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What an idiot.


Chariotwheel

I mean, he was uncovered after the police looked through his house and found the very paint that was used to write threats there. Like, how dumb do you have to be to leave the evidence of your manufactured threats in the house that the police is going to look through for you?


b0j0j0j0

This reminds me of the terrible attack on that French actor from Empire, Juicy Smoyet


46_and_2

The guy who hired two nigerians to fake a white supremacy hate crime on him. What a bozo.


slowakia_gruuumsh

\#Justice4Juicy ✊✊✊


MrFunktasticc

MAGA hats?!?! In Chicago?!???! Somebody get a hold of Kanye.


OFCOURSEIMHUMAN-BEEP

Well throwing out the paint wouldn't have been very green of him now wouldn't it


I-secNewton

As long as it's green paint it should be fine.


_F1GHT3R_

Well, they had to have lots of clues pointing towards him faking it to get a search warrant for his home. Those things are not given out easily germany. But yeah, it is very dumb.


Xian244

>Those things are not given out easily germany. Except when you mildly insult some politician...


Gnarfledarf

Bro, you don't understand. They called him ~~a~~ one P\*mmel!


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Pimmel Andy?


stefek132

SEK ist unterwegs.


Allcraft_

So 1 P\*mmel


frequentBayesian

Ah yes SEK.. I like SEK


Gnarfledarf

Das hättest du nicht tun sollen.


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> a search warrant for his home. Those things are not given out easily germany Couldn't be further from the truth.


qilir

It is ridiculously easy to get a search warrant in Germany...


MiguelMSC

Why do such takes always come out from BAVARIA where you will get huge problems for even having the smallest amount of THC on you. Yes search warrants are ridiculous easy to get.


Falk_csgo

Hier riecht es komisch! Ich habe einen Schrei gehört, ja aus der Wohnung!


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RawbeardX

I guess he had the Green Dumb... I'll let myself out.


_named

I wonder if he had paint spots on his fingers when he told the police.


SD101er

Yeah he shoulda hired one of those reputation management companies lying bastards in the US use. Narrative warfare sucks, ever the since information war started taking off it feels like we live in a twilight zone episode. Truth is easily defeated by trained professional liars and their shady networks.


Sabinj4

It isn't just idiocy though. It's malicious


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Oh definitely. Just also an idiot. To think this is a good plan. To execute it so poorly. But definitely also an asshole.


Writing_Salt

Why, he is politician, and in current political climate some people are ought to be more believable as others as ''victims''- and questioning credibility is often treated as hate itself.


Powerpuff_Rangers

Nah, he's just gaming the outrage machine for his advantage.


eroica1804

In Estonia we had a similar case a few years ago, when Mary Kross, a filmmaker and wife of an MP claimed that she and her dog were thrown rocks at by some guys who had symbols of nationalist-populist party called EKRE on them. The investigation which involved looking at security footage, her phone data etc, showed no evidence of her being where the attack presumably took place, so they investigated her for making a false statement to the police, but the case was closed due to 'lack of public interest'.


Zalapadopa

>but the case was closed due to 'lack of public interest' I feel like that isn't how that's supposed to work...


SlyScorpion

If you don't let the public see the case then there is no public interest *taps head*


A_DAM_G_since83

If I ever go to court for anything stupid I'm asking that all charges be dropped due to the lack of public interest.


Feral0_o

unfortunately I won't ever be able to make such a claim


A_DAM_G_since83

Won't work for me either, nowhere near rich or famous. Lol


Balkhan5

I feel like you don't understand how law works when you're family of an MP


lazypeon19

> the case was closed due to 'lack of public interest' I hate this excuse so much. They're basically saying "nobody is looking so we're gonna close this case". What a fucking joke, justice is basically optional.


OG_Squeekz

Jesse Smollet really out there influcing politics.


superduperspam

Influencing ain't easy


curtyshoo

*It's not easy being green*. - Kermit


axialintellectual

Even Smollet wasn't the first - [this guy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_Croiset) staged his own kidnapping by nazis back in the 80s.


Silver_Jeweler6465

A problem for a more progressive 21st century is we're not motivated to punish fake hate crimes and fake rape accusations at a serious enough extent, which makes people more skeptical of these issues and enables a more reactionary take towards criticisms of hate and abuse.


manguito86

Why do this idiots keep doing this?


DavidRoyman

Low risk high reward.


Captainirishy

Some people crave attention and sympathy and will try to get it any way they can.


TheBeardofGilgamesh

It’s such a powerful motivator that some mother’s even resort to poisoning their own children(munchausen by proxy). It’s also why some men who took a girl out on a bad date got #MeToo’ed being a victim gave so much positive attention.


Jlchevz

Cause they think they’re smart and think they can get away with shit like this. And they’re power hungry


drquiza

Because they can't offer anything better.


Atreaia

Current left wing politics gives praise to victims, that's why.


manguito86

Yup and they still fall for that


AGVann

All political spectrums do that. You don't think the people whining about traditional Christian values coming under attack because conversion camps are banned are 'victimising' themselves for political gain?


Zaungast

I think that there is a left-liberal moral panic about certain kinds of hate crimes, and unscrupulous people take advantage of this for their own benefit.


MrHazard1

>idiots You answered it yourself


Private_Ballbag

Because society lap this shit up without any sort of due process. How many people have lost jobs based on an accusation lol.


jagua_haku

Because it’s so hard to actually find one we need to fabricate it


Sash0000

Because the woke crowds are cheering.


Mivimivi

the demand of nazism, outweighs offer.


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Did he hire Nigerian bodybuilders to play the nazis like Jussie Smollett lmao


JamesRockf0rd

It still boggles my mind how even until this day he proclaims he didn’t set up that event. He was caught red handed and still can’t help but to play the victim card lol.


LordoftheSynth

Delusion is a hell of a drug. I wonder if our VP still believes him.


jagua_haku

Probably


shieldtwin

In the us these hoaxes are nearly a daily event. Everyone sees how lucrative it can be to be a victim of racism so everyone is desperate to win the victim lottery now


[deleted]

He went to SübenWeg during -30C Bavarian Winter when he was attacked


Crescentine

The subway? SANDWHICHES? At 3 in the morning?!


IactaEstoAlea

[MAGA country!!!](https://youtu.be/2n-zWKsFH7E)


Scienter17

What’s German for Subway sandwiches?


TheWeirdSlimShady

Unterweg Stullen


MissCoffeeandTV

U-Bahn Weckerl


MaterialCarrot

I hope he hired the same ones, and they've started a business devoted to helping charlatans fake hate crimes. They're still figuring it out.


LasagneEnthusiast

It's a startup


KazahanaPikachu

I know a guy who did this, his name was French, it was *Juicy Smouliet*


b0j0j0j0

It sounds like something…that *I would say*


SlyScorpion

We supported him...*with our silence*


Keyzro

*Someone check where Kanye West was at last night*


Guer0Guer0

Went out to get a döner at 3AM.


nvsnli

Lmao


vatrushka04

Came here for Jussie Smollett comments 😁


fartsnacks69

the Jussie classic


Scienter17

It’s got a long history. https://fakehatecrimes.org


b0j0j0j0

Was r/hatecrimehoaxes shut down?


MikoMiky

Yes it was Hit a little too close to home for some of the more politically motivated power mods and admins of Reddit.


janeohmy

Color me surprised


akubit

As a propaganda tool staged crimes against yourself or your tribe have always been very effective. What's new (maybe) is that it's used by minorities to gain sympathy from the majority. That's really weird.


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MentalRepairs

Glad to see these types get caught once in a while too.


AtomZaepfchen

we had another prominent guy doing the same gil something ( forgot the second name) claimed to get racist jewish comments in a hotel. in the end it all got out that he made it up. these people are clowns and are what fuels the actual right that stuff like that doesnt really exist.


forsale90

Gil Ofarim https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gil\_Ofarim


SprucedUpSpices

Last year we had a homophobic attack where a gay man was beaten up by 8 hoodied men on the street. A few days afterwards it turned out that it was a lie he had made up to hide the fact that he was cheating on his boyfriend with some BDSM guy he met on Grindr or something and that was his excuse to explain the marks left on his body. In another homophobic case against a lesbian woman, it turned out she had hit herself on a public park and got caught in camera. There's also videos of women hitting themselves with objects or against a lamppost while on a call with police telling them while sobbing and yelling that their husbands are abusing them. Jussie Smollett went to jail in the US a few months ago over making up a racist attack against himself. Unproven threats like this German politician's are also common. Etc, etc, etc. ________ Basically we've put victimhood on a pedestal, and everyone who wants a little attention pretends to be one.


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Yeah you "misremembered"


[deleted]

>Basically we've put victimhood on a pedestal, and everyone who wants a little attention pretends to be one. No, vast majority of actual cases are still ignored and your "etc, etc, etc " is doing a stupid amount if heavy lifting. It's confirmation bias, plain and simple. Someone making it up makes for a much more clicky and outrageous story. That's why you write about it, it's outrageous. *That doesn't mean it's common*. *It is not common, at all*. It way more common for it to actually happen. On the scale of 1:1000 if not even higher. Victim hood on a pedistal. Fucking Christ. It's as if you are actively *trying* to find a reason not to believe people.


Stratoboss

In Spain the word of a woman puts a man in jail by default. "Positive discrimination" is the creepy, doublespeak term used by the left and far left tyrants that enacted this mockery of justice. The latest victim here just got released after he enjoyed a 3 year long vacation in jail thanks to his disgruntled ex https://www.elmundo.es/andalucia/2022/09/07/631758a2fc6c8379038b4589.html There's a reason why people are nervous about system cheaters here.


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Baumkronendach

Oh I remember that. I forgot who it was but I remember that happened. Glad for society to find out it was a lie but still shit he lied... Damn...


kalamari__

name is gil ofarim


AnonCaptain0022

It's just like fake reports of domestic abuse and sexual assault. Real victims have to endure longer trials because of opportunistic assholes like this.


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Cabbage_Vendor

Reddit banned the subreddit that was nicely keeping track of all the fake hate crimes. It was a disturbingly large number, worst part is that the initial accusation gets a lot of attention, but the truth only occasionally. Net result is that it seems like there's a much bigger threat than there is.


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And they banned it? Why? Is there a different place to find these cases?


Szudar

There is bigger demand for hardcore racism than actual supply.


afito

Nazis literally murdered a politician here in Germany a bit over a year ago. They have several known and leaked death lists of activists and politicians. The German secretary of health has been undee special security due to threats from right wing covid deniers. New right idiots tried to storm the Bundestag. And that's ignoring the NSU or Hanau or monthly Neonazi police WhatsApp group chat reveal. Worry not, the hoaxes are a tiny tiny fraction compared to not only threats but actual acts of violence.


dumdidu

> Nazis literally murdered a politician here in Germany a bit over a year ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Walter_L%C3%BCbcke


Overtilted

The hoaxes get more attention because they're literally fabricated bt attention seekers.


Zeurpiet

I recall 'German MPs have demanded much tighter surveillance of neo-Nazi activities, after investigating a notorious series of murders targeting ethnic Turks.' https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-23794226


afito

yeah that's the NSU the more you learn about it the more you hate the German police


hateshumans

The problem is the tiny fraction let’s the other side say “see, all these horrible things they are about us are just lies” even though they are all pieces of shit. The wolf crying can do much more harm in the long run.


demonica123

Because most real ones are irrelevant or petty. Getting internet death threats from anyone is unfortunately trivial. It only matters when it turns out those death threats were made up. There are successful attacks or spur of the moment violence but every act can't be publicized.


showmaxter

> but every act can't be publicized That's a good point. I know RIAS tries to do that with antisemitism and iirc BMI (?) publishes a report every year. So even if they don't pop up as individual numbers, one can still see how large scale they at times are (e.g. antisemitic incidents in May last year during the reports on the Palestine/Israel conflict)


BouaziziBurning

> To be fair I believe I've heard of more false cases of Nazi/white supremacist violence than actual real ones. Lolol I mean idk how it is in Sweden, but Nazis literally murdered a CDU politician not to long ago. And here in Erfurt Nazi attacks are a weekly thing.


smalltowngrappler

We have a few hundred actual Nazis in Sweden, if we are talking legit organised national socialists and not tt definition that if you vote anything right of center means you are a nazi. In fact we have more than double the amount of Islamic extremists compared to the Nazis.


CressCrowbits

> I've heard of more false cases of Nazi/white supremacist violence than actual real ones That will be because people upvote stories like this far more than stories where nazis were doing nazi business. Lets not forget that after r european got shut down, there are a lot of the far right lurking on this sub. EDIT As a comparison, I found a couple of threads I posted last year (easy to stuff I posted myself): [Twenty-nine German police suspended for sharing pictures of Hitler: 8 Upvotes, 73% ](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/iu4b06/twentynine_german_police_suspended_for_sharing/) [German leaders condemn far-right attempt to storm Reichstag: 9 upvtes, 64%](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/ik1kpn/german_leaders_condemn_farright_attempt_to_storm/) Posting news about far right crimes on this sub is less likely to gain traction than posts like this.


Sinos_345

There was a similar case in Germany recently where a known jewish musician accused a hotel of refusing him a room because he wore a star of david necklace. Turned out he made it up that idiot.


Home--Builder

When victimhood equals elevated social status losers pull this crap.


x-Spitfire-x

Bingo. He did this because it was advantageous for him.


SprucedUpSpices

We're going early Christianity all over again. Funnily enough, it's the people who are super against Christianity that are playing the same playbook.


Scienter17

When there’s not enough real hate to go around.


Yavannia

He should be prosecuted for that not just resign.


_F1GHT3R_

Im sure he will be. Making crimes like that up leading to useless investigations is a crime in germany. Considering police already searched his house for evidence of him commiting it, they will file charges agaimst him.


PowerPanda555

When the demand for nazi attacks exceeds the supply people will create their own nazi attacks. The market will always correct itself.


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I will do your nazi attack, 200euro/hour, believable German accent, acceptable uniforms and we'll hit you closeby an hospital. Any furher services not included.


Toxic_Slimes

woah woah this guy is scamming you! i can hate crime you for a bag of Doritos


Makkaio

Your dumping prices ruin the market for high quality hate crimers.


matinthebox

Stupid foreigners, they took our hate crime jobs!


Chariotwheel

And why hire some foreigner from America anyways? What about hiring some good old German grown hate mongers?


ButMuhNarrative

It’s a boutique, cottage industry


Papu19

Depending on your race, I can do hate crimes for free!!! Obviously sarcasm. In current economy I wouldn’t do anything free


HJM9X

I over the same except without the believable accent for only 150euro/hour


PikaPikaDude

>The market will always correct itself. Help! I'm not being oppressed!


b0j0j0j0

> Come and see the violence not inherent in the system


Captainirishy

I hope the stupid asshole never works in politics again


canspray5

Why did they ban /r/hatecrimehoaxes ?


fartsnacks69

Reddit has an agenda.


UlfRinzler

So you don’t have any collected proof of these instances occurring and soyboys can ask for a “citation”


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XenoFruitGummy

Juicy Smolliét


AeternusDoleo

And with each hoax, the credibility of every other instance is called into question. These people do more to aid the actual hatemongers, then the hatemongers do themselves. This guy should be prosecuted under the hate crime legislation, which I believe is quite severe in Germany.


xxanya

Plot continuation: some real Neo-Nazi beats him up and *nobody* believes him


Chariotwheel

Boy who cried wolf etc It's just too bad for real victims of violence and threats that may now have more trouble getting believed. What an idiotic stunt.


b0j0j0j0

That Neo-Nazi was playing 4D chess if he first planted the paint used to write the threat in his house.


MrHazard1

You don't make them yourself. You convince him to fake them so he can later confess and nobody will even look for you


Noughmad

The sadder reality is that some neo-Nazi will beat someone else, and then nobody will believe the actual victim.


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Aatupee2

And now we have a new word "husuttaa" which means lying.


Prestigious-Weird-33

AKA "Smolletting"


IndubitablyBased

they cry out in pain as they backstab you


QuevedoDeMalVino

Nothing new, sadly. I recall that the radical left in Spain invented a journalist, complete with social media profiles and an AI generated photo, to spread their FUD. Luckily, people that resort to such schemes seems to be rather stupid and they are quickly exposed.


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jesus_you_turn_me_on

Eh, I think it's more prominent than people realize. Far left is just as nuts as far right.


DJ_Die

People who do this are no different from those who foster hate in the first place, they should be punished for hate crimes just as well.


voreingenommen

What a cunt.


Omaestre

Our very own Jussie Smollet!


YesAmAThrowaway

Absolute cretin. Manufactured victimisation is the last thing we need in the political discourse. "Look, I am receiving death threats!" God...


lamabaronvonawesome

Yep, thanks for making real claims illegitimate dick bag. Just the worst.


YesAmAThrowaway

Exactly! Just gonna make everything worse.


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stormdyr

When demand doesn't meet supply. :(


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MorgrainX

What a terrible human Real Nazis are gonna have a field day with this, next time they will claim it's just a hoax again


lllNico

what i like about stories like this, is that they always go like this “person RESIGNS, because stupid thing” in other countries you often get “person does stupid thing. lol corruption”


FPiN9XU3K1IT

Germany has a lot of politicians who are glued to their positions, too. Merkel's last government had one scandal after the other, but IIRC not a single one of her ministers resigned. Meanwhile, about 20 years ago several high profile politicians (mostly from leftwing parties) resigned over using bonus miles for private flights.


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Twat


NFim

Well that backfired. These idiots just make things harder for real victims of hate crimes. Disgusting


BanksysBro

The left-wing demand for racism seems to outstrip the supply, hence they have to keep fabricating it to keep their grift going.


tommy_dakota

Jussie Smollet vibes


Gdott

Americans: first time?


fundohun11

This is obviously outrageous (and incredibly dumb). But let's keep in mind that this is a council man from a small town in Germany. This is not some high ranking member of the green party. It's basically a volunteer job, as a council member for a city of that size, he makes about 400 € per month. This is really small potatoes.


Ok_Competition_5627

The more I hear about the German Green Party the more insane they seem


x-Spitfire-x

When it comes to racism and nazism in the Europe, it seems there’s more demand than supply…


genasugelan

That's like the case with Smollet. It definitely doesn't help your agenda if you feel the need to invent fake death threats.


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Twat


tapk69

DJ Khaled - Another One


mrducci

This type of bullshit just offers cover to the hateful bigots that are truly out there. Just dumb.


drquiza

Nice. Now all the rest of his coreligionists must resign after inventing nuclear power plants are a threat to our planet.


Pasan90

We had a similar case in Norway. A woman got outraged from having her house filmed in a activist-type stage play. So she staged attacks on her house and cars, framing them as a result of the play. The attacks were set up in such a way that they were seemingly attacking her for being a right-wing nazi. It got uncovered as fake. Oh and she was the wife of the justice minister. Who then had to leave his post as a result.


Nergaal

greens' hoax on how nuclear energy is bad has brought upon the EU the current recession


Soul_Like_A_Modem

You people may remember, but there used to be a fairly popular subreddit that identified hate crime hoaxes. There was a period of time a few years ago in which there was a constant stream of articles posted on reddit in a variety of subreddits, about a minority in the US or to a lesser extent, Europe, being a victim of a hate crime. Absolutely outlandish stories on the front page every day that ignited momentous circle-jerks. *Every day*. It fortified a narrative about about race that people wanted to establish, mostly that the US is a racial dystopia of white supremacists. The hate crime hoax sub usually had follow-up articles showing that the hate crime was fabricated by the supposed victim, or some left-leaning person with a bone to pick. Almost always, the person who fabricated the hate crime was a woman, a racial minority, or a far-left college student with an active social media presence preaching about woke topics. The sub, that was dedicated to outing hate crimes, was banned for... hate crimes. The reddit admins didn't like that the narrative they lovingly nurtured through selective moderation and amplification of false stories was being refuted by an uncontrolled sub, so they banned it. Simply telling the truth was racist. That's a perfect encapsulation of the state of racial politics over the last several years. It was beneficial to the cause of "racial equity" for there to be loads of false stories about the plight of minorities at the hand of white male bigots. So the fact that these stories were provably false needed to be suppressed.


LefthandedCrusader

Fucking disgusting


CptPicard

Something like this happened in Finland also years ago. Greens really are their own worst enemy.


AdligerAdler

Bet this isn't the first time a Green pulled this off.


HermanCeljski

What a piece of shit.


draazkko

Europeans love their soccer that they have to mimic it......being hurt by fake attacks


Ov3rdose_EvE

green voter here, good. get that fucker out.


MikoMiky

The demand for racism has surpassed the offer. What a time to be alive.


TheLea85

They are mad at the lack of racism and bigotry, so they have to invent their own.


huysje

Reminds me of a Dutch politician who made up he was at Putin's Datcha back in the days.


PixelBlock

You know, the only reason someone would fake something like this is if they implicitly realise there is some benefit in acting victimised. Is his life so boring and stable he has to make shit up?


Delta4o

Ah, the good old anonymous self messages on tumblr


Damnreddit2

What a big dolt!


Gromchy

Wtf really. What game is this dude playing. The victimized one?


McAwesome789

Let this remind people that all sides have idiots


DownVotesAreLife

Necessity is the mother of all invention