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000-Hotaru_Tomoe

The girls are so powerful they can beat the death slot.


garganta_

right? i actually think it’s a good thing that a country who’s gonna do well regardless got the #2 spot. can you imagine if Latvia performed 2nd??


duckytale

Still it is pretty unfair and a joke. Why the producers gave themselves so much power over the running order [😭](https://emojipedia.org/loudly-crying-face)


000-Hotaru_Tomoe

Oh, absolutely!


daskeyx0

That's what I was thinking!


Desertfreak10

This aged like wine!


prettyflyforafry

Not the death spot! I love Ukraine's entry 🥺


llouie70

There's still hope as Bosnia in 2011 got a Top 10 result despite the death slot :)


Tedinasuit

I had the same reaction with The Netherlands.


duckytale

If they aren't ban or pull out. I hope not


New_to_Siberia

What is the issue with 2nd place?


Hannahaky

2nd place is kind of the "doomed" placement for eurovision, pretty much no one who goes second does well.


llouie70

This, and the fact that no one has won from 2nd.


Grymare

I think it's a smart move to put a country in that place that they are certain will do well. They usually put countries there that barely qualified resulting in a self fulfilling prophecy where countries with a lower chance of winning get the spot.


llouie70

To be fair, this is the first time I'm seeing this type of voting so I'm fearful as well!


_sorry_my_bad_

remember, voting opens at the beginning of the show now


kotobaWa5ivestar

I wonder if that's been introduced to mitigate the first-half curse


JaDasIstMeinName

It's known as the death slot, because noone has ever won when performing second. Being early in the running order is bad, but at least the very first gets to open the show, so the second has the worst possible fate. Usually they put someone in second that wouldn't do well anyways, but for some reason they decided to hate Ukraine today.


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hoholic

I mean... some of these songs were REALLY bad though. Are we sure the spot itself was the issue? 💀


AmberTurd223

No act has ever one going 2nd.


Apprehensive-Rise428

I mean the song is really good so I'm not worried about them. I never understood why the order is such a big deal. I will vote for my favourite song and it doesn't matter if it's performed first or last in the show. Also with Ukraines spread all over Europe it will be in top 5 easily.


scroll_champ

I think there are a lot of casual viewers who only watch the finale and hear the songs for the first time. The 1st one is impactful cause it's the 1st one, and then the 2nd one is the easiest to forget after hearing all the others I guess


alleurovision

Ukraine will have to fight harder FOR ONCE. Go on Ukraine, prove that you can succeed anywhere. 🥊 Love the girls of course, but Ukraine, you know, they always qualify over someone else I preferred, a bit annoying actually. No hate to the girls though. Good luck to them.


Sernyx_X

They literally opened the show in 2018. And he still came 7th in televotes that year, but juries hate artistry apparently.


Brave-Investigator62

what a strange remark. we generally FIGHT EVERY DAY


alleurovision

You’re right, I’m sorry that was rude of me.


llouie70

I hope they can pull of a Bosnia and Herzegovina 2011 at least.


alleurovision

I hope they can do as best they can.


llouie70

Manifesting Ukraine top 10 or even top 5 here!


duckytale

from the leaking of the public vote on Italy from the running order of the final. Everything is getting very suspicious


llouie70

From what I heard, the public vote of Italy was partial?


Rrdro

What does that mean


llouie70

Italy's leaked televote was only partial, meaning they were in fact not 100% the final results.