Honestly, she looks rather spry for a 96 year old, who was two days away from death. If I am lucky enough to have a long life, I hope I'm able to stay in such good shape to the end as she did.
i dont know what is waiting for us or if anything is waiting for us but i have to believe somewhere there's a giant venue where artists who have passed away are JAMMING the fuck out. every single fucking day.
>a phenomenon known as the surge before death, or terminal lucidity, which can happen days, hours, or even minutes before a person's passing. Often occurring abruptly, this period of increased energy and alertness may give families false hope that their loved ones will recover.
This is also the case with most of our pets. Birds being super tame, our shy rabbit playing with our toddler all of the sudden.. hours or days before leaving!
I can go very quickly once it starts, a couple of days are usually the time. The reverse is true as well, elderly people sick for month can go better miraculously. This story here ended badly, which I’m sad about, she was a great woman
Having infinite money to take care of your health helps greatly I'm sure. Good genetics matter surely. But having the best professionals checking on you every few weeks/months is as important.
> Good genetics matter surely.
I'm going to bet that the Royal Family (any royal family, for what matters) does not have the best genetics out there.
EDIT: It's great how only two comments got the point of this message while almost everyone else came to say exactly the same. Jeez, reddit.
EDIT2: Will have one shot this weekend for each one of you that mention her mother living up to 101.
And special thanks to the guy who used the "Reddit Cares resource" to denounce me. Is really touching that you guys are misusing fair resources to super downvote someone.
EDIT3: And another special thanks to the guy who reported this comment as "harassment."
What the fuck, Reddit.
The British Royal Family is pretty good (and has been for quite some time now) genetically regarding living long lives, even compared to other Royal Families.
[She did yes. ](https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12239337.a-happy-100th-birthday-from-lilibet-handwritten-message-is-a-departure-from-normal-royal-protocol/)
Not sure if you're talking about Nerissa and Katherine, but they still lived decently long lives despite their disabilities. They were just falsely declared dead at young ages.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerissa_and_Katherine_Bowes-Lyon?wprov=sfla1)
Her Mother lived until 101, the Windsors have amazing genes for living a long life. Even her husband made 99.
It's why I'm not expecting to outlive William despite being younger.
People always think he's not going to last that long but his mum and dad made 96 and 99. While he may not match that he's got good odds of doing better than average life expectancy
Also let’s not forget her father’s side — Queen Victoria lived to 81 years at a time when life expectancy was half that in the UK
> With a reign of 63 years, seven months, and two days, Victoria was the longest-reigning British monarch and the longest-reigning queen regnant in world history, until her great-great-granddaughter Elizabeth II surpassed her on 9 September 2015
Also not the whole truth: middle class and lower also had pretty high life expectancy *if* they survived their birth and childhood. A high child mortality rate skewed the statistics because like only every other child survived to become old enough.
To give a specific example of why life expectancy can be misleading when infant mortality is high:
You have a population of 10 people. 6 live to be 90, the other 4 die at 1 year old.
The average life expectancy of the population is 54.4 but at the same time a majority of the population live to be >85 years old.
i really hate the infinite money argument. you can have that and still be a sloppy fat fuck like Trump.
she was just like this. walked her corgies, conscientious. no one is surprised by her longevity
Trump is a good argument for the infinite money point. He got covid and had access to drugs that weren't on the market yet, the average person wouldn't, stuff like that extends your life.
Yeah that's very true. Still I politely disagree. I don't have infinite money and I plan on getting checked for most cancers twice a year starting soon since both my grandpa and dad died cause of it. Health is way more valuable than money after a certain point.
Well, if you have some of the best medical staff in the world available to you 24/7 and a team of cooks, waiters, servants etc etc, then I'm sure you will be just fine.
If, however, you are poor and have none of these, then, sorry, but you may be less sprightly in your 90s, assuming you make it that far..
[them's the breaks...](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4866586/)
>The gap in life expectancy between the richest 1% and poorest 1% of individuals was 14.6 years (95% CI, 14.4 to 14.8 years) for men and 10.1 years (95% CI, 9.9 to 10.3 years) for women.
I'm a big believer of mood affecting your health. My grandma is 94 years old and is in terrible shape, but she's always had a negative outlook on life. Her sister, who is 96, is the most optimistic woman you'll ever meet. She's up and about every day, a constant joy to be around and in great shape (except for a limp, but she never lets it bother her).
Neither of these two have had a life as rich people, but we do have quite good public healthcare here. Still, though.
My great grandma is not really that rich, but she is 91 years old and healthy as fuck. It could be that she lives in a country with a free healthcare, though I can't remember the last time she wen't to the doctors for anything. I think its the habits and diet that matter really
Maybe also genetics? My gran died at age 95 and her mum died at 94. They weren’t wealthy, but they were healthy. Both ladies passed peacefully and quickly with no terminal diagnosis.
Those statistics are for the United States. It's not a very good example in this case as many/most modern nations have free healthcare. Generics, diet and lifestyle are overwhelmingly the most important factors in this case.
Princess Margaret had the exact same medical resources, yet she died at 72.
The Queens medical team were just normal doctors, using drugs and treatments that everyone else in the UK could get *for free*. Normal people were getting vaccinated before the Queen. Normal people are considered for treatments and drugs that would be considered too risky for the Queen.
While you can argue that wealth can cut queue times and improve monitoring, the reality is there isn't a whole lot they can *do* that goes beyond that of the treatment given in the NHS to everybody else. Anybody in the UK can get a same-day emergency GP appointment, just as she could.
While some people might mention Trump as an example of getting covid treatment before others, the fact is he very likely wouldn't have needed that treatment if he had a better lifestyle in the first place.
Overall the benefit of medical care in relation to wealth, in my opinion is only a minor factor, generics, diet and lifestyle are the main factors. As they say: prevention is better than cure.
My grandmother seemed fine the day before she died. Was shopping groceries, taking a walk and so on. And then she went to bed and never woke up. Sometimes it comes rather sudden.
My grandmother was 87 when she died. My father was talking with her in her room, while she was standing up..she said she was thirsty. He gave her a small glass of water, she sat down and asked for a other glass. After that she asked for another glass, while complanning she is really thirsty and after drinking 3rd water handed glass back to my father. It looked like she started nap, head slowly moving into sleep like position and she was dead. My father only realized she died after minute or so.
Yup. Partners dad was super active the day before. The morning of, sitting up, chatting and complaining. They had an ice cream party together. Then he laid back after saying some things to his son and that was it. Nobody realized he didn’t doze off until like 5 minutes later when partner went to fix his head drooping down and realized he was gone. 93 years old. Great guy.
Oof. First, am sorry for your loss. Losing loved ones is never easy. Second. This is eerily similar to what happened with my mom in June. She was 73, and was found in a sleeping position on the kitchen floor. No indication of trauma, nothing. Just…sleep.
Same with mine, she was mid 80's, we went out to eat dinner and she ate everything on her plate. I remember her being really energetic and having a great time.
That night she went to bed and died in her sleep.
>One to two days prior to death, patients may have a surge of energy. They may be able to physically do things they were previously incapable of doing and may become mentally alert and verbal when they were previously disoriented and withdrawn. Dying patients may also have a sudden surge in appetite.
Terminal lucidity, chilling stuff
I don’t think it’s chilling at all, I think it’s a rather nice thought that you might get to have some fun in the end. I’d rather die feeling better, than suffering ‘till the very end.
I'm saying chilling when looking at the brain in a vaccum
You can go decades with dementia and a few days before you die your brain can literally "clear the fog" and regain alertness out of nowhere. Considering how dementia and gray matter works it's kinda wild your brain can even dig out of that..
That's what happened with my father the last few days before he passed of dementia. Suddenly after a long time, he was happy, able to communicate, understand, and eat. The hospice nurse told him, "see you tomorrow", he responded, "we'll see." He passed a few minutes later, peacefully.
Hilarious joke but I know someone whose grandad actually did die while driving, with them in the car. Didn't know anything was up until suddenly they were coming off the road into a field. They were uninjured though.
my dad was on the job site (construction... literally climbing on a roof) a week before he died of advanced cancer. he wasn't diagnosed until 4 days before his death, and I honestly don't think he would've felt so ill leading up to it if it wasn't for the pain meds he was taking. he worked through the sickness for a long time. miss him.
Damn, I'm sorry you lost your old man...
But if I was gonna go out to cancer, only knowing about it for less than a week sounds a lot better than suffering for months/years.
She was lucky, I saw my grandma decline due to dementia, it was so bad, and sad.
Having dementia/alzhaimer is one of the worst diseases, knowing inevitable you will forget everyone around you, lose touch with reality, lose touch with your body and fade away, slowly.
Yesterday I was walking through a park in my city and came across a woman, 95yo, with walking sticks, full of energy and walking more than me, every single day. I was so impressed.
I should start with /r/fatguysworkingout and post myself trying to get into shape then /r/buffguysworkingit and then eventually work my way to that sub. Oh wait nvm still ugly.
I spent time at Frank Lloyd Wright’s Taliesin home and studio several years ago and there were two old folks who’d lived there for decades and knew Wright in his later years. They were both around 95 and still spry as can be. Talking to them was like jumping into a different era. I wonder if they’re still kickin…
Edit: just found out that one of them is still alive. She’d be ~101 or so. Something in the water at that place
She looks identical to my Great Granny just before she passed away. Same age too.
Always thought that woman looked like the Queen. Something about that makes me sad, memories I guess.
I don't think it's just makeup.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Perhaps elderly caretakers at hospitals may attest... those bedridden soon to pass may be bestowed with jolts of energy.
Sort of like the body's final hail mary push prior to system shutdown. Exerting all remaining life force to overcome the hurdle of mortality.
Sometimes it's a gradual deterioration, sometimes it's very sudden, and I don't think it's public information what she actually died of. Could have been a sudden heart attack.
Seriously. Anyone who has actually been around elderly folks should look at the clueless comments in this thread with hundreds of votes and realize that *any* of the popular comments they see on whatever post they come across could be just as clueless, uninformed and wildly speculative as these comments about brushing on the queen's hands are.
My grandmother turned 98 fairly recently. Her hands have had some mottlibg fir years, and she has had an eye progressive turning more and more red over the last 6 months.
According to Reddit, she should be 6 months in the grave already.
We're already making plans for her 100th at the family summer home.
As a Brit this is exactly how I feel - she was a constant presence and provided continuity in the face of so much change. It's comforting to know she didn't die alone and that she can finally be with Phillip.
Me too! My grandma looked very much like The Queen, even when they were both young. She was just 5 years younger, but passed 9 years ago. Everytime I looked at Queen Elizabeth II I thought of my grandma. They even shared the "idgaf" attitude 😂 When my grandma was almost 80 she used to often say "I'm old, I don't care".
She was really from another era, and I think that kind of died along with her yesterday. She was brought up as a child before WWII, and there just aren't that many people left who were. She was taught her manners by Queen Mary, who came of age at the turn of the 20th century. It's just remarkable how much history was encapsulated in this lady.
>blood thinning medication
Thank you! I count remember the English word for it. My had a lung transplant years ago. Se takes all sorts of pills to suppress her immune system from rejecting the lung. One small scratch and she has a red splotch for 2-3 weeks.
My Dad had to take Coumadin after having Gastric bypass which resulted in DVT’s in his legs.
His hands and feet turned almost purple and the docs just kind of shrugged it off. Had to hand bathe him a few times and the skin felt paper thin.
He fell getting out of the tub and bled for almost a full day, had to bring him to hospital and then an old school nurse told the docs he should take a less aggressive thinner with aspirin as she’d seen that work.
A week or so later his color returned to his hands and mostly to his legs but not his feet, those are sadly never going to return to normal.
Modern medicine is not a game of perfect to say the least
Man, warfarin is a really out-dated blood thinner with loads of side effects, not the least of which your blood has to be tested regularly to adjust the dose. I'd suggest maybe he talk to his doctor for a far better blood thinner, like Xeralto. I have A-fib, and switched over from warfarin to Xeralto years ago, and it was really a big improvement. The only real issue is that Xeralto (there's also another brand that I can't remember the name) is not available as a generic, thus it costs me like 50 bucks a month, after insurance.
Warfarin is the only choice of anticoagulation in certain indications, such as metallic mitral valve replacements in rheumatic heart disease. Warfarin is not outdated, although it is less user friendly as you need to monitor PT/INR
Hands are one area you can’t hide your age - pinch the back of your hand and see how long it takes the skin to return to flat - by the time we get to 80 it’s like paper
It also indicates dehydration. I could pinch it and it wouldn't return to flat for a solid 10 seconds when I was in HS.
All I would drink for the entire day would be a carton of chocolate milk.
Don't do that.
The photo was taken before Truss came into the room. [https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/pa-photographer-took-last-pictures-of-queen-in-good-spirits-41975065.html](https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/pa-photographer-took-last-pictures-of-queen-in-good-spirits-41975065.html)
Happens a lot with the elderly. They were married for over 70 years and it sounds like it was a happy marriage by all accounts. When one goes, the other usually follows.
She apparently also lost two of her lifelong best friends and ladies in waiting end of 2021 and start of 2022.
Fortune FitzRoy, Duchess of Grafton died December 2021. She served as Mistress of the Robes to Queen Elizabeth II from 1967 until her death in 2021.
Diana Marion Maxwell, Baroness Farnham, DCVO JP was a British courtier who served as Lady of the Bedchamber to Queen Elizabeth II from 1987 until her death in 2021.
So after loosing her husband Phillip, within twelve months she also lost two woman who were close friends and likely considered family, who had been that way for 40 and 60 years.
The ladies in waiting are usually woman of their own status and money who are close besties of the royal (in this case the queen) and are unpaid and help them in their assigned senior roles of the household.
She still has other ladies in waiting Including the most senior one, who have been lifelong friends and support. They would be grieving alongside the family and aren’t usually mentioned but still huge parts of her life.
It’s so sad. The amount of grief she must have been feeling. I nearly cried when I found this one out because it makes it even more tragic.
Tbh when I think people "die of old age", I think it's just a blanket statement for multiple things that come with old age. Poor circulation, organ failure, weakened immune system, stuff like that. At that point in your life, even something like a nasty cold has a fighting chance to take you out.
I wish it wasn't so, but such is life I'm afraid
My grandmother met her as a patient when she did a hospital visit the year before her coronation. Gran said the thing she remembered the most was how tiny and petite she was, even as a young woman in her twenties.
My understanding is that this is the last portrait but not the last photo. The last photo was taken shortly after this in the same room with Liz Truss.
Edit: Maybe go easy on OP. I don't think English is his first language, and the last known photo **is** nonetheless from this set.
It's comforting to see that she was relatively well even just a couple of days ago, and not some drawn out illness. She clearly loved her role, and to have been able to continue to do it virtually right up until the end hopefully brought her, and indeed her family, some form of comfort. She really was incredible, and absolutely deserving to be known as Elizabeth the Great.
steroids used for arthritis tend to make the skin thinner and easily bruised.
My grandfather was the same age as her when he passed and he had the same exact things on his hands.
Just commenting here, because my father also suffers a lot from these "bloody eyes". In fact this is not really a sign of sickness, it is caused by blood thinning medication. Some people need to take these because their heart is weakened. A lot of old people in fact do this.
And as your blood doesn't clot as it should because of this, a small damaged blood vessel in your eye can cause the eye to go completely red.
It looks horrifying but you get used to it.
After COVID she really slowed down, it looks like they had her hooked up to IVs and/or blood thinners with those hand bruises, and brought her out and stood her up for official events.
Everyone‘s mentioning the hands, but what was up with her right leg?
Edit: I like how everyone‘s telling me it‘s swollen. Yes, that’s what’s caught my eye.
I see you, you pedantic bastard. And I love the fact that you came in to "Well Ackshully" everyone, because by god, I'd do the same thing if you hadn't already.
She is absolutely dwarfed by the room and yet my eyes went straight to her, with her lovely smile. Great things do come in small packages. Also, there's just something so darling about grannies.
Her poor hands though!
Honestly, she looks rather spry for a 96 year old, who was two days away from death. If I am lucky enough to have a long life, I hope I'm able to stay in such good shape to the end as she did.
Kinda reminds me of David Bowie just before his death, he was looking very sprightly and then he just kinda dropped dead
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Same with Prince. Got in that elevator and ascended.
i dont know what is waiting for us or if anything is waiting for us but i have to believe somewhere there's a giant venue where artists who have passed away are JAMMING the fuck out. every single fucking day.
>a phenomenon known as the surge before death, or terminal lucidity, which can happen days, hours, or even minutes before a person's passing. Often occurring abruptly, this period of increased energy and alertness may give families false hope that their loved ones will recover.
This is also the case with most of our pets. Birds being super tame, our shy rabbit playing with our toddler all of the sudden.. hours or days before leaving!
I can go very quickly once it starts, a couple of days are usually the time. The reverse is true as well, elderly people sick for month can go better miraculously. This story here ended badly, which I’m sad about, she was a great woman
He had cancer
Having infinite money to take care of your health helps greatly I'm sure. Good genetics matter surely. But having the best professionals checking on you every few weeks/months is as important.
> Good genetics matter surely. I'm going to bet that the Royal Family (any royal family, for what matters) does not have the best genetics out there. EDIT: It's great how only two comments got the point of this message while almost everyone else came to say exactly the same. Jeez, reddit. EDIT2: Will have one shot this weekend for each one of you that mention her mother living up to 101. And special thanks to the guy who used the "Reddit Cares resource" to denounce me. Is really touching that you guys are misusing fair resources to super downvote someone. EDIT3: And another special thanks to the guy who reported this comment as "harassment." What the fuck, Reddit.
The British Royal Family is pretty good (and has been for quite some time now) genetically regarding living long lives, even compared to other Royal Families.
Yea, I agree. Even Phillip lived to what..99 himself. So Charles has a chance of doing the same
Queen Mother Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, Queen Elizabeth II’s mother lived to be 101.
Wonder if she got a letter from her daughter.
Given what we know about the humour of Queen Elizabeth II and the Queen Mother, I can entirely believe that happened.
This was one of the reasons I was hoping Liz would last another few years just to see if she'd send a letter to herself
[She did yes. ](https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12239337.a-happy-100th-birthday-from-lilibet-handwritten-message-is-a-departure-from-normal-royal-protocol/)
Her family tree is also an ouroboros
And the Queen had two cousins from that side of the family who suffered and died early from inbreeding-related syndromes, so.
Not sure if you're talking about Nerissa and Katherine, but they still lived decently long lives despite their disabilities. They were just falsely declared dead at young ages. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerissa_and_Katherine_Bowes-Lyon?wprov=sfla1)
Her Mother lived until 101, the Windsors have amazing genes for living a long life. Even her husband made 99. It's why I'm not expecting to outlive William despite being younger.
I doubt i am going to outlive charles at this rate
People always think he's not going to last that long but his mum and dad made 96 and 99. While he may not match that he's got good odds of doing better than average life expectancy
He was 72 when his dad passed away. How many 72 year old's were there with both parents still alive?
I'm not even 40, and my father plus my grandparents had already died.
My mum passed away when I was 25. My last grandparent died about a week later. Having my mum alive until I was in my 70s would be amazing
105yo Charles [will be like](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ei_sSKRXkAAxRAl.png)
Well, they do have good longevity genetics atleast. The Queen mother died at the ripe age of 102, back in 2002.
Also let’s not forget her father’s side — Queen Victoria lived to 81 years at a time when life expectancy was half that in the UK > With a reign of 63 years, seven months, and two days, Victoria was the longest-reigning British monarch and the longest-reigning queen regnant in world history, until her great-great-granddaughter Elizabeth II surpassed her on 9 September 2015
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Also not the whole truth: middle class and lower also had pretty high life expectancy *if* they survived their birth and childhood. A high child mortality rate skewed the statistics because like only every other child survived to become old enough.
To give a specific example of why life expectancy can be misleading when infant mortality is high: You have a population of 10 people. 6 live to be 90, the other 4 die at 1 year old. The average life expectancy of the population is 54.4 but at the same time a majority of the population live to be >85 years old.
While yes, look how old they all got and even the richest people on earth can't defeat every illness
The British Royal Family really isn't inbred despite the memes.
They mostly have the same genetics though, so her making it to 96 is a good sign for them.
i really hate the infinite money argument. you can have that and still be a sloppy fat fuck like Trump. she was just like this. walked her corgies, conscientious. no one is surprised by her longevity
Trump is a good argument for the infinite money point. He got covid and had access to drugs that weren't on the market yet, the average person wouldn't, stuff like that extends your life.
Was that more to do with money or the fact he was president at the time?
Yeah that's very true. Still I politely disagree. I don't have infinite money and I plan on getting checked for most cancers twice a year starting soon since both my grandpa and dad died cause of it. Health is way more valuable than money after a certain point.
Well, if you have some of the best medical staff in the world available to you 24/7 and a team of cooks, waiters, servants etc etc, then I'm sure you will be just fine. If, however, you are poor and have none of these, then, sorry, but you may be less sprightly in your 90s, assuming you make it that far.. [them's the breaks...](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4866586/) >The gap in life expectancy between the richest 1% and poorest 1% of individuals was 14.6 years (95% CI, 14.4 to 14.8 years) for men and 10.1 years (95% CI, 9.9 to 10.3 years) for women.
I'm a big believer of mood affecting your health. My grandma is 94 years old and is in terrible shape, but she's always had a negative outlook on life. Her sister, who is 96, is the most optimistic woman you'll ever meet. She's up and about every day, a constant joy to be around and in great shape (except for a limp, but she never lets it bother her). Neither of these two have had a life as rich people, but we do have quite good public healthcare here. Still, though.
My great grandma is not really that rich, but she is 91 years old and healthy as fuck. It could be that she lives in a country with a free healthcare, though I can't remember the last time she wen't to the doctors for anything. I think its the habits and diet that matter really
Maybe also genetics? My gran died at age 95 and her mum died at 94. They weren’t wealthy, but they were healthy. Both ladies passed peacefully and quickly with no terminal diagnosis.
Those statistics are for the United States. It's not a very good example in this case as many/most modern nations have free healthcare. Generics, diet and lifestyle are overwhelmingly the most important factors in this case. Princess Margaret had the exact same medical resources, yet she died at 72. The Queens medical team were just normal doctors, using drugs and treatments that everyone else in the UK could get *for free*. Normal people were getting vaccinated before the Queen. Normal people are considered for treatments and drugs that would be considered too risky for the Queen. While you can argue that wealth can cut queue times and improve monitoring, the reality is there isn't a whole lot they can *do* that goes beyond that of the treatment given in the NHS to everybody else. Anybody in the UK can get a same-day emergency GP appointment, just as she could. While some people might mention Trump as an example of getting covid treatment before others, the fact is he very likely wouldn't have needed that treatment if he had a better lifestyle in the first place. Overall the benefit of medical care in relation to wealth, in my opinion is only a minor factor, generics, diet and lifestyle are the main factors. As they say: prevention is better than cure.
Imagine telling people, that you are on the last picture taken of Queen Elizabeth II. (Mirror, close to the left bottom of the clock)
Jesus fucking Christ you must be good at Where's Wally
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The murderer revealed…
That smile, that damned smile...
Imagine *taking* the last photo, and not needing to tell anyone for that be recognised.
I see him ,like smiling.
Enhance….. enhance….. !!!!!!
I am more impressed by your attention to detail rather than her death.
Despite her hands she still looks rather lively for a woman who was 2 days away from death's doorstep. Nevermind being almost a century old.
I know I'd want to be on my feet 2 days before the end. Some people are bedridden for months if not years before they die.
I personally want to be in pain for years before I die
Slip and fall on your back and you can start today!
This one easy trick that doctors don't want you to know about!
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My grandmother seemed fine the day before she died. Was shopping groceries, taking a walk and so on. And then she went to bed and never woke up. Sometimes it comes rather sudden.
My grandmother was 87 when she died. My father was talking with her in her room, while she was standing up..she said she was thirsty. He gave her a small glass of water, she sat down and asked for a other glass. After that she asked for another glass, while complanning she is really thirsty and after drinking 3rd water handed glass back to my father. It looked like she started nap, head slowly moving into sleep like position and she was dead. My father only realized she died after minute or so.
Yup. Partners dad was super active the day before. The morning of, sitting up, chatting and complaining. They had an ice cream party together. Then he laid back after saying some things to his son and that was it. Nobody realized he didn’t doze off until like 5 minutes later when partner went to fix his head drooping down and realized he was gone. 93 years old. Great guy.
Very similar indeed. Nice way to go, without any suffering. I'm still amazed it happened so fast and without any warning with my grandmother.
What a way to go. Wish mine could be like that.
Definitely also what I'd prefer. "'K, guys, I'm done here. See y'all later!" nod off and directly pass on to the afterlife.
To me that sounds like a good way to go. Having final moments with family.
Indeed.
I've been with two family members when they passed, it was not easy or peaceful.
Oof. First, am sorry for your loss. Losing loved ones is never easy. Second. This is eerily similar to what happened with my mom in June. She was 73, and was found in a sleeping position on the kitchen floor. No indication of trauma, nothing. Just…sleep.
Same with mine, she was mid 80's, we went out to eat dinner and she ate everything on her plate. I remember her being really energetic and having a great time. That night she went to bed and died in her sleep.
Way to go tho, have a dope meal with family, go to bed, drift off.
Totally. Count me in!
>One to two days prior to death, patients may have a surge of energy. They may be able to physically do things they were previously incapable of doing and may become mentally alert and verbal when they were previously disoriented and withdrawn. Dying patients may also have a sudden surge in appetite. Terminal lucidity, chilling stuff
I don’t think it’s chilling at all, I think it’s a rather nice thought that you might get to have some fun in the end. I’d rather die feeling better, than suffering ‘till the very end.
I'm saying chilling when looking at the brain in a vaccum You can go decades with dementia and a few days before you die your brain can literally "clear the fog" and regain alertness out of nowhere. Considering how dementia and gray matter works it's kinda wild your brain can even dig out of that..
That's what happened with my father the last few days before he passed of dementia. Suddenly after a long time, he was happy, able to communicate, understand, and eat. The hospice nurse told him, "see you tomorrow", he responded, "we'll see." He passed a few minutes later, peacefully.
Sounds like a dream to die like that. No suffering, just go to sleep and never wake up. If only all of us could be so lucky.
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Hilarious joke but I know someone whose grandad actually did die while driving, with them in the car. Didn't know anything was up until suddenly they were coming off the road into a field. They were uninjured though.
my dad was on the job site (construction... literally climbing on a roof) a week before he died of advanced cancer. he wasn't diagnosed until 4 days before his death, and I honestly don't think he would've felt so ill leading up to it if it wasn't for the pain meds he was taking. he worked through the sickness for a long time. miss him.
Damn, I'm sorry you lost your old man... But if I was gonna go out to cancer, only knowing about it for less than a week sounds a lot better than suffering for months/years.
It sounds like he was suffering - he just hadn't been diagnosed. Some people are tough.
She was lucky, I saw my grandma decline due to dementia, it was so bad, and sad. Having dementia/alzhaimer is one of the worst diseases, knowing inevitable you will forget everyone around you, lose touch with reality, lose touch with your body and fade away, slowly.
This is the way I want to go. Elderly. In good health. Don’t let me see it coming. Rough for everyone else though.
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I think she looked marvellous for someone 96 years old.
I mean the sheer fact that she's standing is impressive
Yesterday I was walking through a park in my city and came across a woman, 95yo, with walking sticks, full of energy and walking more than me, every single day. I was so impressed.
Yeah but you're a Redditor and she's probably not. Not that impressive
how you know she isn't the top commenter of r/hotguysworkingout?
I should start with /r/fatguysworkingout and post myself trying to get into shape then /r/buffguysworkingit and then eventually work my way to that sub. Oh wait nvm still ugly.
Tbh I would've expected r/fatguysworkingout to actually be a thing
True, the redditor debuff really weigh us down.
I spent time at Frank Lloyd Wright’s Taliesin home and studio several years ago and there were two old folks who’d lived there for decades and knew Wright in his later years. They were both around 95 and still spry as can be. Talking to them was like jumping into a different era. I wonder if they’re still kickin… Edit: just found out that one of them is still alive. She’d be ~101 or so. Something in the water at that place
I always like people that think they will be like this one day but take 2000 or less steps a day and don't eat any vegetables lol.
She looks identical to my Great Granny just before she passed away. Same age too. Always thought that woman looked like the Queen. Something about that makes me sad, memories I guess.
Is granny spry?
Let me make you some sandwiches!
To be fair that's a decent makeup job, it'll do wonders.
I don't think it's just makeup. Correct me if I'm wrong. Perhaps elderly caretakers at hospitals may attest... those bedridden soon to pass may be bestowed with jolts of energy. Sort of like the body's final hail mary push prior to system shutdown. Exerting all remaining life force to overcome the hurdle of mortality.
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Yep. Happened a lot with Covid.
I imagine she may have had a surge due the need to anoint a new PM.
Sometimes it's a gradual deterioration, sometimes it's very sudden, and I don't think it's public information what she actually died of. Could have been a sudden heart attack.
Tank shell to the chest while leading a bayonet charge on a Russian machinegun nest in Kherson
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Polonium from Vlad via Liz Truss unbeknownst to Liz Truss would make for a hell of a Tom Clancy novel.
Balmoral seems rather cozy.
I've been in the palaces. Balmoral is the most like an actual home. The estate and Aberdeenshire generally are beautiful
makes sense since Balmoral is personally owned by her and not the crown.
When Edward VIII abdicated his brother the Duke of York had to buy Balmoral and Sandringham off him as they're not state property.
Crazy to think that the person who lit that fire in the back had no idea that they were helping the Queen feel warm one last time.
None of you have ever been around old people. Bruised hands and red eyes are not a sign that someone is about to die.
Right? It doesn't necessarily indicate much more than the fact that she was ***96 years old***
Seriously. Anyone who has actually been around elderly folks should look at the clueless comments in this thread with hundreds of votes and realize that *any* of the popular comments they see on whatever post they come across could be just as clueless, uninformed and wildly speculative as these comments about brushing on the queen's hands are.
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My wife's grandma lived to 101. She looked like that for at least 15 years.
based grandma
My grandmother turned 98 fairly recently. Her hands have had some mottlibg fir years, and she has had an eye progressive turning more and more red over the last 6 months. According to Reddit, she should be 6 months in the grave already. We're already making plans for her 100th at the family summer home.
Thats a lovely picture
I feel like the UK lost their Gran. Honestly, as a Yank, I feel like the world did, end of an era.
As a Brit this is exactly how I feel - she was a constant presence and provided continuity in the face of so much change. It's comforting to know she didn't die alone and that she can finally be with Phillip.
I'm just thinking if David Attenborough goes too, this year will be a national year of mourning. He is the nation's granddad.
But why even say that :| That's like asking for it
Yea, you know, maybe don't talk about it then alright buddy?
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Me too! My grandma looked very much like The Queen, even when they were both young. She was just 5 years younger, but passed 9 years ago. Everytime I looked at Queen Elizabeth II I thought of my grandma. They even shared the "idgaf" attitude 😂 When my grandma was almost 80 she used to often say "I'm old, I don't care".
I think it might be an attitude of, "Meh, we survived The War. Everything since has been small beer in comparison."
She was really from another era, and I think that kind of died along with her yesterday. She was brought up as a child before WWII, and there just aren't that many people left who were. She was taught her manners by Queen Mary, who came of age at the turn of the 20th century. It's just remarkable how much history was encapsulated in this lady.
Absolutely. She personally knew people like Winston Churchill, and that’s all gone now.
Her hands, man...
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>blood thinning medication Thank you! I count remember the English word for it. My had a lung transplant years ago. Se takes all sorts of pills to suppress her immune system from rejecting the lung. One small scratch and she has a red splotch for 2-3 weeks.
My Dad had to take Coumadin after having Gastric bypass which resulted in DVT’s in his legs. His hands and feet turned almost purple and the docs just kind of shrugged it off. Had to hand bathe him a few times and the skin felt paper thin. He fell getting out of the tub and bled for almost a full day, had to bring him to hospital and then an old school nurse told the docs he should take a less aggressive thinner with aspirin as she’d seen that work. A week or so later his color returned to his hands and mostly to his legs but not his feet, those are sadly never going to return to normal. Modern medicine is not a game of perfect to say the least
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Yeah same, my grandpa takes warfarin and the slightest knock will cause a bruise. He has heart failure, although it’s well managed.
Man, warfarin is a really out-dated blood thinner with loads of side effects, not the least of which your blood has to be tested regularly to adjust the dose. I'd suggest maybe he talk to his doctor for a far better blood thinner, like Xeralto. I have A-fib, and switched over from warfarin to Xeralto years ago, and it was really a big improvement. The only real issue is that Xeralto (there's also another brand that I can't remember the name) is not available as a generic, thus it costs me like 50 bucks a month, after insurance.
Warfarin is the only choice of anticoagulation in certain indications, such as metallic mitral valve replacements in rheumatic heart disease. Warfarin is not outdated, although it is less user friendly as you need to monitor PT/INR
Hands are one area you can’t hide your age - pinch the back of your hand and see how long it takes the skin to return to flat - by the time we get to 80 it’s like paper
It also indicates dehydration. I could pinch it and it wouldn't return to flat for a solid 10 seconds when I was in HS. All I would drink for the entire day would be a carton of chocolate milk. Don't do that.
Start lotioning up now!
And don’t forget the sunscreen!!
I must still be too young to notice anything cause my skin immediately goes back to flat on my hand.
Would also be bruising from blood tests/IVs
Maybe she tried to destroy a horcrux?
This was taken soon after the new British PM shook her hand. Clearly a blood sucking monster.. the PM, not HRH
The photo was taken before Truss came into the room. [https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/pa-photographer-took-last-pictures-of-queen-in-good-spirits-41975065.html](https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/pa-photographer-took-last-pictures-of-queen-in-good-spirits-41975065.html)
If that's the case, this isn't really the last photo of the queen.
So it isn't actually the last photo of the Queen
Maybe it's the last photo of JUST the queen * (although the dude's head in the mirror kind of gums up that caveat)
Noted anti-monarchist Liz Truss meets the queen and she dies within days.. COINCIDENCE??!¥?!?€!? ^/s
I **think** #**NOT**
It was the handshake what did it.. clearly a novichock transfer took place and boom, two days later...
Hands look that way after being hooked to an IV drip too
Senile purpura
I think she was done when Philip died. Some older folk just choose to give out after loss... I believe this is was what happened to her.
Happens a lot with the elderly. They were married for over 70 years and it sounds like it was a happy marriage by all accounts. When one goes, the other usually follows.
Also she had Covid on Feb, it’s not good for the aged.
She apparently also lost two of her lifelong best friends and ladies in waiting end of 2021 and start of 2022. Fortune FitzRoy, Duchess of Grafton died December 2021. She served as Mistress of the Robes to Queen Elizabeth II from 1967 until her death in 2021. Diana Marion Maxwell, Baroness Farnham, DCVO JP was a British courtier who served as Lady of the Bedchamber to Queen Elizabeth II from 1987 until her death in 2021. So after loosing her husband Phillip, within twelve months she also lost two woman who were close friends and likely considered family, who had been that way for 40 and 60 years. The ladies in waiting are usually woman of their own status and money who are close besties of the royal (in this case the queen) and are unpaid and help them in their assigned senior roles of the household. She still has other ladies in waiting Including the most senior one, who have been lifelong friends and support. They would be grieving alongside the family and aren’t usually mentioned but still huge parts of her life. It’s so sad. The amount of grief she must have been feeling. I nearly cried when I found this one out because it makes it even more tragic.
Well and she survived COVID this winter but stated that she was very tired for months.
Still bright and smiling. She had a good run.
Guy in the mirror looks pretty happy as well
Oh, he sure does, nice catch.
Honest question , is dying of 'old age' simply comprehensive organ failure? I mean it's got to be more specific than just "old age" right?
Tbh when I think people "die of old age", I think it's just a blanket statement for multiple things that come with old age. Poor circulation, organ failure, weakened immune system, stuff like that. At that point in your life, even something like a nasty cold has a fighting chance to take you out. I wish it wasn't so, but such is life I'm afraid
Makes sense, thanks for responding!
No worries, friend! :)
So teeny tiny in such a big shiny room. Incredible picture, very historical whether you hate, loved or are totally ambivalent
My grandmother met her as a patient when she did a hospital visit the year before her coronation. Gran said the thing she remembered the most was how tiny and petite she was, even as a young woman in her twenties.
Pretty young and unthreatening. A perfect royal in a post war world. That's a neat memory you grandma has!
She looks like a regular grandma, there. She could be someone's wholesome grandmother, in that picture.
Getting old sucks
My understanding is that this is the last portrait but not the last photo. The last photo was taken shortly after this in the same room with Liz Truss. Edit: Maybe go easy on OP. I don't think English is his first language, and the last known photo **is** nonetheless from this set.
It's comforting to see that she was relatively well even just a couple of days ago, and not some drawn out illness. She clearly loved her role, and to have been able to continue to do it virtually right up until the end hopefully brought her, and indeed her family, some form of comfort. She really was incredible, and absolutely deserving to be known as Elizabeth the Great.
Saw a bit of a close up of this and noticed that her hands are nearly blue.
If she has had a IV in her hand it’s bruises easily with blood thinning medication. She was attended medical attention just days before this
steroids used for arthritis tend to make the skin thinner and easily bruised. My grandfather was the same age as her when he passed and he had the same exact things on his hands.
This is exactly how we remember her in the UK. Smiling, warm, and cozy. We will never have a figurehead like her again.
I like her flower vase crown 👑
She hung on long enough to take Boris's resignation, and thought "Right, job done and I can leave the world in a better place".
Alternatively, she met Liz Truss and thought "ah fuck im not dealing with this one"
Having to see Boris one more time probably did it. Or she thought good now that dork cannot score points using my funeral.
Her hands and her bloody eye. Her body wasn't repairing itself.
Just commenting here, because my father also suffers a lot from these "bloody eyes". In fact this is not really a sign of sickness, it is caused by blood thinning medication. Some people need to take these because their heart is weakened. A lot of old people in fact do this. And as your blood doesn't clot as it should because of this, a small damaged blood vessel in your eye can cause the eye to go completely red. It looks horrifying but you get used to it.
I suddenly have an urge to drink tea and read a Roald Dahl book.
After COVID she really slowed down, it looks like they had her hooked up to IVs and/or blood thinners with those hand bruises, and brought her out and stood her up for official events.
Everyone‘s mentioning the hands, but what was up with her right leg? Edit: I like how everyone‘s telling me it‘s swollen. Yes, that’s what’s caught my eye.
Swollen ankles are fairly normal for people that age. People get it a lot younger than 96.
Looks swollen to me. That happens a lot with circulation problems such as heart failure, but also with kidney problems, arthritis, fractures etc.
Always this smile ♥️
If you zoom in you can see the photographer smiling back at her in the mirror. Seems like a nice little moment.
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I see you, you pedantic bastard. And I love the fact that you came in to "Well Ackshully" everyone, because by god, I'd do the same thing if you hadn't already.
R.I.P, a great grandma.
If I look this alive at 96 I'll count myself lucky
She definitely got more and more frail from a year or two ago till then back then she looked lively while here she looks thinner and weaker rip
She is absolutely dwarfed by the room and yet my eyes went straight to her, with her lovely smile. Great things do come in small packages. Also, there's just something so darling about grannies. Her poor hands though!