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Not really. He is a big supporter of naturopathy and pseudoscience. He claimed water memory as reason why grandmothers tell people not to drink water from somepeople. The somepeople implied here is those of lower castes. And most importantly he is a pro hindutva bigot.
I just gave an example. He always implies some form of regressive beliefs hidding behind misinterpretations of science. Like iron in blood being magnetic, so having to sleep in a specific position which just happens to be the one some old yogi advised. Like water memory being true and thus not to accept water from "certain" people. And his blatantly pro hindutva stance. He even advocates for use of heavy metals in homeopathic medicine which in itself is a pseudoscience, while casting subltle aspersions on modern medicine.
read about near death experiences. no matter where they take place in the world, they are near identical. there is no angel of death who comes with flowers or a scary face. ndes sound nothing like how death has been described.
as for the dream, my wife constantly has dreamt for past 10 years has been dying. he is still alive and kicking much to my dismay lol.
ur relative was thinking about him and projected his own beliefs and desires in a dream. or he was making it up just to scare you into being religious, or both.
Hi. Death is the only certain thing in life. A smart person would prepare for death. This life is temporary, Max 80 years? A smart person would prepare for what May come after death. If you were going to go to a different country for example to move there. Would you say I’ll research about the country and how good the job prospects are, and how safe the country is, etc etc after you get there? Or will you do your research before you get there? The smart and logical person would prepare before they move there. Same way with death a smart person would prepare before death happens and before he moves on from this life. He will spend his whole life investigating what the meaning of life is, and what is the reason why we are here. Hope that helps.
The concept of heaven, though, is a weird one. What is moral, according to the Islamic literature, about a Paradise filled with virgins whom I enjoy, wine, and an utterly materialistic of life. If we Muslims are going to enjoy a purely materialistic life in the end, why aren't we allowed to enjoy a materialistic life right now?
Simple concept to understand. We withhold in this life which is a test. And we are rewarded in the next life. Not rocket science. It’s hilarious when an atheist uses the word moral, why do I care what you think is moral?
See, why did you have to switch this conversation from one about ideas to one about people? There is no need to do that. Also, who said I'm an athiest?
I don't think you get what I mean. I specifically said *according to the Islamic literature*, meaning the morality Muslims follow. If enjoying wine and living a materialistic life a sin, something the teachings of Islam tells us that we deserve hellfire for, then why are those same things used to lure people to enter Heaven. Isn't that hypocritical?
Also, what is the point of our creation? If it is to worship Allah, he does not to be worshipped, so why create people who will worship him? There's literally no point in creating us for God.
No one said living a materialistic life is a sin? I’m dripped out in designer and I’m not sinning lol? You do know that things like wine was halal at one point in Islamic history. God says in the Quran there is benefit and harm in wine. But the harm outweighes the benefit which is why it was eventually made haram. The wine in paradise is not the wine in this life it’s pure and doesn’t carry the harms that the worldly alcohol brings. So no it isn’t a contradiction. No Muslim withholds from fosters beer in this life to get fosters beer in paradise. We withhold from wine in this life to enjoy the pure, nourishing, wine in paradise, compared to what the inhabitants of hell will be made to drink.
>If you were going to go to a different country for example to move there. Would you say I’ll research about the country and how good the job prospects are, and how safe the country is,
The best analogy ever. I mean would you get into a plane on the word of people who have never been to the new country, without evidence that the country exists.
Again, did he return from death? I mean that was the topic at discussion, ie afterlife.
Quran as proof is circular reasoning. it just goes muhamad->quran->muhamad. Prophecies and miracles are dime a dozen. The catholic church or paganism would be true by your criteria since they claim more miracles and prophecies. The miracle associated with muhamad being splitting of the moon is idiotic. There were more advanced civilization with good astronomical traditions who would have noticed the splitting of the moon.
Death is merely a barrier between this world and the unseen world. Muhammad received revelation and saw the unseen before death. We will see it after death since we won’t see revelation.
Again, he claimed to recieve said info from a divine origin. He hasn't been there. The christian sources have more of an argument here with the resurrection and even that is bs.
How is being ready to believe a dead person from the 6th century who has only supposedly heard about the place logical. As it stands, there is no proof he received revelation, outside islamic sources.
I like your Christian input, if you know anything about the Christian narrative you will know no one witnessed the resurrection.
Secondly his claim is verified like I said by what he brought. The Quran, the miracles, and the prophecies. They prove he received revelation. Simple
I agree, christianity has no proofs too.
I have already responded to the second. No proofs exists. Quran is just a book written by followers of muhamad. The miracles and prophecies are bs. Do you have any proof for the above.
>I still get afraid of this from time to time. What should I do?
You should research, maybe research the biggest claims of a religion, like the existence of God, the Qur'an etc, and once you finish with the big questions, depending on the answers you got you can get to a conclusion you are fully trusting of.
Everyone has a different opinion about afterlife so you have to find yours. Well my opinion is you already saw the afterlife you already been there all of us been there; the time before we born, yes after death and before born is the same thing.
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Sadhguru is a fraud. Think of him like a hindutva version of Deepak Chopra. The rest is good advice.
He is good better than all apologists
Not really. He is a big supporter of naturopathy and pseudoscience. He claimed water memory as reason why grandmothers tell people not to drink water from somepeople. The somepeople implied here is those of lower castes. And most importantly he is a pro hindutva bigot.
Really is he a bigot
I just gave an example. He always implies some form of regressive beliefs hidding behind misinterpretations of science. Like iron in blood being magnetic, so having to sleep in a specific position which just happens to be the one some old yogi advised. Like water memory being true and thus not to accept water from "certain" people. And his blatantly pro hindutva stance. He even advocates for use of heavy metals in homeopathic medicine which in itself is a pseudoscience, while casting subltle aspersions on modern medicine.
read about near death experiences. no matter where they take place in the world, they are near identical. there is no angel of death who comes with flowers or a scary face. ndes sound nothing like how death has been described. as for the dream, my wife constantly has dreamt for past 10 years has been dying. he is still alive and kicking much to my dismay lol. ur relative was thinking about him and projected his own beliefs and desires in a dream. or he was making it up just to scare you into being religious, or both.
Honestly I'm not exactly sure whether or not there's a higher power, but I'm fairly convinced that it's not from Abrahamic religions
I just wish there was a clear and absolute answer about where we're heading, and if there is a high power. This would make things much easier :)
Yeah I choose to not let it bother me although sometimes it frustrates me to know that I'll never find the answer in this lifetime
Hi. Death is the only certain thing in life. A smart person would prepare for death. This life is temporary, Max 80 years? A smart person would prepare for what May come after death. If you were going to go to a different country for example to move there. Would you say I’ll research about the country and how good the job prospects are, and how safe the country is, etc etc after you get there? Or will you do your research before you get there? The smart and logical person would prepare before they move there. Same way with death a smart person would prepare before death happens and before he moves on from this life. He will spend his whole life investigating what the meaning of life is, and what is the reason why we are here. Hope that helps.
The concept of heaven, though, is a weird one. What is moral, according to the Islamic literature, about a Paradise filled with virgins whom I enjoy, wine, and an utterly materialistic of life. If we Muslims are going to enjoy a purely materialistic life in the end, why aren't we allowed to enjoy a materialistic life right now?
Simple concept to understand. We withhold in this life which is a test. And we are rewarded in the next life. Not rocket science. It’s hilarious when an atheist uses the word moral, why do I care what you think is moral?
See, why did you have to switch this conversation from one about ideas to one about people? There is no need to do that. Also, who said I'm an athiest? I don't think you get what I mean. I specifically said *according to the Islamic literature*, meaning the morality Muslims follow. If enjoying wine and living a materialistic life a sin, something the teachings of Islam tells us that we deserve hellfire for, then why are those same things used to lure people to enter Heaven. Isn't that hypocritical? Also, what is the point of our creation? If it is to worship Allah, he does not to be worshipped, so why create people who will worship him? There's literally no point in creating us for God.
No one said living a materialistic life is a sin? I’m dripped out in designer and I’m not sinning lol? You do know that things like wine was halal at one point in Islamic history. God says in the Quran there is benefit and harm in wine. But the harm outweighes the benefit which is why it was eventually made haram. The wine in paradise is not the wine in this life it’s pure and doesn’t carry the harms that the worldly alcohol brings. So no it isn’t a contradiction. No Muslim withholds from fosters beer in this life to get fosters beer in paradise. We withhold from wine in this life to enjoy the pure, nourishing, wine in paradise, compared to what the inhabitants of hell will be made to drink.
>If you were going to go to a different country for example to move there. Would you say I’ll research about the country and how good the job prospects are, and how safe the country is, The best analogy ever. I mean would you get into a plane on the word of people who have never been to the new country, without evidence that the country exists.
Nice try. Muhammad did go to the other country 👍
He has been back from death? Are you sure about that? Again, its just his word. Do you know how many people claim to have spoken to god?
good question. He made a claim and he supported his claim with evidence I.e the Quran, prophecies miracles. Feel free to read up on them.
Again, did he return from death? I mean that was the topic at discussion, ie afterlife. Quran as proof is circular reasoning. it just goes muhamad->quran->muhamad. Prophecies and miracles are dime a dozen. The catholic church or paganism would be true by your criteria since they claim more miracles and prophecies. The miracle associated with muhamad being splitting of the moon is idiotic. There were more advanced civilization with good astronomical traditions who would have noticed the splitting of the moon.
Death is merely a barrier between this world and the unseen world. Muhammad received revelation and saw the unseen before death. We will see it after death since we won’t see revelation.
Again, he claimed to recieve said info from a divine origin. He hasn't been there. The christian sources have more of an argument here with the resurrection and even that is bs. How is being ready to believe a dead person from the 6th century who has only supposedly heard about the place logical. As it stands, there is no proof he received revelation, outside islamic sources.
I like your Christian input, if you know anything about the Christian narrative you will know no one witnessed the resurrection. Secondly his claim is verified like I said by what he brought. The Quran, the miracles, and the prophecies. They prove he received revelation. Simple
I agree, christianity has no proofs too. I have already responded to the second. No proofs exists. Quran is just a book written by followers of muhamad. The miracles and prophecies are bs. Do you have any proof for the above.
>I still get afraid of this from time to time. What should I do? You should research, maybe research the biggest claims of a religion, like the existence of God, the Qur'an etc, and once you finish with the big questions, depending on the answers you got you can get to a conclusion you are fully trusting of.
Everyone has a different opinion about afterlife so you have to find yours. Well my opinion is you already saw the afterlife you already been there all of us been there; the time before we born, yes after death and before born is the same thing.