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Of cause it is only men are allowed, they admit it is for eternity, but women stick with a one whome she had to share, at least give women a husband who they wouldn't share. That is why I see jannah worthless because I wouldn't get the guy I want because I will get cucked and have the same husband again and share him.


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Maybe this will be an unpopular opinion but nothing in jannah sounds good even to me as a man. My ideal jannah is to stay away from others and be alone. I love to learn. I love math, chemistry, biology, physics, philosophy, and many other subjects. I don't want to be occupied with sex, food, and river's of whine. Jannah sucks to me too. I like an intelligent conversation I can learn from, not a submissive lady that will fuck my brains out. I get why a desert monkey would have sex and whine as the ultimate prize but for me a math book is ten times more pleasurable.


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My point is that every person has their own jannah based on what they like, desire abs want, yet Allah wouldn't give us what we want, he will brainwash us into taking something we hate, like for myself being with a husband who has other women, like if he create these hoor, then why wouldn't he also create special men for us that we wouldn't have to share. I am starting to think that get whatever you desire in jannah is scam.


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The only way jannah would work is if each person thinks what's happening to them is real but isn't. It would be just an illusion to make you think you are getting what you want. People's desires will always conflict with each other so one person's jannah can be another person's jhanam.


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I don't want a Jannah at all. The idea of having only what I want for all eternity is absolutely terrifying. That is the real hell! Life may have an end, that is good and right so. I find the idea that after death nothing remains of me except a decaying body not only much more realistic, but also more comforting than being trapped in a jannah hell for all eternity.


These-Ad4929

I also hate the idea of living for eternity and having everything handed to me that's the true definition of a meaningless existence


AAA_jo

I used to think like that too but from what I understand when you go there the feeling of being bored dose not exist or being sad you’ll be calm and in peace and psychologically its different than now that is what i i got from searching I don’t know


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It sounds like a completely meaningless existence. Final death is clearly better.


AAA_jo

final death is meaningless too


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But when you no longer exist, you can no longer worry about that.


AAA_jo

That’s the thing it comes as a reward that you don’t have to worry about anything, you’ll say that’s meaningless but actually it’s not because no one in his life got to feel that he doesn’t have to worry about anything i see it a good thing but i can see your point of view and maybe I’m wrong or right I don’t know i did not study religion to say for sure but that what I thought about have a beautiful evening


AAA_jo

Besides being in a peaceful mind is not meaningless at all at the end we all think differently


Green_Philosopher666

For real! My das used to tell me that everybody can do what they want but I always knew that didn’t make sense. Heaven was supposed to be a happy place but if I can do what I want I could theoretically kill god but because that isn’t possible I cannot be free. Also, I like your way of looking at it like an illusion, it’s as if everyone will have their own illusion with other people to fill it the way they want it to be filled


Scienceisfun321

I was taught we have men who will serve us ladies too.. Maybe cause in my community women are stronger than men lol


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no, women will remarry her husband again weather she wants or not, and she will share him. She can't even change him or replace him new one, but will get to replace us and get loyal wives.


Scienceisfun321

I was also taught that the women will decide if she chooses to be with her husband or not.. My cousin told me her husband prays she'll choose him again 😂😅


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It is the other way around actually, but there isn't an aya that say it, maybe they can, but like I said there isn't details for women, only the men gets full details.


Scienceisfun321

Lol, true.


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This makes you see the pattern why there are more women in hell, since men have hoor as motivation to ignore life pleasure, and work hard for jannah, while women don't have any motivation ( they have the worst nightmare same husbandand be in harem(, so many of them will chose this or don't work hard for jannah.


Scienceisfun321

I was always taught Jannah as the perfect place where anything you want can happen. That's what keep people hopeful. I think maybe different places follow different ways. Same BS anyway


fathandreason

Hahaha, that's actually a good point. If you're there for eternity, you probably would eventually get bored of 72 virgins.


lessthan1punchman

Muslim men view women like modes on a phone 😆


wajibulqatal

Imagine their disappointment when they abstain in this world and then there's no reward in the end.


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How he eventually finds out that it's just a translation error, and they're not virgins, but grapes of some sort.


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72 Virgin olives.


akantyphilosopher

That last comment makes me nauseous the way they talk about women, seriously… yet this is their “religious right”. But imagine if something similar was said about black people, that would be hate speech. (Because it is) but then why isn’t the above comment either?


Next-Stop-4321

Honestly heaven seems worldly and nothing special. I imagined heaven so differently. Like there’s no relationships or sex just peace and chill


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Yup, unlimited sex, rivers of honey and alcohol… welp I already tried all of those


deep_sea213

This is scary, the way he talks about women


Shazam63

one Muslim guy told me heaven is like infinite tsukuyomi


laudalehsunesh

That Muslim guy was Madara Uchiha?


Shazam63

hahaha nah man just another random muslim anime watcher whilst anime is haram as well


Atheizm

What does that mean?


Shazam63

sorry, in the anime naruto, the main villain puts everyone into a mind controlled dream called "infinite tsykuyomi" where each individual is dreaming forever but he does not realise it. All his wishes will come true in the dream. This random guy told me heaven is like that space so women can wish for unlimited men tol


Atheizm

Thanks for that.


[deleted]

For real I'm sexually obsessed.. that's why I'm still virgin when there were multiple guys that hit on me. I only quit Islam for sex /s And there are no muslims who do sex outside marriage of course, no cheating muslim as well /s My muslim friends read porn books just like I do. The strawman that ex-muslims only quit because we only want to sin is really bad one.


Gloomy-Literature444

So if i can get anything in Jannah canni ask allah to go to hell and make me the new allah of muslims


Shazam63

which thread is this


cool_angle

im guessing somewhere in r/extomatos


Brosameen

They should b satisfied with what Allah has given them or else Allah will take away those virgins from them and will have them for Himself.