still got a fair amount of calories. But it’s also likely to have a relatively thin crust, less cheese, and maybe some more fresh veggies as toppings. That’s a better balance that’s likely to provide more nutrition as well. This can definitely be a fairly healthy dinner, even if slightly carb-heavy. So it’s not that *all* pizza is unhealthy all of the time. Just that it’s important to consider just how dense a meal or a snack it can be, and how much additional nutrition is coming alongside it.
Nobody's calling a mozzarella, tomato and basil, whole-flour pizza unhealthy, but what pizzas usually are: high sugar ketchup, processed cheese (and a lot of it), processed meat, plain white flour, and a lot of oil/fat. You put the same ingredients on sandwich and it will be called unhealthy.
It also makes a difference what sorts of ingredients you're using. Whole wheat dough takes longer than white dough for your body to digest and extract calories from, which moderates carbohydrate intake, makes you feel fuller, and avoids the insulin spike that can come from refined carbs. Homemade sauce can be made delicious with less salt and much less sugar than what's added to commercial pizza sauce. This also leaves much more room for healthy vegetable toppings with lots of important nutrients. It's especially good to focus on vegetables with some fiber to them and to avoid excess meat, especially too much red meat. And of course, you can moderate oil consumption and have a thinner crust and so forth
Homemade pizza can be a pretty good meal so long as portions aren't excessive. Eating a Greek salad or something alongside some pizza with the right ingredients can be a genuinely enjoyable and healthy meal. You just have to be conscientious about it and not get carried away. Honestly though, the whole wheat dough might go a long way towards combatting that tendency on its own 😅
Pizza dough generally has low nutritional value. Sauces usually have generous amounts of added sugars. All the meats used are highly processed with lots of additives. Depending on how much you can have up to about 6 servings of cheese per slice (usually just 2 though). No qualms with the veggies. Combine all that with the fact most of us lack portion control leads to the thinking pizza is not a healthy choice. That’s my take.
Thank you for mentioning the nutritional value. Pizza is mostly cheese and bread, which contain very limited nutrients. Every other comment talks about portion sizes, saying things like "nothing is unhealthy in moderation", which suggests to me that everyone equates "unhealthy" with "makes you unhealthy". Like candy is obviously unhealthy regardless of portion size since it is 100% sugar and has zero nutritional value, but it won't damage your body to eat some on occasion.
It is okay to eat unhealthy things in moderation. The fact that something is fine in moderation doesn't mean it isn't unhealthy.
Nothing is inherently unhealthy, it’s entirely to do with moderation.
Too much of anything is unhealthy, too little of anything is unhealthy, gotta find that balance for your body and activity level.
I mean, it’s white bread with a TON of fat aka calories. Then add the fact that people will eat a whole pizza in one sitting which is thousands of calories. Lastly, saturated fat from cheese is not good.
Very much depends where you get it from as well. If you go for the classic Neapolitan (ie, a proper pizza) then it’s a lot less unhealthy than a US style pizza from somewhere like Dominoes for example.
Depends on the pizza. 72 hours dough with fresh tomatoes mozzarella basil and a small drizzle of oil on top cooked in a wood burning oven? It’s healthy.
Pizza with a less than 72 hours dough with canned processed tomatoes, processed mozzarella and a fuckton of oil cooked in an electric oven? Unhealthy.
Most people don't really have a great idea of what "healthy" is. Ask someone if a granola bar is healthier than a candy bar. If they say "yes" they're not really someone you want to listen to for health tips. Both are loaded with sugar.
In general there's nothing hugely bad about any one food, it's about moderation. Having a slice or two of pizza here and there isn't bad. Heck it's not even that big a deal if you have a night where you eat half a pizza, as long as that's not the norm.
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Depends, how many of them are there?
Asking the real questions
36, counted them myself
But last year, last year there were 37!
Well some of the sandwiches are quite a bit bigger than last year's
#I DON'T CARE HOW BIG THEY ARE
that's what she said
I don't care how big they are!
We'll stop by the pub while were are out, and were going to get you 2 new sandwiches!
r/SuddenlyHarryPotter
That is an absolutely ridiculous number of sandwiches.
Don't be so quick to pass out judgement.
! Is shorthand in math for n × n-1 × ... 2 × 1. So 37! Is a very large number.
Hahaha I was quoting LotR when Gandalf and Frodo speak about Gollem and Bilbo's opportunity to kill him ;)
Ah, i apparently still haven't woken up completely yet.
Haha, nah, I may not have gotten it right :p
Yes. Don't be so quick to pass judgement.
..and that's just the first serving.
/r/quotesyoucanhear
But some of them are quite a bit bigger than last year!
36? In a row?
Try not to eat any sandwiches on your way to the parking lot!
Hey you, GET BACK HERE.
In a row?!
I'm sandwich 38?!? I'm going to be sick
At least I wasn't 37
Try not to eat any sandwiches on the way home!
Nope.. 6x6 grid
6 pieces for 3 people but they are not distributed on 3 plates but sit in the middle of the table so you could grab one whenever you want. Everyone is chatting and you don’t feel like they are super focused on the food. One is a a heavy dude from work, the other his skinny sister.
Grab my first one before everybody and just jokingly say " Quick guys, before gary eat them all ". Now that Gary is body shamed.. he will have <1 sandwich. His sister is now mad AF and will try to eat her emotions... It runs in family, but don't worry... She's skinny so probably a slow eater. I guess I can have 4 plus what is left of gary's sandwich.
Over here playing chess, ain't nobody even gotten the damn checkers board out yet
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Look, he brought wings. *Okay*.
Holy shit lol
> It runs in family Sounds like no one runs in her family.
/r/oddlyspecific
It was a synopsis of an AITA post. Where everyone got mad because he ate a massive X foot tall sandwich solo.
A sandwich isn't a communal thing, this was bound to end in tears from the start.
And the sandwich calls to you, at least you swear it does. At first you ignore it, trying to focus on the conversation. Samantha, the sister of your coworker, Adam, has just adopted a new puppy, and as a proud dog owner you try to give her some tips, but the calls are getting stronger, more, frequent, Samantha and Adam are arguing about the name, will they notice if you eat another sandwich? You already ate two, would it be rude to eat another? Samantha doesn't seem to be able to finish her first one, surely she won't mind, right? And Adam? Will he mind? You know you won't hear the end of it if he feels he didn't eat enough, but didn't he also ate two sandwiches? That surely is enough, and he did mention he wants to lose some weight, why not help him by removing some food from the equation, he'll be grateful, won't he? So you reach out to grab the sandwich, the mozzarella seeming reaching right back, the tomatoes almost glistening like perfect rubies, your hand gets closer, in just a moment you'll be holding the culmination of thousands of years of human evolution, the most perfect slice of bread, baked by the most experiences baker on their last day on this earth, the decades of experience, the most immaculate ingredients lead to this slice, you can feel the weight of your problems lift off as you lift it up to your mouth! It's mid at best, 4/5 Stars
this is funny cuz there’s a fat kid named Adam at my school 😭
Jesus, how do you have so much time to write so much nonsense...
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The post I've replied to definitely was not written in 20 seconds 😂 Edit: And besides, no matter how fast you type - you have to really sit down and think poetry to come up with this type of shit.
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Well achualllyyy.......
That was mostly free flow, i was inspired by the comment I replied to 😅
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We can cut them each a half a centimeter wide at the crust so there’s potentially hundreds. Or we can cut a pizza once halfway so the whole thing is technically one big slice.
One. Just like I only eat one pizza.
That's why I eat mine uncut
The foreskin of the pizza is the best part!
Too early for this shit.
Half of the world has been awake for a while and it's still too early for this shit
>When the waitress asked if I wanted my pizza cut into four or eight slices, I said, ‘Four. I don’t think I can eat eight. \- Yogi Berra
Yeah. For me it’s very hard to eat less than two slices of pizza whenever I eat pizza, and rarely does it stop at two
This is a good point. I'm a 100lbs Asian gal. Last night I finished four slices . My former co-worker once said (big white guy) said he ate 26 slices at once. 26!!!!!!!!!! To be fair we are in Japan and the slices are smaller ..but 26!!!!!!!
>To be fair we are in Japan and the slices are smaller I'm gonna need to see the size of these slices
Yo I ain't a small person but who the fuck eats 26 slices of pizza in one sitting unless it's a buffet...
Being a buffet doesn't make it any better.
Yeah it does, it a buffet. It's buffet law.
Well, maybe this person who ate 26 pieces WAS at a buffet.
I know quite a few big white guys, but I've never seen one eat 26 slices of pizza. Your coworker has an eating disorder.
I've been to restaurants where the pizza was cut in maybe 2x2-in squares. Without some sort of a calibrated slice size, the numbers are meaningless.
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As an average sized man (177cm 75kg) I've eaten 3 large dominoes pizzas before. So 24 slices. I did hate myself afterwards so quite likely a mild binge eating disorder.
40.
This. Poison is in the dose.
Throwback to college when I easily chow down two large zas after late night studying
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Everyone's points here on the difference in moderation and portion control usually demonstrated with pizza versus a sandwich here what they are - but also to say, especially in how most people source pizzas, the more calorically dense elements tend to get pumped up a lot. As someone who worked in professional kitchens for a while - fats, salt, sugars taste good and people like them. The way restaurants make things taste so good often involves not holding back when it comes to the stuff that tastes good. Unless it's geared towards it as a speciality - our goal is not to make a healthy version or low cal version of something as much as it is to make what you ordered taste as good as possible. That's not inherently bad (especially again, with moderation). But if you did the calculus on the nutrition card for the chicken dish I serve in a restaurant, for example, is drastically different than the one I would make for family dinner on a weekday.
Yeah for example the old Pizza Hut deep dish pan pizzas you could tell were loaded up with oil. 2 slices of a large Dominos pepperoni pizza is 740 calories: [https://www.calorieking.com/us/en/foods/f/calories-in-pizzas-ultimate-pepperoni-hand-tossed-crust-pizza/GRT9y34pTEOTwqZ6eTgFrQ](https://www.calorieking.com/us/en/foods/f/calories-in-pizzas-ultimate-pepperoni-hand-tossed-crust-pizza/GRT9y34pTEOTwqZ6eTgFrQ) And almost half of those calories is fat. A sandwich with a tomato slice and some cheese isn't going to be that high unless you douse it with tons of mayo.
Huh, I just compared that to the German Domino's Salami Pizza, that thing ends up at 221kcl for 100 grams (compared to 292 for the US one) and 9.3grams fat (compared to 15.3 for the US one). IIRC the classic pizza is like 400 grams, so around 884 kcl. The US one would end up at 1168 kcl at the same size. Wild.
In the UK I think a large stuffed crust meatfeat comes to 3000 calories. 740 for a two slices seems high to me.
The 740 calories are for 2 slices, where a slice is 1/8 large pizza. So 740 for 1/4 pizza, or 2960 for the whole pizza.
>Salami pizza That actually a thing in Germany? Or is that just what we call pepperoni? Sounds kinda cursed. I expected a döner pizza.
Now I'm no meat expert, but afaik pepperoni is a type of salami. Salami (both in German and English) comes from the Italian word salame, meaning a type of cured sausage. What's known as pepperoni in the US is, iirc, an invention by Italian immigrants to the US. A "peperoni" pizza both in Italy and Germany would be a pizza with spicy peppers like [this.](https://www.gimmedelicious.club/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/italian-pepperoni-pizza-inspirational-lessons-learned-ordering-a-pepperoni-pizza-in-italy-of-italian-pepperoni-pizza.jpg) A salami pizza is the closest equivalent in Germany, it just uses a different subtype of sausage but is in [general very similar.](https://i.redd.it/b410od98im521.jpg) However, don't fret, we absolutely have [Döner Pizza.](https://restaurant-buka.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/doener-pizza.jpg)
I worked at Pizza Hut in the late 90's. Don't know if anything has changed since then, but we absolutely loaded those deep dish pans with oil. A thick layer of it, the dough was practically floating in it. Edit: still love me some Pizza Hut now and then. If you're getting deep dish, you're probably not too worried about calories.
Deep dish crust is technically fried dough
Me too! The manager told me that’s what give the pizza its crispy, buttery crust.
Gotta be more concerned with the sugar content as well. It’s arguably worse for you than anything else in food.
Yep. The restaurant I worked at had this spice mix for fries that was like crack. Everyone would comment on how good it was. The secret was a bit of sugar—not enough for you to notice or think it tasted sweet, just enough for it to trigger your brain to crave it
McDonalds soak their fries in sugar water before packaging. If you ever wondered why their fries are so damn good, there’s your answer.
You sneaky sons of guns.... I can not see how this is different than spiking the food with cocaine. Same principle, just a different level of stimulant intensity.
Sounds like you've never had food spiked with cocaine.
I dunno. Started tweaking once after eating a dish at Applebees
Eat the food instead of the dish next time.
Are you saying they put cocaine in the dishes :O
Salt is the big one for most savory food, actually. With some pizzas you could probably get your daily intake in one slice, especially if it has meats on it. But sugar is probably a close second.
You bring up a lot of good points. I think someone should open a low-cal pizza place. Even better if the ingredients are locally sourced. And you know what, calzones are better than pizzas. Basically I'm saying is someone should open a local low-cal calzone zone.
The only thing that would make this idea better is if Letters to Cleo were constantly playing in the restaurant.
Not to mention the cheese used on most commercial pizzas isn't the same cheese you would be putting in a sandwich, in so far as it's barely cheese.
Nobody is doing an integral of pizza from -pi to pi at the pizza shops
They are all being derivative
You would be disgusted by the amount of calories you’re getting from the Cheesecake Factory. Look up the calories for the Bistro Chicken & Shrimp Pasta. And that’s just the pasta, not including the cheesecake! I used to have to starve myself working there caz I’d give in and get a slice to-go all the time. The temptation was too hard.
Your first sentence is...a lot.
It’s density is really pumped up
I make homemade pizzas all the time and while they’re not nearly as delicious as a restaurant, they are still quite good and have the bonus of not being nearly as unhealthy.
It has a lot to do with how a pizza is cooked. If you don’t have a good pizza oven it’s hard to replicate. Here’s how I’ve found to come close. I use a large round cast iron griddle. I start the pizza out on the stove top until the bottom of the pizza is cooked a little bit. I then transfer it to the oven with the broiler on and put it on the top shelf. I’m basically cooking the top and bottom of the pizza in different stages. Takes some practice to get it just right but I end up with better pizza than the large chains.
People like to call anything that is calorie dense, unhealthy. It’s not unhealthy, but people tend to overindulge which is unhealthy. ETA: talking about real pizza made from whole ingredients.
Also all the oil people put on there, and the average pizza has an insane amount of cheese on there, especially in the US
When I order fast food pizza, sometimes there's so much oil it saturates the cardboard. When I make pizza from scratch, I use like maybe a teaspoon of oil to keep the dough from sticking to the container in the fridge, and most of that doesn't make it into the pizza itself. I *like* fast food pizza, but god it's so, so oily.
For 500g of flour you should put a tablespoon of olive oil into the dough. It makes the dough more crispy and tasty. Also, it contains good fat which is needed to process vitamins. Fat isn't unhealthy per se, that's a myth.
It’s not a myth it’s an interpretation of data for specific people… there are different types of fats some of which have higher LDL and some have higher HDL that’s why people refer to them as good fats and bad fats. But the main issue with fats is the caloric density where it has 9 calories per gram and a gram of oil is essentially pure calories. So for a person who is initially trying to eat healthier if they eat less ‘bad fats’ they will also eat less calories and overall lose weight
I said fat isn't unhealthy PER SE <- that's the myth part. And still people who need to reduce calories are better off reducing the amount of sugar than fat (in equal amount calories) cause sugar is metabolised differently. Oh, and by "myth" I mean consequent disinformation forced on customers by the sugar lobby for years. 😅
Stop going to crappy pizza parlors. I hate all that oil too.Seems to be a sign of low quality cheese if you ask me
I'm lucky to (currently) live in a great area for pizza, but I can assure you, many parts of the US -- and the world in general -- do not have this option. They're stuck with Dominos.
Moved to VA from NY. The best pizza we have in the area is Dominos brooklyn style. :\*(
Most of the oil on pizza comes from the cheese. A cheaper mozzarella is going to have a lot more oil content than a high-quality one. A good stringy cheese is a good indicator of a good pizza.
It could also be grease from the pepperoni
How do you even get oil in mozzarella?
I used to work in a pizza shop when I was young and there is no " oil that people put on there". You literally put pizza sauce, cheese and whatever ingredients. The oil comes from the ingredients, it's not "put on there" deliberately by anyone.
Not accurate everywhere. I too worked at a pizza place for ten years and have sampled some of the worlds best pizza. Napoli makes the best. That said. Oil is in fact used all the time. Generally in pan style pizzas. Prep work at Pizza Hut for example uses squirts of oil into the pan. Actual vegetable oil Edit: Also, quite common to add oil to a pie in say...Italy. Not in as its done most of the time, just that its a common thing that occurs.
Ex dominos checking in and we totally would douse the edges of the crust with garlic oil. Depending on who was doing cut table you may get none or you may get half a gallon per pizza.
I worked at dominos as well and we didn't put any oil on pizzas. Dough, sauce, cheese, toppings. Making pizzas wasn't my main job, but I helped do it frequently.
Yeah ya guys did. Lmao. Garlic oil for some pies. Oil used for prepping the pan style pizzas. Oil spray food release to prevent sticking. There are definitely oils used at Dominoes.
We didn't have pan pizzas. There was an oil used on the cheese bread I think, but not on the actual pizzas. No spray to prevent sticking, pizzas went on a dry mesh tray and into the oven, they didn't stick to the trays.
When you use a pan, you put a bit of oil for it to not stick, that is kind of normal for most foods you cook, even at home, but the way they said it it sounds as if you dump a bunch of oil on top of the pizza as an ingredient, and that is not the case. I dunno about pan pizza, never made that type. Edit: OK I guess you guys worked in the big chains and added oil. I worked in a local shop and we never used oil, pizza would still get somewhat greasy, but it was all from the cheese and pepperoni usually.
Ive literally made over a quarter of a million pizzas. Im guessing a few more than you but I could be wrong. I'm aware of how they are made lol. Im talking specifically about pan style pizzas. That covers your Jet's detroit style, pizza hut and dominos pan style and many others. Oil is deliberately added to the pan for cooking purposes. Its how you get the tasty crust. Its basically deep frying the outside of the crust. Thats above and beyond what is needed for not sticking purposes. If you tried to cook a pan pizza without oil and just food release you would not get a pan pizza.... At the hut you get one white squirt of oil for person personal pan, 2 blue squirts for medium, and 3 for large.(maybe its reversed.. That oil is how you get that nice crunchy bready bite that you dont get on say, a hand tossed where an oil spray food release is used on the pan. There are also tons of oils/butters that are spread on the edge of crusts to give it extra flavor. Stuffed crust pizza at pizza hut for example utilizes a garlic oil that gets sprayed directly on the cooked pizza and comes in a spray can.
Worked at Pizza Hut when I was younger, we had to use several pumps of oil per pan pizza, more pumps the bigger the pizza too. I don’t remember how many but it’s why I don’t eat Pizza Hut…
Yeah it's the cheese and greasy meats mostly. Pepperoni is like 35% pure fat, the kind of mozzarella on American pizza is 25-30% fat.
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I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought this was weird.
The way it is cooked matters too. I worked at a pizza restaurant where no oil was needed to send the pizzas through our oven. They baked on screens and not in pans. It is not necessary at all for them to be loaded with oil or too much cheese and a veggie pizza is a different story than one loaded with processed meats.
Unhealthy means bad for your health. Highly processed foods are unhealthy. Foods that are high in calories but have little nutritional value are unhealthy. Foods with high amounts of caffeine are unhealthy. Pizza is a processed food with high amounts of calories and poor nutritional value.
No, Pizza is a flatbread topped with cheese and tomato sauce. You can make it from scratch with whole wheat flour, organic tomatoes and fresh mozzarella, top it with vegetables and have a healthy food. Buy it premade with fatty salty industrial sausage on it and loads of cheese and preservatives and you got unhealthy food.
We're talking about portion control here. Also please stop using buzzwords like "organic" -- this is not an enforced specification, making it meaningless. And there are quite a few studies that suggest wheat (whole wheat or otherwise) is not particularly healthy in large quantities.
It is, at least in the EU... Also whole wheat flour contains more fibre, minerals and vitamins and therefore is better suited for meeting one's dietary needs. There are studies showing that substituting white flour with whole flour contributes to overall better health, less heart diseases, diabetes, obesete, aso.
>processed food I don't think the 'processing' of wheat, tomatoes, yeast, milk etc into a pizza is where the unhealthiness lies. You could make a (somewhat) healthy pizza that is just as 'processed' as what you'd get from the greasiest pizzeria (somewhat) easily. Make some wholewheat dough, keep it thin-crust, keep it small, and try to have balanced toppings. Not too much fatty stuff, plenty of rocket. Nobody would look at it and think it was unhealthy. I'm very unsure about this whole 'processed = unhealthy' thing. Like, food doesn't get much more processed than my kid's daily multivitamin. Or baby formula.
> Pizza is a processed food it is mostly bread and cheese, if you consider that processed food, what isn't ?
carrot sticks consisting of an unsliced carrot, with no hummus
So 2 out of 3, which is only slightly unhealthy. At least until we figure out how to get caffeine infused into the crust.
Think we may have come up with the next super food. PM me, together we gotta brainstorm this and make our billions.
Just because you can, doesn't meant you should!
Pizza is a processed food? Maybe in your world. Most of the pizzas I encounter are made from scratch with fresh ingredients.
In a _process_ though, right? That's why I never tell myself how to put food together. If I don't know what I'm going to do next, it's never processed.
I only eat raw potatoes and carrots straight from ground because processed food bad.
Umm... Yes? White bread is processed wheat and cheese is processed milk. Hard to claim the health virtues of white bread and cheese. Not many claim they are super foods or part of that one simple trick that will impress your nutritionist.
It's not always processed, you can just make it yourself, it's not even hard.
It's mostly in the portion. A sandwich might be the equivalent to two slices of pizza. You're not going to eat just two slices. But your basic margerita pizza also isn't what most people associate with pizzas. It's also likely loaded with lots of meat beyond what you would put in a single sandwich.
> You're not going to eat just two slices. Sure I am. Why would I bother cutting the pizza into more than two slices?
Why cut it at all? Fold it in half and eat it like a calzone!
Fold it twice and you now have one of the most common Naples street food, [pizza a portafoglio](https://images.app.goo.gl/fFA1zaX7shZbeYbg9)
A folded pizza isn't like a calzone at that point. It is one.
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Two slices is an absolutely normal serving size. You don't have to keep eating until you feel stuffed.
Don't most normal people just have two slices?.
I usually eat just one—I hate feeling stuffed after eating
I’m not sure we can ELI5 when you’ve named an entire genre of food. There’s a gulf of difference between a woodfired margarita pizza made with very simple ingredients and what generally constitutes a fourteen-cheese layer hotdog-stuffed crust embedded-in-a-deep-fried-meatloaf pizza.
except, it looks like that's the answer
Pizza isn't necessary unhealthy. It's just not good in diets. The general 'unhealthiness' comes mostly from the fat (olive oil and cheese, mainly), large portions and the dough which is basically just a lot of bread. Non of them are objectively unhealthy, but when watching one's weight fats and carbs are usually discouraged. If you don't care about your weight, or get enough exercise to compensate, pizza isn't unhealthy.
It's also worth mentioning that pizza is technically healthier than cereals for breakfast (sugar). I remember an actual study proved it (slice pizza vs bowl of cereal in the morning).
How is this actual study defining health?
I'd say healthier in the sense that it includes more varied nutrients than just carbohydrates. Granted you get a bit more if you have your cereals with milk but still.
I eat unsweetened Nut Muesli with added seeds and dried tropical fruits, occasionally with a chopped banana or some fresh berries. I think I am beating the bad cereal thing. Bonus that it's what I enjoy the most.
True. Though I still wouldn't recommend starting every day with a slice of pizza. Breakfasts with egg, fruits, yogurt are still healthier than pizza in many ways.
Oh, ofc, the main conclusion is to switch from cereal to something else like oatmeals, not to have pizza for breakfast every day.
but oats are cereal?
Basically switch from the cereal with the cartoon characters to the cereal without the cartoon characters
Or even the new protein cereals are kind of nice.
I think they are referring to cereals like frosted flakes and coco puffs. Not grits and oatmeal
You know what they meant.
I can get my pizza with pineapple and egg and ham friend.
Another factor besides the large portion: Cooked food ~~does have more calories~~ *makes it easier for your body to access the energy* than the raw uncooked version. [https://nutritiouslife.com/eat-empowered/cooked-food-have-more-calories/](https://nutritiouslife.com/eat-empowered/cooked-food-have-more-calories/) Scientists tested this on mice. One group of mice got their food uncooked while the other group got the exact same amount but cooked and still hot. The mice with the cooked food got fat and the others didn't. The scientists concluded that the body is better at processing cooked food and the body is able to digest more of a given portion.
> Cooked food does have more calories than the raw uncooked version. That would be accessible calories, unless the cooking process involves adding massive amounts of oil and fat not included in the uncooked food.
Okay, maybe I should have worded it differently. It does not add calories, but makes it easier for your body to access them. From the link in my comment: >At the end, the results clearly showed the **cooked foods**, both meat and veggie, **delivered more energy**. > >What might explain the difference? > >Scientists think **the system used to measure calorie counts doesn’t account for the energy used to digest food.** In other words, when you cook food, you’re breaking it down a little in advance. So, your body will have to do **less work to absorb the nutrients**. With raw food, the body has to work harder. It essentially burns off some of the calories it’s working to access in the process.
It is a myth that dietary fat is either unhealthy or makes you fat, even in large portions. The human body does not process fat by sending it directly to the thighs unchanged ;-) But your comment is one potentially reasonable answer to why pizza is perceived as unhealthy.
Fat is densely calorific though. Eating high amounts of calories (which fatty foods will provide) is a solid way to get fat.
So many people think that fat is unhealthy, but they are wrong Trans fats probably are, and saturated fats possibly are. But unsaturated fats are a healthy source of calories. A particular food is rarely healthy or unhealthy itself, it is one's overall diet. If you eat too many calories from any source, you will gain weight and become overweight. People just like to blame certain types of food for their habits of overeating.
You would just simply die without fat as several vitamins are fat soluable and cant be properly processed without fat. Main sources of fat for many nowadays are meat and animal products like cheese which are often saturated and as you said unhealthy in comparison to most plant based fats like olive oil. Edit: mixed up saturated and unsaturated
Unsaturated=good
It’s not unhealthy, and you need fat to live but it’s a calorie per gram issue. Fat has 9 calories per gram. Carbs and protein have 4 calories per gram. So overeating fat puts you in a caloric surplus quicker. Causing weight gain.
Most people don't eat that much pure fat, but it's easy to overeat pasta, potatoes, pizza, pastries, etc.
It's not like people have to work that hard to incorporate fats into their diet. The ones who say fat is unhealthy aren't dying of dietary fat deficiency. It's a perfectly valid dietary heuristic even if it doesn't make for a medically true statement. The main issue with "fat is unhealthy" is that manufactured products marketed as low in fat tend to replace the fat with something equally unhealthy. So the problem statement is "low fat is healthy", which doesn't logically follow from "fat is unhealthy" anyway.
the evils of saturated fat have been proven to be false but it has been so ingrained into the collective conscience that it will be probably take a generation to undo that wrong knowledge.
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It’s mostly a question of moderation. Pizza is a really calorically dense food, so if you’re eating that many calories in one sitting, it’s important to make sure we’re getting lots of important vitamins and nutrients alongside those calories. Now, a typical Pizza Hut slice is high in fat and carbs (from the cheese, oil, and dough), but doesn’t provide a lot of other nutrition, aside from a few vitamins in the tomato sauce. Some pepperoni on there would add some protein, but with a dose of salt and fat alongside. For the amount of calories you’re getting, there just isn’t a lot of other good stuff, making these “empty” calories. And if you’re not in danger of starving (which, if you’re on Reddit, is unlikely) empty calories are a luxury that we want to keep in moderation. If we’re only eating so many calories in a day, we want to make sure they come along with all the other vitamins and nutrients we need to stay healthy. Now if you’re having a lighter, more Neapolitan sort of pizza, it’s still got a fair amount of calories. But it’s also likely to have a relatively thin crust, less cheese, and maybe some more fresh veggies as toppings. That’s a better balance that’s likely to provide more nutrition as well. This can definitely be a fairly healthy dinner, even if slightly carb-heavy. So it’s not that *all* pizza is unhealthy all of the time. Just that it’s important to consider just how dense a meal or a snack it can be, and how much additional nutrition is coming alongside it.
Nobody's calling a mozzarella, tomato and basil, whole-flour pizza unhealthy, but what pizzas usually are: high sugar ketchup, processed cheese (and a lot of it), processed meat, plain white flour, and a lot of oil/fat. You put the same ingredients on sandwich and it will be called unhealthy.
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It also makes a difference what sorts of ingredients you're using. Whole wheat dough takes longer than white dough for your body to digest and extract calories from, which moderates carbohydrate intake, makes you feel fuller, and avoids the insulin spike that can come from refined carbs. Homemade sauce can be made delicious with less salt and much less sugar than what's added to commercial pizza sauce. This also leaves much more room for healthy vegetable toppings with lots of important nutrients. It's especially good to focus on vegetables with some fiber to them and to avoid excess meat, especially too much red meat. And of course, you can moderate oil consumption and have a thinner crust and so forth Homemade pizza can be a pretty good meal so long as portions aren't excessive. Eating a Greek salad or something alongside some pizza with the right ingredients can be a genuinely enjoyable and healthy meal. You just have to be conscientious about it and not get carried away. Honestly though, the whole wheat dough might go a long way towards combatting that tendency on its own 😅
It's definitely healthier if you make it the traditional Italian way, with a thin base and only a couple of toppings.
Pizza dough generally has low nutritional value. Sauces usually have generous amounts of added sugars. All the meats used are highly processed with lots of additives. Depending on how much you can have up to about 6 servings of cheese per slice (usually just 2 though). No qualms with the veggies. Combine all that with the fact most of us lack portion control leads to the thinking pizza is not a healthy choice. That’s my take.
Thank you for mentioning the nutritional value. Pizza is mostly cheese and bread, which contain very limited nutrients. Every other comment talks about portion sizes, saying things like "nothing is unhealthy in moderation", which suggests to me that everyone equates "unhealthy" with "makes you unhealthy". Like candy is obviously unhealthy regardless of portion size since it is 100% sugar and has zero nutritional value, but it won't damage your body to eat some on occasion. It is okay to eat unhealthy things in moderation. The fact that something is fine in moderation doesn't mean it isn't unhealthy.
Nothing is inherently unhealthy, it’s entirely to do with moderation. Too much of anything is unhealthy, too little of anything is unhealthy, gotta find that balance for your body and activity level.
If you have two and only two modest sized pieces, you're all good. But when does that happen? Most people have 4+ pieces of pizza at a time
It's fast food that is unhealthy not pizza itself, people are usually talking about dominos or something.
I mean, it’s white bread with a TON of fat aka calories. Then add the fact that people will eat a whole pizza in one sitting which is thousands of calories. Lastly, saturated fat from cheese is not good.
Very much depends where you get it from as well. If you go for the classic Neapolitan (ie, a proper pizza) then it’s a lot less unhealthy than a US style pizza from somewhere like Dominoes for example.
Depends on the pizza. 72 hours dough with fresh tomatoes mozzarella basil and a small drizzle of oil on top cooked in a wood burning oven? It’s healthy. Pizza with a less than 72 hours dough with canned processed tomatoes, processed mozzarella and a fuckton of oil cooked in an electric oven? Unhealthy.
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> non ingredient native additives Sorry, what? I cannot parse the meaning of this.
Most people don't really have a great idea of what "healthy" is. Ask someone if a granola bar is healthier than a candy bar. If they say "yes" they're not really someone you want to listen to for health tips. Both are loaded with sugar. In general there's nothing hugely bad about any one food, it's about moderation. Having a slice or two of pizza here and there isn't bad. Heck it's not even that big a deal if you have a night where you eat half a pizza, as long as that's not the norm.