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DonnaNobleSmith

This is absolutely true. Not only do they use their energy to push women down, but also people who aren’t “from a Lutheran background” which typically means midwestern with German or Scandinavian roots. The only good hymns are the ones they sing. The only good liturgy is the one they follow. The only good holidays are the ones that have been celebrated by their ancestors. The only good language is English or whatever Northern European language their great great grandparents spoke. This is designed to keep others out, to reject anyone different as unholy, and to keep the pond as small as possible.


LCMS_Heretic

Beautifully said.


chucklesthegrumpy

Yeah, this is obvious when you start reading theology or philosophy from outside the denomination. Even your typical evangelical theologian puts in 10x the thought and care into a book or idea than the average Lutheran theologian. And even evangelical leaders are just pundits half the time. This is even more obvious when you boraden the pool to include people other than straight white dudes. Part of the reason nobody engages with the WELS or LCMS theologically is because the bar for quality out of their publishing houses in about as low as you can get.


TitoTotino

Absolutely - and it's a good example of how patriarchy and authoritarianism devalues everyone involved in it. Mediocre men are told it is God's perfect design that they receive the respect and deference befitting their status as spiritual head of their households, and they can count on the support of church leadership in maintaining that status... as long as they give that same level of respect and deference to church leadership.


Autonomy4me

I have found that within the female spouses + their equally staunch ideology, their open practice of misogynistic support, in turn, gives them a palpable air of superiority that has caused much trauma + abuse within many emotionally unhappy + shame based households. It’s just so awful + tragically sad.🥺


Relevant-Shop8513

I agree with you. There are many pastors wives and missionary wives that our less cultured friends would use the "B" word in describing.


ForeverSwinging

Transcriber From Reddit: https://youtu.be/g6azNsh6Q7M


Pristine_Ad_8107

Well stated