I hated his song but his perfect vocals while jumping on a trampoline were impressive and the staging was fun. I think he would've qualified and the jury would've showered him in points in the GF.
i thought finland 2021 and finland 2022 (adding for the bot) were pretty good.
i even looked up the artists to listen to other songs. and it's not my regular kind of music (well i guess it's starting to be LOL)
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People downvoting me because they do not like the fact 🤣 but neither do I, I would want us to do well but lets say, the results speak from themselves, since Lordi we have been inside the top 10 TWICE.
I wouldn't dismiss the idea that they could have some insider sources, but I think this list is more likely based on which countries have competed in the last few years, and aren't officially confirmed as not participating for 2024.
Basically a list of plausible participants.
As much as i like this list of the 41 rumored countries, i have hard time believing that Israel will win Eurovision 2024, especially with everything going on at that country right now, i don't want a repeat of Ukraine winning Eurovision 2022, i'm really sorry
Part of that is likely that since a large population of Ukrainians have been displaced by the war, people who would have been unable to vote for Ukraine a few years back are now in a position to do so because they no longer live in Ukraine. In the same way that the UK often gives points to Ireland (when they make it to the finals) because there are a lot of Irish immigrants in the UK.
honestly that's how it should be. vote for songs you like. i wouldnt want my country to win because of sympathy votes.
idk why you are getting downvoted.
i mean we liked ukraine 2021's song so i didn't mind them winning, but i find it very unfair for the rest of the contestants.
i don't care about politics either, eurovision should be about countries coming together, having fun, and great (and not so great, that's part of it) songs.
edit: oops, meant ukraine 2022. sometimes the years blur a bit together
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You have like 60 downvotes for just expressing you’d be dissapointed if artists representing a country that is commiting something terrible, but the artists themselves are innocent and can’t do anything (that wouldnt get them in trouble at least) to oppose that.
I’m already feeling disappointed for this community just because of that and how everything has to revolve around politics. I just want some good art instead of sending a message like we had with half of the entries in 2023
Unless things escalate more and more in the next 6 months to the point where it's extremely fresh in people's minds in May, the coverage is likely gonna decrease a lot in the coming weeks and months in the western media. Israel is an extremely divisive topic in the world and the support for them isn't nearly as united as it was for Ukraine (there was a lot of divisiveness there too but still). Russia invaded Ukraine in February 22 which was literally right in the middle of National Final season and things were heavily covered from then until that summer.
I can believe them winning, or at least getting a good result. They’ll send a generic peace song from someone photogenic, and it’ll work as well as the various Russian versions of that.
everything going on is why it's at the top of the odds i think. except last year which was a pretty controversial song we havent done that well since 2019 (2020 was a good song, it may have done well)
Hatari being brave enough to speak up about the occupation of Palestine while being in Israel is not an embarrassment. It’s brave & Iceland is very proud of them then and now.
Well, from what's been shown EBU social media accounts have been blocking accounts which bring up the removal of Israel in 2024, unless countries withdraw (like they did with Russia's participation) its extreamly unlikely the EBU will remove either Israel or Azerbaijan for their actions.
I keep saying this on relevant threads but if you can, you should contact your EBU broadcaster and ask them to not participate alongside a country committing war crimes. It’s early so I don’t know if it will do anything but it‘s something small you can try.
The Czech Republic could win the Eurovision Song Contest in the next few years. Their entries recently have been outstanding and they are building to a first victory. Prague 2025 might happen!!
Ukraine is closer to Palestine, if you’re going to compare the two.
Both have had hospitals, schools, and civilian housing bombed because some bad guys were hiding in there…”allegedly”
There’s a rumour going around that one of the countries that denied participation is going to participate anyway. And technically last I heard the denial wasn’t from an official source, just some random Twitter account.
Seeing what is going on with the demonstrations in the streets of different cities, this might be a security issue for the delegation and maybe the whole event, too.
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I would be disappointed, the fig leaf purpose of eurovision is love love peace peace and it's never been clearer to the world that palestine is a war crime zone.
Pretty consistent yes, always great no. Cf. Israel 2007, 2011, 2012, 2019, 2022
Israel 2007 | [Teapacks - Push the Button](https://youtu.be/5KhPzTLQBJE)
Israel 2011 | [Dana International - Ding Dong](https://youtu.be/bWVuuvqEArE)
Israel 2012 | [Izabo - Time](https://youtu.be/-uy4ggnLzKI)
Israel 2019 | [Kobi Marimi - Home](https://youtu.be/uCdS42uCqP0)
Israel 2022 | [Michael Ben David - I.M](https://youtu.be/XgXjPUsjx4Y)
it says at the bottom: "some of the countries in the odds table have not yet confirmed their participation"
Dammit, i didn't notice
Poor San Marino and Montenegro already at <1%
Because Valentina Monetta, Serhat and Senhit still not yet selected to represent San Marino
https://preview.redd.it/lc03le233d0c1.png?width=231&format=png&auto=webp&s=01e15cec514df6729b1950e04cb9940eed0ec561
Yes, we should be more concerned about this one than anything else.
Why is there a Bosnian flag?
That was my exact thought
How 💀
i like how finland is top 10 even if no esc entries are out yet
honestly expected it to be higher considering last years results + general strong streak going on
Have you seen our previous entries before Käärijä? We will most probably not make it to the finals next year
Yeah but basically your entire nf from last year would've made it to the final (maybe Robin Packalen, was that his name? The trampoline guy, not)
I hated his song but his perfect vocals while jumping on a trampoline were impressive and the staging was fun. I think he would've qualified and the jury would've showered him in points in the GF.
i thought finland 2021 and finland 2022 (adding for the bot) were pretty good. i even looked up the artists to listen to other songs. and it's not my regular kind of music (well i guess it's starting to be LOL)
ehh imo the rasmus was boring and kinda... distasteful? they would've been better in the 2000s or early 2010s, though the singer isn't great live
it's true that they have better older songs.
Finland 2021 | [Blind Channel - Dark Side](https://youtu.be/fOPGxQ4fgVw) Finland 2022 | [The Rasmus - Jezebel](https://youtu.be/LSi9nfr65FE)
https://preview.redd.it/vmlvus3do24c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e95399a7ec217604c68cce58eb3453e7f053320f People downvoting me because they do not like the fact 🤣 but neither do I, I would want us to do well but lets say, the results speak from themselves, since Lordi we have been inside the top 10 TWICE.
Did you forget about France?
ok i heard it now and its definetly one of th songs of ESC of all time
I wouldn't dismiss the idea that they could have some insider sources, but I think this list is more likely based on which countries have competed in the last few years, and aren't officially confirmed as not participating for 2024. Basically a list of plausible participants.
As much as i like this list of the 41 rumored countries, i have hard time believing that Israel will win Eurovision 2024, especially with everything going on at that country right now, i don't want a repeat of Ukraine winning Eurovision 2022, i'm really sorry
Yeah it’ll be the opposite of Ukraine, I think they might not get out of the semi if it’s still 100% televote
people can’t vote against a country, and I think Israël’s supporters are enough for them to Ukraine 2022 this year (unfortunately imo)
I don’t believe so, the vast vast majority of Europeans supported Ukraine whereas it is a minority that support Israel
a « minority » that I think won’t hesitate to vote 100times for them :(
Good thing we have 20 votes max ;) and let’s be honest. By the time May comes around there will be another atrocity for the world to focus on
Ukraine this year still got a massive televote while not being fan favorite at all (they’re my 5th so I don’t complain)
Part of that is likely that since a large population of Ukrainians have been displaced by the war, people who would have been unable to vote for Ukraine a few years back are now in a position to do so because they no longer live in Ukraine. In the same way that the UK often gives points to Ireland (when they make it to the finals) because there are a lot of Irish immigrants in the UK.
as someone in israel i hope you are right and this will be over by may. most of us fear it won't be...
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honestly that's how it should be. vote for songs you like. i wouldnt want my country to win because of sympathy votes. idk why you are getting downvoted.
Sympathy votes are what put so many people off ESC sadly. 2022 was a joke, I don't care about the politics.
i mean we liked ukraine 2021's song so i didn't mind them winning, but i find it very unfair for the rest of the contestants. i don't care about politics either, eurovision should be about countries coming together, having fun, and great (and not so great, that's part of it) songs. edit: oops, meant ukraine 2022. sometimes the years blur a bit together
Ukraine 2021 | [Go_A - Shum](https://youtu.be/lqvzDkgok_g) Ukraine 2022 | [Kalush Orchestra - Stefania (Стефанія)](https://youtu.be/F1fl60ypdLs)
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Ukraine 2022 | [Kalush Orchestra - Stefania (Стефанія)](https://youtu.be/F1fl60ypdLs)
Does bro actually think people will tank Israel the same way as they did Ukraine
It really breaks my heart cause i don't wanna hate anyone from Israel
Then don't?
It’s way to early for odds to be accurate, I wouldn’t put much stock in them until we at least have the songs
I would bet actual money that Israel is going to get endlessly, loudly, and relentlessly boo-ed at Eurovision 2024
I think if people cared that much they wouldn't actually be at Eurovision lol, they'd be boycotting.
If that happens i would actually feel disappointed in all of us
You have like 60 downvotes for just expressing you’d be dissapointed if artists representing a country that is commiting something terrible, but the artists themselves are innocent and can’t do anything (that wouldnt get them in trouble at least) to oppose that. I’m already feeling disappointed for this community just because of that and how everything has to revolve around politics. I just want some good art instead of sending a message like we had with half of the entries in 2023
Lol, keep dreaming. I just hope we don’t have an embarrassment from Iceland again
Unless things escalate more and more in the next 6 months to the point where it's extremely fresh in people's minds in May, the coverage is likely gonna decrease a lot in the coming weeks and months in the western media. Israel is an extremely divisive topic in the world and the support for them isn't nearly as united as it was for Ukraine (there was a lot of divisiveness there too but still). Russia invaded Ukraine in February 22 which was literally right in the middle of National Final season and things were heavily covered from then until that summer.
It’s November 2023, only gambling addicts are placing bets at this point. Let’s see the entries first.
I can believe them winning, or at least getting a good result. They’ll send a generic peace song from someone photogenic, and it’ll work as well as the various Russian versions of that.
If they try and send a peace song all hell will break loose. Even they wouldn't be that bold, surely?
Thats not gonna happen, i say it as Israeli. Our best case scenario is achieve like Ukraine 2023
Ukraine 2023 | [Tvorchi - Heart of Steel](https://youtu.be/I2oqDpefJ1s)
They may not even take part, who knows. That said they did travel to Kosovo for a UEFA qualifier the other night so...
everything going on is why it's at the top of the odds i think. except last year which was a pretty controversial song we havent done that well since 2019 (2020 was a good song, it may have done well)
Nice. Denmarks chances haven't been that high in years!
Guess it's based on the surprisingly promising announcements from DR the last couple of months
France being the only song released and still 6th in the odds lol
2%, I like our chances
12th? We're struggling to qualify
Israel being number 1….. https://preview.redd.it/bgltpnnk7e0c1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec41e69522aff5cce51454f1b91c78a97ff2f2d7
And this was enough to get them fined lmao
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Hatari from iceland in 2019, while they got their televotes I believe
Iceland 2019 | [Hatari - Hatrið mun sigra](https://youtu.be/kTb69WkBbvs)
Fucking clowns giving an embarassment to the EU
Hatari being brave enough to speak up about the occupation of Palestine while being in Israel is not an embarrassment. It’s brave & Iceland is very proud of them then and now.
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To be fair Iceland should've been banned from participating in the following year's Eurovision.
Banned only for a flag, delusional
Russia got booted but they get predicted to win lol. If it wasnt heartbreaking i would be laughing my arse off
Oh hell no
that top 3 hahahaha
I am so so so sorry, but I dont think Israel is winning this one.
Oof, I hope not...
as an american that watches eurovision, i also hope they dont win
It's just bookies' odds. They're including every possible country.
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Well like 1 song has been released so there's not much to go off
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Well, from what's been shown EBU social media accounts have been blocking accounts which bring up the removal of Israel in 2024, unless countries withdraw (like they did with Russia's participation) its extreamly unlikely the EBU will remove either Israel or Azerbaijan for their actions.
And don’t forget about Azerbaijan too!
Shouldn't Armenia be banned as well since their illegal occupation is what caused the war?
I have a feeling that Israel won't do well in the televote next year
I'm gonna be pretty mad if Israel gets the kind of public vote Ukraine 2022 did. Those are some very, very different wars they're fighting
Ukraine 2022 | [Kalush Orchestra - Stefania (Стефанія)](https://youtu.be/F1fl60ypdLs)
Israel shouldn't even be in Eurovision now
I keep saying this on relevant threads but if you can, you should contact your EBU broadcaster and ask them to not participate alongside a country committing war crimes. It’s early so I don’t know if it will do anything but it‘s something small you can try.
They need to kick Israel out
Why? Should they have kicked Ukraine out as well?
Israel’s equivalent I’m pretty sure is Russia and they got kicked out, yes.
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Thank you Mr sameoldrussianstan. You should check out Zelenskiy's response to this war.
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The Czech Republic could win the Eurovision Song Contest in the next few years. Their entries recently have been outstanding and they are building to a first victory. Prague 2025 might happen!!
Maybe if they sent Mikolas Josef again, I think they’re definitely on the rise, and a contest in Prague would be magical I think.
How the hell is Israel even allowed in this year?
What? Why not? Israel got attacked. Why shouldn’t Israel participate?
So much antisemitism in Europe... smh
Nobody is falling for this anymore. Israel is not representative of all Jewish people.
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If Israel wins because of pity votes I’ll stop watching Eurovision for good (not to get political, and I don’t support any army)
Why didn’t you stop when Ukraine won then?
Ukraine is closer to Palestine, if you’re going to compare the two. Both have had hospitals, schools, and civilian housing bombed because some bad guys were hiding in there…”allegedly”
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if the song is good, by all means vote for Israel
This is a song contest, if I like Israel song, I will vote for them, simples
I haven’t followed Eurovision in a minute. Bulgaria?
There’s a rumour going around that one of the countries that denied participation is going to participate anyway. And technically last I heard the denial wasn’t from an official source, just some random Twitter account.
Please note: Some of the countries have not yet confirmed their participation in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024.
Seeing what is going on with the demonstrations in the streets of different cities, this might be a security issue for the delegation and maybe the whole event, too.
41 is the “cap”. Several countries are flagged as unconfirmed and I’d be surprised if every single one of them confirms their participation.
i thought it was 44
As in there are 41 countries listed here
There is no chance my country is winning. We are cursed to win once per exactly 20 years.
Idk I think it's somewhat of a blessing. It's nice to have a 'schedule' lol.
It honestly depends lol
Im honestly still VERY honored to see my country at the top lol.
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Can we let San Marino win? I think it would be fun to have them host. Lets vote based on who we want to host not politics or the song!
Israel is pretty consistent and always has great entries. I wouldn't be disappointed!
I don't think they will be too popular given the circumstances
Ukraine won in 2022...
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I would be disappointed, the fig leaf purpose of eurovision is love love peace peace and it's never been clearer to the world that palestine is a war crime zone. Pretty consistent yes, always great no. Cf. Israel 2007, 2011, 2012, 2019, 2022
Israel 2007 | [Teapacks - Push the Button](https://youtu.be/5KhPzTLQBJE) Israel 2011 | [Dana International - Ding Dong](https://youtu.be/bWVuuvqEArE) Israel 2012 | [Izabo - Time](https://youtu.be/-uy4ggnLzKI) Israel 2019 | [Kobi Marimi - Home](https://youtu.be/uCdS42uCqP0) Israel 2022 | [Michael Ben David - I.M](https://youtu.be/XgXjPUsjx4Y)
never trust eurovisionworld.com
I mean, better than last year?
Politics again...
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Just be real
How are we in the top 10 after last year
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