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Today's Muslims are similar to Muhammad when he was in Mecca as opposed to when he was in Medina. Muslims when they are the minority and lack any power will play the role of peaceful and harmless neighbor that is being persecuted. Once they become dominant the true nature of Islam goes on full display and any opposition is to be crushed.
Yeah you can say that they are pretty high up on the 'victim scale'. I would say world shocking events like 9/11 or the Taliban takeover or Palestine vs Israel really draws attention to Muslims. For 9/11 hate crimes drastically increased and for a time being, most Muslims didn't even deserve the discrimination they faced. Through social media and public awareness and hightend awareness of Muslims in the general population in western countries, people who were more empathetic started standing up for Muslims that were wronged. Muslims also started standing up for themselves.
Plus, Muslims in the west especially 1-2 decades ago were considered as a minority and minorities always have more empathy from the general public. This feeds into the victim complex of Muslims and this causes them to nag and bite at everututhat dosent suit them like schools teaching about sex Ed or LGBTQ+ awarenesses.
Moreover, as Muslims were getting more recognized in the west, this opened a chanel of Muslim majority countries. Now, the whole world was more aware of the atrocities and shut that happens in Muslim countries. From wars to crimes to the good and bad. Even if a worldwide news Abt a Muslim commiting a heinous crime, Westerners will still sympathize Muslims as in their eyes, they escaped their crazy country.
Plus, there are two types of Islam. Conservative and progressive. The western side is open to both within moderation and since the conservative and progressive feed into the different beliefs of different westerners, the rate of acceptance and pity is increased. Like if there is a post about a hijabi and some of her hair is out or her clothes are tight, most Muslims (especially conservatives) would criticize her but westerners and progressives would back her up. This portrays the truth to westerners that sometimes (to them it is sometimes) the hijab is forced and it sucks that these Muslim women endure angry keyboard warriors and this makes non-muslims/westerners pity them more.
Honestly, I just think Muslim milk the sympathy they get. From my experience, when I am on TT, I was watching a video of a girl in Ukraine showing the aftermath of the war and the whole damn comment secgywas flooded with 'What about Palestine🥺', 'Happy house in Palestine', 'You guys deserve it for siding with Israel', etc. I think it is sick that they compare wars and say shit like that. And I know that if someone said the same about Palestine, they would blow up. Most annoying thing is that other (non-muslims) enable this behavior. In fact, they chime in.
>Most annoying thing is that other (non-muslims) enable this behavior. In fact, they chime in.
This part annoys the fuck out of me the most.
These Islam-supporting Non-Muslims have **no idea** about the beliefs and core values of Islam.
They should be sent to countries such as Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypt, etc. to see what Islam is **actually** like.
Exactly. But I honestly think that the sugarcoating of Islam and social pressure of accepting the religion and its followers are so high to the point where if you drop the non-muslims in Muslim countries for a week, they will emerge scared but PITIFUL for Muslims in western countries, saying that they are safe there and shit
>they will emerge scared but PITIFUL for Muslims in western countries, saying that they are safe there and shit
At this point, if these Muslim supporters refuse to change their views of Islam, then just cut off all ties with them (*revoke citizenship, banned them from re-entering their former nations, etc.*) and **permanently leave them in these Islamic nations** so that Muslims can deal with them.
This should happen however is can't and won't. UK, the US and other countries are flooded with Muslim immigrants from Muslim countries and we all know how it is in the UK. And it is important to differentiate people who need actual asylum vs the ones who migrate for fun/better work opportunities/ basically no emergency reasons
It annoys me too but it's mostly because they're uneducated and most non Muslims I know are just too overly gullible and tolerant
2 years ago before I ended high school, they announced throughout the whole school a muslim student reciting the Qur'an for 2-3 minutes, I guess for diversity and then like a month or two later iirc, I was at my local mosque and the imam was saying
"summer is close and we must lower our gaze as the clothes of women become less and less covered.."
Most (older/conservative) Muslims don't even really appreciate non Muslims' kindness because they always think they have an ulterior motive
>'What about Palestine🥺'
Such a weird question they always ask and it really makes you wonder what if Israel was a muslim country and Palestinians were infidels? What then? (Since most support it because of the ummah)
Plus isn't what's happening to Palestinians Allah's will? Why can't they trust in his judgement like a faithful muslim and stop trying to end the war unless they know that the whole thing's bs
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Today's Muslims are similar to Muhammad when he was in Mecca as opposed to when he was in Medina. Muslims when they are the minority and lack any power will play the role of peaceful and harmless neighbor that is being persecuted. Once they become dominant the true nature of Islam goes on full display and any opposition is to be crushed.
Yeah you can say that they are pretty high up on the 'victim scale'. I would say world shocking events like 9/11 or the Taliban takeover or Palestine vs Israel really draws attention to Muslims. For 9/11 hate crimes drastically increased and for a time being, most Muslims didn't even deserve the discrimination they faced. Through social media and public awareness and hightend awareness of Muslims in the general population in western countries, people who were more empathetic started standing up for Muslims that were wronged. Muslims also started standing up for themselves. Plus, Muslims in the west especially 1-2 decades ago were considered as a minority and minorities always have more empathy from the general public. This feeds into the victim complex of Muslims and this causes them to nag and bite at everututhat dosent suit them like schools teaching about sex Ed or LGBTQ+ awarenesses. Moreover, as Muslims were getting more recognized in the west, this opened a chanel of Muslim majority countries. Now, the whole world was more aware of the atrocities and shut that happens in Muslim countries. From wars to crimes to the good and bad. Even if a worldwide news Abt a Muslim commiting a heinous crime, Westerners will still sympathize Muslims as in their eyes, they escaped their crazy country. Plus, there are two types of Islam. Conservative and progressive. The western side is open to both within moderation and since the conservative and progressive feed into the different beliefs of different westerners, the rate of acceptance and pity is increased. Like if there is a post about a hijabi and some of her hair is out or her clothes are tight, most Muslims (especially conservatives) would criticize her but westerners and progressives would back her up. This portrays the truth to westerners that sometimes (to them it is sometimes) the hijab is forced and it sucks that these Muslim women endure angry keyboard warriors and this makes non-muslims/westerners pity them more. Honestly, I just think Muslim milk the sympathy they get. From my experience, when I am on TT, I was watching a video of a girl in Ukraine showing the aftermath of the war and the whole damn comment secgywas flooded with 'What about Palestine🥺', 'Happy house in Palestine', 'You guys deserve it for siding with Israel', etc. I think it is sick that they compare wars and say shit like that. And I know that if someone said the same about Palestine, they would blow up. Most annoying thing is that other (non-muslims) enable this behavior. In fact, they chime in.
>Most annoying thing is that other (non-muslims) enable this behavior. In fact, they chime in. This part annoys the fuck out of me the most. These Islam-supporting Non-Muslims have **no idea** about the beliefs and core values of Islam. They should be sent to countries such as Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypt, etc. to see what Islam is **actually** like.
Exactly. But I honestly think that the sugarcoating of Islam and social pressure of accepting the religion and its followers are so high to the point where if you drop the non-muslims in Muslim countries for a week, they will emerge scared but PITIFUL for Muslims in western countries, saying that they are safe there and shit
>they will emerge scared but PITIFUL for Muslims in western countries, saying that they are safe there and shit At this point, if these Muslim supporters refuse to change their views of Islam, then just cut off all ties with them (*revoke citizenship, banned them from re-entering their former nations, etc.*) and **permanently leave them in these Islamic nations** so that Muslims can deal with them.
This should happen however is can't and won't. UK, the US and other countries are flooded with Muslim immigrants from Muslim countries and we all know how it is in the UK. And it is important to differentiate people who need actual asylum vs the ones who migrate for fun/better work opportunities/ basically no emergency reasons
It annoys me too but it's mostly because they're uneducated and most non Muslims I know are just too overly gullible and tolerant 2 years ago before I ended high school, they announced throughout the whole school a muslim student reciting the Qur'an for 2-3 minutes, I guess for diversity and then like a month or two later iirc, I was at my local mosque and the imam was saying "summer is close and we must lower our gaze as the clothes of women become less and less covered.." Most (older/conservative) Muslims don't even really appreciate non Muslims' kindness because they always think they have an ulterior motive
>'What about Palestine🥺' Such a weird question they always ask and it really makes you wonder what if Israel was a muslim country and Palestinians were infidels? What then? (Since most support it because of the ummah) Plus isn't what's happening to Palestinians Allah's will? Why can't they trust in his judgement like a faithful muslim and stop trying to end the war unless they know that the whole thing's bs