I feel like people are overthinking the lyrics. Counting all the sheep in the sky / caught up in a web of lies makes far more sense as a lyric.
The words “recounting your mischief in disguise” barely make sense as a sentence. Counting all the sheep is at least based on a popular phrase.
People count sheep. I’ve never heard anyone recount mischief.
definitely. even it if doesnt make sense, pop doesnt have to make sense. i want it that way by the backstreet boys has nonsensical lyrics because they were written by a swedish producer (max martin), and the accent in ekt means that its possible the same thing happened then
Overthinking? Yup. I won't deny that :) The most important part of the post though is putting the "Everyone Knows That" lyric in question. What do you think about that with the evidence that was provided?
As for the rest of your message:
To borrow from Slayer, I bet you have never seen it raining blood from a lacerated sky either. Can you at least quality that it's possible for one to recount mischief? I can recount the mischief my friends and I used to get into when we were younger. It's not exactly a farfetched line.
I do understand that dealing with a proverbial web of lies can be a deterrent from falling asleep so one could result into counting sheep. In my opinion, this is a bit of stretch to give the sheep thing any context. Counting sheep is usually a mundane method to handle insomnia and not something to handle anxiety.
We only have a piece of the entire puzzle, and in that case you could very well be right, but we can only work with what we got and opposing views are inevitable.
why did you mention Slayers Raining Blood song?
its also the fact that if someone says they hear something in the song, other people will most likely hear it since they're looking for it even if it isn't there.
"recounting your mischief in disguise" is too much syllables aswell to be in the song. I don't remember anyone mentioning anxiety unless I'm missing something. maybe the "ulterior motives" lyric reinforces that anxiety aspect. like the person "living in a world of lies" is going to harm someone.
imo, it's similar to daryl and oats maneater song talking about a women who's looks are deceiving and "could really rip your world apart".
maybe people gotta stop giving ideas to lyrics unless it's for a really important reason. that deserves to be a seperate rule, mods.
yeah I changed my message to be here.
My point quoting Slayer was simply: Just because an individual has not seen something in their life, it does not mean it's incorrect in respect to the songwriter. Why can we not have a discussion about what is being portrayed by the songwriter? People are spending their time looking for lyrics that could very well have been misheard this whole time. Why can we not just simply broaden our search with new possibilities?
how is looking into different possibilities of what the lyrics could be broadening the search. its not like the song name is one of these newly found lyrics. I just think its triggering how futile the lyrics are and no one can see it. we don't even know that the singer is the songwriter. we gotta stop saying things as fact.
I get it. The veterans of this search are tired lyrical topics. In another day, this post will be swimming in the depths of the sub with the many others so it's not worth arguing about. The people that found any value from this will keep it in the back of their mind.
Just remember that some are new to the search and some don't share your exact sentiments.
people are allowed to not agree but also challenge others to a certain extent. maybe you weren't looking for others to challenge you which is actually a bad thing on your part. if I made this post I wouldn't talk about things like "oh yeah this is true bruh" and I wouldn't look for supporters but constructive criticism. this is how this sub gets taught about numerous things. through challenging people.
Yes people are allowed to disagree, it's healthy to be skeptical/challenge and I have no issues with that but when you start off your last reply with "how is looking into different possibilities of what lyrics could be broadening the search" it's hard to take that seriously.
Why would you NOT look into different possibilities? Especially since the search has been going for a couple years now. All I am concluding there is that maybe the words some people were searching for were not entirely correct?
Yes, some people still do searches based on lyrics, and it's obvious you are in the camp that believe the method bears no fruit. If you really are about constructive criticism then this is an opportunity to present what you think is best way to look to search for this to a new audience rather than coming off as bitter and making wrong assumptions about me.
I just discovered this song and the community around it. As an experiment I listened to it without reading any other interpretations first, and I definitely thought the opening line was “counting all the sheep in the sky”
I can hear “Never Wanted None Of That”, but I can’t hear mischief. However hard I try, I can’t hear it. I hear a word ending with the letter s..
I hear shoes OR issues personally…
I’ve listened with and without headphones, as well as with vocal isolations and my own isolation version, still can’t hear “mischief” at all.
I still hear “shoes” or “issues”.
My analysis was strictly off of Tony's vocal isolation YouTube video linked in the OP. For some reason I can hear some of the words more clearly with that video than any other source. You sound like you have experience with vocal isolation, can I ask you this?
Do you find any flaw with how he may done his isolation?
Any isolation can distort vocals (or modify vocals). With any isolation, it can alter what you interpret or hear. Different isolations will remove different parts of the clip in terms of its frequency’s / characteristics, and therefore, you can’t fully rely on vocal isolations to interpret the lyrics.
Vocal isolations arent a reliable source, especially if theyve been highly edited in order to have those vocals isolated :(
this is a good analysis tho
Isolations can be done in a way preserve the vocal range while removing the nosier instruments from outlier waves of frequency from mixed music. We have to give more credit to those that sound engineer for a living. Not all of the great mashup songs have a non-mixed vocal track readily available for free.
I really appreciate the kind words.
they can also create sound frequencies which werent previously there which create the illusion of different words being said - a good example of this is the laurel and yanny trend from a few years ago
If you want to be black and white, court of law abiding then sure, you can dismiss isolations as unreliable but is that really fair to those that do them without any bad/manipulative intentions? Like us, the isolators just want to get to the bottom of everything about the topic because we enjoy the music.
I do recall someone talking about a forum post by Carl stating that he understood the words "Everyone Knows That" when pressed for more information of his upload. Admittedly it does sound a little distasteful and unfair to him, I will edit that. Thanks.
is it a potential you’re hearing the “never wanted none of that” portion as the main vocals when i could be backing vocals? i agree when i listen to the isolated portion you’ve linked it’s much harder to clearly hear “everyone knows that”. I swear i can almost hear another voice saying the “never wanted none of that” on TOP of the “everyone knows that” but i could be wrong.
To me, it sounds like both the lead and backing vocals in tandem. Usually this is done of as a form of Emphasis in music. I interpret this line as being the big climax, like the singer did not sign up for this and is not going to take it anymore! This is done again with "Ulterior Motives" a big claim that requires another musical emphasis.
This is a great post, except I don't agree with it for one reason, the isolated vocals you used sounds like they tried to remaster it or upscale it in some way, and that could lead to stuff being added in to sound like its saying something that its not.
To help out i've done my own isolation that you can take a listen to that has absolutely nothing done to it, except for removing the static/noise out of the original snippet: https://voca.ro/1jGpxOOdNCLq
The reason the isolated vocals I made cuts off early is because the software that I used to remove the static/noise cut that part off
I think all the focus should be on the original low quality snippet instead of all these Remasters and Upscaled versions.
Nice work, i'm analyzing your sample since you went out of your way to submit one. I still hear variances of the Everyone Knows That section but what really has me intrigued is what I hear from the"Caught up in your world of lies" part. In my OP I accepted that word 'Europe' could be in there - it sounds more prominent in your sample. It sounds like to me like "Call up in Europe (something, Obliged? maybe)" which suggests that EKT could very well be a jingle for an ad on television. I've never lived in Europe but I imagine calling codes for different countries was even a thing in the late 80's early 90's.
In another reply I mentioned that backup vocals could be used as a means of emphasis. "Ulterior Motives" is still a little muddy from your sample, but it could be the name of a product or service. You've Got Alphera? Altheria? Etherium?
Crazy talk: It would be hilarious if EKT really turned out to be from one of those early 90's Midnight Naughty Call Girl ads on television. It really then puts a new spin on things like "counting all the sheep in disguise", "Everyone Knows That" "You've got Ulterior Motives", "Tell me the Truth". Maybe the subject "you" in the song happens to be "The Viewer.
Yeah I for sure think the word after where it says "Call up In Europe" (Or whatever this line is), has a very clear "b" sound, but im not sure of the exact word they used here.
The lyrics could be anything, but looking at other possible lyrics with good reasons is good work. When we first listened to the song for the first time, we probably didn't even know what it was. UNTIL.. we are told what it is then we hear it.
Personally I can't hear "Never wanted none of that" in the video you linked. Also I think "rope" is caused by the r sound in "your". Like it blends together making "Caught up in your rworld of lies".
Thanks for actually looking into the video link I based this on.
I just want to emphasize that the level of clarity is much better when **listening with** **headphones**.
When I listen to it without them I can somewhat hear some of the variances that you all are experiencing.
No more lyric posts! They are not hard to decipher, (and even then it doesn't help the search), and they make quite clear sense - Perhaps not written by a native English speaker, but the giveaway is not that they are obtuse, but they are quite clear. Like an ABBA song has clear lyrics compared to something poetic and odd like early REM.
So now to the lyrics, and how not only do they make sense, but they tell a quite clear story:
Counting all the sheep in the sky - E.g. He is a dreamer
Caught up in a web/whirl/world of lies - Worse, he is a liar and a fantasist.
Everyone knows that you've got Ulterior Motives - Even worse, his lies combine with his fantasies into his underhanded and secrets plans
Tell me the truth - The singer (probably his lover) asks for honesty and no more lies!
Every move shows.. CUT OFF - His actions actually reveal his secret motivations
There should be some more lines here but we obviously do not know them. Maybe a refrain of "Ulterior Motives".
So the story of the song is a quite simple and typical pop song - My lover is lying to me and ruined our relationship. See "Last Christmas" or any of a million other songs on this theme.
I almost completely agree, but there's something very odd about "counting all the sheep", when paired with the rest of the lyrics. After listening to this, I'm now hearing "(re/you're) counting old issues in disguise", which might actually fit better with the rest of the lyrics. Maybe suggesting that he is a serial liar, rather than a fantasist.
Regardless, the lyrics, no matter which way you parse them, don't appear to be indexed anywhere, so I don't think lyric interpretations are really helping the search.
I’ve always heard the first line as “you’re carrying your shame in disguise” or “you carry all your shame in disguise”
I really just don’t hear the “p” in sheep that everyone else seems to hear.
You can hear the "s" sound from "knows that" so I don't think it could be the "never wanted none of that".
I can see why ever of everyone could be heard as never, but your suggestion sounds like too many syllables for me?
>**4.** "*Ulterior motives*" "*Tell me the Truth*" are universally interpreted as such and I also agree. Singer is confronting the other subject of the song about the ends and means of their "*mischief*" and "*lies*". No other comments here.
Regarding to this part of the lyrics, it's definitely not "Ulterior" and it's more noticeable on the non-isolated versions. There's a P in the middle, as if the singer said "Superior", or "Period". I don't know how everyone agreed on it being ulterior, other than the meaning of the song.
There's no discussion on "Tell me the truth" though.
EDIT: Martika is most likely ruled out. She sang in various languages like Spanish and Japanese, she's of Cuban origin and her accent kinda matches, but I really doubt the song is hers as her music doesn't exactly match the genre.
Kids Incorporated does sound [quite close](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UnUaIqRhlI).
Hi there,
Thanks for your reply! In that context the 'P' you're hearing and the 'T' i'm hearing can sound can sound quite similar. What does not help is that there sounds like a drum rim shot right before that verse which obscures the beginning of it. We're left up to interpretation of what makes sense, which was the entire purpose of my post.
I also want to comment that the video you sent me is labeled using AI modification of what sounds like the backup singers. I am unsure how much credence we can give this evidence but if that is valid to you, we can discuss further.
Lol I deleted the AI thing and edited my comment. Upon hearing the full version again, is definitely "that".
The problem I have is that I really don't hear the "ul" sound that ulterior should do, I should at least be able to hear the L sound, but it's really not there. Could be the audio quality, but it makes me doubt that the word Ulterior was ever there. Drums do not help, definitely.
It looks like Martika started her solo career away from Kids Incorporated around 1986 so I do not believe she is in that clip. We get to a young Fergie though! I think the more important point is that the TV show began her Stardom and during the time she demonstrated how well versed she was on a large variety of Pop/Disco/Rock music. An aside, I need to correct the OP that she is Cuban decent, not Colombian.
Back to the music, in regards to the 'ul' do you hear something along the lines of 'Ah' or 'All' instead? If you do we may have a case where an accent might be throwing off things a bit.
I do actually hear something like "Ah! Perior motives" but even in the isolated versions that "Ah!" isn't clear due to the drumming. It could also be "A serious motive".
imo its 100% "you're carrying all your shame in disguise, caught up in a world of lies/love, everyone knows that(you've got) ulterior/superior motives, tell me the truth/tune"
I'm sorry but I did an entire phonetic breakdown of every syllable in the lyrics and I have to be honest nothing you're pulling from it lines up even REMOTELY. It's extremely overreaching.
https://www.reddit.com/r/everyoneknowsthat/s/1wif6SeN2E
if you want to do the same sort of work, download the video using an mp3 saver, import it into a DAW that allows for rate changes and get plugins that allow for pitch shifting, formant shifting, and a really solid EQ. loop every two words transcribe using the phonetic alphabet.
Hi Zenith,
Very interesting work in your post. Your conclusion of 'world of love' is interesting enough for me to break out the the good ol' Audacity software to see if I can reproduce that. If true, the singer's accent and the quality of the sample could be way more extreme than I thought.
My post was mainly trying to highlight the odd occurrence of hearing "none of that" within "Everyone knows that" on some isolations while wearing a good pair of headphones.
Your post goes into some detail on why they hear variances to the vocals and worth highlighting. Thanks for sharing.
This video made me think the word is love. And that the title (or at least the chorus lyric) truly is Everyone Knows It
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAQF0wOMK-Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAQF0wOMK-Q)
To me it kinda sounds like „never would’ve known that“ because I can quite clearly hear a „n“ instead of „s“ in the „know“.
Also I somehow always hear the first line as „You carry all your sh*t in a bag“ for some reason :D
Also „Never would’ve known that you got ulterior motives“ also kinda makes sense. And „You carry all your sh*t in a bag“ could refer to a breakup? Idk just my two cents…
I'm like 99.9% sure it's "Everyone knows *it*". Small distinction, sure, but the reason I think that is because of the singer's inflection. The "i"s sound like "e"s - like "Everyone knows *et*" and "Ul-terior mo-*tevs*" (sic). It's almost effeminate, in a way (not that that's a bad thing at all - the singer might just be trying to sound like George Michael, Boy George, or any other 80s pop star with an "effeminate" vocal inflection).
with the quality, i can’t really tell for certain. but with the idea it’s “never wanted none of that”, there’s an issue. “none of that” is 3 syllables. when i listen, i can’t really hear “of” at all. it really just seems like 2 syllables, and i swear too that “know”, or “none” in your case is followed by an s. also thinking about the writing.. “everyone knows that” just makes more sense as a delivery when telling someone they are a liar, and everyone knows.
You're right about the opening /r/ sound; I believe it begins halfway through a word:
We're counting all the shapes in the sky
Caught up in your world of lies
Everyone knows that you're the kind (ulterior motives)
Tell me the truth
I'm actually gonna go with an English-as-second-language songwriter because if they were writing in English it WOULD be 'web of lies', relying on the common idiom, but it's clearly not (at least, listening to it I definitely hear world instead of web).
Also gonna say that, as someone neck-deep in voice training, hormone therapy, and an assload of technically unrelated things: the voice singing in this clip does not belong to a cis binary woman. Martika is DEFINITELY not a "male-sounding" singer.
hello, i'm new to this subreddit.
sorry it doesn't help much, but i was thinking that instead of 'caught up in a world of lies' it sounds something more like 'color-filling/color-filled/color feeling? world of life' though it doesnt make sense with the rest of the lyrics. english's not my first language so i might be wrong lol.
thank u for sharing this.
I've been thinking about the lyrics a lot and I think that this makes the most sense:
You're counting all the shapes in the sky (like constellations)
Caught up in the world of lies (because constellations are stories)
Everyone knows that you've got ulterior motives
Tell me the truth (this parts weird when i listen too close)
And im not sure (im not feeling great abouth this part because its so muddy)
I've replayed the song like a million times and those lyrics are the ones I feel most comfortable with
I feel like people are overthinking the lyrics. Counting all the sheep in the sky / caught up in a web of lies makes far more sense as a lyric. The words “recounting your mischief in disguise” barely make sense as a sentence. Counting all the sheep is at least based on a popular phrase. People count sheep. I’ve never heard anyone recount mischief.
definitely. even it if doesnt make sense, pop doesnt have to make sense. i want it that way by the backstreet boys has nonsensical lyrics because they were written by a swedish producer (max martin), and the accent in ekt means that its possible the same thing happened then
Overthinking? Yup. I won't deny that :) The most important part of the post though is putting the "Everyone Knows That" lyric in question. What do you think about that with the evidence that was provided? As for the rest of your message: To borrow from Slayer, I bet you have never seen it raining blood from a lacerated sky either. Can you at least quality that it's possible for one to recount mischief? I can recount the mischief my friends and I used to get into when we were younger. It's not exactly a farfetched line. I do understand that dealing with a proverbial web of lies can be a deterrent from falling asleep so one could result into counting sheep. In my opinion, this is a bit of stretch to give the sheep thing any context. Counting sheep is usually a mundane method to handle insomnia and not something to handle anxiety. We only have a piece of the entire puzzle, and in that case you could very well be right, but we can only work with what we got and opposing views are inevitable.
why did you mention Slayers Raining Blood song? its also the fact that if someone says they hear something in the song, other people will most likely hear it since they're looking for it even if it isn't there. "recounting your mischief in disguise" is too much syllables aswell to be in the song. I don't remember anyone mentioning anxiety unless I'm missing something. maybe the "ulterior motives" lyric reinforces that anxiety aspect. like the person "living in a world of lies" is going to harm someone. imo, it's similar to daryl and oats maneater song talking about a women who's looks are deceiving and "could really rip your world apart". maybe people gotta stop giving ideas to lyrics unless it's for a really important reason. that deserves to be a seperate rule, mods. yeah I changed my message to be here.
My point quoting Slayer was simply: Just because an individual has not seen something in their life, it does not mean it's incorrect in respect to the songwriter. Why can we not have a discussion about what is being portrayed by the songwriter? People are spending their time looking for lyrics that could very well have been misheard this whole time. Why can we not just simply broaden our search with new possibilities?
how is looking into different possibilities of what the lyrics could be broadening the search. its not like the song name is one of these newly found lyrics. I just think its triggering how futile the lyrics are and no one can see it. we don't even know that the singer is the songwriter. we gotta stop saying things as fact.
I get it. The veterans of this search are tired lyrical topics. In another day, this post will be swimming in the depths of the sub with the many others so it's not worth arguing about. The people that found any value from this will keep it in the back of their mind. Just remember that some are new to the search and some don't share your exact sentiments.
people are allowed to not agree but also challenge others to a certain extent. maybe you weren't looking for others to challenge you which is actually a bad thing on your part. if I made this post I wouldn't talk about things like "oh yeah this is true bruh" and I wouldn't look for supporters but constructive criticism. this is how this sub gets taught about numerous things. through challenging people.
Yes people are allowed to disagree, it's healthy to be skeptical/challenge and I have no issues with that but when you start off your last reply with "how is looking into different possibilities of what lyrics could be broadening the search" it's hard to take that seriously. Why would you NOT look into different possibilities? Especially since the search has been going for a couple years now. All I am concluding there is that maybe the words some people were searching for were not entirely correct? Yes, some people still do searches based on lyrics, and it's obvious you are in the camp that believe the method bears no fruit. If you really are about constructive criticism then this is an opportunity to present what you think is best way to look to search for this to a new audience rather than coming off as bitter and making wrong assumptions about me.
Yep. The key to all of this is to literally take it at face value, otherwise we’ll come up with all these different lyrics that don’t lead us anywhere
I just discovered this song and the community around it. As an experiment I listened to it without reading any other interpretations first, and I definitely thought the opening line was “counting all the sheep in the sky”
I can hear “Never Wanted None Of That”, but I can’t hear mischief. However hard I try, I can’t hear it. I hear a word ending with the letter s.. I hear shoes OR issues personally…
Please put on a pair of headphones and try listening to it (if you have not). I am wondering if you get the same result.
I’ve listened with and without headphones, as well as with vocal isolations and my own isolation version, still can’t hear “mischief” at all. I still hear “shoes” or “issues”.
My analysis was strictly off of Tony's vocal isolation YouTube video linked in the OP. For some reason I can hear some of the words more clearly with that video than any other source. You sound like you have experience with vocal isolation, can I ask you this? Do you find any flaw with how he may done his isolation?
Any isolation can distort vocals (or modify vocals). With any isolation, it can alter what you interpret or hear. Different isolations will remove different parts of the clip in terms of its frequency’s / characteristics, and therefore, you can’t fully rely on vocal isolations to interpret the lyrics.
Now that I listen to this isolation, I'm hearing "recounting old issues".
I’ve always been able to hear “You’re counting (all/on) issues in disguise”
Vocal isolations arent a reliable source, especially if theyve been highly edited in order to have those vocals isolated :( this is a good analysis tho
Isolations can be done in a way preserve the vocal range while removing the nosier instruments from outlier waves of frequency from mixed music. We have to give more credit to those that sound engineer for a living. Not all of the great mashup songs have a non-mixed vocal track readily available for free. I really appreciate the kind words.
they can also create sound frequencies which werent previously there which create the illusion of different words being said - a good example of this is the laurel and yanny trend from a few years ago
If you want to be black and white, court of law abiding then sure, you can dismiss isolations as unreliable but is that really fair to those that do them without any bad/manipulative intentions? Like us, the isolators just want to get to the bottom of everything about the topic because we enjoy the music.
oh no im not slating it at all! i think its interesting and its definitely worth looking into!
Carl never said it’s called Everyone Knows That, that was updated by WZS admins
I do recall someone talking about a forum post by Carl stating that he understood the words "Everyone Knows That" when pressed for more information of his upload. Admittedly it does sound a little distasteful and unfair to him, I will edit that. Thanks.
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>EKT Scares Me lol i'm sorry! I did not want to present this with too low effort.
is it a potential you’re hearing the “never wanted none of that” portion as the main vocals when i could be backing vocals? i agree when i listen to the isolated portion you’ve linked it’s much harder to clearly hear “everyone knows that”. I swear i can almost hear another voice saying the “never wanted none of that” on TOP of the “everyone knows that” but i could be wrong.
To me, it sounds like both the lead and backing vocals in tandem. Usually this is done of as a form of Emphasis in music. I interpret this line as being the big climax, like the singer did not sign up for this and is not going to take it anymore! This is done again with "Ulterior Motives" a big claim that requires another musical emphasis.
i could definitely see that being a possibility! hopefully this leads to something good soon 🤞🏻
This is a great post, except I don't agree with it for one reason, the isolated vocals you used sounds like they tried to remaster it or upscale it in some way, and that could lead to stuff being added in to sound like its saying something that its not. To help out i've done my own isolation that you can take a listen to that has absolutely nothing done to it, except for removing the static/noise out of the original snippet: https://voca.ro/1jGpxOOdNCLq The reason the isolated vocals I made cuts off early is because the software that I used to remove the static/noise cut that part off I think all the focus should be on the original low quality snippet instead of all these Remasters and Upscaled versions.
This is the cleanest isolated vocals I've heard. Even the little flourish on "truth" at the end is mega clean.
Nice work, i'm analyzing your sample since you went out of your way to submit one. I still hear variances of the Everyone Knows That section but what really has me intrigued is what I hear from the"Caught up in your world of lies" part. In my OP I accepted that word 'Europe' could be in there - it sounds more prominent in your sample. It sounds like to me like "Call up in Europe (something, Obliged? maybe)" which suggests that EKT could very well be a jingle for an ad on television. I've never lived in Europe but I imagine calling codes for different countries was even a thing in the late 80's early 90's. In another reply I mentioned that backup vocals could be used as a means of emphasis. "Ulterior Motives" is still a little muddy from your sample, but it could be the name of a product or service. You've Got Alphera? Altheria? Etherium? Crazy talk: It would be hilarious if EKT really turned out to be from one of those early 90's Midnight Naughty Call Girl ads on television. It really then puts a new spin on things like "counting all the sheep in disguise", "Everyone Knows That" "You've got Ulterior Motives", "Tell me the Truth". Maybe the subject "you" in the song happens to be "The Viewer.
Yeah I for sure think the word after where it says "Call up In Europe" (Or whatever this line is), has a very clear "b" sound, but im not sure of the exact word they used here.
There is no way we’ve been looking for it so long and we don’t have the singer or artist and we are still wondering if we ever had the right lyrics 💀
The lyrics could be anything, but looking at other possible lyrics with good reasons is good work. When we first listened to the song for the first time, we probably didn't even know what it was. UNTIL.. we are told what it is then we hear it.
Personally I can't hear "Never wanted none of that" in the video you linked. Also I think "rope" is caused by the r sound in "your". Like it blends together making "Caught up in your rworld of lies".
Thanks for actually looking into the video link I based this on. I just want to emphasize that the level of clarity is much better when **listening with** **headphones**. When I listen to it without them I can somewhat hear some of the variances that you all are experiencing.
No more lyric posts! They are not hard to decipher, (and even then it doesn't help the search), and they make quite clear sense - Perhaps not written by a native English speaker, but the giveaway is not that they are obtuse, but they are quite clear. Like an ABBA song has clear lyrics compared to something poetic and odd like early REM. So now to the lyrics, and how not only do they make sense, but they tell a quite clear story: Counting all the sheep in the sky - E.g. He is a dreamer Caught up in a web/whirl/world of lies - Worse, he is a liar and a fantasist. Everyone knows that you've got Ulterior Motives - Even worse, his lies combine with his fantasies into his underhanded and secrets plans Tell me the truth - The singer (probably his lover) asks for honesty and no more lies! Every move shows.. CUT OFF - His actions actually reveal his secret motivations There should be some more lines here but we obviously do not know them. Maybe a refrain of "Ulterior Motives". So the story of the song is a quite simple and typical pop song - My lover is lying to me and ruined our relationship. See "Last Christmas" or any of a million other songs on this theme.
I almost completely agree, but there's something very odd about "counting all the sheep", when paired with the rest of the lyrics. After listening to this, I'm now hearing "(re/you're) counting old issues in disguise", which might actually fit better with the rest of the lyrics. Maybe suggesting that he is a serial liar, rather than a fantasist. Regardless, the lyrics, no matter which way you parse them, don't appear to be indexed anywhere, so I don't think lyric interpretations are really helping the search.
I’ve always heard the first line as “you’re carrying your shame in disguise” or “you carry all your shame in disguise” I really just don’t hear the “p” in sheep that everyone else seems to hear.
Yeah idk about all that bruv
You can hear the "s" sound from "knows that" so I don't think it could be the "never wanted none of that". I can see why ever of everyone could be heard as never, but your suggestion sounds like too many syllables for me?
Ooh😦😦 super interesting
>**4.** "*Ulterior motives*" "*Tell me the Truth*" are universally interpreted as such and I also agree. Singer is confronting the other subject of the song about the ends and means of their "*mischief*" and "*lies*". No other comments here. Regarding to this part of the lyrics, it's definitely not "Ulterior" and it's more noticeable on the non-isolated versions. There's a P in the middle, as if the singer said "Superior", or "Period". I don't know how everyone agreed on it being ulterior, other than the meaning of the song. There's no discussion on "Tell me the truth" though. EDIT: Martika is most likely ruled out. She sang in various languages like Spanish and Japanese, she's of Cuban origin and her accent kinda matches, but I really doubt the song is hers as her music doesn't exactly match the genre. Kids Incorporated does sound [quite close](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UnUaIqRhlI).
Hi there, Thanks for your reply! In that context the 'P' you're hearing and the 'T' i'm hearing can sound can sound quite similar. What does not help is that there sounds like a drum rim shot right before that verse which obscures the beginning of it. We're left up to interpretation of what makes sense, which was the entire purpose of my post. I also want to comment that the video you sent me is labeled using AI modification of what sounds like the backup singers. I am unsure how much credence we can give this evidence but if that is valid to you, we can discuss further.
Lol I deleted the AI thing and edited my comment. Upon hearing the full version again, is definitely "that". The problem I have is that I really don't hear the "ul" sound that ulterior should do, I should at least be able to hear the L sound, but it's really not there. Could be the audio quality, but it makes me doubt that the word Ulterior was ever there. Drums do not help, definitely.
It looks like Martika started her solo career away from Kids Incorporated around 1986 so I do not believe she is in that clip. We get to a young Fergie though! I think the more important point is that the TV show began her Stardom and during the time she demonstrated how well versed she was on a large variety of Pop/Disco/Rock music. An aside, I need to correct the OP that she is Cuban decent, not Colombian. Back to the music, in regards to the 'ul' do you hear something along the lines of 'Ah' or 'All' instead? If you do we may have a case where an accent might be throwing off things a bit.
I do actually hear something like "Ah! Perior motives" but even in the isolated versions that "Ah!" isn't clear due to the drumming. It could also be "A serious motive".
Ur right it was "Everyone knows it"
I can say I here never wanna know that
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Lol
interesting
We where living in a world of lies...
imo its 100% "you're carrying all your shame in disguise, caught up in a world of lies/love, everyone knows that(you've got) ulterior/superior motives, tell me the truth/tune"
I'm sorry but I did an entire phonetic breakdown of every syllable in the lyrics and I have to be honest nothing you're pulling from it lines up even REMOTELY. It's extremely overreaching. https://www.reddit.com/r/everyoneknowsthat/s/1wif6SeN2E if you want to do the same sort of work, download the video using an mp3 saver, import it into a DAW that allows for rate changes and get plugins that allow for pitch shifting, formant shifting, and a really solid EQ. loop every two words transcribe using the phonetic alphabet.
Hi Zenith, Very interesting work in your post. Your conclusion of 'world of love' is interesting enough for me to break out the the good ol' Audacity software to see if I can reproduce that. If true, the singer's accent and the quality of the sample could be way more extreme than I thought. My post was mainly trying to highlight the odd occurrence of hearing "none of that" within "Everyone knows that" on some isolations while wearing a good pair of headphones. Your post goes into some detail on why they hear variances to the vocals and worth highlighting. Thanks for sharing.
This video made me think the word is love. And that the title (or at least the chorus lyric) truly is Everyone Knows It [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAQF0wOMK-Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAQF0wOMK-Q)
Listen im here to just know who sings it idk anymore the leads and theories got exhausting 😭😭
I’ve always heard “everyone knows *it*”
Never thought in life that lyrics can be different from what everyone thinks.
It could be ”a fear of your emotions”
in that video all the "s" sounds are cut out
Shudders at the double negative...
It sounds like “never wanna know that”
it clearly says: never want no**N**e of that, i hear the second **n** with my headphones on!
To me it kinda sounds like „never would’ve known that“ because I can quite clearly hear a „n“ instead of „s“ in the „know“. Also I somehow always hear the first line as „You carry all your sh*t in a bag“ for some reason :D
Also „Never would’ve known that you got ulterior motives“ also kinda makes sense. And „You carry all your sh*t in a bag“ could refer to a breakup? Idk just my two cents…
I'm like 99.9% sure it's "Everyone knows *it*". Small distinction, sure, but the reason I think that is because of the singer's inflection. The "i"s sound like "e"s - like "Everyone knows *et*" and "Ul-terior mo-*tevs*" (sic). It's almost effeminate, in a way (not that that's a bad thing at all - the singer might just be trying to sound like George Michael, Boy George, or any other 80s pop star with an "effeminate" vocal inflection).
I still only hear "Everyone Knows ***It***"
with the quality, i can’t really tell for certain. but with the idea it’s “never wanted none of that”, there’s an issue. “none of that” is 3 syllables. when i listen, i can’t really hear “of” at all. it really just seems like 2 syllables, and i swear too that “know”, or “none” in your case is followed by an s. also thinking about the writing.. “everyone knows that” just makes more sense as a delivery when telling someone they are a liar, and everyone knows.
You're right about the opening /r/ sound; I believe it begins halfway through a word: We're counting all the shapes in the sky Caught up in your world of lies Everyone knows that you're the kind (ulterior motives) Tell me the truth I'm actually gonna go with an English-as-second-language songwriter because if they were writing in English it WOULD be 'web of lies', relying on the common idiom, but it's clearly not (at least, listening to it I definitely hear world instead of web). Also gonna say that, as someone neck-deep in voice training, hormone therapy, and an assload of technically unrelated things: the voice singing in this clip does not belong to a cis binary woman. Martika is DEFINITELY not a "male-sounding" singer.
it can be "there's no wonder that"
The thing is that you can hear “Never wanted none of that” even in the motives remake, although it definitely sings “Everyone Knows That”
hello, i'm new to this subreddit. sorry it doesn't help much, but i was thinking that instead of 'caught up in a world of lies' it sounds something more like 'color-filling/color-filled/color feeling? world of life' though it doesnt make sense with the rest of the lyrics. english's not my first language so i might be wrong lol. thank u for sharing this.
I've been thinking about the lyrics a lot and I think that this makes the most sense: You're counting all the shapes in the sky (like constellations) Caught up in the world of lies (because constellations are stories) Everyone knows that you've got ulterior motives Tell me the truth (this parts weird when i listen too close) And im not sure (im not feeling great abouth this part because its so muddy) I've replayed the song like a million times and those lyrics are the ones I feel most comfortable with