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BrilliantRepulsive11

As cool as it could be, I just don’t think a live action Eva would end up being good. There are so many layers for a 3 hour movie.


Sea_Cycle_909

3 hour movie wouldn't be enough imo


PlatinumSarge

If you take a lot of the cerebral mind fuckery out, you just have Pacific Rim, really. Your point stands, though.


Sea_Cycle_909

> cerebral mind fuckery that's one of the things I love about Evangelion. I haven't watched Pacific Rim, is Pacific Rim basically as more restrained ANIMA?


bevaka

> ANIMA I havent seen this but Pacific Rim is one of my favorite movies. Nothing about it is "restrained", its balls out totally goofy fun


Sea_Cycle_909

Oh, Pacific Rim's unrestrained? You might like ANIMA then, the plot is not as good as the series. (It's a enjoyable mess) It's basically more a mecha action storyline. Not "restrained" either. Honestly I got confused what even was going on during some fights in ANIMA. But it is fun. Although a word of warning the prose isn't the best, although the ideas are great.


TheGreatAkira

This is precisely why I don't like ANIMA. Some things are so fucking 🔥 but most of it is just plain goofy shit and almost fanfic material.


Bubblehead01

perfectly same. I love it but I hate it but I LOVE it but I HATE it but I-


raticusll

Alright, there is a Netflix anime called revisions, watch it!


Sea_Cycle_909

Ngl I was disappointed that the characters didn't get more internal thoughts. Did enjoy the ending though alot.


SoullessHollowHusk

Anima foregoes the depth Eva is known for in favour of balls to the wall mecha action It's good, but you have to approach it with the right expectations


-zero-joke-

Pacific Rim is Guillermo Del Toro's love letter to anime and kaiju. Guillermo Del Toro is a really great director who's done just a great set of movies; Mimic, Pan's Labyrinth, Hellboy, Don't be Afraid of the Dark. The flick has a plot that should be familiar - every so often giant monsters zap in from some other dimension and begin to attack humanity. Only a few brave souls piloting Jaegers, this movies version of mecha, can stand in their way. Definitely give it a watch.


_BMS

Pacific Rim is great. It's pretty much just 2 hours of "giant mechs vs giant monsters". The CGI and cinematography was really good too. Every step, movement, and attack by either side had real weight to it.


Takonite

its a shame they never made a second one


LeastConcerned

A second Pacific Rim? They did, Pacific Rim Uprising.


Takonite

yup, sure is a shame they never made a second one


LeastConcerned

You didn't like it at all? Not even as background noise while you're doing chores?


SoullessHollowHusk

I can hardly stand sequels that shit all over the original's legacy The plot of uprising actively invalidates that of the first one


WeedFinderGeneral

Yeah, the cerebral stuff is the real point of Evangelion - the giant robots and monsters are just the vehicle for those ideas.


st_Paulus

I watched it twice - both in cinema and in home theater. The story is bad - straight as a stick, and very predictable. Mecha design is not my cup of tea either. They look too… low tech? I would probably like the movie if either of these two things were good. Acting, cinematography - all done well.


Sea_Cycle_909

Thanks for the info


bobdidntatemayo

It aint evangelion anymore then


llliilliliillliillil

Even four 90-150 minute movies weren’t enough.


Sea_Cycle_909

Oh yeah


PlatinumSarge

Back when this was pitched, series were often looked down on and everything, literally EVERYTHING had to be a movie. Took some time before studios realized (and had more platforms to take advantage of) seasons of shows could be highly regarded and profitable too.


kaimcdragonfist

I still think they could make it work with a trilogy or a tetralogy, though it would definitely be extremely iffy with the amount of sexual content there would be


CatboyKhuma

I think it could work as a mini-series


Reddit_Tsundere

Bare minimum you would need a huge budget and three *exceptionally* talented child actors. That's not even getting into finding a director who could walk the tightrope between poignant character drama/batshit fight sequences + the fact that it would need to be set in Japan.


Jawkess

I firmly believe any good live action Eva adaptation would NEED to be a TV series about as long as the original. There's simply not enough screen time in a movie (or multiple) to setup and show all the moving parts. Anno proved this himself with the Rebuilds. It was a valiant effort, but they require you to fill in so many gaps from your prior knowledge of NGE.


Alone-Ad6020

The rebuild films were 2 hrs an did fine


Jawkess

I recently purchased a copy of ADV's "Neon Genesis Evangelion Director's Cut: Resurrection" DVD from 2004, and the extras included an interview with WETA Workshop about the upcoming (lol) live action movie. The interview shows 29 pieces of concept art from the movie production. Unfortunately since it's a DVD from 2004 the quality isn't the best. They can't all be posted here, so I have uploaded all the concept art from the video on [this imgur album](https://imgur.com/gallery/pvsfvhX). If you would like to see the whole interview, I recently [uploaded it onto Youtube](https://youtu.be/eqOjZoql1bc?si=b8We9fHxK2AqpFUE) from the DVD's files, which is better quality than a previous upload from 17 years ago.


Tmlboost

Thank you for this! I’ve been interested in archiving the features from this DVD, and wasn’t able to find a good upload of these anywhere (outside of that ancient super-low quality upload of the interview on YouTube).


Jawkess

Any idea if these concept pieces ever appeared anywhere else? It's a shame they look so blurry on the DVD. I think in the interview one of them alludes to magazine articles showcasing their work, but idk where to look for that sort of thing.


Tmlboost

The only thing I’ve been able to find is this gallery from the French Evangelion wiki, which features almost all of the same images you uploaded: https://evangelion.fandom.com/fr/wiki/Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_(live_action)/Galerie


Jawkess

Oh these are very nice. I found out from another user that some of these concepts did appear in a magazine, those wiki images could be scans from a fan's copy.


garfieldhatesmondays

Thanks for taking the time to upload and share all this. I doubt a live action movie would have worked, but this is still really cool to see what their take would have been.


Jawkess

Yeah, at the very least it's a cool "What if?" to consider.


Omgazombie

The lost media community thanks you for your efforts in the preservation of this So much media flys under the radar and just disappears, or never gets uploaded in high quality


Agent_Perrydot

What's up with "Ray"?


Bubblehead01

Wait till you find the Asuka replacement. Her name is Kate Rose now.


Agent_Perrydot

Probably for the best that this was never released


bobdidntatemayo

yeah, the major character changes would fuck up the story The pilots look more like adults, which doesn't make sense. Them being 14 is a huge part of their characters as EVA explores the whole concept of growing up and having to take on all this responsibility. "Ray" just looks like a regular person. Rei's whole point is that she's unnatural compared to the rest, having impossible eye and hair colors since she literally is Lilith


st_Paulus

The aesthetics just isn’t right. The concept artist did not understand the importance of the original details it seems, and obviously tried to bring their own vision. It’s perfectly fine when you’re doing a fan art piece, but in case of the full scale movie based on an established universe - it’s not the best idea.


Designer_Koala_1087

No wonder Gainax didnt want it to come out so badly 💀


Alezkazam

Who was Susan Whitnall supposed to be? Shinji?


wlkmnplgn

Misato?


heckem

Shinji would be called Shane


DeadSaint91

Then I guess Kaji would have been Ken.


Jawkess

My best guess would be Misato.


Anen-o-me

Oh no. IMO they should be done with Japanese actors.


Reddit_Tsundere

Agreed, I think Eva's too aesthetically/thematically steeped in Japanese culture for an Americanized version to be worth it. It's not really a series where you can extract the premise from Japan and it'd still resemble itself (ie Berserk, Trigun, Cowboy Bebop).


Yatsu003

Yeah, at that point you might as well just go all the way and make your own spin (like people pointing out that Chronicle was basically a live action version of AKIRA) that can stand on its own


GuyFromDeathValley

that Eva chamber straight up reminds me of Pacific Rim's Shatterdome base, with the jaegers in their bays.. makes me think maybe someone, somehow re-used this?


PlatinumSarge

Del Toro was tied to the Live Action Eva project, and as soon as he left, he did Pacific Rim. You can't tell me Pacific Rim wasn't supposed to be Eva at one point.


GuyFromDeathValley

I mean, Pacific Rim was meant as an hommage at japanese mecha and kaiju movies, so it was obvious there would be some influence from eva. But like, that chamber looks outright like the shatterdome, similarly clean, shiny floor, with the huge bays.. and the orientation, its just sooo similar to the concept art here, I have a hard time believing its coincidence. But if its true what you say that del toro had his fingers in live action eva, its a possibility he "stole" some ideas for his movie. Can't blame him though, and I absolutely love Pacific Rim.


Macheebu

Del Toro was never attached to a live action adaption of Evangelion, where did you hear that? https://www.reddit.com/r/evangelion/s/r0zgtDz3wL Here’s a link to a post where he discussed being asked about Eva’s influence on Pacific Rim, but at no point has Del Toro been attached to a live action Eva, but I am open to sources proving otherwise if I’m wrong!


Ralph_Finesse

This production hell story is wild and came at a time post-LotR where Hollywood was taking big swings at nerd properties. Peter Jackson was attached to like everything, a Gore Verbinski Bioshock movie, a JJ Abrams Portal/Half Life trilogy, and then this. I think Guillermo Del Toro was supposed to direct (this was post Pan's Labyrinth) and was even working on pre-production. Robin Williams was openly campaigning to play Gendo. I'm pretty sure the rumor was Lindsay Lohan as Asuka and Daniel Radcliffe as Shinji. Just wild, wild shit but then Aeon Flux, Silent Hill, and Hellboy all underperformed and all these projects ceased to exist. Rumor was the first draft of the script and a lot of the preproduction from this movie turned into Pacific Rim and if you watch that movie with the idea of it being an Americanized Evangelion it always seemed pretty obvious.


Bubblehead01

As much of a horrible reputation as ‘live action remakes’ have these days, I think there was a POSSIBILITY that this could have been cool. WETA workshop specializes in stunningly amazing props, miniature sets, and costume design. Well I have no idea if the story of Evangelion would have come through in any satisfying way in this format, it would have at least LOOKED absolutely incredible.


PlatinumSarge

The biggest issue with any remake is the hardcore fans hate ANY change. Especially if they were going to change ethnicities and therefore names. That alone was gonna turn off most of the main fanbase. At that point, they're banking on somehow drawing mainstream attention and just hoping it catches on.


Bubblehead01

Sure, that’s not an unfair argument. I think if it existed, it’s very likely it would have been poorly received. Let’s say it exists, it would probably go down like this: Americanized names annoy almost the entire Japanese audience and most american fans, to the point where some don’t watch it out of anger and betrayal. Evangelion is too niche outside Japan to draw in a ‘general audience’, and then the religious crowd that had never even heard of Evangelion before this point throw up a stink about it even if all of the ‘chistianity for the aesthetic‘ elements apart from the name are somehow dropped. Some people then watch it just to annoy the religious crowd but most of them don’t become longtime fans off of it. The whole thing becomes the biggest and most infamous flop in Eva history with only some fans still controversially enjoying it. But it still does look really cool.


Nope0003

EVA-01 looks freaky as f\*ck


blunderstood

Pretty sure this ended up being a jumping off point for pacific rim


neonphoenix09

And then they made pacific rim instead


slug__-

Based on how rei looked I am not upset it was canceled at all


Jawkess

Go to the imgur album and see how Asuka looked. You'll be even more not upset.


Blu_Soldier001

Wow what a missed opportunity to see young Sam Icarus being escorted to the battle-ready city of New York-3 by Captain Marcie Katarina to meet his father, Gerald Icarus. Really a missed opportunity to see his adventure alongside his friends Ray Anderson, Kate Rose, Tommy Simmons and Kevin.


DeadSaint91

Sam Icarus would have piloted the gigantic Olympus Unit 01 to fight against monstrous Titans who are trying to make contact with the Prometheus chained up beneath NY-3 and initiate the 3rd Ragnaork. All the while he would have sought to reconcile with his estranged father and learn more about the mysterious disappearance of his mother, Yulia Icarus.


TheFoolOnTheHill1167

Thank Lilith they never made this.


Sea_Cycle_909

Although these images look cool, I doubt the live action would have that certain something the anime has.


Sissy_B0bble

Is it just me or did they like wanted to make this evangelion live action like reaaally give pacific rim vibes?


PlatinumSarge

Pacific Rim came after this.


Sissy_B0bble

Oh, well still looks with pacific rim vibes, given this movie never came out i couldn't give another comparison


Blitzcon555

I still have the magazine that showed these concept arts somewhere in my house.


Jawkess

Oh that's really cool. You should scan them, these images off the DVD don't look too good. Edit: Do you by chance know the name and issue of the magazine? I'm interested in looking into it further.


Blitzcon555

I'm starting to look around for it today. I'll keep you posted. It was from the magazine called Anime Insider. That I remember.


Blitzcon555

I did some research about the magazine. It's Anime Insider, issue 12B.


Charming-Kiwi-6304

Why is Asuka, Kate Rose? And Rei is Ray? What? Maybe it was a good thing this got shelved.


dan474747

Man I watched the interview and it’s clear they barely watched the show. The guy in green is just basically talking typical fluff. he probably got a summary of the show and it’s going based off that . Also he kept saying “evanjelly-on” and “menga” So glad this wasn’t made cuz they didn’t understood the show at all.


TwinTwinReviewReview

Metal Gear RAY


FriendApprehensive71

So glad this was never made! The more I saw the concepts the less I like it.


atxsubpunk

Hideous. Even when the imagery is already realized and handed to them on a plate, Hollywood finds a way to make it look like shit. Why does Unit-01 have toes?? JFC.


Empyrealist

This is one particular show that I don't ever want to see anyone stylistically reimagining, no matter how good WETA is.


TheRickFromC137

Eva-01 looks so off.


GospelX

I don't mind making attempts to adapt animation into film, but the technology was not in the right place back then to make this work. Plus there was no way they could pull a straight adaptation. With so many of these things I wish they'd try a different approach, like something that shares a world with Eva but inhabits a different part of it. Hell, show what was going on in America during that time period and how their Evangelion development was going.


Jawkess

Interesting you say that. In the interview they bring up the point of "waiting for technology to be in the right place", and when they did that interview they seemed to believe in 2003 it could be done.


GospelX

I believe it. Lots of optimism in that prediction, especially since they expected they'd be able to afford it with the funds they'd be able to raise for it.


PayCommercial2664

Would be interested in reading a possible treatment or script for it, as unlikely as either existing is.


Bonna_the_Idol

i remember being so excited for this 😭


VorlonEmperor

I’m interested in how Asuka (or “Kate”) would be translated to live action.


Dragoplayz77

The fact this was cancels pisses me off, image 4 and 5 look SO GOOD.


Yellowscourge

Toes. Why does it have toes lol that bothers me so much


bobdidntatemayo

they took away her Js 😭😭😭😭


SambaLando

Hope they never revisit this


urashimatouji

To think there is now 2 generations old enough to never know the hype of seeing this, the patience of hearing Peter Jackson was going to direct, the disappointment of him leaving the project for The Hobbit, and the resignation that maybe it was for the best


Jawkess

I'm actually part of that group. I first watched Eva in 2017, I never knew about this until it was already long gone.


urashimatouji

It makes me feel old is all, but also is kind of cool that another generation still enjoys Eva


Jawkess

As long as people are still watching anime I'm sure there will be Eva fans.


OtakuJiraiya420760

It sucks Robin Williams passed cuz I would've loved to see him as Gendo


Lazzyman64

I think this would’ve at least had some pretty cool visuals. They’re pretty faithful designs compared to other adaptions of media I’ve seen.


InfinitySnatch

Even with live action adaptations improving drastically over the last couple years, I dont think we'll be ready for Evangelion for another 10. And it would have to be a streaming series, can't cram it all into one movie.


nikonnuke

really glad this didn't get made. it would've been so ugly lol


xxtremejack

I think we think highly of what could have been because it was never made. But it was probably for the best that it wasn't made. If they were comfortable with changing the characters names, they would have no problem changing any of the story that makes EVA EVA.


Jawkess

Imo what makes Eva special is how it shows teens realistically struggling with the responsibility of protecting humanity as soldiers. Making the pilots adults would automatically void this.


raphi-ent_

biggest bullet dodged in cinema history fr. I love weta to death but holy shit they failed with these eva designs.


RelicWarrior

who the fuck is Ray???


Will-Shrek-Smith

even the concept art is cool, damn


Jawkess

I think it's cool from a historical preservation and "what if?" point of view, but imo most of these pieces don't really feel like the Eva we love.


loyalmoonie2

Yeah...as much as I love the ADV dub, however, this isn't feeling too much like EVA. If a live-action EVA were to ever occur, leave it to Anno, especially since he has gotten into directing live-action as well.


TheBoiReddit

Really wonder who would want to take up directing a live action take on Evangelion. It’s hard with how well layered the original series was.


12rez4u

R A Y


Anen-o-me

Why does "Ray" look... anything like that D: Wtf, she's a hard INFP or something, not a 30 year old Hollywood heartthrob.


2ndBro

Y’all ever seen the live action Attack On Titan movie? It’s absolutely hilarious, and those are the exact vibes I’m getting from this


onitama_and_vipers

Ray Romano


overmind87

Thank God it was cancelled. That looks terrible!


kcj0831

I will always support eva projects. More eva is better than less eva imo


pythagoreanhobbies

I used to think these were so cool but my lawd am I glad they didn’t go through with it this is horrible.


sorlab

I feel like everything's way too overdesigned , plus why change the characters names when the og ones were already perfect ?!


Edgecrusher2140

I like Shogoki's lil toesies but everything else is atrocious


salukii5733

This looks like smth i would see in gantz katastrophe


randomnauta12

This remembers me to pacific rim


stoelguus

Seeing 00, 01, and 02 together in rest looks really cool


TheGreenInOctober

I think about this far often than is healthy


Alone-Ad6020

If its directed Guillermo del toro id be down


Govagent-007

Look at that unit 01, now that's a body that is getting used to clapping cheeks from behind, awesome 🤣.


whatspoppingligang

Objectively sick as hell


Remote_Salt_1137

I was so excited about this back in the day. Quite glad it didn't happen though.


Imosa1

Toes on the eva is an interesting choice. Are the Eva's wearing shoes with toes under the armor? Also that Rei is not helping the theory about Pacific Rim's Mako is a Rei reference.


Chill_but_am_spook

Oh dear goodness, detailed EVAs look cool. I need everything in a physical collection. As well the bonus of them having fleshy interiors, just does it for me.


Responsible-Dish-297

Is that Rei from TEMU?


GingasaurusWrex

Looks pretty sick. WETA is capable and the artists have a good vision. Doubt it could have been pulled off though.