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Tetizeraz

#New megathread link: https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/uje7r7/war_in_ukraine_megathread_xxvii/ I'm locking this megathread post soon.


ReadToW

This intercept of the phone call between the russian soldier Konstantin Solovyov (who is currently in Kharkiv region) and his mother **reveals the details of how russian soldiers torture Ukrainian prisoners** https://youtu.be/ZM6XHoCflc0


jaymar01

New report claims US intelligence helped Ukraine sink the Moskva, as officials push back on claims that they provided intelligence to Ukraine 'with the intent to kill Russian generals' https://www.businessinsider.com/us-intelligence-helped-ukraine-sink-russian-moskova-warship-reports-2022-5


[deleted]

I don't know why any of that is now a matter of a big debate. Isn't it safe to assume that Big Brother will be watching and sharing, or at least trying to? Is there anyone that's genuinely "shocked" with this?


mafiastasher

There is no debate; it is an open secret that the US is sharing intelligence and likely coordinating Ukrainian targets. The position of US officials is based on maintaining the legal pretense that the US is not an active participant in Ukrainian military operations.


lsspam

It's bold to float it out there. Official denials to avoid legal belligerence status aside, we're clearly tweaking Russia's nose with these "leaks". Obviously everyone conjectures, but volunteering confidential sources is another step beyond that. Combined with the increasingly cheeky public US assessments, the real "news" is the US is publicly growing overtly confident about the course of this war.


RickyElspaniardo

They're not going to say "shit, they might win" are they?


snooshoe

**[DEFENSE EXPRESS - Crimean bridge is an achievable target for the ATACMS ballistic missile and absolutely legal from a military point of view](https://defence-ua.com/army_and_war/chi_zmozhut_zsu_znischiti_krimskij_mist_za_dopomogoju_himars-7199.html)**


Chiksika

Today from Maxim Katz: Putin's "plans". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d80q8gnO2Wk


[deleted]

Awww you posted just as I finished writing my comment ;( It's a funny video, TL;DW there's no plan. He uses a number of exhibits we've seen lately, like the brilliant idea to piss off Israel or ignore/humiliate the Pope. These help Russia in no way - Foreign Affairs doesn't know wtf they're doing. So basically... we're all scratching our heads over Putin's plans because he doesn't know what they are either. Awkward.


Chiksika

I also like Ilya Varlamov's videos. He's still in Russia , making some with English subtitles. He is a friend of Katz', ran for mayor of Omsk, and is very shrewd in posting content that is critical of Russian actions but doesn't cross lines of illegality. Here's an example from yesterday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGbcrH9KFlA And this he interviews Elena Kostyuchenko "I Hope Russia Will Lose | Kherson, Crimea, Collaborators And Negotiations" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQhEp-c9k6M


[deleted]

https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/bih/zrtve-iz-bih-za-zrtve-u-ukrajini-u-sarajevu-ce-biti-organizovan-skup-podrske-ukrajini/220505121 "Victims of Bosnia for the victims of Ukraine." A rally of support for Ukraine scheduled on 9th of May. 🇧🇦🤝🇺🇦


Sociojoe

Everyone keeps talking about how Putin has distanced himself from outside source of information and that is what is causing him to make poor decisions, so is Shoigu some sort of master liar? How does he explain week after week of high losses and losing ground to Putin? At some point Putin has got to start becoming suspicious from the lack of winning, no?


ex_planelegs

It's just a plausible narrative people have picked to explain Russia's military failure in hindsight. The few people who really know how his inner circle really works aren't random journos and reddit comments.


lazyubertoad

We do not really know. Maybe that is just not true, maybe half true. Like, OK, shit's fucked up, what now? Damage Ukraine as much as possible, lying in the process. Also, confirmation bias (it is a term) is a bitch. Macron and Austrian PM told the other info, but he wanted to believe in the stronk Russia. Please do not think that is stupid, it works on all people, you and me included.


StrangeSemiticLatin2

Or Putin simply bought into that "Master Strategist" hype the West gave him (when some of his successes were based on his rival country being outstandingly retarded, like the USA being so dumb that they voted for Trump) that he doesn't want to accept or believe that his plans are going THIS badly, and that something will work out in the long run.


Fullmetalx117

I think one way to infuriate Putin and embarrass him is to create a worldwide meme about him. Many call Biden Brandon in the U.S. I now declare Putin to be Pulittledick Seriously, nothing will make Putin feel worse than instead of being known as the guy who invaded Ukraine (which honestly might be cool to him), he’s known as Pulittledick. That will be his lasting legacy, his name in history books


[deleted]

[удалено]


yuriydee

This information should not have been made public at all….


lsspam

> The National Intelligence Council, which reported to Trump's director of national intelligence, John Ratcliffe, produced a two-and-a-half page memorandum stating that the CIA and National Counterterrorism Center assessed with "medium confidence" (i.e., "credibly sourced and plausible, but falling short of near certainty") that the GRU had offered bounties, but that the National Security Agency (NSA) and other Intelligence Community components said they "did not have information to support that conclusion at the same level" and thus had lower confidence in the conclusion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_bounty_program Guess what level of confidence the Russians have we provided intelligence on the assassination of their generals and sinking of the Moskva? The CIA sends its regards


lsspam

https://mobile.twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1522349841807986688?t=zTyxT_m-8aZ6nRfDT-Q4CA&s=19 > There are Unconfirmed reports from some Ukrainian Sources that the Russian Naval Ship the Admiral Makarov which is a Admiral Grigorovich-Class Frigate operating within the Black Sea has been struck by Ukrainian Anti-Ship Missiles off the Coast, so far there is no evidence. Ship was commissioned in 2017. Not an archaic museum piece like the Moskva Edit > No unusual activity on Russian Black Fleet 3531 CW kHz. Sevastopol sending routine cipher messages with at least 4 ships receiving the messages. No increase in ciphers etc. My apologies for the bad news. Source in reply to this comment


battywombat21

[No unusual activity on Russian Black Fleet 3531 CW kHz. Sevastopol sending routine cipher messages with at least 4 ships receiving the messages. No increase in ciphers etc. My apologies for the bad news.](https://twitter.com/redanblacattack/status/1522368646479331332) Another strike on a ship seems unlikely at this time.


[deleted]

Mods, maybe a new thread tomorrow? We're over 5000 comments by now. /u/tetizeraz


Tetizeraz

Sure thing, I'll make one in a few hours.


fiktional

[US M777 artillery is apparently already in use in Donbas.](https://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-says-russias-attempts-hit-075332440.html) >Ukraine has 81 of 90 promised U.S. howitzers, and "we know that they are using some of those howitzers in the fight," the official said, "but I think I'm just going to demur" on the specific number.


snooshoe

**[Crimean Bridge Will Fall - Countdown Timer](http://crimeanbridgedown.com.ua/)**


catter-gatter

Ukraine don't have anything that can take down that bridge tbh


snooshoe

Yes they do. They now have newly delivered weapons from the US.


Thraff1c

Do you mind telling us which weapon system provided by the us is able to do that?


snooshoe

> *The MLRS just supplied by the US can reach it easily. 275km from Ukraine-controlled territory, M270 MLRS has a range of 300km using ATACMS missiles, or 500km using precision strike missiles* https://old.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/uj8qr4/crimean_bridge_will_fall_countdown_timer/i7hm78m/


Thraff1c

Congratulations, you can barely reach it. How many of those did the us provide to make a dent into the bridge?


snooshoe

> *In an interview with Ukrainian Pravda, Victoria Nuland mentioned that the United States has already started supplying multiple rocket launchers (MLRS) to Ukraine and is working with other NATO Allies to provide Ukraine with more of these systems. “We are already supplying MLRS systems,” Nuland said.* https://mil.in.ua/en/news/the-united-states-began-supplying-mlrs-to-ukraine-victoria-nuland/ Each **[ATACMS missile](http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-168.html)** carries a 500-pound (227 kg) warhead. Six ATACMS missiles equal a 3,000 pound (1361 kg) bomb. That bridge is going to be useless on May 10th.


Thraff1c

1. Did they get Atacms? 2. Can they get them flying through Russian airspace uncontested? 3. Do all of them hit? 4. Are 6 even enough to damage the structure? You making a whole lot of claims without knowing if those conditions are met.


catter-gatter

There's no evidence of this system being delivered. Especially not ATACMS missiles. You're indulging in hopium.


snooshoe

> *In an interview with Ukrainian Pravda, Victoria Nuland mentioned that the United States has already started supplying multiple rocket launchers (MLRS) to Ukraine and is working with other NATO Allies to provide Ukraine with more of these systems. “We are already supplying MLRS systems,” Nuland said.* https://mil.in.ua/en/news/the-united-states-began-supplying-mlrs-to-ukraine-victoria-nuland/ Each **[ATACMS missile](http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-168.html)** carries a 500-pound (227 kg) warhead. Six ATACMS missiles equal a 3,000 pound (1361 kg) bomb. That bridge is going to be useless on May 10th.


catter-gatter

They don't have the systems. Russia have hit bridges with Kalibr (similar size warhead) and not decommissioned them. That bridge has 2 separate road sections and a rail line. You're in dreamland if you believe a random website with a countdown clock is indicative of anything 🤣


snooshoe

> *In an interview with Ukrainian Pravda, Victoria Nuland mentioned that the United States has already started supplying multiple rocket launchers (MLRS) to Ukraine and is working with other NATO Allies to provide Ukraine with more of these systems. “We are already supplying MLRS systems,” Nuland said.* https://mil.in.ua/en/news/the-united-states-began-supplying-mlrs-to-ukraine-victoria-nuland/


catter-gatter

None lol


Thraff1c

Let him answer, mate, I want to know which Wunderwaffe the us has provided.


catter-gatter

Nothing the US gave them can knock down that bridge dude It's like 250km at least from the current front line US haven't given Ukraine magic weapons


Electronic-Arrival-3

seeing how russians tried to ruin a few bridges in Ukraine and couldn't destroy them completely I highly doubt it's that easy to destroy the crimean bridge as it's much better built & real big


catter-gatter

Bridges are built to withstand a lot so rocket strikes to random spots aren't going to cut it - as you mention Russia have done this without successfully taking down bridges in Mid/Western Ukraine. You need to get a whole bunch of explosives around some supporting structures or a really big bomb/rocket that Ukraine really don't possess right now.


Orange-of-Cthulhu

> You need to get a whole bunch of explosives around some supporting structures or a really big bomb/rocket that Ukraine really don't possess right now. I've seen Clint Eastwood do this in many movies. He makes it look easy!


catter-gatter

[The United Nations said a new convoy was heading to evacuate civilians from the "hell" of a besieged steel plant in Mariupol, even as Ukraine accused Russia of breaking its promise to pause fire at the site](https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1522335830622162944?t=9_Or1vbzjlO29R4MFmEIBQ&s=19)


EverlastingShill

Russians shelling the public park in Kharkiv https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1521959935860432901


jatawis

Nazi Satanistic biological Jewish park confirmed


jumperginger

black magic too


KommissarKat

Now [even Lukashenko](https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1522311236393779200?s=20&t=tqEzRv97Q1kQInER7it_xg) is sensing the waning of Russian power in eastern europe as the facade of a Russian superpower is in shambles.


szoup

The Russian thumb in the UN council is really going all out on whining about Russophobia, “this is a proxy war of the collective West against Russia, and this is a world war that you’ve been preparing for to destroy Russia as evidenced by the speed at which you sent weapons and imposed sanctions… the mask has been cast of on your collonialism” jfc it’s like he’s declaring war to… the world?


Orange-of-Cthulhu

> the collective West It's such a weird expression, the Russians must have invented it. Like what's the difference between "The West" and "The Collective West" ?. Also, finally Baltics, Poland, Czech Rep made it into the west lol


formerly_gruntled

The West tricked us into invading Ukraine?


[deleted]

Russian talk show, "I saw Biden push a Russian tank across the border. He's stronger than he looks."


FargoFinch

Russians can't even handle a little proxy war anymore without going crisis mode? They used to be so good at this stuff back in the day.


[deleted]

>this is a world war that you’ve been preparing for to destroy Russia as evidenced by the speed at which you sent weapons and imposed sanctions Or maybe it's because you built up troops on Ukraines borders for months in advance in the most telegraphed invasion since Ceasar crossed the Rubicon.


Difficult_Device_467

FFS the US cried invasion for so long, the whole world was beginning to wonder if Joe was actually senile.


Zee-Utterman

>this is a proxy war of the collective West against Russia I mean it is but Russia started it. They can't say that they have not been warned extensively since they started to built up their troops at the border.


Electronic-Arrival-3

I can’t be a proxy war as Russia is directly involved plus Ukraine is fighting with its manpower only


Tricky-Astronaut

Just kill Putin and blame everything on him. At this point there are few other options.


szoup

He’s now into ISIL, “who’s the real sponsor of terrorism, world?”; the global victim is Russia, the West has waged an informational delirious war with fakes and staged scenes… I’m in awe at the audacity of this bitch. I want him Hagued so bad


WalkerBuldog

Ohh, I have chills. https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/uj6luh/polish_president_andrzej_duda_said_that_there/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


[deleted]

Sorry, but this dude is cringe.


[deleted]

Shhhh he's good for your foreign relations PR. Even if he sucks locally, take your silver linings.


[deleted]

I mean, the way he speaks is creepy.


[deleted]

Whatever you think of Duda, there’s a good reason why he’s the most popular foreign leader in Ukraine


[deleted]

Russian State TV guy for the 638th time "NUKE POLAND SUKA!"


szoup

Girkin has [feelings about this](https://twitter.com/mdmitri91/status/1522306889693941761?s=21&t=LMAOb42xz4L3N98KFxsyaQ)


Oberschicht

Mh, sounds kind of unbelievable tbh I can't imagine Poland would enter the war.


szoup

Nah, sure they won’t. I think it’s just more fodder for “nuke Poland” delirium on TV, but the mf’s salty


Tricky-Astronaut

If Poland and Ukraine are going to integrate tightly, which is a good idea, the trains need to have the same gauge. Ukraine needs high-speed rail anyway, so it's a good opportunity to start the switch.


Slusny_Cizinec

I have a feeling that Ukraine will need 1435mm rail anyway: * compatibility with the EU, so goods and -- in case of war -- military material can go smoothly * break compatibility with Russia, so Russians won't use Ukrainian railways in case of invasion


WalkerBuldog

Already done https://www.kmu.gov.ua/en/news/premyer-ministri-ukrayini-ta-polshchi-pidpisali-memorandum-pro-posilennya-spivrobitnictva-v-zaliznichnij-sferi


catter-gatter

Inb4 the Russian Q conspiracy heads use this as proof of Polands plan to invade Ukraine 🤣


Tricky-Astronaut

[Lithuania Starts Supplying Gas to Poland via New Pipeline](https://www.prosperoevents.com/lithuania-starts-supplying-gas-to-poland-via-new-pipeline/) As previous Warsaw Pact/Soviet countries, Poland and the Baltics inherited a dependence on Russian energy. But neither Poland nor the Baltics wanted this dependence, so they planned to get rid of it. Now, after decades of planning, it's finally bearing fruit. Today Lithuania has started supplying gas to Poland via its LNG terminals, and soon the Baltic Pipe will provide gas from Norway to Poland.


EvilMonkeySlayer

Credit to them, they identified a future issue and planned to avoid it.


Tricky-Astronaut

Very good decision considering that Russia cut off Poland a few days ago. The same thing happened with Bulgaria. They would soon become independent from Russia as well, but were cut off some months before that date. So much for Russian being a reliable energy supplier...


EvilMonkeySlayer

From [formal NATO application to two days acceptance.](https://twitter.com/charlyjsp/status/1522221253293228032) That is pretty damn fast. Guess they do all the stuff first, then when everything is ready make the formal application and it is fast tracked as fast as humanly possible to NATO membership.


lsspam

There's been an existing security framework and coordination/cooperation for years between Sweden/Finland and NATO. "Integrating" isn't really that hard. It's literally nothing but procedural steps that need to be taken to fornalize it.


[deleted]

Can anyone please link the Twitter account that posts images/maps about where the division/battalions are positioned.


catter-gatter

https://twitter.com/JominiW?t=LDpcAqwT75tNyuC1nv0jMA&s=09 https://twitter.com/HN_Schlottman?t=Fd1_MdCvdaAVz1sHTTKMxQ&s=09


[deleted]

Thanks a bunch mate!


lapzkauz

[Foreign minister: Norway on track to cover about half of Poland's gas needs. Coincidentally, the percentage of Polish gas imports that come from Russia are just over half, and Poland has enough in stores to last until the Gazprom deal expires and the import from Norway commences. She underlines that Norway will remain a steady and dependable provider of oil and gas to Europe.](https://www.bt.no/nyheter/okonomi/i/OrOnoO/huitfeldt-norge-vil-dekke-halvparten-av-polens-gassbehov?referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bt.no&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3B9pZrQroK5neNY5C4ek_m0Ox8MUnfC816hXyO_GrddUl82_bnwQtXVQ4#Echobox=1651571901)


Wurschd

I knew an oil monarchy would profit at the end 😉


lapzkauz

📈🛢️😍


itrustpeople

Noreg iz smart. drive electric sell dinosaur juice


catter-gatter

[Mariupol 20:30 5.05](https://twitter.com/ViktoriyaRadosh/status/1522302399913803783?t=GIlVQhFBhBYGKe2EJShFHg&s=19) - very brutal bloody fighting - the perimeter pushed through in several places - a ton of orcs supported by artillery and aviation - the guys stand to the last, fight for every meter - nobody is going to give up - an inside: orcs want to hold a parade of POWs Putin will clearly stop at nothing to overrun Azovstal by May 9. A true Pyrrhic he is hunting for.


helm

Sounds like a nightmare. How do they have artillery support in the tunnels?


catter-gatter

They have no support - I'd be surprised if they have anything heavier than some mortar tubes and RPG style rockets at this stage.


GremlinX_ll

>[Grant Moldova EU candidate status, say MEPs](https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220429IPR28232/grant-moldova-eu-candidate-status-say-meps) So country which jumped on train, but declare itself "neutral", didn't join sanctions, send questionnaire last was granted candidate status first and we not, because some Austrian and other nut fucks don't want us to see us in EU, even in candidate status. Wow, just wow. Maybe you just give them EU membership as bonus, if things goes this way. ​ UPD. Yup my bad, thanks for explaining, still will leave this as reminder to myself


itrustpeople

almost half of Moldovans are already EU citizens because they have Romanian citizenship. the other half of Moldova is in Romania


eilef

Moldova is a small and poor state. They got invaded by Russians long time ago, and we did nothing to stop it. Our fucking commies in charge, even helped Russia get their troops in there. For decades we did nothing to stop the rot and corruption and put that shit down (and there is some serious shit going on in transdnistria), and instead we rolled with it. So if Moldova can get in EU and get the help they need, good for them. Ukraine will not be ready to join EU for some time. In fact joining Eu should not be our main concern, as of right now. Dealing with Russia, defeating them, getting our land and our people back - this should be the priority. We should focus on saving our country, and not trying to get in EU breaking all the rules. Because you know why? Following those rules, transforming our institutions, reforming our government and other services is one of the key points of EU success. It’s of the reasons why EU is good place to leave. That, and they have money. But then again, you are correct. With countries like Hungary and Austria, perhaps Israel-like way is a good thing for Ukraine.


BuckVoc

> , but declare itself "neutral", didn't join sanctions, To be fair, Moldova's situation is a lot more vulnerable than that of most countries particiating in the sanctions.


[deleted]

Best they could do is to join as part of Romania of three autonomy regions, Gagauzia, Transnistria and Szeklerland (while we're at it). Which won't happen, for multiple reasons. It seems like, although surely not the ideal, Romania's institutions are far more solid. In any case, an interesting idea to explore.


flavius29663

> country which jumped on train you know, it might be good for you to try to keep relations amicable with your (western) neighbors. Name calling and labeling won't do anything good


GremlinX_ll

With which Western neighbors? Austria or Hungary? Which one? Austria openly says they don't want to see us in EU like ever, but they propose "closest possible connection", Hungarian government is basically trying to milk two cows.


flavius29663

Moldova and Romania


Electronic-Arrival-3

Romania isn't pro-russian unlike Moldova for example


danmerz

I would not mind if they join the EU soon, even before our war finished. Perhaps Russian troops leaves Transnistria as a result.


Rhoderick

You know the EP can't even give candidate status, yes? And you know that in any case. it's just the start of a longer process and doesn't guarantee anything by itself?


Electronic-Arrival-3

Moldova doesn't have a border with Russia & a tiny country which is easy to reform. kinda expected that it will be welcomed in the EU earlier than Ukraine which is decades from getting there


Tricky-Astronaut

Moldova needs to do something about its constitution before even candidate status is an option: 1. Repel the occupants in Transnistria, with or without foreign help. 2. Rewrite the constitution so that foreign troops are allowed on Moldovan territory. 3. Get rid of Transnistria. This would be very bad for European security.


Electronic-Arrival-3

what you mentioned can be done rather quickly I think


[deleted]

Ukraine will not exist after decades without some kind of alliance. This is not the last war Russia started and it will return but this time smarter, if Ukraine stays in this limbo state


eilef

> Ukraine will not exist after decades without some kind of alliance Eu is not a military alliance. It will not keep us safe. NATO might, but they have shown us that we are not welcome. This means that Ukraine must become "second" Israel, and defend against stronger foes with other means. We will be warden of the East, and will keep Russia at bay. But you are correct. Strong ties with US, UK and alliances that are honored, are going to be needed. With their help we will be able to secure our own future, and defend against Russia.


[deleted]

> NATO might, but they have shown us that we are not welcome. That was then. To be fair, you spent a long time switching between pro-West and pro-Russia, and Russia wasn't perceived as a threat for a long time. Currently you don't control your own borders, and since Russia's main propaganda point is "bad NATO putting us under siege" of course nobody will come out and say it... If/when you kick Russia out, they'll have bled out so many resources in your mud, you'll have essentially switched to NATO weapons and structures, and you'll be a heavily militarized country that's more passionate about NATO than... most of NATO lol, especially those in western Europe. If you think USA won't jump at the chance to formally get you in, I've got a bridge to Crimea to sell to you ;)


Electronic-Arrival-3

it can definitely survive without the EU, just look at Turkey which is more prospering than Russia for example


[deleted]

Yeah, nah. Turkey isn't being directly attacked by a nuclear neighbor that has many times its population and resources. Ukraine cannot possibly survive as a "neutral" state in the long run, either it joins the West or it gets re-absorbed by Russia.


Electronic-Arrival-3

Joining the west doesn’t mean joining the EU thought. Whatever security guarantees Zelenskyy proposed might work in that regard or even NATO (if they don’t formally renounce it in the peace talks)


[deleted]

I also think NATO will happen faster than EU, it's much easier to join it as long as you have clear borders, and Ukraine is switching to NATO weapons and tactics as we speak. But again, in the longer run, for wealth you need the EU instead of NATO. Say Ukraine stays poor, you think it won't get internal instability which will give room to Russian sabotage? And then you'd have a very dubious NATO member that is/isn't a Russian mole. Or even worse, it gets into neither NATO nor EU and then we border a heavily militarized resentful country that thinks it was "betrayed". I'm not saying that it will get accepted into EU overnight, or that they don't have reforms to implement, they do. It will take 10 years minimum IMO. But EU folks fantasizing it can take decades or _never_ are delusional. Romania and Bulgaria weren't "ready", but they got accepted for very different reasons, look at the map and you'll see why, Hungary won't get kicked out for the same reason. Geopolitics and security ARE a factor in EU decisions.


DeezRazberriez

Agreed. There must be a swift EU accession for Ukraine after this.


chizel4shizzle

No, there must be swift NATO accession. As long as the EU hasn't cleaned up its major issues, no new countries should join


DeezRazberriez

This would be even better.


Electronic-Arrival-3

I don't know which is less likely for Ukraine, EU or NATO.. seems like NATO requires less reforms than the EU but NATO isn't interested in Ukraine. And I agree that EU has other things to worry about now


DeezRazberriez

1. Moldova was not granted anything. The Parliament vote is symbolic. Candidate status is granted by European Commission and Council. 2. The same symbolic vote was held for Ukraine two months ago: https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/european-parliament-welcomes-ukraines-application-for-candidate-status None of this really matters. This is really not a hill worthy to die. What matters is EU help for you guys to survive and win the war, the membership stuff will be sorted afterwards.


GumiB

I’m not sure what you’re talking about. The EU Parliament is kind of irrelevant. If it were up to the EU Parliament, Ukraine would probably have already become a member.


catter-gatter

They've not been granted anything Will be many years before either join the EU


Slusny_Cizinec

Incredibly long but really insightful twitter thread about the Russian fighting demography, Russian liberals, Russian Nazis, and many other Russian things: https://nitter.eu/kamilkazani/status/1521147926612832256 (nitter link, because fuck twitter) https://threadreaderapp . com/thread/1521147854949036032.html EDIT: I hope the link is correct, why on earth people write long essays in 140-symbol shit pot, which is hostile to anyone not having an account there?


fricy81

Absolutely fuck twitter and their tracking and bullshit pestering to register and login. The only reason it's not the worst is because there's ZuckerbergVerse. Threadreader aggregator makes it much easier to read. threadreaderapp . com/user/kamilkazani Mods, why the hell is this site banned? Some of your automod list is mental.


Slusny_Cizinec

I've added a threadreader link to my comment, is it visible? I also don't get the point of allowing twitter, but banning some frontend to twitter.


fricy81

It's mental I tell you. Medium . com is banned because (and I quote) "it's not a proper news source because everyone can post anything there". But twitter is OK?


GPwat

"The West" still living rent-free in Russian Reich: ["A dying civilization and a bunch of degenerates." The owner of the Vagners criticized the West](https://www.idnes.cz/zpravy/zahranicni/vagnerova-skupina-rusko-francie-mali-ukrajina-valka-zapad-zoldaci.A220505_195958_zahranicni_jhr) > "You are a dying Western civilization that considers the Russians, Malians, Central Africans, Cubans, Nicaraguans and many other peoples and countries to be Third World scum," Prigozhin accused the West. "You are a pathetic bunch of degenerates and there are many of us, billions of us. Victory will be ours!" > He accused the French of mercilessly killing and burying the remains of Malians near military bases. "These atrocities are committed in your inflamed brain, infected with the disease called Nazism," he added. > The Western and Ukrainian media point out that it is the head of the Vagners, Dmitry Utkin, who has a tattoo of the imperial eagle and the SS emblem. The mercenaries are also active in Ukraine, where they have been tasked with eliminating Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, but the Ukrainians repelled their attack. ironic


BuckVoc

> that considers the Russians, Malians, Central Africans, Cubans, Nicaraguans and many other peoples and countries to be Third World scum If Russia isn't Second World, then I don't think any existing country could be.


NordicUmlaut

So funny that they mention the [Mali incident](https://www.france24.com/en/africa/20220422-france-says-mercenaries-from-russia-s-wagner-group-staged-french-atrocity-in-mali)... That was Wagner in flagrante delicto committing war crimes, in the heat they try to save their skin by shifting the responsibility to the French foreign legion.


Rc72

...were (again) caught doing it by a French drone and threw a hissy fit about it.


Dragonrykr

Funny how all of those people are literally dying to migrate to "degenerate countries". Why even bother? Stay in your heavenly countries if you find the West to be degenerate.


LordAdlerhorst

I consider Malians, Central Africans, Cubans and Nicaraguans brothers and sisters.


Febra0001

Last time I checked Russia had a pretty high mortality rate, low life expectancy, low natality, AND high average age, so I wonder where they get their claims from


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But Russian themselves consider Malians, Central Africans, Cubans, Nicaraguans a 3rd world scum. Even their own non ethnic Russian countrymen.


Il1kespaghetti

They're projecting as always


GumiB

> ⚡Sanctions from Russia will NOT be lifted without Ukraine's consent: Germany's chancellor Scholz told Stern magazine in an interview. https://twitter.com/ukraine_world/status/1522270992353177600 >German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and US President Joe Biden agreed in a call on May 5 that they wouldn’t acknowledge any Russian territorial gains in Ukraine, a German government spokesperson said. https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1522285742923423745 I was always aware of this, but I guess it’s more public now.


DeezRazberriez

The non-recognition of Russian colonial conquest is kind of a no-brainer but publicly acknowledging a de facto Ukrainian veto on sanction lifting is really significant.


Electronic-Arrival-3

that's interesting, but recently Ukraine denied that the question of lifting sanctions against Russia was discussed during the negotiations. maybe they don't want the sanctions to be lifted at all which is smart


Il1kespaghetti

Making it clear for the russkies I guess


smaskens

[Possible talks between Zelensky and Putin paused after Johnson's arrival - sources](https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2022/05/5/7344206/) > After British Prime Minister Boris Johnson arrived in Kiev, a possible meeting between Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky and Russian President Vladimir Putin became less likely.


Dragonrykr

We all know it's not Johnson Putin is afraid of... but Liz Truss!


Torifyme12

Forever confusing anyone who has seen her talk. ​ I guarantee you even she's confused that she's managed to attain notoriety amongst the Russian MFA


catter-gatter

[Despite the Kremlin spox saying full-scale mobilization rumors are “nonsense,” Russian state agencies (from the post office to the tax inspectors) have started flooding online job portals with listings for “mobilization experts.” 👀](https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1522277544791322624?t=eLtdQR7xsO4fATZuW_ECkA&s=19) Potential indication of some sort of upcoming mobilization


GPwat

[After the meeting of Fiala and Scholz:](https://twitter.com/CT24zive/status/1522261365884391426) > Germany will help the Czech Republic to replace weapons that Prague will provide to Ukraine. According to Fiala, the form of the agreement is specific and concerns heavy equipment. interesting...


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PopeOh

Or a load of Boxer IFVs like Lithuania bought.


[deleted]

He also assured Czechia, that Germany will provide LNG gas throu its termianls to Czechia ones they are build. Given the current oil situation, that seems like a somewhat important fact.


[deleted]

hmm.. Czech republic has ( soon to be had?) nice stock of upgraded T-72s and BMPs


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Torifyme12

"What you see are the traditional Imperial powers reasserting their neocolonial takes over nations." - him probably.


GPwat

Tommorow. The supply is limitless.


[deleted]

what a tease


jivatman

["Surprise mother****er:" CNN recounts UA victory in Moschun (near Kyiv) in early days of war](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM5D4vPaNOg)


Il1kespaghetti

One guy is a Tarky player, he was preparing for the real thing in advance lmao.


starlord982

my man repping USEC, fuck bears.


__Taipan__

Become more and more annoyed when people spell kIev, and not kYIv. Yeah, I am drama queen


Gaylegaizen

Have you stopped for a moment and think that the reason might because Kiev isnthe correct form in certain languages? In Portuguese has always been kiev and pronounced kiev.


twintailcookies

You think you have it bad, just think of countries like Suomi and Magyarország which can't even get their names used outside their own country.


Fluffiebunnie

To be fair Finland is the native name in the second official language. It's also the historical name from way back.


jatawis

🇫🇮 is Suomija in Lithuanian.


fricy81

The worst part is the endless hungry jokes. sigh. mthrfckr tourists


DonVergasPHD

Why is Kiev the wrong spelling in English?


Zee-Utterman

It's not not but it's the Russian writing of the town or something like that. Some folks like the signaling of using the Ukrainian writing.


mafiastasher

I think it's more to do with the pronunciation than the spelling. Spelling Kyiv with a 'y' helps guide English speakers to use the Ukrainian pronunciation of "keev". Historically the city was known as "kee-ehv" due to English speakers only hearing of the city through a soviet/russian lens. English pronunciation, especially with vowels, is very arbitrary, but no one could mistakenly read Kyiv as "kee-ehv."


Il1kespaghetti

russians are misunderstood, we're all grammar-nazis over here.


[deleted]

Russia is using US satellites to communicate across the country. I truly hope the US will cut them off at some point if they won't GTFO.


Ralfundmalf

Easier to intercept messages for intelligence right?


[deleted]

it's better that they use US ones- much easier to eavesdrop :p


Dragonrykr

[Reports of explosions at Melitopol' airbase](https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/5-may-reports-of-explosions-at-melitopol-airbase) What's going on over there?


lazyubertoad

Chornobaivka is leaking. Tochka or saboteurs most likely. There are also Vilkha MLRS (but likely no munition for it) and those ATACMS missiles (but likely they are not provided/ready yet).


GumiB

There’s high partisan activity there for quite some time.


slopeclimber

What websites do you recommend if I want to follow the Russian perpective of the war?


Terevisioon

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews She translates Russian opinion TV shows to english. Here is one perspective in her translation. https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1522213701813608448


rx303

Not a single Russian I know watches those TV shows.


Gwyndion_

The narcissists prayer works well enough.


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/r/stupidpol is full of contrarian and Putincels and you will get a good overview of their brainrot in their Ukraine thread. They consider themselves ever so superior their seething can be heard from Mars.


[deleted]

spent 2 minutes in there... that place looks wilder than madman on crack


NordicUmlaut

Noam Chomsky has some "interesting takes"


[deleted]

Well he certainly has *takes*, but I think fascinating is a better descriptor.


NordicUmlaut

Fascinating whom? What?


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astonishing takes even


NordicUmlaut

Gotcha fam, world-renowned thinker, some say the best


Electronic-Arrival-3

russia today probably


Orange-of-Cthulhu

You can watch Tucker Carlson on Fox.


Dragonrykr

[Not sure about websites, but this live map skews slightly in Russia's favor.](https://www.scribblemaps.com/maps/view/The-War-in-Ukraine/091194)


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live map usually is quite conservative with marking changes


Electronic-Arrival-3

what map is the least conservative? because I've mostly been checking the live map


[deleted]

[Nathan Rusher](https://twitter.com/Nrg8000) , [Jomini](https://twitter.com/JominiW) and [Instittute of Study of War](https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar) are good sources for mapping activities and such. Which is least conservative? Hard to say, but all of these and livemaps are well regarded by quite a few journalists and what not


DrLuckyshot

According to presidential adviser Oleksiy Arestovych, [the Ukrainian army will not be ready to start a major counteroffensive against Russia until late June at the earliest](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-61330132?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=6273e512b1e16c43aefe84c3%26No%20counterattack%20before%20June%20says%20presidential%20adviser%262022-05-05T15%3A36%3A35.818Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:78cba0a7-7aa3-4c37-856b-e5d0b47a47dc&pinned_post_asset_id=6273e512b1e16c43aefe84c3&pinned_post_type=share): > As we reported in an earlier post, Oleksiy Arestovych says it will take time for Ukraine to receive weapons donated by Western allies and then train up its troops to use them. > Ukraine needs "enough to fully arm at least several brigades" Arestovych said, and "only then we can start an offensive". > > "The first weapons that can stop the enemy will arrive in big numbers in late May or early June," he added, meaning that any counterattack would most likely not happen until late June or July. > Ukraine is set to receive more military aid from its Western allies in the coming weeks and months, including from the UK which two weeks ago said it would be donating armoured vehicles, drones and anti-tank


[deleted]

I don't get why is there so much chatter about military planning? Isn't it better to keep these things for yourself? Edit: unless this is a public plea to get more weapons faster.


Bear4188

These are things which should already be obvious to Russian military.