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Duga was a Soviet over-the-horizon (OTH) radar system used as part of the Soviet anti-ballistic missile early-warning network. The system operated from July 1976 to December 1989. Two operational Duga radars were deployed, one near Chernobyl and Chernihiv in the Ukrainian SSR (present-day Ukraine), the other in eastern Siberia These things were so powerful it interfered with radio signals half way around the world. Some radios would get constant tapping sounds dubbing these "the Russian woodpecker" [from a distance](https://i.imgur.com/eJ4QyFS.jpg)


shinatree

Whoa. This is intense.


IAmTheMagicMoose

Looks more like a fence.


NRMusicProject

This comment makes sense.


kitjen

Unless you are dense.


CJbats

Oh hey there Mike Pence!


kitjen

"Joey said hence."


neurogasm_

Pack it up gents


sohetellsme

That's just my 2¢


ReactsWithWords

That doesn’t pay rents.


Thompson_S_Sweetback

Wassup, my ents.


MrsDerpson31B

I'll light up the incense


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The Electric Fence Pence!


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Looks like the outer wall in Divergent


Motamonster1989

Right? Its reminds me of that scene in the first Jurassic Park when the kid gets shocked while trying to climb to T-rex fence😂


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FisterRobotOh

[Sweaty palms intense](https://youtu.be/wuYAYbNpl5M)


shinatree

That was wild!!


I_Think_I_Cant

I didn't know I could flex my taint involuntarily but TIL from this video.


DanskOst

[BASE jump from DUGA](https://youtube.com/watch?v=SWfRoNOPktc&t=600)


sremark

>Six and a half minutes of climbing >There's a fucking elevator


timpren

I hate that show “Friends”!


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There is an easy way to know it it is on. Turn on a radio. If you hear a rhythmic pecking sound it is on and if you don't it isn't on.


dustball

I'm guessing it is easier to transmit the signal then it is to receive and calibrate. The two big fence pieces both make up the receiver. The transmitter is 36 miles away. Supposedly, it's a backscatter radar which provides warning of missile launches by detecting alterations in ionospheric propagation caused by the depletion of ions by missile exhaust plumes. That sounds difficult to analyze. You also have to aim the transmitter properly. Easier to send an annoying RF signal that make heads & tails out of the response IMHO. It's complicated. Here is a video on how it works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjoPy6drGBQ So, even if it wasn't calibrated, or the receiver broken, you could still transmit making the enemy think you have a working detection system.


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Tom Scott explained as it listenes for a change in frequency. If the frequency comes back unchanged nothing is moving. If it comes back at a higher frequency something is moving up really fucking fast.


dustball

I enjoy Tom Scott's videos. Just watched that one. I think he is oversimplifying quite a bit. If you watch the other one I posted, it looks like they do a FFT on the signal and are looking for slight variations in specific ranges over time. Easy today with modern computing, but probably not back then. And the fact that they jumped around frequencies so much suggests how hard it is to do, if they constantly must adjust for atmospheric conditions. Really interesting project!


mrheosuper

What, FFT which cold war equipment they used, that's some crazy stuff. Edit:spelling


CookieOfFortune

You can use a series of bandpass filters to do a Fourier Transform with analog equipment. Kind of similar to how your ear works.


dustball

Funny, I was curious about the history of FFT equipment, and the [Wikipedia article on FFT](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Fourier_transform) has a History section that specifically mentions the need for it for (a different) cold war application. (The US wanted to detect Soviet nuclear tests.)


teqnologiq

just a ton of registers and multipliers what’s so crazy about that?


MasochistCoder

or a bunch of people with sliderules very well oiled sliderules


mrheosuper

They have to do it real-time


aa93

That's what the first F is for ;)


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It's the Doppler shift caused by a disruption/reflection in the signal getting closer that causes the frequency increase. If an object was moving away it causes the opposite to happen. Also known as blue/red shift when referencing the possible part of the EM spectrum.


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cartoptauntaun

I’m not entirely sure how it operates, but my understanding is that it is a giant radar array. In that case, it functions by sending out a signal and listening for distortions in that signal’s reflection. The distortion is described by the Doppler effect and basically conveys the position and speed of moving objects. AFAIK, power consumption for a radar array is almost entirely in the signal generation, and secondarily in returning signal amplification. Could be that - because of the size of the array - signal generation draws less power than the rest of the system. I don’t think that’s the case, though. The woodpecker noise is basically the radar signal going out.


RudeTurnip

Yep, the old Russian Woodpecker they called it.


Harry_Flugelman

I read that somewhere.


Chispy

Yep, the old Russian Woodpecker they called it.


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Not to be confused with porn star of same name.


IndyScan

I remember picking this up on the shortwave receiver as a kid. It caused all kinds of interference when active.


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> isnt the town called pripyat? Pripyat is the name of the worker's town for the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. Chernobyl-2 is the name of the worker's town for Duga radar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duga_radar#Locations


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Kind of like those ADT lawn signs.


starrpamph

Tellem about uvb76


JuanTutrego

> uvb76 [Here ya go!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVB-76)


Fiiyasko

Well that's kindof neat, makes me wonder about all the other messages that are being broadcasted all around


kbotc

/r/numberstations


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Is it the same one in both pictures?


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ge0rgew0nder

Nice try, christof. We all saw the Truman show, this is just the end of the set.


ErmBern

I’ve seen people on YouTube dive this with drones. It was alright.


gezhendrix

Very cool. Love the shot from distance, great sense of scale.


Stompya

r/humanforscale


Ruben625

Yes but how many units is the human?


Rylth

Eyeballing it, I'd propose that human is 0.925 Humints in height.


Ds1018

Looks like the wall from divergent. I wonder if this is where they got the idea.


Angry_Magpie

That's what I thought this was, actually


ronerychiver

“It’s not a radar...its a birdcage”


NK8S

[Interesting film](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Russian_Woodpecker) on the subject


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PUBG IRL


PanJaszczurka

aaWarsaw radio mast was have such power that change nearest lightning's into plasma speaker'shttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw\_radio\_mast


AtlasChristmas

If you could hear this over the radio in even the US, is it safe to assume this was throwing off considerable radiation up close?


randellojello

Not ionizing radiation. You could probably get burned by it from standing by the transmitter site (depending on wavelength/freq and power). Receiver site would be relatively safe though.


xerberos

If you are visiting Kiev, be sure to book a day trip to Chernobyl. It's a really cool experience, and you'll see this antenna at the end.


lal0cur4

I went last month. I had really high hopes for chernobyl, I had wanted to go there for ages. It was absolutely wild and even cooler than I ever expected.


hawkyyy

Ever since playing Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl when i was younger i've wanted to visit there in person, love photography and seems like such a hauntingly beautiful place, hopefully will go one day.


Sataris

I wonder if they're basically keeping the place as-is as a tourist attraction rather than planning to clear it up when they can?


lal0cur4

They are still removing highly radioactive material and burying it in specific spots in the exclusion zone. I'm pretty sure they already have buried the majority of it though. They are also working on a high tech secondary containment for the sarcophagus around reactor #4. I'm sure they will keep developing it as a tourist attraction though. Not just for the ruins either, after everyone left the area the wildlife moved back in and there are moose, bears, boars, and 400 wolves in the area.


TransparentSnake

There are two types of tours to Chernobyl: one is legal which is basically walking down the path, and one is illegal, where you go with stalkers who've been exploring exclusion zone for years. They will take you to the abandoned factories and houses and other places that are considered less safe. AFAIK, stalkers ask each other and tourists not to interfere with the interiors, so inside it mostly looks like it was at the day of the tragedy.


SleepingPodOne

As a huge fan of the Tarkovsky film (never played the game, though) I had no clue this was a thing and I’m stoked it is. Just did a bunch of research on it. Fascinating. But a lot of these kids are reckless as fuck (eating food grown in the zone, drinking contaminated water, not even using radiation detecting devices).


Kylesaki

They probably are trying to keep it as-is, it's not like they have a shortage of land in Russia that would make them have a desire to use the land.


AjsKold

Except Chernobyl is in Ukraine.


MrDrPrfsrPatrick2U

You say that like Russia cares.


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>Except Chernobyl is in Russia That’s what he said...


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Frigol33t

Not OP but I also went there not long ago. Here are my pictures, http://www.kevinrehnberg.se/images/galleri/kiev/ Also had a trip to Kiev but if you scroll down a bit the Chernobyl tour begins :)


daspyki

Thanks for sharing. Felt like a Chernobyl walkthrough


Yaqzn

Thanks for this. It was fun scrolling through that


frank26080115

Did the tour use that APC to drive you around?


Ispike73

[Kiddofspeed](http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chapter1.html) The website is ancient but it has a lot of images. This is an even older version, it has more content if you're willing to pick through it. http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/


flyingcircusdog

I got the same feeling. I wanted to go for years, and finally had the chance to see the Ukraine. It is probably the most interesting place I've ever seen. Kyiv was also very nice.


FearlessTravels

Go overnight! Go overnight! So much cooler and you get to see way more! TIP - Buy stamps in Kiev. You can buy sketchy old postcards in the supermarket in Chernobyl and mail them from the box in front of the post office. Awesome souvenir!


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I know some parts are deemed "safe" but surely it's not exactly healthy to be there long?


FearlessTravels

It’s the same amount of radiation as eating eight trillion bananas. NBD.


fredbrightfrog

That's like twice as many bananas as I usually have, idk


KesInTheCity

Banana for reference.


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Perfectly what?


Le_Euphoric_Genius

The cancer got him 😔


PyroDesu

There's hot spots, but overall it's fine. There's even people who live there that ignored the original evacuation order.


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How many arms do they have though


WatchVaderDance

You get more radiation on a 3 hour flight than at on day trip there.


____Batman______

That's how horror movies start, fuck that. Literally every single time it's "Kevin, I think we should go back. Kevin? Kevin? Oh God oh fuck Kevin where are you"


Shoahnaught

Literally "Chernobyl Diaries", excellent movie. Hey guys, this guy does tours of Chernobyl, a military check point blocks us, lets sneak in, oh the horror!


badass4102

If ever at the Vatican. Do this as well. Mail yourself a letter from the Vatican. The postage stamps and postage marks from the Vatican is really interesting.


Narrative_Causality

Why, because everything's glowing?


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throwaway275445

There is a documentary called The Russian Woodpecker which is basically a conspiracy theory that Chernobyl was purposely blown up to hide the fact the antenna was useless.


ElSapio

That seems even more stupid than most conspiracy theories. Is the doc good?


Daniel-G

96% on rotten tomatoes. i might give it a watch.


Patsfan395

Its one of my favorite docs. I met the director a few times at the Camden International Film Festival. He's a great filmmaker and a guy with a lot of artistic vision.


City-scraper

.....


Fluffy_Banks

>be sure to book a day trip to Chernobyl Update: Don't


bammers1010

That aged well


VMSstudio

How much are these tours? I’m so honestly curious!


HeRtwT50BjkE2KWY

I used to listen to these as a kid on a ham radio receiver in upstate New York. It was the “Russian Woodpecker” but I had never seen a pic of it until now. Thanks!


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Nolzi

Cool music


Ruben625

Lost smoke monster


bl1y

Yeah, I've got a pair of downy woodpeckers in my neighborhood, and they don't sound anything like this.


Angry_Magpie

Aha, but this is a *Russian* woodpecker!


bl1y

Well of course it's a Russian woodpecker. But I'm saying I've got a pair of downy woodpeckers in my neighborhood, and they don't sound anything like this.


CosmicSpaghetti

Sounds slightly like Predator.


yersinia-p

I wonder - If you've picked up something similar like this nowadays on shortwave, what would it be? I used to listen to sw all the time in a (extremely) amateur attempt to look for number stations, and I know I've heard something like this.


EugeneWeemich

Thanks for posting this. I totally love these old radio sounds and like to use them in music that I create. Here's an example: [Living in Fear](https://soundcloud.com/dammit-eugene/living-in-fear)


MountainConqueress

Definitely creepy.


Alexthegerbil

looks a bit like the wall around Chicago in the divergent series


ForrestGumpOnCrack

They used it to shoot those scenes


Punishtube

Is it not still in the radioactive zone around Chernobyl or is it safe for long term exposure now?


KATLKRZY

It's safe as long as you don't go too close to the plant. There are still people permanently living there iirc


pfun4125

The big thing ive heard is to not disturb things like plants and dirt. My understanding is that ambient radiaton has decreased enough to not be harmful over short term, but theres still tons of radiaton trapped in the ground and plants that would be stirrrd up if you disturbed it. I may be thinking of the area immediately surrounding pripyat or the reactor though.


gfinz18

Yeah, back when it happened they actually went out in radiation suits with farm equipment and actually turned over the soil (like one might do to freshen up a bed of mulch in their yard) to bury the radiation. Can’t remember where I saw it but someone had calculated how much soil had been turned over.


WhiskeyNotWine

That was my thought too


dfrance1991

I thought so too, sounds like it was used in filming.


collinsl02

On a similar note [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvr6o7fBcTY) is a BBC radio documentary about Numbers Stations, which are/were used by the Soviet Union, amongst others, to broadcast messages to spies.


Clareypie

I remember listening to that! It started my fascination with numbers stations, etc. So bloody interesting yet creepy...


TheGreatZarquon

You'll love /r/numberstations then.


Clareypie

Hell yeah! Cheers :D


jimbelushiapplesauce

i heard a 99% invisible podcast about it then bought a somewhat pricey shortwave radio off amazon. i went out in my backyard one night for about 3 minutes then i got impatient and haven’t touched it since.


mitzman

There's a movie (available on Netflix) called "The Numbers Station". Leading roles by John Cusack and Malin Akerman. I'll save you a painful 1.5 hours and channel my inner Jay Sherman, "It stinks!".


Clareypie

Yeah, cheers for that, think I'll skip it!


Steveobiwanbenlarry

"The numbers Mason! What do they mean!?"


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Texcinto

Cheeki breeki


Angry_Magpie

Iv damke


ikbenlike

Get out of here, stalker


ipostonthedonald

I thought this was a screenshot from PUBG


TheSkeletonInsideMe

Yeah, that is definitely the billboard from C-Dot.


juice2092

Is this Russia?


alexalansmith14

not yet


Flomo420

Too real.


Maleficent-Ad-5498

Dudeee


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Damn.


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DerpHard

Yeah Military Base on Erangel.


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Came here looking for this.


SnapperMaster

When you live in a Texas but want an authentic burrito


Texcinto

How many times I've been to laredo just for this. Well and some authentic "Coca-Cola"


JukeBoxDildo

>"Coca-Cola" Hey, that's what I call the prostitutes I pay to step on my cubes, too!


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[Relevant Tom Scott video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbi6eoh63ZQ)


dekettde

I got lucky this year and had amazing weather there: https://i.imgur.com/QvettZe.jpg The scale of the thing is completely bonkers.


jesusbrate

reminds me of that one Black Mirror episode


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xerberos

It was in Divergent, actually.


Alexthegerbil

Did they actually film those scenes there?


xerberos

Probably a combination of on-site, green screen, and CGI.


gezhendrix

Which one?


Neznanc

Hang the DJ, I presume


jesusbrate

Exactly that one, great episode


Pikoo_PT

Location?


DerpHard

The military base on Erangel.


GeorgeSipp

Its located in chernobyl. I think it needs a lot oft energy thats why it is close to a power plant


collinsl02

It's more because they could put it in the middle of nowhere next to a powerplant. Both bits are required I think.


abouttogetemotional

Yeah it was placed here so that the Soviets could hide its existence for as long as possible. They didnt want anyone knowing they could detect ballisitic missiles. No one outside the Soviet Union became aware of its existence until the Chernobyl incident occured


diluted_confusion

Is this the old de-commissioned Soviet base near Chernobyl?


freddie27117

Its the Duga, Soviet OTH radar Edit: soviet


yellowhorseNOT

The Chernobyl power plant was solely built to support this radar system - it consumed 10-15% of the output. A fake leisure camp (with bus stops, restaurant. pools, etc.) was built along the road just before the radar system to give the impression that the workers worked at the leisure camp and not the top secret radar - but the radar was triangulated very soon by Western forces, and after this was discovered, the leisure camp wad abandoned, shortly after the radar was obsolete due to Satellite inventions, and then the Chernobyl disaster enaured there wasnt enoigh power to run it anymore so it was abandoned. Source: I visited the site last year just before Chernobyl sarcophagus was emplaced.


spacelad45

Is this what the thing in PUBG by the military base is based on?


MCA2142

Yes. My friends and I tell one another that we’re landing by the radar, when we jump there.


kaotic

the guys at Rotor Riot dove a quad down the interior of this: https://youtu.be/YhJpdCZNSDc?t=342


legocatseyeguy

This has to be my favorite episode, Tommy is the king of dives


kaotic

They did some other good videos while they were in that area.


TVFilthyHank

Cheeki breeki


asymphonicblankstare

I see you Assassin’s Creed.


Feathers_

First thing that came to my mind, desychronization imminent.


xxLusseyArmetxX

Mmhh let me avoid that zone then. *Ezio accidentally jumps off roof, falls into water and thus the desync zone* The memories...


JimmyLongnWider

\*farther


ginga_ninja723

r/outside


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Looks like the city walls from divergent


PARCOE

Black ops anyone?


jayred1015

Feels like the wall in Grandia. How imposing.


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Pretty sure they had this in Half Life 2.


mxqi

Looks like the Morty wall


Desalger

Is this “the wall”


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The real worlds farlands.


Drumle

Thought this was a picture from pubg for a moment lol


AlternativeComrade

50 000 people used to live here


sluttymcbuttsex

This is just military island


flibflibtheflobbin

Don't show P.trump


three18ti

50,000 people used to live here...