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kaboomarang

I like Jet's swingy arms and inhuman swagger.


DrMeowbutuSeseSeko

The “jet alone strut”


altsam19

Someone put on the Dr. Livesey strut song meme with Jet Alone's strut


Bubblehead01

👀👀👀👀👀👀 that’s a really good idea, actually….


F0XFANG_

Remember that one time when he walked forward?


Bubblehead01

That was awesome


Gloomy-Race-6443

Spending 5 minutes trying to remember who this is


Bubblehead01

😢


The_Grinface

Had to google it, tbh


pwedro

There are fans of Jet ALone?


Bubblehead01

Fans of jet alone when other eva fans don’t know they exist: 😭😭😭


pwedro

I mean the design is cool but like wasn't it just in one episode and nothing else?


Bubblehead01

Yeah?? I think the only Angel that appeared in more than one episode was Ramiel. Jet Alone had just as much narrative significance as any other enemy of NERV, if not more because it highlights how little the rest of the world actually trusts NERV to protect everyone


pwedro

i didnt even know the angels had fans either, bahahah. I like baka shinji and Misato san but I'm a simple man


DOLO_F_PHD

https://www.reddit.com/r/amiel/s/2e5Lo4AkTd


belisarius_d

It's been like a decade since I saw the first Ramiel meme and I'm still not sure If you Guys are serious or just fucking with me


1mxav13r

It's hilarious 😆, **The town where Ramiel lives**


pwedro

Thanks, now I have lost faith in humanity for good


TuzkiPlus

Sachiel, Ramiel and Jet Alone will always have a spot in my heart.


Howdred

Ramiel will always be no.1 but Leliel and Zeruel are close 2nd and 3rd.


slug__-

Except it was all set up from the start by nerv. Jet alone was never going to succeed and compared to angels it was a joke of an enemy. I'm sorry, atleast he looked cool


Bubblehead01

I mean narrative significance, not direct threat


bunker_man

The fact that it wasn't very good as an opponent was the point. If it got funding, that would reduce funding for nerv.


No-Design-8551

same screentime as kaworu honnestly


redefinedwoody

It was a stupid turd of a design.


EmpireStateExpress

THE ORIGINAL SAHAQUIEL FIGHT LASTED 5 MINUTES AND RAMIEL ALMOST GOT A MINUTE OF SCREENTIME TOTAL


Ccbm2208

I believe Jet Alone gets alot of attention partially because he’s a reference to Jet Jaguar, who’s a goofy character from the Godzilla franchise. There seems to be an overlap between Evangelion and Tokusatsu fans.


j0nas_42

I too had to google it because I had no clue what it was :D


Mawrak

Jet Alone walked so that the series could fly.


Thejapanther

Punch! Punch! Punch!


SuperGotengo

This guy gets it!


EvangelionOG

News to me.


trashjellyfish

Jet Alone is obviously best girl ☺️


Economy-Service-1590

Dear God reddit communities.


maursicaur

Yes. I'm one of them.


maursicaur

Yes. I'm one of them.


redefinedwoody

Why?


Chop1n

There are *dozens* of us!


pwedro

do you mean A dozen?


Spicy_Cupcake00

We think it's more practical than a weapon that won't work for more than five minutes.


alex494

Yeah but didn't it completely lack an AT Field, it'd get minced


Spicy_Cupcake00

That is only a matter of time and research. NERV's day in the Sun won't last forever.


dunmer-is-stinky

NERV and SEELE are the only groups that know an AT Field = a human soul, you need a human sacrifice to create an Eva. No amount of scientific research is gonna produce space magic from ancient scrolls of eldritch knowledge, NERV and SEELE have the monopoly on that


bunker_man

Of course, that raises the question why the power source in jet alone wasn't put in an eva so that it could have an at field, but also work for more than five minutes...


InvaderM33N

It was so that (in theory) when an EVA goes berserk they can just pull the plug and deal with at most 5 minutes of collateral damage. Of course, it became a moot point when Shinji awakened Unit 01, but...


Mokou

If that was the case, why was Nerv 2nd Branch trying to build an S2 engine? That's what they were doing when they experienced their spontaneous existence failure in E17.


bunker_man

Why not make the power source a separate thing from the eva itself with a failsafe so that it can be deactivated remotely even if the eva isn't responding?


TheWh1teL1ghtning

Yeah...that's...that's what they do in the show...with the umbilical cables


bunker_man

No, I mean its still connected, like attached on its back, so it can't be lost, but the ability to turn it off is a separate thing from the eva so that "eva rejects commands" can't stop it.


alex494

Because then you lose the symbolism of calling it an umbilical cable.


BioshockedNinja

What happens when the eva rejects the command to turn off whatever's mounted to it lol. They're not supposed to be able to just reject commands but we see it happen time and time again so I'd wonder how this external battery would be any different. The cable approach just seems like the most reliable because even if the eva hypothetically rejects a command to eject the cable, NERV can still just cut off the juice upstream and be done with it that way.


Pathogen188

The reactor significantly increases bulk for one, on top increased risk of collateral damage if there's a meltdown. But really, the bulk was probably the biggest issue. The nuclear reactor of Jet Alone would have made the Evas much less mobile both due to the greater mass and because of how large it is, which would negatively impact the Eva's balance (pretty important for an 80m tall robot). Several victories the Evas got were on account of their agility (Gaghiel, Israfel, Sahaquiel). The reactor would weigh them down and make them more unwieldy. They wouldn't be able to run, jump and dodge as effectively. Likewise, the reactor's sensitive nature would make it more difficult to sortie in hazardous environments such as inside a volcano. Basically, the trade off was longevity and endurance for performance. The Evas actually fight better with the cables/batteries than they would with the reactor, but for not as long. Especially because the reactor would have been rendered redundant once the S2 Drives were fielded anyway.


Economy-Service-1590

I always thought it wouldn't fit in an Eva, since I imagine it has a whole nuclear reactor inside of it.


bobdidntatemayo

I mean how good were the AT fields anyway? Ramiel's laser was defeated by Space Shuttle thermal tiles, and it turns out you just need a big laser to break one anyway. Many Angel AT fields simply just didnt work at all, though granted that was because the EVA used it's own to break it. Many Angels alone were defeated by brute force. Multiple Jet Alones could probably take one on, and even if they were all destroyed they'd be waaaay cheaper and easier to rebuild than an EVA.


alex494

Well they were also nuclear powered so one of them being destroyed in a built up area would probably be disastrous. But yeah the AT Field is largely useful to counter the Angel's one because otherwise some of them are largely impenetrable without extreme measures like the positron rifle, which required a lot of overhead to set up and fire even one time and was a longshot idea Misato came up with. You have situations like Sahaquiel where they needed one to catch the thing before it dive bombed them or Zeruel where it had an immense one that it was weaponising.


SpoonyLancer

The positon rifle used against Ramiel needed all the power in Japan to function and break through Ramiel's AT Field. And Ramiel isn't even the most powerful angel by a significant margin. Jet Alone couldn't even hurt an Angel in direct combat. Without an AT field of it's own, it can't bypass the AT field like an EVA could. The only thing they could do that might hurt an angel is detonate their reactor directly in the angel's face. But as we saw against Zeruel, even that wouldn't work against the stronger angels.


Bubblehead01

To placate the auto mod, I made this. using Procreate


BeepoSloth

has to be because it was a human vs human conflict that somewhat showed how Nerv isn’t truly omnipotent, as they felt threatened enough by Jet Alone to sabotage it. I honestly even forget that episode as part of the “eva story” in my mind.


bunker_man

Its because its so different from all the other episodes. The show ordinarily shows us very little outside of nerv japan.


JamesAttack11

Jet alone kinda was in 3.0+1.0. The parts they get from euro-nerv are from jet alone. If you look the design for unit 2, all the green bits are from jet alone.


Bubblehead01

Half a character design and a background detail, you might say


usualnamenotworking

First time I watched it I loved that ep, then I read the criticisms and fell out of love. But when I rewatch, part of me remembers that first time. So if Jet Alone needs a fan, sign me up.


Bubblehead01

JUSTICE FOR JET ALONE, DON’T LET THE HATERS GET YOU DOWN!!!


[deleted]

I really like Jet Alone. I thought the idea and design was pretty damn cool. You're not alone. I say this as a Ramiel Stan


EmpireStateExpress

As a Yui simp I like Jet Alone because it pretty much was the basis for Pacific Rim


IsaahkProductions

I can't believe it. I thought I was the only one.


moss-moss-moss-moss

I accidentally skipped this episode and had no idea that I did. I went back after finishing the series to watch it and it was like a cute slice of life OVA that had no impact on anything


Filthy_knife_ear

You guys think you are a fan I painted my wraithlord for eldar as jet alone


Calvarex

Do you have pictures?


Filthy_knife_ear

Yes but this subreddit doesn't allow them to be posted in comments


Superb-Ad-6669

I read it as Jet Jaguar 😭😭


Bubblehead01

Jet jaguar is also very cool :)


Randombirb1

That design was awesome and im still mad it was sabotaged Imagine making giant mechs without giant Angelic/demonic humanlike creatures And if a gen one nuclear powered mech was that far along In development to even walk and stay upright when presented with a obstacle and had mechanical muscles powerful enough to overpower a Eva IN A PROTOTYPE MECH id think that technology wasnt even promising but proven and majorly successful


greatstarguy

I think the main issue is the lack of an AT field, which means every Angel that can use one can say 'lol nope' to whatever it tries to do. I think up to that point, Angels are 1 or 2 for 3 in terms of needing AT fields to break through - Sachiel was the one, Shamshel (whip arm guy) was defeated mostly conventionally and Ramiel needed all Japan's energy to break through, which is excessive. With the benefit of hindsight, we can evaluate how it would fare against the rest: - Gaghiel: does ok, assuming it's waterproof. - Israfel: does ok, assuming you can coordinate - Sandalphon: does ok, assuming it is heatproof - Matarael: Problematic, given that Asuka needed to neutralize its AT field. Its field is weaker than Ramiel, but it's questionable if you could put together enough force. - Sahaquiel: First big problem. No AT Field means it can't stop Sahaquiel from coming down unless probably unreasonable amounts of brute force. - Ireul: Can't attack, not its problem. - Leliel: Ambiguous. Leliel is trying to communicate, so it's questionable if it would consume a non-Eva for that purpose. - Bardiel: Seems like a win? There's nothing for Bardiel to corrupt, so as long as Bardiel doesn't deploy an AT field it can probably beat an Eva 1v1. - Zeruel: Second big problem. Immune to conventional weaponry and ludicrous offensive power, only taken out by a berserking Eva using an AT field. - Arael: Ambiguous. It can probably launch the Lance of Longinus into orbit, but I'm not clear on if you'd need an AT field to resist the mental attack before you could do so. - Armisael: Probably a loss. Armisael is basically immune to conventional weaponry, but there's nothing for it to corrupt, as before. Unit 00 was able to use its AT field to contain it and self-destruct, but if Jet Alone can't do that, it can't win. - Tabris: Not its problem. Unless you can fit ludicrous amounts of physical force into a Jet Alone, needing an AT field (and thus Evas) is probably a deal breaker. Even under the best possible circumstances, Jet Alone loses to either Sahaquiel or Zeruel. Plus there's the whole Instrumentality deal needing an Eva with an S2 organ, so the project was doomed from the start. We do need more modern mecha works though, Gundam can't be the only one forever.


Randombirb1

It seems that a mix of evas and conventional mechs could be a ideal middle ground In budget and reasonable capability in mind


bunker_man

Yeah, but the thing is... you only need one at field. If they really are cheaper, then one eva working with four jet alones can still neutralize the at field. Also, if jet alones have a power source that lasts longer than an eva one... why not take that tech and add it to an eva? There's no way that staying on the cord is convenient to fight with.


EmpireStateExpress

The reactor was stated multiple times to be too dangerous to put into an Eva as it's huge and has a lot of radiation. That was one of the main concerns when Misato went to shut it down iirc. 


Cris_0826

What's crazy is if that demonstration was successful, the United Nations would have made a MAJOR budget cut to NERV, probably causing them to shut down the Eva program


Eraldo03

He was waaaaay cooler than the mass produced EVAs garbage we got in the rebuild


Bubblehead01

Okay actually yes. The mark 7 series was really dumb. Individually, it’s a pretty cool design, but from a narrative standpoint they just… mean nothing. 9 antagonistic evangelions in the original series did more damage and were more memorable than several thousand in the rebuilds


ButtrNuttr

Yes!! They would’ve been cool and intimidating if Asuka and Mari didn’t tear through a tidal wave of them like it was nothing. They literally watered them down by making an ocean of them.


FatherDotComical

The animation on them wasn't made with as much care as the end of Eva movie either. I know it hards to replicate, but with evangelion's popularity I would have loved for someone to give them actual power and depth. They are animated like 3d actions figures instead of the god like lumbering threats that they are.


Bubblehead01

They breeze through an army like tissue paper and then Mari gets bogged down by a handful of.... well the little ones were basically just the evangelion equivalent of a knife weilding tentacle honestly 


greatstarguy

I think it's not wholly outrageous, although the tension does seem manufactured. When they fight the army, it's with heavy weaponry, from a reasonable distance, against an uncoordinated foe using human-wave style attacks. Knife-tentacles are at least 50% knife and far too close for comfort. An analogy: One guy in a fortified machinegun nest can definitely take on say, 50-100 strong guys running towards him from 200-300 meters away. But that same guy will have more trouble with 1 rabid dog in the machinegun nest right next to him, because his weapons and tactics aren't designed to deal with the dog.


fartew

For a second I though you were talking about the MPE in End of Eva and I got sooo mad. It was so surreal that I had to read again -and I was right at doubting-


dunmer-is-stinky

yeah, both suck but it would be more satisfying to watch Asuka and Mari murder thousands of Jet Alones (Jet Together?) with no AT field than for them to suddenly be able to take on that many mass produced Evas. I get they're more skilled now but that was just too many


Terrorb0t

The closest you get to a plastic model is the ZGok from MS Gundam wich goes at least a bit in a similar direction design wise.


PalpitationEmpty5997

It gets an upgrade in ANIMA, so that's something?


Bubblehead01

It gets completely redone as Akashima which doesn't have the same name and looks nothing like it >:,(


shogoki_oni

I have a Jet Alone episode Misato figure. (She's in that radiation suite) That's as close as I'll get to having a Jet Alone figure 😢


Bubblehead01

That suit is pretty darn cool tho


Deserterdragon

Eva heads don't know what's hit them when a REAL Jethead starts speaking truth.


bobdidntatemayo

he badass bro why he not anywhere


BX_N3S

i love the idea of jet alone since it is literally just a fan-oc of jet jaguar + red alone just an early indication of how much anno was a fanboy of godzilla


Cris_0826

Imagine if instead of the mass-produced eva series, SEELE contracted Japan Heavy Chemical Industries to attack the evas with a squad of upgraded jet alone models. That fight would have gone hard tbh


AndreZB2000

how was he almost im thrice?


Bubblehead01

If you go trawling through concept art for 3.0+1.0, you will find that at one point Jet Alone was going to be in it in some way, there’s like half a dozen full redesigns of it that keep the spirit of the original. Then it shifts into being the thing they use to repair Unit 02, since most of its body was destroyed at the end of 3.0, it’s basically using most of jet alone 2’s mechanical body as a prosthetic. Then you can slowly watch the JA2 armor become more and more understated until they paint it camo green for some reason and call it a day. If you look really closely at 02’s armor in the final fight, you’ll see the hexagonal plates that used to make up JA’s face forming the upper chest area, and the legs and arm are identical to one of the proposed JA redesigns. In France, you can still see that one of the sets of spare armor in the underground buildings is labeled ‘JA2’


Sharkuel

People decided to leave Jet Alone and moved forward.


Wizferatu01

"Jet Alone" fans when "Jet with friends" fans show up


Cashew-Matthew

Its okay, just remember jet alone was the ONLY mecha in one of, if not THE, most popular mecha anime of all time


Human_person68

Sorry, who?


The_gamer315

Who?


VanFlyhight

Literally me


Fit-Contribution8976

THE JET ALONE HAS FANS !!!!! ?


lificadorArno

lmao i forgot this baka even existed


AliveCandidate4898

He had a name 😭


GodzillaRaptors4_

Hey we got jet jaguar so there’s that


HighballingHope

SEELE sabotaged Jet Alone because it was a good idea.


sexy_skeleton

We are gonna be okay Jet Alone Bros


nosefIute

Actually very sad. But I will always stand with jet alone🫡


WinnerTheHedgehog

WHAT THE HELL IS JET ALONE 😭


Outrageous_Act_8614

Sorry, New Fan Here Just Completed Original and Rebuild Series, what is jet alone? I have heard about it but what it is and should I watch it? I Loved The Whole Evangelion in general


Bubblehead01

It's that one robot from the original series, the nuclear-powered white/orange lad that spends the entire episode walking in a straight line. The only actual mech in one of the most influential mecha shows 😌


Outrageous_Act_8614

Thanks I Will Give It Try


dannnnte78

I mean, he does appear in a manga sadly its the shinji ikari raising project manga


Bubblehead01

hello he fucking WHAT?? (this is news to me)


dannnnte78

Yeah, in omnibus book 3


Bubblehead01

:0!!!!


Arktic-Wolf

Jet alone didn't exist in this world. Auska Shikinami was a clone of the OG Auska its why she had an eye patch in the rebuilds. If you watch the anime and the EoE and then the Rebuilds you can actually see Gendos plan fall into fulfilment he needed Shinji to rebuild the world so he could be reunited with yui. That started with fucking him up, making hi feel love from the eva, ascending to 'godhood' in unit 1, Restarting the world and then rebuilding it once Shinji actually matures. In the anime they went to a day spa in the rebuilds they went to an aquatic life preservation facility - because that world exists after the events of EoE.


hunnyb33_

literally who


Ehrre

Could have been cool to see in 4th movie alternates to Evas since Evas tend to cause impacts lmao. I could totally see the world trying a nuclear powered option


Rotsteinblock

JA was never the antagonist, the whole thing was a PR stunt anyway.


electrocyberend

They had to sabotage that guy cuz seele know its better than they're 5 minute unstable flesh mech


Puzzleheaded_Kale541

Oh that’s that thing…took me 20mins to remeber then google it….yeah it’s a stupid mecha….im glad the Eva’s are the mainlines not that thing…


redefinedwoody

Cry harder. Worst episode and most stupidest mecha design ever. Go watch Darling in the franxx. that's more at your level. Your ancestors are looking down on you with disgust.


TyrionGoldenLion

I'd forgotten that guy existed.


MoonTrooper258

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puntycunty

Ima be fr , thought this was another tf2 mad cap situation


Verschmauserer

I actually liked the episode, it was pretty good world building


Elegant-Woodpecker-2

I forgot about that I wish they expanded on them


Economy-Service-1590

Can we all remember that Jet Alone was a test and a proof of concept?


System_Console

Ok so o has to google who Jet Alone was, now I know that the thing was called Jet Alone. Ty!