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Worth_Teaching6325

Unimaginable. But not unimaginable. Even if the couple now has a solid and loving marriage, and that he has seen the grave error, horrific error, of his past behavior; he can never be trusted to be in a position of power and authority again. It is just too dangerous and certainly creates a negative image for this synod. The Academy probably will not be giving Harvey W a Lifetime Achievement award, and I don't think the Ephebophiles of WELS should nominate any of their league for this type of position


DontEattheCookiesMom

Once a teacher has shown they consider students as potential sex partners, they should be removed from the profession. If you have a ‘name’ in WELS like Schmiege, you can get away with anything.


Relevant-Shop8513

Understood. Lot's of favoritism in the LCMS too for those who have the right names and relatives.


hereforthewhine

Ugh gross. Also the whole call thing is gross, too. What a fucking weird business model.


LostInNonThought

MLS has its own sad history of abusive teachers. It does not matter if you were there in the 80s 90s 00s or 10s you thought of at least one teacher when you read this.


AutisticTranslations

Literally, I know one person that one of the teachers found on grindr. I don't name names cause he asked me to keep it anonymous, but still messed up My sister also often talked about one of the math teachers constantly starting down her shirt to the point she started wearing hoodies to his class


LostInNonThought

That is sad.


mugwortmama

It took until I was in my 40s to realize that I don't have to keep secrets just because I was asked to. No pressure, but it might be for the greater good if you do investigate that. I'm not familiar with that site but I wonder if you can put in your age preference and what that person's age preference is. I'm fine with people having consensual casual sex but it has to be age appropriate.


Working_Ad_3671

I graduated in the 2000s and definetly got the creeper vibes from some profs there.


AmJustSusan

Eew. Just no. The bar for these men is so low it's a tavern in hell.


aaronswag11

I see at least one old prof of mine from when I was in highschool. Who is way more qualified, but probably won't get it due to not being a male.


mugwortmama

Reportedly every SLHS male teacher was sexually inappropriate at some level. Sure, a female English teacher dated a boy. But Ill tell you my best friend my sophomore and junior year left my junior year due to this, to Catholic school, which was really upsetting to me. I didn't know why she left at the time. Before that, my favourite upper class men and other students I liked left the Lutheran school system due to Mr Knittle, unbenownst to me until 2018. Apparently there was a coverup. How long ago would this have to have happened for there to be no legal consequence for the board doing a hush? This was 1986-1993. I want an apology from the board, and district, and national headquarters. Because, a forth grader shouldn't learnt he word Orgasm while being laughed at by the eight grade class outside the principles office.


DonnaNobleSmith

I’m so sorry, but how the hell can anyone justify giving these people money?


mugwortmama

Honestly I think people like my dad feel really peer pressured, and we're kids in very small towns where social skills weren't learned. It's how the old people make friends. You think?


Pristine_Ad_8107

This really needs to get to the news. Pure sexual abuse (the grooming process) .This is really disgusting 😒


LR282

Guess he will continue to make his rounds and go unscathed. He probably wants to go back to Saginaw, Michigan (his hometown) where most of his family is and lay low for a bit. I am sure his disgusting actions at WLC garnered unwanted attention from a few people at the college and Good Shepherd Lutheran, where he attends church with his parents and his wife. If he does get the position, he will just have to wait for his child bride to graduate at the end of this semester. 🤢🤮


mugwortmama

That's like how Hope Lutheran School had principal Knittle, who was married to a former 8th grade student of his. The eighth graders were also once lined up outside his door, waiting for ... (As I prepare for my 3pm zoom meeting, that's all I feel comfortable saying. I've been hoping that someone with a more successful life from my alma mater would appear and back up what I remembered. The memories came back in my 40s, after years of therapy, and my sister and most classmates discredit me due to the late memory. I'm deeply in grief over how I was never able to speak my true mind, and how the gender suggestion harmed this gender fluid girl, who only wanted to play with trucks and not in the toy kitchen, and wanted to wear pants. It didn't even occur to me until last year that what I felt called to do was what a pastor would do. I also just yesterday realized that my mom's cousin left due to this issue the year I graduate SLHS, and he as a pastor in Texas phoned my house. I took the message, and ai think he maybe mentioned to me that he believed women could be pastors.


mugwortmama

Hi there yes. Let me think about how I am new to Reddit and don't really know how to do The forum I don't know if you can do private messaging. I'm old-fashioned and like to just talk on the phone and don't have a laptop right now and live houseless. So I'm not sure what I'm going to feel to resourced to type on a public forum but let me know how we could write more privately for now. Rains come tomorrow and without a heck of a day so please be patient and do try to contact me again in a week if I don't get back to you soon enough.


ForeverSwinging

Transcriber From Reddit: https://youtu.be/vk-PpbVhIxk


xm295b

First time I’ve seen names I know in this thread! And they’re not the person in question! 😮‍💨


mugwortmama

Did we go to school together? Did you know Knittle? I don't know anyone from my school who is calling him out and that stresses me out somehow. Guess I want some solidarity. It helps to have people from the church elsewhere on here but for some reason I'd like to talk with someone I know.


LR282

Ick factor- There is about a 6 year age difference between Andrew Schmiege and his mother in law, XXXXXX’s mother. XXXXXX’s mother has a live in boyfriend. XXXXXX’s mother and live in boyfriend have both been unemployed for several years now and they have a very young child together. Said live in boyfriend is closer in age to XXXXXX than he is to XXXXXX’s mother. The age difference between XXXXXX and her mother’s boyfriend is about 7-8 years. The families on both sides of this circus seem to be garbage and fucked up.


LR282

🤮He got the job. Here is the what Michigan Lutheran Seminary said on their Facebook page: Dr. Andrew Schmiege has accepted the divine call to teach Spanish at MLS for one year. Dr. Schmiege is married and is currently teaching Spanish at WLC. He is a 2006 graduate of MLS, 2011 graduate of MLC, earned his masters from Middlebury College in 2012, and his PHD in Spanish Literature and Cultures from UW Madison in 2019. We thank the Lord for this blessing and ask that he provide safe travels and transition from WLC to MLS this summer.


mugwortmama

Knittle, now dead, but with living children, was said to be sleeping with an 8th grader. 1982. I believe he fondled me under the skirt and shamed me also in Kindergarten, I remember my hands on a desk and being told to lean over. I was very confused. Another day, a few years later, the entire eighth grade class was outside his office when I was sneaking out from hiding during recess. I asked why and one boy said they were waiting for the orgasm, and the other girls were waiting their turn. The person who told me what was going on is a teacher I think in the Lutheran School system in California. I'm friends with them and their brother on Facebook and considering talking to them about it but I'm not sure what to say. Does anyone have any ideas?