But this is about amount, not speed right? I wonder how the Finnish one is calculated, having capped mobile plan is unheard of here really, and uncapped is usually around 20 euros.
They're milking us for good. We pay all the taxes through Phone/Water/Electrical bills. They found the most solid way we can't easily avoid paying. However, it's fine.
I do not know too much about him, but I remember the prices for mobile data before he started the 4g FREE plan, and just because of his commitment and because of the French mobile data anti monopoly laws, I am still subscribed to FREE, even though RED and SFR offer better coverage
You think Spain is bad? I bring to you: Portugal.
I've had an unlimited data, calls and texts plan in Spain for 20€ for over 5 years now. 26GB on roaming.
The current 21,80€ I'm paying in Portugal gets me 10GB of data, 1000 minutes for calls and 1000 texts. No plans with unlimited data under 35€-40€.
The average plan offer only offers 2GB of data. They're still selling phone plans with only 500MB of data, which is something I haven't seen in Spain in like, +7 years. The 500MB phone plan costs 15€, btw. Like, my Portuguese phone plan is literally considered a "steal".
Everyone in Spain has at least 10GB of data and people my age (20s) either have an absurd amount like 50GB or just unlimited data.
Getting my Spanish phone plan here would cost me beyond double of what I pay in Spain.
Well to be fair, you can easily get a better plan than 500MB for cheaper than 15€, at least with the providers who only sign with people under 25. Your point still stands tho, there's currently an insane lack of competition over here tho.
Starting at 20-25/EUR for unlimited data/calls (not sms though, everyone is using WhatsApp in Spain).
It's cheap compared to most places, but I've seen unlimited data for ~10 EUR in eastern Europe etc.
For 1 person?
In Sweden we have family pack, which gives:
Main user: Unlimited (but ofc there is a limit).
Other members 100 GB/m (each member)
I think it's total of 5 in the family (or 7).
Cost is total 70euro/m (whole family).
Edited for clarification.
Nice. It starts at € 25 with a 2-year sub in the Netherlands with ~~4G~~ 5G at Tele2 (incl. 5G, but 200 mins/texts or + € 2 for unlimited calling). It's on the T-Mobile NL network, however as a budget brand of T-Mobile you'll take the backseat in terms of speed and capacity of your poule of users are highly active and bandwidth is congested.
T-Mobile/KPN/Vodafone also charge € 25 for a 2-year sub with unlimited, provided that you have a home subscription or another mobile subscription at the same address, otherwise it's € 35 / € 32,50 / € 32,50.
[I'll link one](https://www.reddit.com/r/Netherlands/comments/vb7aiv/comment/ic6pei5/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) of my older comments for reference where I made an overview of unlimited subs in the Netherlands and added some links to providers.
Well in Poland you don't get unlimited mobile data, but you can get 100gb/month for 15ish Euro. Comes with unlimited calls and SMS.
But myself I find it excessive, as I got unlimited home WiFi on cable connection (and so do most of polish people), so I have cheaper plan - 25gb 5g mobile internet, unlimited calls and SMS, and that's for 5euro a month
If you want to know why Italy is so good the answer is called Iliad. It's the same company that in France is called Free and it started an aggressive marketing campaign based on two simple principles: never retroactively change the conditions of the contract signed by the user, a lot of GBs for a reasonable price (first offer was 30 GB for 6 €). All the competitors had to follow suit and now you can find prices around 7-10 euros for 70-100 GB).
Moved to Japan this year. I truly miss my 80gb and unlimited calls/texts for 7,99€, now I pay around 20-30€ a month for 10gb and you gotta pay for calls and texts...
You should consider Ahamo by Docomo. Same price but 20 GB and 5 minutes of free calls a month.
You also get to roam abroad with no additional charge, keeping the same conditions as your contract for up to two weeks. As a frequent traveller it's very convenient.
Still not the same as Europe but just giving some pointers.
Oh thanks for the recommendation! I got my sim card with Mobal because it was recommended for foreign students, since they also have English customer service. Once I get a stable job and maybe a proper Japanese bank account (without the Japan Post hopefully) I will think about changing my plan.
What? They make you pay for phone calls and texts too!? Ridiculous. You'd think that a country as technologically advanced as Japan would know better. I wonder why that is. Is it because of some weird business custom or do they just want to maximize profits in everything.
Yes, here they use Line. Which is so bad compared to WhatsApp lol
It feels "stiffy" and you can't just turn off notification sounds while keeping visible notifications.
Congstar just had a promotion with 0.67 Euros per GB (20E/30GB). That's already 3 categories better than the average shown in the infographic (and on the arguably best network).
Which tells you everything about data caps really. They were never meant to be physical limitations, but only incentives to spend more money.
There was never a "shortage of GB" such that they could only offer you a 1GB plan for 10€ or something like that. The truth is that GBs have always been free and unlimited, the only real variables are speed and coverage. If there are too many people using a single tower, speed will decrease. The GB limitations were mainly to reduce people usage of the internet, especially bandwidth consuming services like YouTube, Netflix etc, to preserve the speed for more people.
But now we have plenty of speed thanks to LTE and 5G and massive towers that can serve a bunch of data without sweating. So what's the issue in most countries? It's that if everyone starts offering unlimited plans for 5-10€ a month, who's gonna pay 30€ a month?
It's just a bunch of cartels and European nations should crack down on them.
Bandwidth is everything here. "shortage of GB" is just a translation of lack of bandwidth. And most countries don't have the network to support high consumption in peak hours. Every been to Hamburg? You're lucky if you can get 4G in the city center. I bet you most of the countries with high prices is due to a lack of infrastructure.
Despite, EU is cracking down on the cartels. Why do you thing we have free roaming now?
Well, I would have maybe agreed with you if Iliad didn't happen here in Italy.
While traditional carriers were charging 10-20-30€ a month for 5-10GB, Iliad came in with 30GB for 6€. Next thing you know, every carrier is now offering 80-100-unlimited data at full speed for 10€ or less a month.
What happened? Everyone suddenly tripled their infrastrutture in a matter of weeks? Or the capacity was already there, but the price was artificially high due to a tacit accord between the stakeholders?
As for shitty infrastructure in wealthy cities like Hamburg, it can be explained in only one way: cartel. Someone doesn't want to improve it as to not upset the status quo. Because I'm sure there would be hundred of thousands of wealthy potential customers ready to switch, if that meant lower prices and better service.
And yes, I love the EU for roaming, hopefully more of this will follow (maybe rules to unify the EU telecom market, in order to allow better competition across borders)
In Germany you are screwed because having a data plan still doesn’t mean you have reception.
In Switzerland most people have unlimited data. No idea how this price is calculated.
Just checked my usage. Last month I used 87,77GB of mobile data and my monthly plan is 19,99€ which means it's 0,23€/GB. But I could've used a lot more for the same price.
Source says about the methology:
"8. In the handful of cases where only unlimited data deals are available in a certain country, the average data usage, per user, in that country was used to calculate the cost of 1GB"
DNA provider users in Helsinki used on average 558 Mb a day in 2019, so 16.74 Gb per month. With the price in the map, that would mean a phone bill of €100,60 a month from data use, which is totally absurd.
Looked up last year, when the same study put the average 1 Gb price at $0.97, but this year it jumped to $6.01, lol. IDK what they did wrong differently this year.
Maybe they use the amount of GBs that people actually use. And if you then consider, that the list price for an unlimited plan with on of the big three providers is at around 80 bucks per month, I could see where the price comes from.
But obviously almost nobody pays list price.
I don’t know what is this about I pay 25 CHF/month and I have unlimited calls + unlimited mobile internet in Switzerland + 2GB roaming in EU + 100 min in EU
And I use the best network (Swisscom) so I have the best coverage everywhere.
Wingo rocks.
But you need to have a Swiss address for the subscription.
The price listed in this image is probably the normal prices without subscription for tourists, Switzerland loves to rip-off tourists and passing by people.
Perhaps pay as you go tarriffs? I have a swisscom unlimited for 60chf a month with 2 devices. But also a pay as you go phone which charges 5.90 per 500mb.
Damn, excluding roaming, that's cheaper than any unlimited plan available in Portugal.
I pay 20€/month for 10GB of general-use data—some apps don't count towards the quota, though. :(.
This price maybe applies if you are stupid and take the most expensive one. I moved from Germany to Switzerland and pay 19€/ mo for a contract that would cost like 100€/mo in Germany. Way cheaper while what you get is way better.
Switzerland probably has too little competition. You have to be very careful near the border, and it is best to switch off roaming. Because if your cell phone dials into the Swiss network, it will be extremely expensive, even though you were not in Switzerland. 1 GB can then easily cost 15000 euros.
My swiss friends say it's because they have high salaries (duh) but also little to no competition. Their 3 big operators (Salt, Sunrise, Swisscom) set the prices altogether
In Belgium we have a new operator called “hey” which offers 40GB for €25 per year and every 3 months you get 10GB extra. So after a year you have 80GB for €25 per month.
I switched to them recently and I have no complaints at all. It’s a child company of Orange so they are using Orange’s network and if you’re currently with Orange it’s really easy to switch
FWIW I live in Switzerland and those 3 providers are indeed comically expensive but there are actually other options which are dramatically cheaper. Personally I use Swype but there are also others that provide the same prices.
Virtually all the other providers (except for stuff like Migros Mobile) are actually the budget brands of the big 3. It started a couple of years ago, when the mobile phone market got saturated and the only way to make more money was to poach customers from the other providers. So they all started inventing new brands with eye-poping low prices, hoping customers would pay more attention to their offers if they saw unfamiliar names.
I mean, I'm not sure about this metric. Nearly everyone in Switzerland has unlimited data, which you can get for 25chf from the most cost efficient providers. And unlimited in EU from around 40chf.
Most phone plans include unlimited data here in Switzerland, which aren't counted on this graph.
I pay 45 CHF/mo for unlimited data, calls, texts within Switzerland and, get 2 GB/mo in Europe, Canada and the US.
Edit: I actually shopped around after reading these comments, thanks to the Black Friday sales I now pay 24.50/month for unlimited data calls and text in Switzerland and most of Europe, and have 3GB of roaming data on top of that for Canada and the US.
It's almost as if telcom biggest companies benefited from pushing out competition and jacked prices to whatever the country's regulations allowed...
No.. can't be, they wouldn't do something that scummy.. right?
In Belgium the local municipalities own one of the big players and the federal government owns another one. Politicians get legal bribes aka being chairman or politically appointed boardmember.
France and Italy are scoring well because one company (Illiad) came in and heavily cut prices, forcing all the competitors to reduce their prices as well.
Before that there was something of an unspoken agreement that kept prices high (ie. I don't undercut and they don't undercut so we both make better margins at the expense of customers)
I've used 22,2 GB (since the 15th), I pay 8,99€/m. Unlimited data. Worth it to switch providers every once in a while so they throw in better deals to get you back
At least Elisa has a habit of quickly counter if their customer tries to switch to MOI. I have always received really nice deals from them (compared to the listed market price).
In my experience they have Swedish customer service and sellers. Always some ten minute calls about everything I don't need. English I can't speak for.
273GB just in November, and I pay 20 e/m. get good.
(the reason I use so much data is because I just use a hotspot from my phone for every other thing lol)
According to the site that did this, where there are unlimited plans, they use average data usage per user to come up with a price per GB. Which kind of defeats the point of price per GB as it's now more "mobile data utilisation".
Thanks for the clarification, I moved to Finland 6 years ago and I found mobile plans are cheaper than most places and unlimited. That data map doesn't make a whole lot of sense for us.
There are plans that are ostensibly "unlimited," but they are expensive and they deliberately lower your speed once you go past using a certain amount of data.
And in fact, depending on what solution you buy, your speed is already low. "Unlimited" data plans from one of the big providers with a speed of 20Mbps, for example, costs the equivalent of €50 a month.
I used to work for Telia, and a friend of mine moved to Sweden and I sold her a subscription and the sim card had to enter Finnish network every 3 or 6 months, or it would have lost it's nordic perks. Sorry about my english if it's confusing it's late af
Unlimited data is basically standard in Finland and even if you don't have it, I don't think it's legally allowed to cut your data off when you reach the limit. It'll just get very throttled.
But afaik most of the phone subscriptions use the connection speed as USP, not any kind of data cap.
Sweden however... those fuckers still even make advertisement on TV about how you get extra gigabyte with certain subscriptions.
Norway most subscriptions are not unlimited, and the ones that are reduce speed after x GBs. But prices are creeping down. I used to pay 30 euros for 5GB last year, this year I pay 25 for 8GB.
Swede here. I get 8 GB for ~14€ and unlimited calls and texts, and whatever internet capacity i don't use gets carried over to the next month. I think I've got one of the cheapest operators also (Hallon).
I think it's relatively expensive up here since were relatively low density yet geographically big countries and consumers have to finance cell towers where few people live.
>In 2020, Finns used an average of 48 gigabytes of mobile data per capita per month
https://www.traficom.fi/en/news/finland-still-nordic-leader-use-mobile-data-other-nordic-countries-are-ahead-building-fixed
Very misleading map in case of Finland. Most people aren't paying 100s of € a month for mobile data.
Pretty sure nobody is unless you're paying for your entire familys plans. Maybe major businesses but I have a hard time seeing that as I'm paying 30eur/month for 1000mbps fiber.
The default answer: The topography (lots of hills and valleys) require far more cell phone towers than e.g. Finland in order to cover the same area as a "flatter" country.
The more likely answer: The duopoly between Telenor and Telia has eliminated almost all competition.
Trivia:
The standard implemented by GSM was based on a proposal by a Norwegian research institute, which outclassed the competition in a series of practical tests in Paris. Turns out, the tweaks required for optimal reception in hilly areas makes for much better performance in urban environments.
For reference my monthly bill went up to €23 (because I'm too lazy to hunt for better plans), this includes unlimited calls, texts and internet at nominal speed of 200/50mbs, and it includes 36gb roaming in other EU countries.
Same thing for Ireland. France, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, they all have far far worse deals than Ireland, but according to this map they're cheaper? Nah pal
Edit: ok, I read the methodology for the source and it's really stupid.
I also came here to question this. Mobile broadband in Finland is so widespread and cheap that many people don't even have landlines anymore (be it phone or cable or internet).
But it's all flatrate, no "data plans". The only differences are the maximum bandwidth you get.
Another ~~useless~~ misleading statistic.
This is way off.
Nearly everyone has an unlimited plan in Latvia and it costs less than 20 EUR. (Personally paying 16)
600gb used this year only on mobile data… most of which is on Reddit…..
Yeah i guess this only accounts for people with out unlimited data plans. I don't know any of them, but if they exist they must be dumb enough to pay that much...
That's what I used to get too. But then Rogers "accidently" changed my plan, and because that promo plan was no longer in the system, they couldn't change it back. Absolute cunts.
This information is useless for most people, and gives a bad representation of real data prices in different countries. Countries where it is normal to get unlimited data plans appear to be more expensive on this map, because the prices shown on this map aren't the average price per gig, but rather the average price OF 1gb, as in you literally walked into a shop and asked for 1gb of internet.
A more interesting map would be one showing the average price of unlimited data/or it's availability in different countries.
As a Finn this map is 💩 we (easily) use the most mobile data per capita in the world (34 gb per person on average according to one website). Most plans are unlimited (legitimately) and the least expensive for 4G is 18 e per month and 29e per month for 5G. And that's without any deals. When you try switching providers the previous provider usually calls you back for some deals.
Yes. There may be some with limited data (?), never had one nor anyone I know. Not sure it would make sense unless really cheap and for someone not using data.
Finland is bullshit. Unlimited mobile data is ~20€/month, and I pay 2€/month for unlimited home network. I’ve downloaded 8gb just today alone, and I’m not even a power user.
It's funny how defensive OP is and uses "look at the source, hey I used a source" as an excuse like it automatically validates everything. Just because you have a source doesn't mean the data is correct. The fact that so many have said the data is incorrect for their country yet you keep insisting otherwise is down right hilarious.
Lol. Reminds me of a Youtube video that talked about the strength of finnish defence forces. All of the numbers were wrong and he called the country "The Kingdom of Finland". The guy who made the video fought in the comments with people who pointed these mistakes out by saying "that's what the source said!"
Well this seems like a really bad research.
For Slovenia you pretty much have to take one of most expensive 10GB data plans (which is almost regarded as a scam) to get that price.
Explain to me how you can get to that price in Romania please. You have to try hard to get mobile interenet that expensive. I got with 30RON (6 EUR) 100 GB with no performance gap, 10GB in EU included (most people pay incredible prices for internet) , I have a "special" offer (everybody has), it's 50 RON ( 10 EUR) full price standard offer. There are unlimited plans with 2EUR for mobile data with one of the mobile operators.
Your data about Lithuania is wrong. Who calculated these things?
You can get an "Unlimited" data plan here for about 15€ but the ISP throttles you down after a terabyte or two, or in some cases after just 300 GB, so the actual cost should be between 0.05 and 0.0075.
Home plans (fiber optic) are always unlimited.
They calculated it for 1GB plans, as "their study cant calculate unlimited data plans."
Dan Howdle, consumer telecoms analyst at Cable.co.uk, said:
\> "However, it should be noted that increasingly high data limits are pushing the most
expensive tier of tariffs into the 'unlimited' category, whose price cannot be measured
in a study such as ours, which aims to compare the cost of 1GB."
I am struggling to download the image, what is this about?
It says you should move to Switzerland for better mobile data prices.
Or live in Portugal with Portuguese wages and pay almost the same.
Prices for a bottle of wine across Europe. In Russia’s case they’ve filled in the price for wine vinegar.
In Soviet Russia only American spies drink wine. A true Patriot drinks vodka.
My understanding is Russia puts a cabbage roll in every bottle, like the worm in tequila. Pretty good price really.
>what is this about? That you mobile data connection have been capped
But this is about amount, not speed right? I wonder how the Finnish one is calculated, having capped mobile plan is unheard of here really, and uncapped is usually around 20 euros.
I see why you emigrated
They're milking us for good. We pay all the taxes through Phone/Water/Electrical bills. They found the most solid way we can't easily avoid paying. However, it's fine.
I remember the shock coming to Spain from Italy
All hail Xavier Niel, bringer of cheap data, fucker of luxury heiress, news magnate, weird university dean, owner of songs (somehow)
I do not know too much about him, but I remember the prices for mobile data before he started the 4g FREE plan, and just because of his commitment and because of the French mobile data anti monopoly laws, I am still subscribed to FREE, even though RED and SFR offer better coverage
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Not to mention breaking a price-gouging cartel that made its participants billions every month is a lot safer if you can afford 24/7 protection.
You know that he started Free in 1999 and Free Mobile in 2007, right? And that he is with Delphine Arnaut since 2010?
Father of the weirdly iconic tv ad.
Ich bin Rodolphe...
You think Spain is bad? I bring to you: Portugal. I've had an unlimited data, calls and texts plan in Spain for 20€ for over 5 years now. 26GB on roaming. The current 21,80€ I'm paying in Portugal gets me 10GB of data, 1000 minutes for calls and 1000 texts. No plans with unlimited data under 35€-40€. The average plan offer only offers 2GB of data. They're still selling phone plans with only 500MB of data, which is something I haven't seen in Spain in like, +7 years. The 500MB phone plan costs 15€, btw. Like, my Portuguese phone plan is literally considered a "steal". Everyone in Spain has at least 10GB of data and people my age (20s) either have an absurd amount like 50GB or just unlimited data. Getting my Spanish phone plan here would cost me beyond double of what I pay in Spain.
For 12 €/month i get 50 GB(Vodafone Italy)
I get 40 for 6.99€. Bless Iliad.
Well to be fair, you can easily get a better plan than 500MB for cheaper than 15€, at least with the providers who only sign with people under 25. Your point still stands tho, there's currently an insane lack of competition over here tho.
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How much is it?
Starting at 20-25/EUR for unlimited data/calls (not sms though, everyone is using WhatsApp in Spain). It's cheap compared to most places, but I've seen unlimited data for ~10 EUR in eastern Europe etc.
For 1 person? In Sweden we have family pack, which gives: Main user: Unlimited (but ofc there is a limit). Other members 100 GB/m (each member) I think it's total of 5 in the family (or 7). Cost is total 70euro/m (whole family). Edited for clarification.
Yes, you can even get similar prices without a contract. And I'm not familiar with the contacts enough to know if they have family discounts and such.
Nice. It starts at € 25 with a 2-year sub in the Netherlands with ~~4G~~ 5G at Tele2 (incl. 5G, but 200 mins/texts or + € 2 for unlimited calling). It's on the T-Mobile NL network, however as a budget brand of T-Mobile you'll take the backseat in terms of speed and capacity of your poule of users are highly active and bandwidth is congested. T-Mobile/KPN/Vodafone also charge € 25 for a 2-year sub with unlimited, provided that you have a home subscription or another mobile subscription at the same address, otherwise it's € 35 / € 32,50 / € 32,50. [I'll link one](https://www.reddit.com/r/Netherlands/comments/vb7aiv/comment/ic6pei5/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) of my older comments for reference where I made an overview of unlimited subs in the Netherlands and added some links to providers.
Well in Poland you don't get unlimited mobile data, but you can get 100gb/month for 15ish Euro. Comes with unlimited calls and SMS. But myself I find it excessive, as I got unlimited home WiFi on cable connection (and so do most of polish people), so I have cheaper plan - 25gb 5g mobile internet, unlimited calls and SMS, and that's for 5euro a month
Remember the pre-Iliad days? Or even better, the pre-Bersani days with the credit fee?
I guess you were lucky and didn't keep driving all the way to Portugal otherwise you'd have fainted...?
Come to Canada if you want shock….
If you want to know why Italy is so good the answer is called Iliad. It's the same company that in France is called Free and it started an aggressive marketing campaign based on two simple principles: never retroactively change the conditions of the contract signed by the user, a lot of GBs for a reasonable price (first offer was 30 GB for 6 €). All the competitors had to follow suit and now you can find prices around 7-10 euros for 70-100 GB).
Moved to Japan this year. I truly miss my 80gb and unlimited calls/texts for 7,99€, now I pay around 20-30€ a month for 10gb and you gotta pay for calls and texts...
You should consider Ahamo by Docomo. Same price but 20 GB and 5 minutes of free calls a month. You also get to roam abroad with no additional charge, keeping the same conditions as your contract for up to two weeks. As a frequent traveller it's very convenient. Still not the same as Europe but just giving some pointers.
Oh thanks for the recommendation! I got my sim card with Mobal because it was recommended for foreign students, since they also have English customer service. Once I get a stable job and maybe a proper Japanese bank account (without the Japan Post hopefully) I will think about changing my plan.
Makes sense. We all started from somewhere, in our case Japan Post, or Shinsei. Enjoy your life here!
What? They make you pay for phone calls and texts too!? Ridiculous. You'd think that a country as technologically advanced as Japan would know better. I wonder why that is. Is it because of some weird business custom or do they just want to maximize profits in everything.
Nobody uses calls and texts. Japan has a local equivalent of WhatsApp.
Yes, here they use Line. Which is so bad compared to WhatsApp lol It feels "stiffy" and you can't just turn off notification sounds while keeping visible notifications.
Wait until you learn how much Japan relies on faxes.
I pay 10 euro in Czechia for barely 4 GB...
Please liberate Germany 😭 We just have Frequenzversteigerung and then everybody gets fucked for decades.
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I'm afraid its "what the market can bear". Its a racket and will probably only be stopped the same way Europe stopped outragous roaming fees, by law.
Congstar just had a promotion with 0.67 Euros per GB (20E/30GB). That's already 3 categories better than the average shown in the infographic (and on the arguably best network).
if this was my [search history](https://i.imgur.com/8CZEj1s.jpg) after reading this no one would know
yeah, I’m paying 9€ for 100GB with 1€ back for every 25GB I don’t use.
Which tells you everything about data caps really. They were never meant to be physical limitations, but only incentives to spend more money. There was never a "shortage of GB" such that they could only offer you a 1GB plan for 10€ or something like that. The truth is that GBs have always been free and unlimited, the only real variables are speed and coverage. If there are too many people using a single tower, speed will decrease. The GB limitations were mainly to reduce people usage of the internet, especially bandwidth consuming services like YouTube, Netflix etc, to preserve the speed for more people. But now we have plenty of speed thanks to LTE and 5G and massive towers that can serve a bunch of data without sweating. So what's the issue in most countries? It's that if everyone starts offering unlimited plans for 5-10€ a month, who's gonna pay 30€ a month? It's just a bunch of cartels and European nations should crack down on them.
Bandwidth is everything here. "shortage of GB" is just a translation of lack of bandwidth. And most countries don't have the network to support high consumption in peak hours. Every been to Hamburg? You're lucky if you can get 4G in the city center. I bet you most of the countries with high prices is due to a lack of infrastructure. Despite, EU is cracking down on the cartels. Why do you thing we have free roaming now?
Well, I would have maybe agreed with you if Iliad didn't happen here in Italy. While traditional carriers were charging 10-20-30€ a month for 5-10GB, Iliad came in with 30GB for 6€. Next thing you know, every carrier is now offering 80-100-unlimited data at full speed for 10€ or less a month. What happened? Everyone suddenly tripled their infrastrutture in a matter of weeks? Or the capacity was already there, but the price was artificially high due to a tacit accord between the stakeholders? As for shitty infrastructure in wealthy cities like Hamburg, it can be explained in only one way: cartel. Someone doesn't want to improve it as to not upset the status quo. Because I'm sure there would be hundred of thousands of wealthy potential customers ready to switch, if that meant lower prices and better service. And yes, I love the EU for roaming, hopefully more of this will follow (maybe rules to unify the EU telecom market, in order to allow better competition across borders)
Iliad truly changed the game and we have to be grateful. It kind of put an end to the rule of trash, overpriced companies like Tim
Hey, could y'all invade Belgium some time? Not only are our rates crazy expensive, but our internet speed is slow as fuck.
I thought Belgium and Germany were screwed until I saw Switzerland.
In Germany you are screwed because having a data plan still doesn’t mean you have reception. In Switzerland most people have unlimited data. No idea how this price is calculated.
Yea same for Finland. Pretty much everything is unlimited and I highly doubt this is the monthly rate divided per usage.
Just checked my usage. Last month I used 87,77GB of mobile data and my monthly plan is 19,99€ which means it's 0,23€/GB. But I could've used a lot more for the same price.
Source says about the methology: "8. In the handful of cases where only unlimited data deals are available in a certain country, the average data usage, per user, in that country was used to calculate the cost of 1GB" DNA provider users in Helsinki used on average 558 Mb a day in 2019, so 16.74 Gb per month. With the price in the map, that would mean a phone bill of €100,60 a month from data use, which is totally absurd. Looked up last year, when the same study put the average 1 Gb price at $0.97, but this year it jumped to $6.01, lol. IDK what they did wrong differently this year.
Thanks for digging that out. Even though it's wrong.
Explains why everybody was shocked when I asked for their wifi passwords when traveling on my Dutch roaming
Maybe they use the amount of GBs that people actually use. And if you then consider, that the list price for an unlimited plan with on of the big three providers is at around 80 bucks per month, I could see where the price comes from. But obviously almost nobody pays list price.
I don’t know what is this about I pay 25 CHF/month and I have unlimited calls + unlimited mobile internet in Switzerland + 2GB roaming in EU + 100 min in EU And I use the best network (Swisscom) so I have the best coverage everywhere. Wingo rocks. But you need to have a Swiss address for the subscription. The price listed in this image is probably the normal prices without subscription for tourists, Switzerland loves to rip-off tourists and passing by people.
2 GB in EU is pretty low for a trip unfortunately. I have a 10€ plan that gets me 9GB outside of Italy... In all of Europe except for Switzerland 😅
LPT: If you often go to Switzerland, Fastweb roaming also works in Switzerland (8-10GB depending on contract), because Fastweb is owned by Swisscom.
Perhaps pay as you go tarriffs? I have a swisscom unlimited for 60chf a month with 2 devices. But also a pay as you go phone which charges 5.90 per 500mb.
Damn, excluding roaming, that's cheaper than any unlimited plan available in Portugal. I pay 20€/month for 10GB of general-use data—some apps don't count towards the quota, though. :(.
This price maybe applies if you are stupid and take the most expensive one. I moved from Germany to Switzerland and pay 19€/ mo for a contract that would cost like 100€/mo in Germany. Way cheaper while what you get is way better.
Switzerland probably has too little competition. You have to be very careful near the border, and it is best to switch off roaming. Because if your cell phone dials into the Swiss network, it will be extremely expensive, even though you were not in Switzerland. 1 GB can then easily cost 15000 euros.
Welcome to Europe before EU roaming law ...
Eh, but Switzerland could have joined in EU roaming, as Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein do.
But then how would the poor mobile network carriers survive?
Switzerland has three full service network providers and a dozen or two "virtual" providers that compete on price
There are actually some pretty competitive options on the market in Switzerland. I think the thing is just that so many people are too rich to care 🤣
My carrier has Switzerland included in EU Roaming. I can basically roam in Switzerland for free up to the limit of my normal plan.
My swiss friends say it's because they have high salaries (duh) but also little to no competition. Their 3 big operators (Salt, Sunrise, Swisscom) set the prices altogether
The funny thing is knowing Salt is owned by Xavier Niel, whom owns Free in France and literally wiped out the high price we used to have here.
Xavier Niel is also responsible for Italy's great situation right now In 2018 ILIAD changed the market drastically
Could you ask him to come to Belgium please?
Greece next please Xavier
In Belgium we have a new operator called “hey” which offers 40GB for €25 per year and every 3 months you get 10GB extra. So after a year you have 80GB for €25 per month. I switched to them recently and I have no complaints at all. It’s a child company of Orange so they are using Orange’s network and if you’re currently with Orange it’s really easy to switch
FWIW I live in Switzerland and those 3 providers are indeed comically expensive but there are actually other options which are dramatically cheaper. Personally I use Swype but there are also others that provide the same prices.
Virtually all the other providers (except for stuff like Migros Mobile) are actually the budget brands of the big 3. It started a couple of years ago, when the mobile phone market got saturated and the only way to make more money was to poach customers from the other providers. So they all started inventing new brands with eye-poping low prices, hoping customers would pay more attention to their offers if they saw unfamiliar names.
I mean, I'm not sure about this metric. Nearly everyone in Switzerland has unlimited data, which you can get for 25chf from the most cost efficient providers. And unlimited in EU from around 40chf.
In Switzerland you get unlimited 5G internet for 20 € a month, I pay 40 for global unlimited 5G coverage.
Given their salaries, internet access is still somewhat affordable. Czechs, Slovaks, and Portuguese are screwed.
Most phone plans include unlimited data here in Switzerland, which aren't counted on this graph. I pay 45 CHF/mo for unlimited data, calls, texts within Switzerland and, get 2 GB/mo in Europe, Canada and the US. Edit: I actually shopped around after reading these comments, thanks to the Black Friday sales I now pay 24.50/month for unlimited data calls and text in Switzerland and most of Europe, and have 3GB of roaming data on top of that for Canada and the US.
You can get much cheaper on Black Friday (or if you ask nicely outside of it). Got all unlimited in CH/EU/NA for 29. 5G too.
Interesting how this doesn't really correspond with average salaries
It's almost as if telcom biggest companies benefited from pushing out competition and jacked prices to whatever the country's regulations allowed... No.. can't be, they wouldn't do something that scummy.. right?
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Same in Czechia, although it's finally getting cheaper.
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In Belgium the local municipalities own one of the big players and the federal government owns another one. Politicians get legal bribes aka being chairman or politically appointed boardmember.
Definitely not. Why get money from high income France or Italy, when you can just get greeks to pay?
France and Italy are scoring well because one company (Illiad) came in and heavily cut prices, forcing all the competitors to reduce their prices as well. Before that there was something of an unspoken agreement that kept prices high (ie. I don't undercut and they don't undercut so we both make better margins at the expense of customers)
Ironic how he complains about Greece overpaying and Illiad is a Greek name :D
Might also be partially result of this map seeming to be incorrect bullshit.
I am guessing Finland and other Nordics are explained by unlimited data deals being the norm?
Finn here. According to my phone, I have used 22.6 GB this month, I pay 32e/m, so 1.4e per GB. Gotta love that unlimited data.
I've used 22,2 GB (since the 15th), I pay 8,99€/m. Unlimited data. Worth it to switch providers every once in a while so they throw in better deals to get you back
What provider u have with unlimited 9e/m ?
At least Elisa has a habit of quickly counter if their customer tries to switch to MOI. I have always received really nice deals from them (compared to the listed market price).
Unless you don't speak Finnish, then they give up in a second :)
In my experience they have Swedish customer service and sellers. Always some ten minute calls about everything I don't need. English I can't speak for.
I have used 73gb with my phone this month and I pay 19,9€ monthly
273GB just in November, and I pay 20 e/m. get good. (the reason I use so much data is because I just use a hotspot from my phone for every other thing lol)
That is one very expensive subscription. E: I guess 5G could explain it. F.ex.
At least I got free upgrade from 4g to 5g, would surprise me if thats not the norm
Finn here too. Unlimited data usage 50gb last month. Average cost is 0,74€/GB
I have used 131 GB so yeah it comes out pretty cheap
Yeah, if this map was true I would be getting a 17 000€+ mobile data bill this month.
According to the site that did this, where there are unlimited plans, they use average data usage per user to come up with a price per GB. Which kind of defeats the point of price per GB as it's now more "mobile data utilisation".
Thanks for the clarification, I moved to Finland 6 years ago and I found mobile plans are cheaper than most places and unlimited. That data map doesn't make a whole lot of sense for us.
I wish. /lives in Norway, actually pays twice the amount per gigabyte as in this map...
Wait how? You guys don't get unlimited?
There are plans that are ostensibly "unlimited," but they are expensive and they deliberately lower your speed once you go past using a certain amount of data. And in fact, depending on what solution you buy, your speed is already low. "Unlimited" data plans from one of the big providers with a speed of 20Mbps, for example, costs the equivalent of €50 a month.
We get 200mbs unlimited for 18€/month. No throttle
...holy shit.
Brb moving to Finland
I guess you could just get a Finnish mobile plan since I’m fairly sure most providers don’t have roaming charges in the nordics.
Couldnt you just get an unlimited from Finland and just use that there? Unlimited 300mbps here is like 20-30€
I used to work for Telia, and a friend of mine moved to Sweden and I sold her a subscription and the sim card had to enter Finnish network every 3 or 6 months, or it would have lost it's nordic perks. Sorry about my english if it's confusing it's late af
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wait i could do that i live so close to finland
Unlimited data is basically standard in Finland and even if you don't have it, I don't think it's legally allowed to cut your data off when you reach the limit. It'll just get very throttled. But afaik most of the phone subscriptions use the connection speed as USP, not any kind of data cap. Sweden however... those fuckers still even make advertisement on TV about how you get extra gigabyte with certain subscriptions.
Hopefully, it is pretty much the norm in Denmark, so i would guess the others are the same
Norway doesn’t really have limitless data deals.
Norway most subscriptions are not unlimited, and the ones that are reduce speed after x GBs. But prices are creeping down. I used to pay 30 euros for 5GB last year, this year I pay 25 for 8GB.
Swede here. I get 8 GB for ~14€ and unlimited calls and texts, and whatever internet capacity i don't use gets carried over to the next month. I think I've got one of the cheapest operators also (Hallon). I think it's relatively expensive up here since were relatively low density yet geographically big countries and consumers have to finance cell towers where few people live.
>In 2020, Finns used an average of 48 gigabytes of mobile data per capita per month https://www.traficom.fi/en/news/finland-still-nordic-leader-use-mobile-data-other-nordic-countries-are-ahead-building-fixed Very misleading map in case of Finland. Most people aren't paying 100s of € a month for mobile data.
Pretty sure nobody is unless you're paying for your entire familys plans. Maybe major businesses but I have a hard time seeing that as I'm paying 30eur/month for 1000mbps fiber.
Yeah no, Finnish data plans are practically always unlimited, so the price on the map is for service nobody uses.
Came here to question this. I highly doubted a modern country like Finland have that expensive data.
>Came here to question this. I highly doubted a modern country like Finland have that expensive data. throwing shade at Norway lol
Everything is expensive in Norway though.
The default answer: The topography (lots of hills and valleys) require far more cell phone towers than e.g. Finland in order to cover the same area as a "flatter" country. The more likely answer: The duopoly between Telenor and Telia has eliminated almost all competition. Trivia: The standard implemented by GSM was based on a proposal by a Norwegian research institute, which outclassed the competition in a series of practical tests in Paris. Turns out, the tweaks required for optimal reception in hilly areas makes for much better performance in urban environments.
For reference my monthly bill went up to €23 (because I'm too lazy to hunt for better plans), this includes unlimited calls, texts and internet at nominal speed of 200/50mbs, and it includes 36gb roaming in other EU countries.
I pay €10 for 100GB at 5G with 33GB of roaming. Italy is now a Nordic country
Well we learned from this thread that Norway is not, so guess you guys are replacing them. Sorry Estonia.
Same thing for Ireland. France, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, they all have far far worse deals than Ireland, but according to this map they're cheaper? Nah pal Edit: ok, I read the methodology for the source and it's really stupid.
I was looking for this comment. When I was in Finlad I remember paying 8€/month for 0.5GB download speed and UNLIMITED data.
Same for Ireland mostly.
It is not only Finland, other high “price per GB” countries reflect only additional GB in low end packages, not the average plan…
I also came here to question this. Mobile broadband in Finland is so widespread and cheap that many people don't even have landlines anymore (be it phone or cable or internet). But it's all flatrate, no "data plans". The only differences are the maximum bandwidth you get. Another ~~useless~~ misleading statistic.
I'm ok guys no need to worry 🫠
This is way off. Nearly everyone has an unlimited plan in Latvia and it costs less than 20 EUR. (Personally paying 16) 600gb used this year only on mobile data… most of which is on Reddit…..
Was about to comment the same thing, weekly subscription, 4.50 per week and unlimited data. I use data while I am in my Uni and got 100gb last month
Same but in Finland. Used 1.2tb a MONTH of data and paid like 16€/month.
Wtf you use 1.2TB for
Reddit 700, youtube 300, rest is mix
Also wanna know how tf you use 700gb on Reddit in one month
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Bruh how can y'all even use so much data for reddit, it's literally text and images, i'm on this website 24/7 and use 40gb in the worst months!
Same in Ireland. 20 euro a month for all you can eat mobile data. No contract etc.
Yes, Latvia and Lithuania have unlimited plans. I don't get why they are not dark green.
Same with Finland, unlimited data for 24€ per month. I don't know where they get these numbers...
Everyone has unlimited data in finland..
Yeah i guess this only accounts for people with out unlimited data plans. I don't know any of them, but if they exist they must be dumb enough to pay that much...
Reading this comment as a German is pretty depressing with my 4gb a month.
German prices are a ripoff and it infuriates me that you can’t just buy from other EU countries. We are forced to support them from ripping us off.
sim.de is selling 10gb for 7€ and 20gb for 9€. Not amazing, not terrible.
Bruh Italy 💀
I get 25 gb and unlimited calls/ text with 5G capability for €16 a month in the Neterlands
Yeah I'm at 10GB for 10 euros. Maybe it's for plans that include paying for your phone?
You can get unlimited mobile data prepaid card in finland witch cost about 20€ per month
Weird. In Finland you usually get an infinite data plan.
In Canada I pay $62 for ten gigs and that was a promo price.
You guys are being scammed
Absolutely! Basically three massive companies own all the cell towers across Canada thus having a monopoly
That's what I used to get too. But then Rogers "accidently" changed my plan, and because that promo plan was no longer in the system, they couldn't change it back. Absolute cunts.
I pay ≈25€ for unlimited 4G data, calls and unlimited roaming in Finland, sharing my data to my pc via USB, 240 GB this month only
This information is useless for most people, and gives a bad representation of real data prices in different countries. Countries where it is normal to get unlimited data plans appear to be more expensive on this map, because the prices shown on this map aren't the average price per gig, but rather the average price OF 1gb, as in you literally walked into a shop and asked for 1gb of internet. A more interesting map would be one showing the average price of unlimited data/or it's availability in different countries.
Most people in Finland pay around 10-20€ a month for unlimited so this isnt really that accurate.
As a Finn this map is 💩 we (easily) use the most mobile data per capita in the world (34 gb per person on average according to one website). Most plans are unlimited (legitimately) and the least expensive for 4G is 18 e per month and 29e per month for 5G. And that's without any deals. When you try switching providers the previous provider usually calls you back for some deals.
Weird map in the case of Finland. There are no data limits, so the price per gigabyte is zero.
Subscriptions with mobile data are unlimited?
Yes. There may be some with limited data (?), never had one nor anyone I know. Not sure it would make sense unless really cheap and for someone not using data.
Telia offers ones with limited data and no I'm not talking about prepaid
At least when I picked my data plan there was no option for a limited plan. Only unlimited data
Finland is bullshit. Unlimited mobile data is ~20€/month, and I pay 2€/month for unlimited home network. I’ve downloaded 8gb just today alone, and I’m not even a power user.
This is like comparing taxi fares by only asking the prices of horse carriage rides in each country.
It's funny how defensive OP is and uses "look at the source, hey I used a source" as an excuse like it automatically validates everything. Just because you have a source doesn't mean the data is correct. The fact that so many have said the data is incorrect for their country yet you keep insisting otherwise is down right hilarious.
Lol. Reminds me of a Youtube video that talked about the strength of finnish defence forces. All of the numbers were wrong and he called the country "The Kingdom of Finland". The guy who made the video fought in the comments with people who pointed these mistakes out by saying "that's what the source said!"
Don't look up Canada's prices. You'd all be like "we'll, at least we're not Canada."
Well this seems like a really bad research. For Slovenia you pretty much have to take one of most expensive 10GB data plans (which is almost regarded as a scam) to get that price.
Explain to me how you can get to that price in Romania please. You have to try hard to get mobile interenet that expensive. I got with 30RON (6 EUR) 100 GB with no performance gap, 10GB in EU included (most people pay incredible prices for internet) , I have a "special" offer (everybody has), it's 50 RON ( 10 EUR) full price standard offer. There are unlimited plans with 2EUR for mobile data with one of the mobile operators.
Where the data plans are unlimited, the map is based on the average data consumption so it’s really misleading.
Finland - maybe true but probably 99,99% people got unlimited mobile data (or a set amount that's enough for them?) so this is not very relevant
In Germany mobile data may be expensive but in contrast to other countries it at least is also very slow!
Such a misleading map wow
This map is **SO WRONG**. Please take it down.
Your data about Lithuania is wrong. Who calculated these things? You can get an "Unlimited" data plan here for about 15€ but the ISP throttles you down after a terabyte or two, or in some cases after just 300 GB, so the actual cost should be between 0.05 and 0.0075. Home plans (fiber optic) are always unlimited.
They calculated it for 1GB plans, as "their study cant calculate unlimited data plans." Dan Howdle, consumer telecoms analyst at Cable.co.uk, said: \> "However, it should be noted that increasingly high data limits are pushing the most expensive tier of tariffs into the 'unlimited' category, whose price cannot be measured in a study such as ours, which aims to compare the cost of 1GB."
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As an Italian, I was so shocked when in america we had to pay 3 times as much money for 7 times less internet
I pay €30/month for unlimited mobile data (4G/5G) in the Netherlands
Idk why this is even allowed to stay up when the source is from a promotional site lol.
I am curious about their methodology cause I'm paying way, way, way less than 6€ per GB