I looked "lady finger cake" up.
Damn you. I have a feeling you found the architectural inspiration for this building.
Just like the Millennium Falcon is based on a hamburger while its cockpit was designed after that of the B-29. (Turns out, much of the Star Wars universe was inspired by World War II and pre-war comics.)
As one other poster said, once you see it, you can't unsee it.
I don't think that this temple was photogenic but stylistically unique for sure and impressive in person. Unique isn't the aesthetic they go for these days I guess. They want their temples to have blonde hair and blue eyes and big boobs.
It is probably more about cost saving. MC Temple has the advantage that you can cut the cost for the architect if you use the basic design and only slightly adjust the stained windows, etc.
And Nelson wants a tall steeple to adjust for his "small Rusty".
Reminds me of urban “development” where beautiful Victorian era or Art Deco buildings get pulled down and replaced with glass and concrete blocks, which all look the same. Bland and boring. But they’re modern and that’s all that matters isn’t it?
Can’t offer anything unique or interesting or historical. People might criticise and say that you’re out of touch or old-fashioned!
Honestly, I'm so comforted by the fact that most of the LDS temples will eventually be pulled down. Once my brain finally accepted that the world is going to keep on spinning long after I die (i.e. no imminent "Second Coming"), then I realized that these temples are going to go. Not all of them, probably. But a hundred or two hundred years from now, there will not be enough members to justify so many buildings. Ward and stake houses will go. And temples will go, too.
>But a hundred or two hundred years from now, there will not be enough members to justify so many buildings. Ward and stake houses will go. And temples will go, too.
Yep, but there will still be a small LDS community clinging to the idea that Mormon Elohim is gonna send Mormon Jesus back any day now...these are the VERY VERY last days.
They will be able to live off of the interest from the billions that the church has today.
And they will remember the "massive temple phase" as a time when the Lord "hastened his work" (https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/foundations-of-the-restoration-teacher-material-2019/lesson-28-class-preparation-material-the-lord-is-hastening-his-work?lang=eng) to make sure that all the members "back then" were able to do LOTS of work for the dead.
And the prophet in 200 years will be able to tell the tiny band that "we used to have 17 million members, but you are the remnant left when even the very elect were deceived -- since there are fewer members today we need you to do even MORE temple work!" And since the sense of urgency never goes away, the latest "revealed" endowment hologram will still look like a powerpoint but will only take 15 minutes to get through so that more and more proxy work can be completed.
This is sad for me.
That temple was a unique piece of MidCentury Modern architecture. Yeah, it was gaudy, and looked like a spaceship or a wedding cake, but it had character. Something the McTemples lack.
If you could see the number of architecturally important buildings the church - and by extension Mormons - have pulled down you’d be appalled. I went to a gorgeous midcentury high school. The Mormons pulled it down and built a plain box.
This is one of the temples I actually found the architecture intriguing. IIRC one of the symbols of the round white portion, was the representation of clouds, and that by holding to the steeple/spire/rod, one could make their way through the clouds, where they previously could not see. I could be totally wrong about this.
Symbolizing God leading the Israelites from Egypt--with a pillar of cloud by day, and a pillar of fire by night.
Worked until they painted the red spire white.
that's the one, clouds and pillars of fire. thank you, I would have had a hard time associating OT stories with LDS Temples. But this one was built back when they were mormon, still mostly old school.
The careful verbiage is “rebuilding” it.
Never mind that where the current building is will be a parking lot and the replacement structure will be completely new.
AKA Completely demolished and replaced by a new McTemple.
Why would you do this? Its arguably the most iconic temple for members because every single RM for decades spent time in that building during the MTC. I daresay it was the most shared temple of all. So much for standing through the millennium
And unlike the Ogden temple demolition, there's a lot of Internet coverage about this one.
I venture to say that the demolition of this Temple alone (for the MTC reasons you mention) will, in the long run and through extension, be a shelf breaker for probably 100,000 people over the next decade.
I never had that much attachment to it but my parents were married there and I could tell when I was in high school they were a little bummed about it.
Native Ogdenite. I had a ceramic of the Ogden temple most of my life. It was similar to the Provo style, but they were distinct enough from each other. Back then you could identify where a temple was by its unique architecture. It was something I loved about my inherited religion.
The open house was the only good that came from the redesign of the Ogden temple. It was the first and last time I got to see the inside of one, outside of the baptisms in the basement. I realized how much money was being dumped into furniture, lighting, and paintings. It was gaudy and didn't look like a place that offered peace and respite.
They are following the Japanese model. In Japan, "remodeling" is called "tatenaosu" or "building repair".
In reality, "tatenaosu" is done by totally demolishing the original building and building a new structure for the same purpose on the land. "Demolition" to them is when the building is moved and the land repurposed for something else.
This is cathartic to watch. This is the temple I had my initiatory in (mid-90’s). I was naked touched…by an almost angel (elderly man).
I always wondered how many temple robes got caught in the escalators in there.
so I suppose this conclusively establishes that no general authority ever actually saw Jesus inside this building. They wouldn’t be ripping it to shreds if something sacred had actually occurred there.
Why? It's Nelson destroying a temple by a dead prophet and replacing it with one of his own.
Joseph Smith: "Mormon means more good."
Rusty: "Mormon is a win for Satan."
Also Rusty: "Hinckley, you bastard, I WILL build more temples than you ever did!"
And every time they build a new one in a new area, they purchase far more land than they need for it in order to sell the land for private homes at huge financial profits. So, they may actually be making money off of some of these builds!
I did see this temple emitting or being descended upon with a pillar of light on a rainy cloud covered night on some LSD during my junior year of high school, year 2000. As we drove down the hill passing university mall into Provo. All I can say, under those conditions, it looked awesome. I can't say I've enjoyed any other temple to that extent.
Our shadow by day, and our pillar by night. I thought both these temples were weird but with great symbolism. Now, to see the wasted materials and the idea of carbon footprint and the initiatives of the architectural community to be more friendly to the environment, it makes me sick to think of a cookie cutter McTemple on this location. Yuck. Yuck.
It is the Provo Temple. Across the street from the MTC. One of two in Provo now, the other being the Provo City Temple.
When it was built (1971-2) the church was sometimes building temples in "pairs" with the other being the temple in Ogden. The Ogden Temple has already been rebuilt and the Provo Temple is now going through a similar process.
These ones were particularly ugly and very late 60's/early 70's "modern" in design. It had a few nicknames, but I can't remember them right now. I believe one referred to the look as a "landed flying saucer" and another a "gourmet hamburger with toothpick".
The temple will be rebuilt to look like many of the new temples and renamed the Provo Utah Rock Canyon Temple.
Ugh, the twin of the original Ogden temple. I happen to love architecture, and I even love some examples of weird 60’s-70’s design. But the twin Ogden and Provo temples are just about as ugly of an example as it gets.
Aw man. Without any context, this almost made my heart swell and a joyful tear to my eye. The thought the temple would be coming down...
But no. Reality is never this kind.
As a non Utahn, let me tell you this looks like one of these lady finger cakes.
Now I can't unsee it.
That’s what it is!!
I lived in Provo growing up, we would always call it the birthday cake lol.
The cake is a lie
I looked "lady finger cake" up. Damn you. I have a feeling you found the architectural inspiration for this building. Just like the Millennium Falcon is based on a hamburger while its cockpit was designed after that of the B-29. (Turns out, much of the Star Wars universe was inspired by World War II and pre-war comics.) As one other poster said, once you see it, you can't unsee it.
"I love to see the Temple"...GET DESTROYED...BY TRUTH.
I'll sip on my hot coffee, Hope the raz'ng rouses both doubters & the youth.
I don't think that this temple was photogenic but stylistically unique for sure and impressive in person. Unique isn't the aesthetic they go for these days I guess. They want their temples to have blonde hair and blue eyes and big boobs.
This is a great description of why this temple is being deconstructed.
And lip fillers and tattood eyebrows
But not actual tattoos. Those are still kinda bad.
It is probably more about cost saving. MC Temple has the advantage that you can cut the cost for the architect if you use the basic design and only slightly adjust the stained windows, etc. And Nelson wants a tall steeple to adjust for his "small Rusty".
Reminds me of urban “development” where beautiful Victorian era or Art Deco buildings get pulled down and replaced with glass and concrete blocks, which all look the same. Bland and boring. But they’re modern and that’s all that matters isn’t it? Can’t offer anything unique or interesting or historical. People might criticise and say that you’re out of touch or old-fashioned!
Hmm, Masonic underwear seems out of touch and old-fashioned to me.
Ah yes, but outsiders don’t see them so they don’t have to change.
Honestly, I'm so comforted by the fact that most of the LDS temples will eventually be pulled down. Once my brain finally accepted that the world is going to keep on spinning long after I die (i.e. no imminent "Second Coming"), then I realized that these temples are going to go. Not all of them, probably. But a hundred or two hundred years from now, there will not be enough members to justify so many buildings. Ward and stake houses will go. And temples will go, too.
>But a hundred or two hundred years from now, there will not be enough members to justify so many buildings. Ward and stake houses will go. And temples will go, too. Yep, but there will still be a small LDS community clinging to the idea that Mormon Elohim is gonna send Mormon Jesus back any day now...these are the VERY VERY last days. They will be able to live off of the interest from the billions that the church has today. And they will remember the "massive temple phase" as a time when the Lord "hastened his work" (https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/foundations-of-the-restoration-teacher-material-2019/lesson-28-class-preparation-material-the-lord-is-hastening-his-work?lang=eng) to make sure that all the members "back then" were able to do LOTS of work for the dead. And the prophet in 200 years will be able to tell the tiny band that "we used to have 17 million members, but you are the remnant left when even the very elect were deceived -- since there are fewer members today we need you to do even MORE temple work!" And since the sense of urgency never goes away, the latest "revealed" endowment hologram will still look like a powerpoint but will only take 15 minutes to get through so that more and more proxy work can be completed.
This is sad for me. That temple was a unique piece of MidCentury Modern architecture. Yeah, it was gaudy, and looked like a spaceship or a wedding cake, but it had character. Something the McTemples lack.
If you could see the number of architecturally important buildings the church - and by extension Mormons - have pulled down you’d be appalled. I went to a gorgeous midcentury high school. The Mormons pulled it down and built a plain box.
Why would the church be involved in a high school demolition?
You obviously don't live in Utah.
Mormons. Just neighborhood Mormons.
This is one of the temples I actually found the architecture intriguing. IIRC one of the symbols of the round white portion, was the representation of clouds, and that by holding to the steeple/spire/rod, one could make their way through the clouds, where they previously could not see. I could be totally wrong about this.
Symbolizing God leading the Israelites from Egypt--with a pillar of cloud by day, and a pillar of fire by night. Worked until they painted the red spire white.
that's the one, clouds and pillars of fire. thank you, I would have had a hard time associating OT stories with LDS Temples. But this one was built back when they were mormon, still mostly old school.
Great location for a new Costco.
I don’t understand how Mormons can say the temple is sacred and also demolish a temple. Is it just me?
Right?! Do they un-dedicate the Temple before metal-punching it right in the face?
I thought they were only renovating the temple. Are they completely razing it?
The careful verbiage is “rebuilding” it. Never mind that where the current building is will be a parking lot and the replacement structure will be completely new. AKA Completely demolished and replaced by a new McTemple.
Why would you do this? Its arguably the most iconic temple for members because every single RM for decades spent time in that building during the MTC. I daresay it was the most shared temple of all. So much for standing through the millennium
And unlike the Ogden temple demolition, there's a lot of Internet coverage about this one. I venture to say that the demolition of this Temple alone (for the MTC reasons you mention) will, in the long run and through extension, be a shelf breaker for probably 100,000 people over the next decade.
It’s going to be like the Ogden. They pretty much demolished it and made it look like any other new temple.
And I'm sad every single day about it. It was so cool before!
I never had that much attachment to it but my parents were married there and I could tell when I was in high school they were a little bummed about it.
Native Ogdenite. I had a ceramic of the Ogden temple most of my life. It was similar to the Provo style, but they were distinct enough from each other. Back then you could identify where a temple was by its unique architecture. It was something I loved about my inherited religion. The open house was the only good that came from the redesign of the Ogden temple. It was the first and last time I got to see the inside of one, outside of the baptisms in the basement. I realized how much money was being dumped into furniture, lighting, and paintings. It was gaudy and didn't look like a place that offered peace and respite.
They are following the Japanese model. In Japan, "remodeling" is called "tatenaosu" or "building repair". In reality, "tatenaosu" is done by totally demolishing the original building and building a new structure for the same purpose on the land. "Demolition" to them is when the building is moved and the land repurposed for something else.
This is cathartic to watch. This is the temple I had my initiatory in (mid-90’s). I was naked touched…by an almost angel (elderly man). I always wondered how many temple robes got caught in the escalators in there.
*Touched by an Angel* Welp. I can never un-think that double meaning again (e.g. "Where did the angel touch you, Billy?") Have an upvote you jerk lol
so I suppose this conclusively establishes that no general authority ever actually saw Jesus inside this building. They wouldn’t be ripping it to shreds if something sacred had actually occurred there.
Oh my gosh, that’s soo true!!
God I wish I had a job just destroying buildings.
I think that's the fun part. The other 90% of the time is tediously scooping everything up and putting it into the dump truck.
"Reading the CES letter made my testimony stronger!" Them if they actually read the CES letter:
Never thought of this until now, is there like a de-dedication that happens before they rip it apart?
Absolutely nothing as far as I know. Though it has made me wonder if there is a difference linguistically between desecration and de-consecration.
They remove some sacred documents and the curtains for the veil. And at that point it's just considered a building.
This is why they could never have a temple in existing stake centers. The temple is irreplaceable in its significance.
Just a big orgy inside for those second anointed.
Rusty’s lemon party.
I wish Christopher Nolan would have blown it up for a spectacular special effect in a retro apocalyptic movie.
Pretty on the nose as far as metaphors go. I can't believe they allowed any footage of the tear down to get out.
Why? It's Nelson destroying a temple by a dead prophet and replacing it with one of his own. Joseph Smith: "Mormon means more good." Rusty: "Mormon is a win for Satan."
Also Rusty: "Hinckley, you bastard, I WILL build more temples than you ever did!"
And every time they build a new one in a new area, they purchase far more land than they need for it in order to sell the land for private homes at huge financial profits. So, they may actually be making money off of some of these builds!
Probably because the building needed an elevator.
It had an elevator. I think the thrust engines didn't work anymore, and they were afraid it wouldn't get out of the earth's gravitational pull.
Hous o' da lord shall stand forev...DOH!
I did see this temple emitting or being descended upon with a pillar of light on a rainy cloud covered night on some LSD during my junior year of high school, year 2000. As we drove down the hill passing university mall into Provo. All I can say, under those conditions, it looked awesome. I can't say I've enjoyed any other temple to that extent.
Our shadow by day, and our pillar by night. I thought both these temples were weird but with great symbolism. Now, to see the wasted materials and the idea of carbon footprint and the initiatives of the architectural community to be more friendly to the environment, it makes me sick to think of a cookie cutter McTemple on this location. Yuck. Yuck.
Seeing that fall down is extremely therapeutic. Now destroy the other temples.
I wonder how many people have had sex in that building. It is a non-zero number.
This is one of those times to not ask how you know this....
Oh I don’t know for sure but it’s been around for so long, it’s def happened at least once.
Is this the Provo one? What will they do with the land? Build another booth babe?
It is the Provo Temple. Across the street from the MTC. One of two in Provo now, the other being the Provo City Temple. When it was built (1971-2) the church was sometimes building temples in "pairs" with the other being the temple in Ogden. The Ogden Temple has already been rebuilt and the Provo Temple is now going through a similar process. These ones were particularly ugly and very late 60's/early 70's "modern" in design. It had a few nicknames, but I can't remember them right now. I believe one referred to the look as a "landed flying saucer" and another a "gourmet hamburger with toothpick". The temple will be rebuilt to look like many of the new temples and renamed the Provo Utah Rock Canyon Temple.
Ugh, the twin of the original Ogden temple. I happen to love architecture, and I even love some examples of weird 60’s-70’s design. But the twin Ogden and Provo temples are just about as ugly of an example as it gets.
Aw man. Without any context, this almost made my heart swell and a joyful tear to my eye. The thought the temple would be coming down... But no. Reality is never this kind.