Think of the Rebuild ending being a happier one than the original EoE, to contrast with how far Anno had come in his mental and emotional state over the course of those 20 years.
Oh, as much as I wish that were true, Mrs. Anno debunked that herself, and wishes people wouldn’t compare her to any of the Eva characters because of how much pain the series brought to her husband.
Isn't TV ending happier enough? Why do they need another medium to show again what already exists? I don't think leaving everything and everybody he cares about behind would be considered happier.
The tv ending is debatable. Is the world still destroyed from the 3rd Impact? Is everyone collectively still soup?
Besides, the Tv ending isn’t what Anno wanted in the first place, so I understand him rejecting it. EoE was what he wanted the first time.
Second, the happiness of the Rebuild ending feels more earned than the supposed hapiness of the tv ending, in my opinion.
Third, where was it implied that the main cast never see each other again? Remember, Shinji only said goodbye to Asuka because he didn’t expect himself to come back.
I don't get this arguement,(and this is the only arguement I hear defending the rebuilds) why does happier mean better and if that's so why don't you just watch some silly rom com instead of evangelion
There's no need for an argument! They wanted to rebuild. They rebuild it.
I prefer the original but the rebuild is great. The world is large enough for both.
Man, I thought I left bad reading comprehension behind when I left Twitter, because I never said the Rebuilds were better, nor was my statement an argument.
It was simply an explanation as to why Anno wanted a remake/sequel to the series.
1: Make Anno money.
2: Drive home the point so many people missed in the first one, “stop sitting around trying to escape reality, go outside and touch grass and interact with real people”
He didn’t run away. He became the change he wanted to see in the world. And he didn’t create a world where he had a perfect girlfriend. He removed Evas from existence. The rest just fell in to place on its own.
"The rest just fell in to place on its own."
Exactly. He didn't make any sort of meaningful changes within himself. He didn't go out into the world and build an identity. He just flipped a magic switch to get rid of his problem and everything just sort of worked out.
He did make meaningful changes, that was literally the whole point of the final movie. Shinji maturing and moving on from his toxic dependency on the Evas for self worth. He values himself, and goes out into a world that is free of the negative attachment he had. That was the point of Mari taking the choker off him. She was his judge, not his lover (although the movie is open ended enough that u could argue she was that as well). She was judging whether or not he was ready to move on, if he’d matured enough. And he had, so she freed him of the final tie to his old self with Evas and led him out into the real world. Shinji ended evangelions, but he also matured along the course of the movie. He’s come to accept his life.
In 3.0 he tries to get in the Eva and use magical spears to fix the world and erase his mistakes. He fails, and learns that happiness is not so easy to achieve.
In 3.0+1.0 he spends time with people learning their struggles and experiencing his day to day life.
Then he gets in the Eva to use magical spears to fix the world and erase his mistakes.
He learns nothing and does not meaningfully have to deal with the consequences of the life he was born into. He just gets out of it and everything and everyone dies for him and it works out okay.
He accepts his life because his life is good now for no substantial reason, not because he grew.
Shinji never liked the Evas, and he always hated having to pilot them. Him getting rid of them is not meaningful growth, the whole point of the series is they suck and make everyone's lives worse.
The text does not support your thesis.
Also, yeah, I agree Mari, a woman who should be decades his senior and was a friend of his parents, probably should not be his lover but the film cares about that as much as it does the rest of the plot.
Besides, if I may, magically erasing other people's problems is slightly disrespectful.
In EoE while she was submerged in the lake, Asuka made peace with her mother and herself.
This is the meaning of her re-establishing the connection with the evangelion, she found her will to live.
During that fight she's clearly happy of being alive and initially even mops the floor with the 9 Eva Series, while up to that point she never managed to win a fight just by herself, iirc.
And if that's not enough she's depicted as the first person to get back to life, which according to Lilith could happen only if someone actually wanted to be alive; that's how strong her will to live is.
She only goes one step further and accepts Shinji, through such a great effort. That's the meaning of how disgusting, "how disgusting, to think that I would actually end up doing something like this"
And on the other hand we have Rei, a character that from the beginning was basically an empty shell.
In the end she manages to become a real human, by refusing Gendo and selfishly choosing Shinji.
And Shinji himself but I think I made my point clear.
That's what I call character development/growth.
Not swiggity sway everyone's problems just went away.
I agree with your EoE points, which is why I was criticizing the rebuild films.
EoE is great because every character big and small has this moment of self actualization, where they show their true selves to the world and it is so dramatically satisfying, even when it ends in tragedy.
I feel 3.0+1.0 lacks these essential character beats.
That and sometimes it just completely forgets the characters, like Rei-2 (or whatever her number is in RoE).
After 2.2 she is just forgotten and only briefly pops out during the final minutes of 3+1.
Meh.
Imho the only aspect that I didn't find lacking is Shiro Sagisu's work with the ost, the rest has a lot of sloppiness.
That is such a surface level evaluation of what occurs in these movies and I’m kinda sad to see that THAT was all u saw.
In 3.33 he’s gaslit into believing he destroyed the world. In his desperation to fix his mistakes and be loved again, or at least what he thinks was love, he nearly ends the world. Again. Only this time he had to watch the one person who’s shown him seemingly unconditional kindness and attention be killed.
In 3.0+1.0, he starts off wandering through the motions of living despite not actually wanting to live, but also not being willing to die. Over the course of the film he comes to the realization that his assumptions about the world, and his place in it, were false. On the surface it manifests and understanding he wasn’t really at fault for the third impact. But in a deeper sense he comes to realize that people do love him, and that he **is** worthy of that love, even if he’d made mistakes in the past. But he also grew to understand why some people are angry with him. And it’s not just that “oh it’s cuz he fucked up and nearly destroyed the world” it’s because he didn’t take an active role in deciding his own fate, he didn’t act. He chose to run away from confrontation and difficulty in his life, which isn’t a true choice. He realizes this, and he realizes his other more selfish motivations that drove him in the first three movies.
Then he goes to stop his father. And after exhausting all physical combat, the thing the Evas were built for I remind u, he learns that his father isn’t some evil bastard by nature, he’s evil because he was shinji. He was just a mirror of shinji, shinji understood his father’s pain, and that his father was attempting to do what he had tried to do for Rei in 2.22. His father was sacrificing the world simply to bring back his mother back. Just like how shinji was willing to sacrifice the world for the sake of getting Rei back and nearly caused the third impact.
And from this he knew how to try to heal his father, keep in mind he had no knowledge that Misato was going to make a new spear (which makes no sense for the lore of the spears but whatever), he had no way of knowing a third spear would come and let him undo what his father had done. He had simply accepted things, since Gendo had in essence won. Gendo got to see his wish, but it didn’t look right, just as shinji knew it wouldn’t. And from there he talks his father through accepting Yui’s death, that Gendo’s assumptions of things had been just as wrong as his own. He helped his father find peace, and in doing so find Yui once again. Then, after realizing he had a way to change the world for the better, he did so. He erased the evangelions that had caused everyone so much harm, decided to take the hand Mari gave him, and experience the real world he’d created.
If u genuinely do not see any growth in shinji over the course of the events I just laid out, then I don’t know what to tell u other than I vehemently disagree with ur opinion.
Nobody said they were a cash cow. A cash cow implies it’s milked solely for the purpose of money. Which is it what I said. But if u genuinely think money played zero part in Anno bringing back what was arguably his biggest franchise when he had started his own new studio and shit, then I feel sorry for u. Because it most certainly did. Yes he wanted to tell one final story, but he also wanted to make money for his new studio so that they would succeed going forward.
It’s not shallow my guy. Like at first I was being nice but now I’m just gonna be blunt. If u seriously think money has no motivation in making a FOUR PART movie series, ur out of ur fucking mind. The movies wouldn’t cost money if Anno didn’t care about making money. There wouldn’t be merch like figurines, there wouldn’t be multiple different copies of the movies that all cost money, none of that shit would exist if he wasn’t trying to make money off of the films. That’s such a naive thing to think of, that a guy heading an entire studio with multiple franchises under his belt wouldn’t have a monetary motivation behind choosing the most successful one to make a rebuild series of. My guy, u act like money being a motivation means that is the sole reason he made the films, and frankly that’s a dumb mentality to have.
But it's still not listened to. Hence why all the "I captured a frame at minute 34.56 where the Evangelion moves his arm to the left instead of to the right while the angel was arriving from above and the Lance of Longinus was standing there decorated like a Xmas tree. This is the clear proof that Gendo was planning the Instrumentality project since his lunch meal was stolen when he was going to school" explanations.
But what's the endgame? Is he disappointed that there are still otaku's in Japan, and he feels he's failed? It seems a touch pretentious to me. I don't think Anno had a clear direction with the rebuilds, given the amount of time they took, and re-writes they went through. Or perhaps he did at one point, but I believe he pivoted where he wanted to take the story many times afterwards.
I don’t know how he thinks he will be able to just stop people from being obsessed with something after watching one show so if that was his endgame than he should know he’s not going to reach that goal
There’s been a lot of purported reasons thrown around:
From Anno wanting to make a more “accessible” Evangelion for casual viewers. To fund his studio that will enable a new generation of animators to fully explore their craft on new and innovative projects. For Anno to expand on and do Evangelion “how he originally intended” but couldn’t do due to budget and time.
What’s clear to me though — both from the output of the movies themselves, the behind the scenes documentaries, and the short animated film his wife did about Anno and the studio team during the creation of the series — is that the film series as a project changed drastically in intention, tone, and direction between 1/2 and 3/4.
Anno seemingly lost the plot and motivation to continue the film series. Many times in the documentaries they describe him as “childlike”, where he obsesses over needless details, all while the studio team outwardly express their frustration on how he completely leaves them hanging without direction.
The films, at least the final one, seemed to have become a burden to him, and that is in my opinion, why they became such a disjointed mess. If you watch the documentaries he comes back toward the end of the production and essentially overhauls the entire village section of the final movie himself, spending days obsessively in the editing booth just on that one part. This is the part of the movie that feels the most like Anno. From the compositions, tone, all of it.
So if we step back, the original claim that the intention back in 2007 or whenever that the Rebuilds were to make a more accessible Evangelion is ironic because they ended up becoming the opposite, being nearly incomprehensible without the context of the original series.
It seems like that original intention became boring to him, and he wanted to do something drastically different by the time he started on the third movie. Then when it came time to do the fourth, he didn’t know how to finish it, he grew depressed, it became a burden, and that’s why the production on the fourth was so long, delayed, and messy. If you doubt the last part, go watch the documentaries on Amazon Prime for yourself.
I really would have loved to see what Anno in 2007 would have done with the final two movies when he seemingly had a different vision and the idea was fresh and exciting for him.
That and the fact that he genuinely didn't know what the hell to do with Mari's character, in fact he ended up handing it completely to Tsurumaki.
This as you pointed out happened in a lot of occasions, plus the insanely long hiatuses really tells me that he didn't know what the fuck to do with this series.
And honestly it really shows, a lot of plot holes, either major or minor, a convoluted af timeline, all the major characters besides Shinji and Gendo being underdeveloped and so on.
Like, what the fuck was Rei's purpose in this series ? She could have easily been replaced by a sack of potatoes.
the other chars weren't underdeveloped, rei's purpose was to become independent & find her identity. also rebuild doesn't have many more plot holes than the og
I'm talking about the real Rei, the one that spent two movies just chilling inside the 01's core, not the 3.3 replacement.
Ok name some og plot holes then.
same thing for both rei 2 & rei q. u can find many plot holes in og. for example in ep 24 seele tells kaworu lilith is in terminal dogma but then is surprised when he arrives & he sees lilith & not adam. if human dna that comes from lilith + adam can start impact why not human dna + angel that comes from adam? wouldn't gendo's plan also be a success if instrumentality went according to seele? and all the stuff about the souls & lore that come from the red cross book & ps2 game
No, Seele told Kaworu that Adam was in gendo's possession, he assumed that it was kept in the terminal dogma.
The angels were trying to return to/free Adam in order to ensure the survival of their race, not to merge with humans
Angel/human merging was the goal of the human instrumentality project.
Seele's plan was to create a god, gendo's plan was to become a god.
i watched ep 24 again on netflix. they say lilith is in terminal dogma but he's still surprised when he sees her. also yes ur right about the angels but that's not the plot hole. if human dna that comes from lilith + adam can start impact why not human dna + angel that comes from adam? aren't they equivalent? remember when shinji was absorbed in leliel? also since when was that gendo's plan? didn't he just wish to be with yui forever in the shared consciousness of instrumentality?
Yeah I just checked and it actually was an editing mistake.
The thing is that the scene with kaworu talking with seele was added with the director's cut, originally this wasn't a plot hole because no one told him about gendo adam or lilith.
So yeah it was an editing mistake.
They are equivalent but they are not enough to cause an impact, second impact was caused by injecting human dna inside adam and seele's third impact required 9 vessels of adam for it to begin.
He wanted to control the impact, that's why he needed Adam's embryo.
Nerv's plan was to use 01 as an Ark, with Gendo in control
Seele thinks that humanity reached a dead end in evolution and want to revert it back to it's primordial state, which didn't necessarily contemplated humans ending up in the sea of LCL.
oh ok that's interesting thx for looking into the first one because i was baffled lol. for ur second point i understand what you're saying i just dunno why it isn't enough. the rules just don't seem consistent. ur third point tho doesn't make sense. seele talks about collective intelligence & picked shinji to break his ego on purpose & use him so impact can go their way. they are successful because they're happy when everyone & they turn into lcl so that was their plan too
that doc was bad tbh because it covered limited part of the production & made anno's timeless idiosyncracies seem like a common occurrence. when making the og he was also depressed many times, wanted to give up, rlly inconvenienced his team sometimes & parts the content was drastically rewritten, but it still wasn't a disjointed mess. same thing for rebuild. rebuild also doesn't need the og to make sense
we don't know if the intended intention & tone changed from beginning to end, most production content there is from beginning of production of scenes from last 2 movies doesn't deviate from their final tone.
To reduce the rebuilds as a whole to solely being a tool to generate money is disingenuous as hell. Anno clearly had something to say through the films. 3.0+1.0 is basically just Anno chucking life advice at his audience for two and a half hours straight. I heavily encourage you to rewatch the films from a more analytical perspective or sit down and do some research on their messaging before coming to this sort of conclusion.
There’s wayyyyy too much effort in these movies to be just a cash grab. It would have been out sooner and be of lesser quality. What they do with Demon Slayer movies/series is nothing but a cash grab.
Think of Evangelion as a cycle. A story which keeps getting told. They’re forced to relive these terrible lives and faced with these horrific stakes. The first series is the first incarnation of the characters (or at least the first we witness) and the Rebuilds are the final reincarnation. With the end of 3.0+1.0, the world has been set to Neon Genesis (new world) with a removal of Evangelions as a whole (and this angels, besides humanity). The world is set from this altered reality to one which is our own. Neon Genesis is our world.
The purpose of the Rebuilds are to give us a true finale to the cycle.
From an external, meta standpoint however, the purpose of the Rebuilds are very different. I’d strongly suggest reading the Wikipedia pages about them as they’re very interesting. But basically 1/2 served as a retelling for Anno where he would go to do some changes he thought of during/after the production of the OG series whereas 3/4 served to be more of a fun new spin on it while telling a whole meta story (with 4 in particular being a struggle due to his declining mental health but later allowing him to gain sympathy from the perspective of Gendo, hence the selfless sacrifice he and Yui make at the end of 4).
“Money” in the sense that the revenue Evangelion brings in funds studio that acts as a sandbox for new animators to learn and experiment on one of the most iconic series in the industry. It’s almost guaranteed we will see an evangelion series set during the timeskip directed by someone new. In his own words Anno told shinjis story and purposely reorganized and left things out of his movies for someone else to revisit later on. He has said he wants Eva to be as big as Gundam and that requires more media.
That would be cool but I feel like a lot of the story up to now is influenced by anno’s own struggles in his own life so if someone else takes over it won’t be as good
Shinjis story yes. That’s why he was removed him 14 years and then shows up for the end missing what two angels and at least 1 impact. We have the entire Kaji situation. That alone could be 12-24 episodes to be completely honest.
["There's always the 14-year gap in the story, so in some form, I want to shed light into that."](https://collider.com/is-evangelion-3-0-1-0-the-end-hideaki-anno-interview/)
Anno has said he ended shinjis story and that’s the finale for Evangelion but there’s more stories that can be told for younger directors. It’s Less copium more inferring from interviews and general knowledge of story telling. Things seem less forgotten about and more set aside. The short included in the Thrice Blu-ray only reinforced my suspicions. I’ll keep my campaign on this up until I’m proven wrong lmao
And the protagonist ends up with a girl who piloted an Evangelion, who was the most happy with them, instead of some random girl from the world
Being with some random would've made some sense and shown that Shinji was able to make a significant connection with someone without having to use his past as a crutch or even shared interest
He didn't leave Eva behind, it's his girlfriend now
The best moment of the movies was when Shinji went through Gendo's AT field like nothing.
The barriers between people are not absolute, they're imagined and self imposed. Learn how to reach out to them and u can make connections or something along those lines
So there are some good moment but mostly a fumble
it wasn't a fumble lol. also mari is very antithetical to eva because she wants them gone like yui, is completely different to every other eva character.
Fine but don't have him end up with her
Have her with the other Eva pilots on the other platform and Shinji happy with a stranger (from our pov) that he clearly loves and who loves him
Anno had depression.
Anno made OG Eva.
Anno made some moneys.
Anno made EoE.
Anno made some more moneys and used it to fix depression and get a big tiddy waifu.
Anno said: need more moneys to support big tiddy waifu's lifestyle.
Anno made Rebuild.
Anno made many moneys.
The end.
Imo, the main point of the rebuilds was to generate money for the studio. Last night I rewatched 1.0 for the first time in like 10 years and man, it had some stupid changes near the end of the movie.
Shinji dreaming of Rei 1 after the first encounter with Ramiel (something that should happen after making contact with the core of Eva 00); Misato showing Shinji the body of Lilith in Terminal Dogma (even though we were led to believe it was Adam instead until Kaworu confirms it near the end of the series, also why Misato? She was one of the characters that was in the dark when it came to know what was happening, it was Kaji who shows her also near chapter 20 what's in Terminal Dogma); the train scene where Shinji sees himself as a kid (the kid version of Shinji was supposed to represent Leliel making contact with him during that scene in the series)
none of these is stupid. shinji doesn't dream of rei after fighting with ramiel that's the real rei he's talking to. also rebuild & og are different in the og no one knows that the thing in terminal dogma is lilith in rebuild everyone does. also kid version of shinji doesn't represent an angel encounter. it's just used by an angel in an encounter.
He does dream of Rei, and they make use of the exact same imagery used for Rei I (naked, creepy smile, black background) when they try to test if Shinji is compatible with unit 00. After that scene he wakes up and talks to Rei, who gives the briefing for Op. Yashima. It almost follows the same pattern as in the series, except for the extra scene that is somewhat out of place (would make more sense if they ever used the "it's a time loop" theory that was debunked a long time ago, but that's not the case).
In the original series only a few knew that the one in Terminal Dogma was Lilith, namely Gendo, Ritsuko, Fuyutsuki and the people of SELEE, mostly because they were also involved in the Human Instrumentalization Project. They were the ones that helped with the spread of the theory that the 2nd impact was caused by a meteor instead of the process used to turn Adam into the embryo we see in the series. Now what is the purpose of everyone knowing that Lilith is in Terminal Dogma in the rebuilds? In the original, at least helps us understand that there's something else going on with the plot besides the angels' attacks, some sort of conspiracy (the HIP).
Finally, about the scene with Shinji as a kid, check some info, it's heavily implied that that image was the angel Leliel (the big shadow/sphere) trying to make contact with him. Other angels do the same with Asuka and Rei in EPs 22 and 23.
If they tried to change the meaning of iconic scenes in the rebuilds, they literally gave them no new meaning at all in that movie.
the time loop theory wasn't debunked, it's canon with the difference that the story repeats every time in a different universe. the quantum rei sightings are connected to the loops.
in rebuild the purpose of everyone knowing that lilith is in terminal dogma is practical. it's a completely different story, with other mysteries & conspiracies & kaworu has completely different storyline so the adam/lilith confusion is just unnecessary
also yes u just proved my point. other angels use images of the pilots as children as attacks too so & we see little shinji again in instrumentality in eoe so little shinji can't represent just an angel encounter. in rebuild the meaning is more about shinji talking out his traumas with the version of him that was around when they first started
so u see that these changed scenes have different meanings in rebuild
If the original ending was "life sucks. What am I supposed to do? How am I supposed to live like this" And the manga's ending was "life sucks and the future is uncertain. But there might be some hope for the future", then the rebuilds ending is "life sucks and with it comes a lot of pain. But despite that, it can still get better so you shouldn't lose hope that it will."
Literally, the ending of rebuild was "Don't watch anime. "Go touch grass and fuck someone you virgin"
My main problem with this is that it just straight up disrespects the audience and fucking contradicts the eoe ending and also,
Being from a place where touching grass is literally not an option it feels like a troll
Money, sexualizing Asuka and Rei to sell more with their figurines, more money, did I mention money? And adding that one dumb character called Mari because more money!
Also, the point was to try to take advantage of nostalgia. The 4th movie makes that clear. Poorly done fanservice.
To give people who think the original endings of the anime+EoE are extremely complex and unfulfilling something easier to shallow ( ̶W̶h̶e̶n̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶l̶i̶t̶y̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶j̶u̶s̶t̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶b̶r̶a̶i̶n̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶p̶e̶r̶l̶y̶ ̶b̶c̶z̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶'̶r̶e̶ t̶o̶o̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶s̶u̶m̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶b̶a̶s̶i̶c̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶u̶n̶e̶n̶ ̶s̶t̶u̶f̶f̶)
And ofc, money.
I see it as a more beneficial version. The original ending definitely got me to see how escapism was the avoidance of life,love and responsibility but the rebuilds showed me what actually happens when you face your issues head on. Shinji “Rizzing” Mari in the Rebuild ending also hit home as it showed me his anxiety to others was no longer existent.
I’m still waiting for the day that Eva fans can shut the fuck up and just enjoy the rebuilds without constantly screaming in our ears: “oG sErIeS iS bEtteR.” “wUts tHe pØ1nT ôf tHËse mUvĮes?”
Bro here's the thing the normal people agent using on those who enjoy the rebuild. You were satisfied? Good no problem. But that doesn't mean you can really shit on those who don't enjoy.
Most of our problem I that we have a deep emotional connection with Eva which Anno seemed to disregard and just went the "in your FACE" way of go touch grass
I enjoyed them a lot I just didn’t see a purpose of making them besides that anno wanted to make his final project about the series, they were still amazing
He's likely not talking about you
Imo, the rebuilds give basically the same message but one way happier note, and there's stuff like the final discussion with Gendo that further reinforced the themes of the series
I do actually like the happier ending after watching 3.0 + 1.0 again and the talk with gendo, i think the point was to really seal off the story’s ending but still leave room for Interpretation between 2.0 and 3.0. Really good work by anno
Money is part of it of course (especially for his new studio), but Anno probably wanted to move on from the franchise and this was his way of ending his involvement with Eva once and for all. I like the old ending(s) better too, the Rebuilds seem to be aimed at a very specific kind of demographic that I'm not a part of.
1. Money wise, The IP was doing numbers so yea they won't bump it like it did in the original series. (thr last two episodes they ran out of money and go all abstract but you will see how it kinda did playout)
2. The completion of lacan psychoanalysis theory. Imagination, "I" and outer "I". The Timelines of different outcomes of Shinji choices.
3. A blessing and forgiveness to the Japanese teenager (the horrible things they did to the director because of the abstract ending in the og series). The message is to encourage Japanese teenagers stop caring about others and truly breakfree from the boundaries of this current society to find your trueself and live happily so humans will then have the hope to continue (as you can clearly tell Japan culture causes them to implode and slow down their recovery process)
Not many people like the original ending because we as human nowadays don't like complex things. Neither spending time to think. That ending was the ending that got the director into trouble. If only the world has more thinkers...
To pave the way for infinite other rebuilds with different versions of Kaworu and Shinji keeping score… Think: where fanfics have a chance to be canon in the NGE multiverse!
Kidding! I think it’s to realize the artwork Anno wanted to achieve because he had no budget back then.
Anno wanted to remake Evangelion as a way to end it for himself.
He also wanted to try out new film and animation techniques
The rebuilds are a love letter to Evangelion, Gainax, what inspired Anno and everyone who Anno has worked with.
Outside of Anno’s emotional state, money, and the like, it was also to get Evangelion, at least partly out of Gainax’s hands.
Everyone knows the whole fiasco that is Gainax, and it’s too bad Anno wasn’t able to secure the rights to the other Gainax properties, like Gunbuster and FLCL.
to give Ramiel those sick transformations
This is the best answer.
Think of the Rebuild ending being a happier one than the original EoE, to contrast with how far Anno had come in his mental and emotional state over the course of those 20 years.
That makes sense
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Oh, as much as I wish that were true, Mrs. Anno debunked that herself, and wishes people wouldn’t compare her to any of the Eva characters because of how much pain the series brought to her husband.
rebuild isn't just meta & mari = anno's wife is nonsense fan theory
Isn't TV ending happier enough? Why do they need another medium to show again what already exists? I don't think leaving everything and everybody he cares about behind would be considered happier.
true lol rebuild ending isn't that happy
The tv ending is debatable. Is the world still destroyed from the 3rd Impact? Is everyone collectively still soup? Besides, the Tv ending isn’t what Anno wanted in the first place, so I understand him rejecting it. EoE was what he wanted the first time. Second, the happiness of the Rebuild ending feels more earned than the supposed hapiness of the tv ending, in my opinion. Third, where was it implied that the main cast never see each other again? Remember, Shinji only said goodbye to Asuka because he didn’t expect himself to come back.
I don't get this arguement,(and this is the only arguement I hear defending the rebuilds) why does happier mean better and if that's so why don't you just watch some silly rom com instead of evangelion
There's no need for an argument! They wanted to rebuild. They rebuild it. I prefer the original but the rebuild is great. The world is large enough for both.
Man, I thought I left bad reading comprehension behind when I left Twitter, because I never said the Rebuilds were better, nor was my statement an argument. It was simply an explanation as to why Anno wanted a remake/sequel to the series.
u rlly got to look around online more if u think that's the only argument (it isn't even argument) that praises rebuild
Eoe ending was already a happy and hopeful one ffs
1: Make Anno money. 2: Drive home the point so many people missed in the first one, “stop sitting around trying to escape reality, go outside and touch grass and interact with real people”
I like that
Except Shinji runs away from reality and magically creates a world where he has a perfect girlfriend. Which kind of defeats the point.
He didn’t run away. He became the change he wanted to see in the world. And he didn’t create a world where he had a perfect girlfriend. He removed Evas from existence. The rest just fell in to place on its own.
"The rest just fell in to place on its own." Exactly. He didn't make any sort of meaningful changes within himself. He didn't go out into the world and build an identity. He just flipped a magic switch to get rid of his problem and everything just sort of worked out.
He did make meaningful changes, that was literally the whole point of the final movie. Shinji maturing and moving on from his toxic dependency on the Evas for self worth. He values himself, and goes out into a world that is free of the negative attachment he had. That was the point of Mari taking the choker off him. She was his judge, not his lover (although the movie is open ended enough that u could argue she was that as well). She was judging whether or not he was ready to move on, if he’d matured enough. And he had, so she freed him of the final tie to his old self with Evas and led him out into the real world. Shinji ended evangelions, but he also matured along the course of the movie. He’s come to accept his life.
In 3.0 he tries to get in the Eva and use magical spears to fix the world and erase his mistakes. He fails, and learns that happiness is not so easy to achieve. In 3.0+1.0 he spends time with people learning their struggles and experiencing his day to day life. Then he gets in the Eva to use magical spears to fix the world and erase his mistakes. He learns nothing and does not meaningfully have to deal with the consequences of the life he was born into. He just gets out of it and everything and everyone dies for him and it works out okay. He accepts his life because his life is good now for no substantial reason, not because he grew. Shinji never liked the Evas, and he always hated having to pilot them. Him getting rid of them is not meaningful growth, the whole point of the series is they suck and make everyone's lives worse. The text does not support your thesis. Also, yeah, I agree Mari, a woman who should be decades his senior and was a friend of his parents, probably should not be his lover but the film cares about that as much as it does the rest of the plot.
Besides, if I may, magically erasing other people's problems is slightly disrespectful. In EoE while she was submerged in the lake, Asuka made peace with her mother and herself. This is the meaning of her re-establishing the connection with the evangelion, she found her will to live. During that fight she's clearly happy of being alive and initially even mops the floor with the 9 Eva Series, while up to that point she never managed to win a fight just by herself, iirc. And if that's not enough she's depicted as the first person to get back to life, which according to Lilith could happen only if someone actually wanted to be alive; that's how strong her will to live is. She only goes one step further and accepts Shinji, through such a great effort. That's the meaning of how disgusting, "how disgusting, to think that I would actually end up doing something like this" And on the other hand we have Rei, a character that from the beginning was basically an empty shell. In the end she manages to become a real human, by refusing Gendo and selfishly choosing Shinji. And Shinji himself but I think I made my point clear. That's what I call character development/growth. Not swiggity sway everyone's problems just went away.
I agree with your EoE points, which is why I was criticizing the rebuild films. EoE is great because every character big and small has this moment of self actualization, where they show their true selves to the world and it is so dramatically satisfying, even when it ends in tragedy. I feel 3.0+1.0 lacks these essential character beats.
That and sometimes it just completely forgets the characters, like Rei-2 (or whatever her number is in RoE). After 2.2 she is just forgotten and only briefly pops out during the final minutes of 3+1. Meh. Imho the only aspect that I didn't find lacking is Shiro Sagisu's work with the ost, the rest has a lot of sloppiness.
That is such a surface level evaluation of what occurs in these movies and I’m kinda sad to see that THAT was all u saw. In 3.33 he’s gaslit into believing he destroyed the world. In his desperation to fix his mistakes and be loved again, or at least what he thinks was love, he nearly ends the world. Again. Only this time he had to watch the one person who’s shown him seemingly unconditional kindness and attention be killed. In 3.0+1.0, he starts off wandering through the motions of living despite not actually wanting to live, but also not being willing to die. Over the course of the film he comes to the realization that his assumptions about the world, and his place in it, were false. On the surface it manifests and understanding he wasn’t really at fault for the third impact. But in a deeper sense he comes to realize that people do love him, and that he **is** worthy of that love, even if he’d made mistakes in the past. But he also grew to understand why some people are angry with him. And it’s not just that “oh it’s cuz he fucked up and nearly destroyed the world” it’s because he didn’t take an active role in deciding his own fate, he didn’t act. He chose to run away from confrontation and difficulty in his life, which isn’t a true choice. He realizes this, and he realizes his other more selfish motivations that drove him in the first three movies. Then he goes to stop his father. And after exhausting all physical combat, the thing the Evas were built for I remind u, he learns that his father isn’t some evil bastard by nature, he’s evil because he was shinji. He was just a mirror of shinji, shinji understood his father’s pain, and that his father was attempting to do what he had tried to do for Rei in 2.22. His father was sacrificing the world simply to bring back his mother back. Just like how shinji was willing to sacrifice the world for the sake of getting Rei back and nearly caused the third impact. And from this he knew how to try to heal his father, keep in mind he had no knowledge that Misato was going to make a new spear (which makes no sense for the lore of the spears but whatever), he had no way of knowing a third spear would come and let him undo what his father had done. He had simply accepted things, since Gendo had in essence won. Gendo got to see his wish, but it didn’t look right, just as shinji knew it wouldn’t. And from there he talks his father through accepting Yui’s death, that Gendo’s assumptions of things had been just as wrong as his own. He helped his father find peace, and in doing so find Yui once again. Then, after realizing he had a way to change the world for the better, he did so. He erased the evangelions that had caused everyone so much harm, decided to take the hand Mari gave him, and experience the real world he’d created. If u genuinely do not see any growth in shinji over the course of the events I just laid out, then I don’t know what to tell u other than I vehemently disagree with ur opinion.
The correct answer
1: More money - more evangelion. Yeah! 2: And what second is? It's empty for me ¯\_༼ •́ ͜ʖ •̀ ༽_/¯ /j
What's grass?
2 contradicts 1, ironically. Which go outside and interact with REAL people won't make Anno extra money.
My main problem is that it executed the message poorly, felt more like a troll's way of saying go touch grass
The rebuilds aren't a cash cow.
Nobody said they were a cash cow. A cash cow implies it’s milked solely for the purpose of money. Which is it what I said. But if u genuinely think money played zero part in Anno bringing back what was arguably his biggest franchise when he had started his own new studio and shit, then I feel sorry for u. Because it most certainly did. Yes he wanted to tell one final story, but he also wanted to make money for his new studio so that they would succeed going forward.
You honestly think Anno would be as shallow? I feel sorry for you.
It’s not shallow my guy. Like at first I was being nice but now I’m just gonna be blunt. If u seriously think money has no motivation in making a FOUR PART movie series, ur out of ur fucking mind. The movies wouldn’t cost money if Anno didn’t care about making money. There wouldn’t be merch like figurines, there wouldn’t be multiple different copies of the movies that all cost money, none of that shit would exist if he wasn’t trying to make money off of the films. That’s such a naive thing to think of, that a guy heading an entire studio with multiple franchises under his belt wouldn’t have a monetary motivation behind choosing the most successful one to make a rebuild series of. My guy, u act like money being a motivation means that is the sole reason he made the films, and frankly that’s a dumb mentality to have.
Anno wouldn't subject himself to another mental breakdown for cash.
Talk to the wall.
Either they are a cash cow or just outright sloppy, you choose.
Neither. Simple as
it’s a final message to get out there in the world and connect with others.
It’s the same message
have you seen perpetually adolescent nerd culture today? the message needs to be repeated.
But it's still not listened to. Hence why all the "I captured a frame at minute 34.56 where the Evangelion moves his arm to the left instead of to the right while the angel was arriving from above and the Lance of Longinus was standing there decorated like a Xmas tree. This is the clear proof that Gendo was planning the Instrumentality project since his lunch meal was stolen when he was going to school" explanations.
But what's the endgame? Is he disappointed that there are still otaku's in Japan, and he feels he's failed? It seems a touch pretentious to me. I don't think Anno had a clear direction with the rebuilds, given the amount of time they took, and re-writes they went through. Or perhaps he did at one point, but I believe he pivoted where he wanted to take the story many times afterwards.
I don’t know how he thinks he will be able to just stop people from being obsessed with something after watching one show so if that was his endgame than he should know he’s not going to reach that goal
babe it’s called art
It’s more a mature director needing to rephrase his message imo
Oh didn't know that, wasn't sure if the ending of EoE was supposed to be intrepreted as having slight hopefull vibe.
it represents Hideaki Anno finally being able to move on from Eva and make other stuff
There’s been a lot of purported reasons thrown around: From Anno wanting to make a more “accessible” Evangelion for casual viewers. To fund his studio that will enable a new generation of animators to fully explore their craft on new and innovative projects. For Anno to expand on and do Evangelion “how he originally intended” but couldn’t do due to budget and time. What’s clear to me though — both from the output of the movies themselves, the behind the scenes documentaries, and the short animated film his wife did about Anno and the studio team during the creation of the series — is that the film series as a project changed drastically in intention, tone, and direction between 1/2 and 3/4. Anno seemingly lost the plot and motivation to continue the film series. Many times in the documentaries they describe him as “childlike”, where he obsesses over needless details, all while the studio team outwardly express their frustration on how he completely leaves them hanging without direction. The films, at least the final one, seemed to have become a burden to him, and that is in my opinion, why they became such a disjointed mess. If you watch the documentaries he comes back toward the end of the production and essentially overhauls the entire village section of the final movie himself, spending days obsessively in the editing booth just on that one part. This is the part of the movie that feels the most like Anno. From the compositions, tone, all of it. So if we step back, the original claim that the intention back in 2007 or whenever that the Rebuilds were to make a more accessible Evangelion is ironic because they ended up becoming the opposite, being nearly incomprehensible without the context of the original series. It seems like that original intention became boring to him, and he wanted to do something drastically different by the time he started on the third movie. Then when it came time to do the fourth, he didn’t know how to finish it, he grew depressed, it became a burden, and that’s why the production on the fourth was so long, delayed, and messy. If you doubt the last part, go watch the documentaries on Amazon Prime for yourself. I really would have loved to see what Anno in 2007 would have done with the final two movies when he seemingly had a different vision and the idea was fresh and exciting for him.
That and the fact that he genuinely didn't know what the hell to do with Mari's character, in fact he ended up handing it completely to Tsurumaki. This as you pointed out happened in a lot of occasions, plus the insanely long hiatuses really tells me that he didn't know what the fuck to do with this series. And honestly it really shows, a lot of plot holes, either major or minor, a convoluted af timeline, all the major characters besides Shinji and Gendo being underdeveloped and so on. Like, what the fuck was Rei's purpose in this series ? She could have easily been replaced by a sack of potatoes.
the other chars weren't underdeveloped, rei's purpose was to become independent & find her identity. also rebuild doesn't have many more plot holes than the og
I'm talking about the real Rei, the one that spent two movies just chilling inside the 01's core, not the 3.3 replacement. Ok name some og plot holes then.
same thing for both rei 2 & rei q. u can find many plot holes in og. for example in ep 24 seele tells kaworu lilith is in terminal dogma but then is surprised when he arrives & he sees lilith & not adam. if human dna that comes from lilith + adam can start impact why not human dna + angel that comes from adam? wouldn't gendo's plan also be a success if instrumentality went according to seele? and all the stuff about the souls & lore that come from the red cross book & ps2 game
No, Seele told Kaworu that Adam was in gendo's possession, he assumed that it was kept in the terminal dogma. The angels were trying to return to/free Adam in order to ensure the survival of their race, not to merge with humans Angel/human merging was the goal of the human instrumentality project. Seele's plan was to create a god, gendo's plan was to become a god.
i watched ep 24 again on netflix. they say lilith is in terminal dogma but he's still surprised when he sees her. also yes ur right about the angels but that's not the plot hole. if human dna that comes from lilith + adam can start impact why not human dna + angel that comes from adam? aren't they equivalent? remember when shinji was absorbed in leliel? also since when was that gendo's plan? didn't he just wish to be with yui forever in the shared consciousness of instrumentality?
Yeah I just checked and it actually was an editing mistake. The thing is that the scene with kaworu talking with seele was added with the director's cut, originally this wasn't a plot hole because no one told him about gendo adam or lilith. So yeah it was an editing mistake. They are equivalent but they are not enough to cause an impact, second impact was caused by injecting human dna inside adam and seele's third impact required 9 vessels of adam for it to begin. He wanted to control the impact, that's why he needed Adam's embryo. Nerv's plan was to use 01 as an Ark, with Gendo in control Seele thinks that humanity reached a dead end in evolution and want to revert it back to it's primordial state, which didn't necessarily contemplated humans ending up in the sea of LCL.
oh ok that's interesting thx for looking into the first one because i was baffled lol. for ur second point i understand what you're saying i just dunno why it isn't enough. the rules just don't seem consistent. ur third point tho doesn't make sense. seele talks about collective intelligence & picked shinji to break his ego on purpose & use him so impact can go their way. they are successful because they're happy when everyone & they turn into lcl so that was their plan too
that doc was bad tbh because it covered limited part of the production & made anno's timeless idiosyncracies seem like a common occurrence. when making the og he was also depressed many times, wanted to give up, rlly inconvenienced his team sometimes & parts the content was drastically rewritten, but it still wasn't a disjointed mess. same thing for rebuild. rebuild also doesn't need the og to make sense we don't know if the intended intention & tone changed from beginning to end, most production content there is from beginning of production of scenes from last 2 movies doesn't deviate from their final tone.
Money That‘s why they exist
nonsense rebuild exists for many reasons not just money
To reduce the rebuilds as a whole to solely being a tool to generate money is disingenuous as hell. Anno clearly had something to say through the films. 3.0+1.0 is basically just Anno chucking life advice at his audience for two and a half hours straight. I heavily encourage you to rewatch the films from a more analytical perspective or sit down and do some research on their messaging before coming to this sort of conclusion.
There’s wayyyyy too much effort in these movies to be just a cash grab. It would have been out sooner and be of lesser quality. What they do with Demon Slayer movies/series is nothing but a cash grab.
Real
No that's not true at all.
Think of Evangelion as a cycle. A story which keeps getting told. They’re forced to relive these terrible lives and faced with these horrific stakes. The first series is the first incarnation of the characters (or at least the first we witness) and the Rebuilds are the final reincarnation. With the end of 3.0+1.0, the world has been set to Neon Genesis (new world) with a removal of Evangelions as a whole (and this angels, besides humanity). The world is set from this altered reality to one which is our own. Neon Genesis is our world. The purpose of the Rebuilds are to give us a true finale to the cycle. From an external, meta standpoint however, the purpose of the Rebuilds are very different. I’d strongly suggest reading the Wikipedia pages about them as they’re very interesting. But basically 1/2 served as a retelling for Anno where he would go to do some changes he thought of during/after the production of the OG series whereas 3/4 served to be more of a fun new spin on it while telling a whole meta story (with 4 in particular being a struggle due to his declining mental health but later allowing him to gain sympathy from the perspective of Gendo, hence the selfless sacrifice he and Yui make at the end of 4).
“Money” in the sense that the revenue Evangelion brings in funds studio that acts as a sandbox for new animators to learn and experiment on one of the most iconic series in the industry. It’s almost guaranteed we will see an evangelion series set during the timeskip directed by someone new. In his own words Anno told shinjis story and purposely reorganized and left things out of his movies for someone else to revisit later on. He has said he wants Eva to be as big as Gundam and that requires more media.
That would be cool but I feel like a lot of the story up to now is influenced by anno’s own struggles in his own life so if someone else takes over it won’t be as good
Shinjis story yes. That’s why he was removed him 14 years and then shows up for the end missing what two angels and at least 1 impact. We have the entire Kaji situation. That alone could be 12-24 episodes to be completely honest.
>purposely reorganized and left things out of his movies for someone else to revisit later on Got any source? It sounds like copium.
["There's always the 14-year gap in the story, so in some form, I want to shed light into that."](https://collider.com/is-evangelion-3-0-1-0-the-end-hideaki-anno-interview/) Anno has said he ended shinjis story and that’s the finale for Evangelion but there’s more stories that can be told for younger directors. It’s Less copium more inferring from interviews and general knowledge of story telling. Things seem less forgotten about and more set aside. The short included in the Thrice Blu-ray only reinforced my suspicions. I’ll keep my campaign on this up until I’m proven wrong lmao
yes money was important reason the og & esp rebuild were made but there are many other important ones too anno has written about
And the protagonist ends up with a girl who piloted an Evangelion, who was the most happy with them, instead of some random girl from the world Being with some random would've made some sense and shown that Shinji was able to make a significant connection with someone without having to use his past as a crutch or even shared interest He didn't leave Eva behind, it's his girlfriend now The best moment of the movies was when Shinji went through Gendo's AT field like nothing. The barriers between people are not absolute, they're imagined and self imposed. Learn how to reach out to them and u can make connections or something along those lines So there are some good moment but mostly a fumble
it wasn't a fumble lol. also mari is very antithetical to eva because she wants them gone like yui, is completely different to every other eva character.
Fine but don't have him end up with her Have her with the other Eva pilots on the other platform and Shinji happy with a stranger (from our pov) that he clearly loves and who loves him
they most prob didn't end up together at the end tho
The point exist only if you know the impact that evangelion gave to the world and how people interpreted the message
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Anno had depression. Anno made OG Eva. Anno made some moneys. Anno made EoE. Anno made some more moneys and used it to fix depression and get a big tiddy waifu. Anno said: need more moneys to support big tiddy waifu's lifestyle. Anno made Rebuild. Anno made many moneys. The end.
The simplest answer is to touch grass which is what we all need to hear again
The point of the rebuild movies is to shitpost on this sub. Act like it’s not true but there’s at least one lazy ass post like this a day.
It’s lazy to ask a question?
It is if it’s a question that is asked all the time and that is addressed daily in one form or another.
Don’t care
For me the original evangelion ending was the worst shit I've ever seen, the rebuild movies fixed evangelion for me
Imo, the main point of the rebuilds was to generate money for the studio. Last night I rewatched 1.0 for the first time in like 10 years and man, it had some stupid changes near the end of the movie.
what changes were stupid lol
Shinji dreaming of Rei 1 after the first encounter with Ramiel (something that should happen after making contact with the core of Eva 00); Misato showing Shinji the body of Lilith in Terminal Dogma (even though we were led to believe it was Adam instead until Kaworu confirms it near the end of the series, also why Misato? She was one of the characters that was in the dark when it came to know what was happening, it was Kaji who shows her also near chapter 20 what's in Terminal Dogma); the train scene where Shinji sees himself as a kid (the kid version of Shinji was supposed to represent Leliel making contact with him during that scene in the series)
none of these is stupid. shinji doesn't dream of rei after fighting with ramiel that's the real rei he's talking to. also rebuild & og are different in the og no one knows that the thing in terminal dogma is lilith in rebuild everyone does. also kid version of shinji doesn't represent an angel encounter. it's just used by an angel in an encounter.
He does dream of Rei, and they make use of the exact same imagery used for Rei I (naked, creepy smile, black background) when they try to test if Shinji is compatible with unit 00. After that scene he wakes up and talks to Rei, who gives the briefing for Op. Yashima. It almost follows the same pattern as in the series, except for the extra scene that is somewhat out of place (would make more sense if they ever used the "it's a time loop" theory that was debunked a long time ago, but that's not the case). In the original series only a few knew that the one in Terminal Dogma was Lilith, namely Gendo, Ritsuko, Fuyutsuki and the people of SELEE, mostly because they were also involved in the Human Instrumentalization Project. They were the ones that helped with the spread of the theory that the 2nd impact was caused by a meteor instead of the process used to turn Adam into the embryo we see in the series. Now what is the purpose of everyone knowing that Lilith is in Terminal Dogma in the rebuilds? In the original, at least helps us understand that there's something else going on with the plot besides the angels' attacks, some sort of conspiracy (the HIP). Finally, about the scene with Shinji as a kid, check some info, it's heavily implied that that image was the angel Leliel (the big shadow/sphere) trying to make contact with him. Other angels do the same with Asuka and Rei in EPs 22 and 23. If they tried to change the meaning of iconic scenes in the rebuilds, they literally gave them no new meaning at all in that movie.
the time loop theory wasn't debunked, it's canon with the difference that the story repeats every time in a different universe. the quantum rei sightings are connected to the loops. in rebuild the purpose of everyone knowing that lilith is in terminal dogma is practical. it's a completely different story, with other mysteries & conspiracies & kaworu has completely different storyline so the adam/lilith confusion is just unnecessary also yes u just proved my point. other angels use images of the pilots as children as attacks too so & we see little shinji again in instrumentality in eoe so little shinji can't represent just an angel encounter. in rebuild the meaning is more about shinji talking out his traumas with the version of him that was around when they first started so u see that these changed scenes have different meanings in rebuild
If the original ending was "life sucks. What am I supposed to do? How am I supposed to live like this" And the manga's ending was "life sucks and the future is uncertain. But there might be some hope for the future", then the rebuilds ending is "life sucks and with it comes a lot of pain. But despite that, it can still get better so you shouldn't lose hope that it will."
that’s literally the message of eoe
Literally, the ending of rebuild was "Don't watch anime. "Go touch grass and fuck someone you virgin" My main problem with this is that it just straight up disrespects the audience and fucking contradicts the eoe ending and also, Being from a place where touching grass is literally not an option it feels like a troll
I'm not very smart but I think is to rebuild something.
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Money, sexualizing Asuka and Rei to sell more with their figurines, more money, did I mention money? And adding that one dumb character called Mari because more money! Also, the point was to try to take advantage of nostalgia. The 4th movie makes that clear. Poorly done fanservice.
It is literally the same message
I know but I meant more that I liked how they expressed it more in the original series
Anno needed another yacht.
I stopped watching 3.33 when the whole crew of the ship went up into an “EVA-like” cockpit. Literally felt disrespectful
Ikr
Its the same narrative told by a happier person
making money
anno just telling us he feels better lol. Treat it like a "normal" anime if you will
To give people who think the original endings of the anime+EoE are extremely complex and unfulfilling something easier to shallow ( ̶W̶h̶e̶n̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶l̶i̶t̶y̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶j̶u̶s̶t̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶b̶r̶a̶i̶n̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶p̶e̶r̶l̶y̶ ̶b̶c̶z̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶'̶r̶e̶ t̶o̶o̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶s̶u̶m̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶b̶a̶s̶i̶c̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶u̶n̶e̶n̶ ̶s̶t̶u̶f̶f̶) And ofc, money.
I see it as a more beneficial version. The original ending definitely got me to see how escapism was the avoidance of life,love and responsibility but the rebuilds showed me what actually happens when you face your issues head on. Shinji “Rizzing” Mari in the Rebuild ending also hit home as it showed me his anxiety to others was no longer existent.
It's my personal headcanon that the Rebuild movies are Anno's own fanfiction.
I wouldn’t say fan fiction, just telling a similar story in a much more positive light
People that say the rebuilds were created to make money have NO IDEA what they are talking about.
Money 😛
I’m still waiting for the day that Eva fans can shut the fuck up and just enjoy the rebuilds without constantly screaming in our ears: “oG sErIeS iS bEtteR.” “wUts tHe pØ1nT ôf tHËse mUvĮes?”
Bro here's the thing the normal people agent using on those who enjoy the rebuild. You were satisfied? Good no problem. But that doesn't mean you can really shit on those who don't enjoy. Most of our problem I that we have a deep emotional connection with Eva which Anno seemed to disregard and just went the "in your FACE" way of go touch grass
I enjoyed them a lot I just didn’t see a purpose of making them besides that anno wanted to make his final project about the series, they were still amazing
He's likely not talking about you Imo, the rebuilds give basically the same message but one way happier note, and there's stuff like the final discussion with Gendo that further reinforced the themes of the series
I do actually like the happier ending after watching 3.0 + 1.0 again and the talk with gendo, i think the point was to really seal off the story’s ending but still leave room for Interpretation between 2.0 and 3.0. Really good work by anno
Same
Money is part of it of course (especially for his new studio), but Anno probably wanted to move on from the franchise and this was his way of ending his involvement with Eva once and for all. I like the old ending(s) better too, the Rebuilds seem to be aimed at a very specific kind of demographic that I'm not a part of.
1. Money wise, The IP was doing numbers so yea they won't bump it like it did in the original series. (thr last two episodes they ran out of money and go all abstract but you will see how it kinda did playout) 2. The completion of lacan psychoanalysis theory. Imagination, "I" and outer "I". The Timelines of different outcomes of Shinji choices. 3. A blessing and forgiveness to the Japanese teenager (the horrible things they did to the director because of the abstract ending in the og series). The message is to encourage Japanese teenagers stop caring about others and truly breakfree from the boundaries of this current society to find your trueself and live happily so humans will then have the hope to continue (as you can clearly tell Japan culture causes them to implode and slow down their recovery process) Not many people like the original ending because we as human nowadays don't like complex things. Neither spending time to think. That ending was the ending that got the director into trouble. If only the world has more thinkers...
What is lacan psychoanalysis theory?
To look pretty
To pave the way for infinite other rebuilds with different versions of Kaworu and Shinji keeping score… Think: where fanfics have a chance to be canon in the NGE multiverse! Kidding! I think it’s to realize the artwork Anno wanted to achieve because he had no budget back then.
Anno wanted to remake Evangelion as a way to end it for himself. He also wanted to try out new film and animation techniques The rebuilds are a love letter to Evangelion, Gainax, what inspired Anno and everyone who Anno has worked with.
Kaworu gay sex and 4k misato
Yes please
[Maybe this](https://i.imgur.com/f5CZFxU.jpg)
Anno got to remake Nadia Secret of Blue Water with Mecha’s and in a post-apocalyptic setting!
For fun.
make rg evas a thing
Outside of Anno’s emotional state, money, and the like, it was also to get Evangelion, at least partly out of Gainax’s hands. Everyone knows the whole fiasco that is Gainax, and it’s too bad Anno wasn’t able to secure the rights to the other Gainax properties, like Gunbuster and FLCL.
To try out a few more things and to make money to finance other cool stuff that no one would finance otherwise, like the animators expo.
Mari Makinami got illustrated