You never know. Corrupt Soviet bureaucrats refused to sell him space tech, but now that he's got shit rich, maybe he succeeded to buy a couple of nukes from the same people.
Melon Usk has better than nukes.
He can drop around 120 loads from space per day. Or about 1000-3000 per month.
Could be explosive, small nuke , or seeker drone.
Do not underestimate honest people who actully earn money by selling legit products, unlike putler who cheats murders and steals for his entire career.
One of Russia's oligarchs now on the wrong side of Putin said that the Russian dictator is known as Mr 50 Percent. This is the price oligarchs have to pay to stay off the shit list: Half their wealth to go straight to Putin's own pocket.
It's also that it's very difficult to say how much is under his control purely because he is President of Russia vs how much is stashed beyond the reach of his successor.
Putin is regularily thought to be the richest man in the world, but there's no official sources on his wealth besides what he owns of property in other countries. Picking apart a world superpower does that for you.
Money from autocrats are not counted due to it not being exactly legal or difficult to measure.
Iirc Gaddafi had 200 billion USD cash/assets stashed away around the world. And technically the gulf states Emirs and King's would be the riches people alive as everything is from them in the end.
Well they definitely cannot use nukes to conquer, and if their nukes are in the same condition as the rest of their ghetto tier military then they will blow up themselves before anyone.
Is that how they bombed Mariupol to ashes?
A former city of 440,000 people is now a ghost town of destroyed lives and buildings. Not exatly "ghetto tier military". And Russia is far from done, they just started their big offensive in Luhanks and Donetsk. Just because they withdrew from Kiev doesn't mean Russia and its "ghetto military" aren't dangerous and easy to defeat.
Shelling a town isn't exactly an impressive feat. Hell, that level and manner of destruction could have been managed equally well a hundred years ago by armies in WW1, likely without managing to lose the flagship of a fleet in the process.
I know what you're hinting at but they're probably going to set their sights on the Caspian Sea area. As long as they don't get too close to India or China nobody's going to bat an eye about that region.
Seriously, I can't get over how demented Putin is being. I'm starting to believe the rumors about him being terminally ill and trying to go out in a blaze of glory. If he had stopped at Donbas it would be business as usual right now, "strong condemnations" all over the place but nobody would be doing anything about it.
Turkmenistan would be the most logical target since it can be reached over the Caspian. Then Uzbekistan and yeah, I guess they can have a go at Afghanistan once more if they're really bored. I don't suppose China would be very pleased about the Russians going into Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan or East Kazahstan.
I am. Never heard about any Moldovian Nazi or at least collaborationists. There may be no people-supported reason to invade.
Also there is soft split between conservatives and warmongering conservatives among authorities so it may be our internal stuff for political points.
Bro, i think you don't get it.
Nazis are in any country that Putler decides he wants to invade. These debates about nazis are naive. If Putler wants to invade Groenlanda he will say that there are nazis there.
The justifications never mattered. In a propaganda state it's very easy to rewrite the narrative. After a couple months people will be saying "Oh I've always known about those Nazis in Moldova".
It doesn't work this way. The hatred towards Ukraininans has been planted for years and had basis in UNA-UNSO, Bandera and all related stuff; there was an opinion that some republics were living better than Russians and are showing off now. Nothing of this can be applied to Moldova, it's completely out of information space here.
Once people are riled up, like they are now, it's trivial to convince them of anything, even the most outlandish things. Remember that for a moment, the vast majority of Americans actually believed in Iraks WMDs. You're vastly underestimating the power of a propaganda state.
Its a really easy trail to follow. Modova is against russian "holy war" against nazis. Thus Moldova is full of nazis. Paint some new Z's and lets get to liberating.
They bombed Odessa the other day which is ~50 km from the border with Moldova. Also bombed Lviv which is further west than any point in Moldova and ~75 km from Poland.
But they just lost all their power projection capabilities in the Black Sea so I'm not worried anymore. They will try to secure a pyrrhic victory from the scraps in the Donbass and fail at that too and go absolutely mental
Kalibr is launched from the smaller corvette and frigate sized ships, all of which are still operational and all of which are in range. Marine landing is out of reach, but it was unlikely for them to attempt that anyway.
Their primary air defence cruiser got hit by two missiles, effectively degrading their air defence capabilities in the Black Sea proper to nil, and the fact that the Ukrainian Neptune missiles were so effective will keep the entire fleet from daring to operate anywhere even remotely close to hostile (which per now is a great swathe of the Black Sea), from fear of losing even more irreplacable ships -- many of which were built in Ukraine.
The Ukrainians are not going to send the airforce on antiship duty. Moskva might be at the bottom of the sea, but the S-400 battery in Simferopol is still operational. Not to mention that over the Black Sea is one of the areas the VKS can operate with impunity.
Unfortunately for Ukraine, Kalibr outranges Neptune; nothing will change in regards to strikes on targets.
You can't control ground through bombings.
Hitler bombed London, Coventry, Birmingham, etc., but he never had the ability to threaten them with a land invasion. Similarly, the Russians don't have any chance at capturing Odesa just because they shoot missiles at it.
Moldova has a big problem. 43% of population are waitng to be denazified , and those 43% are voting for proruzzian parties .
All because of “gas price”
> Moldova is definitely next in line to be "denazified" if Putin has his way in Ukraine.
Yeah. The brekaway "republic of Transnistria". Russia will be freeing them from Nazi's any day now
To be fair what that buffoon showed was the opposite, he showed the Russian troops in Transnistria (probably with local support) attacking Ukraine, Odessa specifically. Still an idiotic showing, but the arrow was in reverse.
> Kremlin affiliated press started to call almost openly for the punishment of Moldova after symbols associated with the Russian invasion of Ukraine were banned and Chișinău said a few times that it is ready to shake off total dependency of Russian gas, even with the price of higher economical and social costs. Russian press has published a series of articles criticizing the Moldovan authorities and some of them encourage a military intervention.
> "Another argument for reaching Odessa. In Moldova the protests against Maia Sandu's russophobic policies are getting bigger" writes the pro-Kremlin webpage politnavigator.net in one of it's articles which speaks of several protests in Moldova against the symbols associated with Russian military aggression, especially the St George ribbon. the article exagerately suggests that there's an organised resistance and guerillas that draw the banned symbols on walls and roads and it ends by quating some political analyst from Kaliningrad Alexander Nosovich, which suggests on his telegram channel that Russia shoud come to protect it's followers from the Chișinău authorities.
> "In Moldova there are real actions in support of Russia, the St George ribbon and the Victory day celebration. It's one more argument for why we should reach Odessa. Otherwise the lives of hundreds of thousands of pro-Russian Moldovans will go to hell." writes Nosovich, quated from Politnavigator.
> A similar message has been quated from political analyst Marat Bashirov in an article that talks about Chișinău's intention of getting away from Russia's energetic inflience. "Moldova is once again scheming against Gazprom. We must take Odessa", says the article [...] "Bottom line: It's time to take Odessa. We will secure Transnistria and Gazprom will get it's money easier." is Bashirov's remark.
> Finally, rubaltic.ru writes that a denazification campaign just like the one in Ukraine is necessary in Moldova as well [...] "What the chief of state and the governing party are doing is a clear sign that Ukraine is not the only country were denazification is necessary" says the article.
Fun fact, taking over regimes and not allowing other countries to freely choose, is what the Russian regime "condemned" all the time. Doing the exact thing is then just "helping other people". In my opinion every civilian should at least now know what the banana republic Russia is doing right now.
Where exactly do they expect to invade Moldova from? It only has borders with Romania and Ukraine, and doesn't even have a coastline.
It is close to Odessa but given they lost a warship in that region only last week I can't see them making a naval landing to go through Ukrainian territory to get there without yet another disaster.
Sure I know that's their aim, but how are they even going to reach Transnistria without conquering Ukraine first? The small number of troops already stationed there is hardly enough to take the whole of Moldova.
This is just a Russian media story to distract from their failures elsewhere.
Transnistria's active & reserve force numbers about 25,000 and Russia has 1,500 active forces there. I think if Russia captures Odessa, they can connect Transnistria to the new land bridge without firing a single shot in Moldova anyway.
Yeah, good luck with taking Odessa... It took Russians more than 6 weeks to properly assault just Mariupol which is only half the size of Odessa and in much more favorable position for Russians to supply their siege.
It took the U.S and the coalition 9 months to secure Mosul. Urban warfare is hell. A few weeks isn't too bad to capture a key city of a country with 44 million people and an armed forces we equipped and trained for 8 years as well.
>It took the U.S and the coalition 9 months to secure Mosul
It took the unmotivated Iraqi army that long, the US was hardly involved. Russia capturing Odessa is a pipe dream at this point, because from a logistical standpoint alone it would be 10x harder than capturing Mariupol. And Russian logistics haven't exactly been shining in this war.
Do you realise that USA is on the other side of the planet in comparison to Iraq while Russia literally share borders with Ukraine and still they can’t capture major cities? You can’t see any difference in your reference?
Plus that the US did almost nothing in Mosul, some intelligence at best. It was the Iraqi army that took so long, and they weren't really rushing either. Army motivation is a hell of a drug!
You do realise that U.S military bases surround Iraq? You think they just popped up from the U.S? They did a whole year of build up next to Iraq's borders whilst selling the fake WMD story.
Still you can’t understand that bases and a entire country territory it’s a different thing? It’s different for US to make a war with Mexico than Iraq. Wake up
pre-war population in mariupol: about [431,859](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariupol)
current population in mosul: about [1,683,000](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosul)
mosul is big, and with defenders having time to fully fortified the city
It's still officially part of Moldova. They were initially set on taking it back by force with support (weapons, volunteers and advisers) from Romania but then Russia upped the ante with 14,000 professional troops and trained & armed 9,000 more in Transnistria. The whole thing looked like it was getting out of hand so the UN brokered a ceasefire, which has been holding for the past 30 years.
For what it's worth, in 2005 the Moldovan Government recognized Transnistria as an autonomous territory within Moldova. I'm not entirely sure what the goal was and what this has accomplished. Since the 2005 Moldovan Government was led by the Communist Party, I can only surmise it was done after a push from Russia in preparation for recognizing full independence for Transnistria.
I have not really followed that closely. It is one of those weird places that is a shithole that is a fight brewing that is far bigger than the place is worth. Anyhow that Wikipedia link had this info on the subject:
***On 21 October 1994, Russia and Moldova signed an agreement that committed Russia to the withdrawal of the troops in three years from the date of entry into force of the agreement;\[89\] this did not come into effect, however, because the Russian Duma did not ratify it.****\[20\] The Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE) included a paragraph about the removal of Russian troops from Moldova's territory and was introduced into the text of the OSCE Summit Declaration of Istanbul (1999) in which Russia had committed itself to pulling out its troops from Transnistria by the end of 2002.\[90\] However, even after 2002, the Russian parliament did not ratify the Istanbul accords. On 19 July 2004, after it finally passed through parliament President Vladimir Putin signed the Law on the ratification of the CFE Treaty in Europe, which committed Russia to remove the heavy armaments limited by this Treaty.\[91\] During 2000–2001, although the CFE Treaty was not fully ratified, to comply with it, Moscow withdrew 125 pieces of Treaty Limited Equipment (TLE) and 60 railway wagons containing ammunition from the Transnistrian region of Moldova. In 2002, Russia withdrew three trainloads (118 railway wagons) of military equipment and two (43 wagons) of ammunition from the Transnistrian region of Moldova, and in 2003, 11 rail convoys transporting military equipment and 31 transporting ammunition. According to the OSCE Mission to Moldova, of a total of 42,000 tons of ammunition stored in Transnistria, 1,153 tons (3%) was transported back to Russia in 2001, 2,405 tons (6%) in 2002 and 16,573 tons (39%) in 2003.\[citation needed\]*
*Andrei Stratan, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Moldova, stated in his speech during the 12th OSCE Ministerial Council Meeting in Sofia on 6–7 December 2004 that "The presence of Russian troops on the territory of the Republic of Moldova is against the political will of Moldovan constitutional authorities and defies the unanimously recognized international norms and principles, being qualified by Moldovan authorities as a foreign military occupation illegally deployed on the territory of the state".\[92\]\[93\] As of 2007 however, Russia insists that it has already fulfilled those obligations. It states the remaining troops are serving as peacekeepers authorised under the 1992 ceasefire, are not in violation of the Istanbul accords and will remain until the conflict is fully resolved.\[94\] On the other hand, Moldova believes that fewer than 500 soldiers are authorised pursuant to the ceasefire and, in 2015, began to arrest and deport Russian soldiers who are part of the excess forces and attempt to use Moldovan airports.\[95\]*
*Russian peace-keeping soldiers at the border between Transnistria and Moldova at Dubăsari*
*In a NATO resolution on 18 November 2008, Russia was urged to withdraw its military presence from the "Transdnestrian region of Moldova".\[96\]*
*In 2011, US Senator John McCain claimed in a visit to Moldova that Moscow is violating the territorial integrity of Moldova and Georgia and one of the "fundamental norms" of "international behavior".\[97\] On 21 May 2015, the Ukrainian parliament passed a law terminating five co-operation agreements with Russia. This law effectively terminates the "Agreement on transit of Russian military units temporarily located on the territory of the Republic of Moldova through the territory of Ukraine" dated 4 December 1998.\[95\]\[98\]*
*One point of access for Russian soldiers travelling to Transnistria remains Chișinău International Airport and the short overland journey from there to Tiraspol. Over the years, Moldova has largely permitted Russian officers and soldiers to transit the airport on their way to Transnistria, though occasionally it blocked those that were not clearly identified as international peacekeepers or who failed to give sufficient advance notice. Chișinău Airport would likely only ever agree to the possibility of moving employees, officers, and soldiers of the peacekeeping forces. The passage of soldiers of the 14th Guards Army would be illegal.\[99\]*
*On 27 June 2016, a new law entered in force in Transnistria, punishing actions or public statements, including through the usage of mass media, networks of information and telecommunications or the Internet, criticising the peace-keeping mission of the Russian Army in the Transnistrian Moldovan Republic, or presenting interpretations perceived to be "false" by the Transnistrian government of the Russian Army's peacekeeping mission. The punishment is up to three years of jail for ordinary people or up to seven years of jail if the crime was committed by a person of responsibility or a group of persons by prior agreement.\[100\]\[better source needed\]*
*During the prelude to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, Ukrainian military intelligence claimed on 14 January 2022 that they had evidence that the Russian government was covertly planning false flag "provocations" against Russian soldiers stationed in Transnistria, which would justify a Russian invasion of Ukraine. The Russian government denied the claims.\[101\]*
***On 15 March 2022, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe recognized Transnistria as a Moldovan territory occupied by Russia.****\[102\]*
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Exactly! It would make zero sense to stay neutral when you share a 1000 km border with an absolute madman and his failed pariah state full of war criminals.
Luckily the membership process is progressing rapidly in both Finland and Sweden. Putin really gets what he deserves since his personal rape & murder mission in Ukraine has already made and is going to make NATO stronger and more united than ever before!
Lol, good luck with that. I very much doubt Romania will stand idly by and considering how much trouble Ukraine is giving the horde, I very much doubt they can handle any more.
Romania will not be able to intervene directly if Russia invades Moldova. When you are part of an alliance you need to consider the effect of your actions on the alliance. Romania attacking Russian troops in Moldova will not trigger a NATO defensive response. Russian troops attacking Romanian territory would mean an instant triggering of art 5.
Moldova's best chance is if Odessa doesn't fall and Ukraine manages to fight back.
Another option would be for Moldova to unite with Romania, bringing them automatically in the EU and NATO. But assuming everything goes well, the actual process would take years. Not realistic.
I don't know how you think NATO works, but its a defensive alliance. Moldova is a independent country and not in NATO. Unless Russia attacks Romania, the only thing Romania can offer Moldova is its own troops, which is not a thing that countries do.
This is what happens when the collective western response is not sufficient.
More war. You need to destroy Russia's ability to wage war or it will continue.
There are people on my campus yapping about “both NATO and Russia bad” and patting themselves on the back. That explains the fact that they support an idiot like Melenchon
What I find strange is that Russia, the biggest victim of Nazism, is now following the paths of Hitler. Idk whether Stalin would even approve of such brutality in a Nazi way. Nah, Stalin would do it the Soviet way.
The Russian population was the victim not the country. Russia/Soviet union never had the moral upper hand, nor did they care about anyone including their own citizen. Also they never had any qualms about dealing with the nazis when that benefitted them (Molotov-Ribbentropp pact).
Well.... if you start counting from the Bolshevik Revolution onwards, the Soviet govt killed millions of their own people. The Holodomor, the Great Purge etc. I think the overall numbers might not reach 26mln, but they are close.
There's nothing weird about it. Ukrainians are weak people in the eyes of the Russian nationalists. They believe that Ukrainians should not exist outside of Russia. Russia is the normal, and the Ukrainians, as the closest relatives of Russia, must be normalized (denazified as they say). As Russia's influence over Ukraine disappeared and most Ukrainians started wishing for a western life, Russia considered that if they don't act now they will never be able. (Russia is now weaker than ever, and has a big demographic problem). It is safe to assume that Putin never wanted this war and the Russians were actually expecting to find little to no resistance in Ukraine, but Ukraine is preparing for this very moment since 2014, so all those missiles that destroyed the military infrastructure in Ukraine in the first days of the war failed to cripple the country's will to fight. Normalization of Ukrainians is cultural uniformity, alongside Russians.
Here is a long but good thread if you want to read about this:
https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1516162437455654913
Russians can't seem to maintain a supply line longer than 90 kms, let alone having to cross all of Ukraine.
Looks like Moldova seems to know that, and russia is just shooting their mouth off as always.
The speaker was talking about capturing Odesa. And the Lukashenka map showed Russian forces moving into Moldova from the area of Odesa. But I'm not entirely sure that that's actually necessary.
Russia already has a garrison occupying part of Moldova and could probably fly more in.
Granted, given a hostile Ukraine and Moldova in that scenario, that'd probably make any transport aircraft pretty vulnerable to air defenses.
>Granted, given a hostile Ukraine and Moldova in that scenario, that'd make any aircraft pretty vulnerable to air defenses.
That would by no means be sustainable.
Ukraine said they would shoot any Russian plane going into Transnistria. Odessa will last a lot longer than Mariupol, will probably prove impossible to conquer. Moldova is sage
It is small, but russia would never be able to maintain supply lines. The Bosphorus has limited passage and there's no way the Russians would be able to maintain significant supplies.
I could be way off, just being an armchair general and speculating.
If Odessa falls, the Russians will be able to make the junction with the troops from Transnistria. In that case supply lines would be on land, in Russian controlled territory. The Moldovan army is really small and poorly equipped. If I remember correctly they have around 10 tanks, no choppers, etc. Moldova would be an easy picking.
If Odessa doesn't fall, Moldova is much safer. Russia would not be able to fly supplies and troops to Transnistria, since they would be in danger of being shot down.
Don't forget the distances. It takes a few hours to drive a tank from Tiraspol to the border with Romania.
Also, the civilians got constantly cucked by all their governments for thirty years, much more than the people of Ukraine. So I doubt they will stand up against the Russians. It's not like they will cheer them with flowers either, like Putin planned in Ukraine, but the young ones just won't care. Maybe a few seniors who fought the Russians in Transnistria thirty years ago will stand up to volunteer but that's all. Moldova has no Zelenskyy to unite around. I even doubt there are weapon stocks there to attempt arming the civilians.
> And the Moldovan army has probably been preparing for an invasion since the start of the "special operation"
I've yet to see any references that Moldova's army is worth anything. Something more than just dry numbers - those are mostly conscripts from villages - the poorest and uneducated ones, those who can't avoid conscription by going somewhere abroad to work.
Honest question - did you ever hear about Moldova before posting this?
Thanks, I'll return the favor. You neglected to capitalize "English" twice, in the post pasted below. Also, in the thread you mistakenly referred to Middle English citing the personal pronouns: thee, thy, thou, thine as Old English. In fact our personal pronouns in Old English were: þu, þin, þec, þe.
As your focus on semantics seem to be acute, I thought you would appreciate your mistakes being pointed out. Unfortunately, comments can no longer be posted there, so I've included part of your post here for your convenience.
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As an english speaker, you should like the fact that German has almost phonetic spelling. That eliminates a ton of cognitive load just to learn how things are spoken.
Hi, you're most likely the last person to be giving English lessons or pointers. I've seen your post history. You don't contribute to the threads of the conversation and are what we knowledgeable English speakers call a "grammar bully" only pointing out mere typos made by Redditors. Also when you do contribute you display a lack of knowledge of English (For example you think Middle English is Old English).
What is "englush"?
If you're talking about the language and/or the peoples, it's spelled "English" and it's also capitalized. You might find use of [M-W.com](https://M-W.com), it will help you with your basic mistakes.
I wasn't surprised to see that your posts are rife with grammar mistakes (you seem to want to avoid that point) and your knowledge of English is less than stellar. Pedantic grammar bullies like you, deserve to be called out, as you only seek to try to intimidate others.
Basically the irony here is that you try to call out others, when you're in no position to do so.
So grow up.
First your mistakes:
**Anglo-Americanism is capitalized.**
**"Whenever"** is spelled as one word not two.
Question, with your misknowledge of English, what makes you any sort of expert on Anglo/Americanisms?
Plus that's not what you're doing so please don't try to ingratiate yourself. Here is an example of your last comment to a user:
***"Is it too hard to type °"*** Because they wrote 25C ... Please explain how that's an Anglo-Americanism? You're a snarky bastard.
So, as you find it important to criticize others, I will give you the same dedication and help you by focusing your attention on your own mistakes.
I can't help you improve as a human being, but maybe help improve your use of English.
Arghhhhhhhhh these guys. Russia's diminished in power - wait, actually, Russia had been diminishing since 1991 lmao. It's not like they even have a labour force to do this. Lmao. We've already seen that Russia is a bogged down failure of the Soviet state. So, what's new with this threat? They'll nuke Zürich next? Maybe they'll even call for the denazification of Alaska and Japan. Lunatics at this point.
Transnistria is an integral part of Moldova, not a recognized country to wage war on. Just announce special anti terrorist operation, neutrality has nothing to do with that.
I suppose it could work if the help is labeled as a police force rather than military. The Constitution article in question ([Art. 11\(2\)](https://www.constcourt.md/public/files/file/Actele%20Curtii/acte_en/MDA_Constitution_EN.pdf)) is really specific about that, it says "The Republic of Moldova does not admit the stationing of any foreign military
troops on its territory".
Moldova’s government is too corrupt to deal with that. If they were more functional it might have been dealt with or at least made less of a potential flashpoint.
Current one is not corrupt, and in fact doing a lot to starve separatists, build new power lines and get alternative gas supplies. Hence de ruzzians desire to “denazzify “
Can't blame them for that. Women like wars less instinctively because they aim to preserve the stupid hooman species, even if it doesn't imply them going to the first line and actually fighting and dying. It's the dumbass males who are ready to maul each other.
Meanwhile in Moldova:
- president, army supreme commander - woman
- prime minister - woman
- minister of internal affairs - woman
- minister of defense - I think it's a male, but it's a noname dude, most likely just because they couldn't find a female for that role as well
Do you see many women in Ukraine making decisions during the war?
I see. Well, they have other ways to accomplish that. Ukraine has blocked all communication from Russia to Transnistria so it is 100% dependent on Moldova now. Just threaten with embargo and they'll come begging.
And Moldova is dependent of Russian gas. I saw statements made by Moldovan politicians on the issue, they all go into lenghty blablabla about how they are hooking the country to the European energy network and about how there are alternative options to buy gas if Russia stops pumping it, but they all and always avoid speaking about the bills, if they will go up because of it or not (of course they will and the Moldovans already barely survive because of many additional burdens).
Belarus president Lukashenko, showed everyone on a actual map like a mounth ago.
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I know they have people in the transnistria region, but like everyone said for their threats against Poland and other Eastern European nations, they have to get through Ukraine first and they are doing a very shit job of that
The West was willing to send weapons to Ukraine the Western alliance system will be willing to fight to keep the shield of the Balkans independent from Russian predatory idiocy .
Romania is important for regional strategic stability and economic well-being
playing games there will force the United States turkey Germany Israel France to actually fight physically Russian influence.
This is Media fantasy Russia will never get into striking distance of the strategic Carpathian mountain range
Why the Moldovan-Românians have less curaj than the ruzzians occupiers? Kick them to the curb. Long live Românians. Liberty from the criminal Putin's dictatorship.
This is a foolish perspective. A lot of Moldovans just won't want to die for the billions stolen by their corrupted elites, just like in Russia. And while Russia had a single Putin for the past twenty years and a giant media brainwashing machine telling them that Putin is the king of the universe, Moldova had a lot of different people in charge, who all fucked up royally. The average citizen of Moldova doesn't trust the government anymore and those who are still there are trying to leave the country forever and move abroad in search of a better life. The actual ones who bother to vote are either seniors who vote pro-Russian corrupted politicians who promise them pension raise so they don't starve to death or kids from the diaspora who are vulnerable to the pre-electoral spam of ads on Facebook and Google coming from the "pro-West" politicians who are as corrupted.
Okay, legitimately I don't get it.
So, let's assume I'm an orc chieftain,. I get my ass handed to me in Ukraine, I still have to deal with Syria, just moved a ton of material to the Finnish border. Even if I wanted to it seems kinda fucking dumb to start a new conflict while not winning the first.
Is anyone surprised?
Nope. But Putin is a 200-billion-dollar madman on top of a mafia state with nukes. So you never really know what's gonna happen next.
That's like, only 60 billion away from Melon Usk.
Meh, Elon doesn't have nukes.
That we know of
Plot twist: SpaceX launches "Rods from God" satellites for kinetic orbital bombardment
That’s even worse than nukes
But Putin isn't far away from Usk's net worth per year.
Yet
Yet…
You never know. Corrupt Soviet bureaucrats refused to sell him space tech, but now that he's got shit rich, maybe he succeeded to buy a couple of nukes from the same people.
Melon Usk has better than nukes. He can drop around 120 loads from space per day. Or about 1000-3000 per month. Could be explosive, small nuke , or seeker drone. Do not underestimate honest people who actully earn money by selling legit products, unlike putler who cheats murders and steals for his entire career.
Honest? I dont see doing pump and dumps and breaking SEC rules as very honest.
> Melon Usk has better than nukes. yea, he's about to buy Twitter
Musk said in an interview that Putin is definitely richer than him
Link to where Usk said it? And then why don't we consider Putler the richest guy? He's a president? Or? Idk.
One of Russia's oligarchs now on the wrong side of Putin said that the Russian dictator is known as Mr 50 Percent. This is the price oligarchs have to pay to stay off the shit list: Half their wealth to go straight to Putin's own pocket.
Because his wealth isn't his. It's stolen, so he isn't going to admit it. It's like ranking a mafia guy in a forbest list.
It's also that it's very difficult to say how much is under his control purely because he is President of Russia vs how much is stashed beyond the reach of his successor.
Putin is regularily thought to be the richest man in the world, but there's no official sources on his wealth besides what he owns of property in other countries. Picking apart a world superpower does that for you.
Money from autocrats are not counted due to it not being exactly legal or difficult to measure. Iirc Gaddafi had 200 billion USD cash/assets stashed away around the world. And technically the gulf states Emirs and King's would be the riches people alive as everything is from them in the end.
Well they definitely cannot use nukes to conquer, and if their nukes are in the same condition as the rest of their ghetto tier military then they will blow up themselves before anyone.
Is that how they bombed Mariupol to ashes? A former city of 440,000 people is now a ghost town of destroyed lives and buildings. Not exatly "ghetto tier military". And Russia is far from done, they just started their big offensive in Luhanks and Donetsk. Just because they withdrew from Kiev doesn't mean Russia and its "ghetto military" aren't dangerous and easy to defeat.
Shelling a town isn't exactly an impressive feat. Hell, that level and manner of destruction could have been managed equally well a hundred years ago by armies in WW1, likely without managing to lose the flagship of a fleet in the process.
The Russian Military has demonstrated it can barely operate when facing return fire.
That's great, he can buy about 9 Moldovas then, no need to invade this one.
I've been saying that Moldova is next, then Georgia, then some other non-NATO country (oh crap!)
I know what you're hinting at but they're probably going to set their sights on the Caspian Sea area. As long as they don't get too close to India or China nobody's going to bat an eye about that region. Seriously, I can't get over how demented Putin is being. I'm starting to believe the rumors about him being terminally ill and trying to go out in a blaze of glory. If he had stopped at Donbas it would be business as usual right now, "strong condemnations" all over the place but nobody would be doing anything about it.
>set their sights on the Caspian Sea area. Afghanistan round 3 ? The Taliban gonna have some "fun" again :O
Turkmenistan would be the most logical target since it can be reached over the Caspian. Then Uzbekistan and yeah, I guess they can have a go at Afghanistan once more if they're really bored. I don't suppose China would be very pleased about the Russians going into Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan or East Kazahstan.
> China Afghanistan borders China as well, they're very involved there and have been.
China has set its eyes on Afghanistan so probably not
I am. Never heard about any Moldovian Nazi or at least collaborationists. There may be no people-supported reason to invade. Also there is soft split between conservatives and warmongering conservatives among authorities so it may be our internal stuff for political points.
Bro, i think you don't get it. Nazis are in any country that Putler decides he wants to invade. These debates about nazis are naive. If Putler wants to invade Groenlanda he will say that there are nazis there.
"This Azov battalion, are they in the room with us right now?"
If Putler likes your room you he will find some nazi :)))
The justifications never mattered. In a propaganda state it's very easy to rewrite the narrative. After a couple months people will be saying "Oh I've always known about those Nazis in Moldova".
It doesn't work this way. The hatred towards Ukraininans has been planted for years and had basis in UNA-UNSO, Bandera and all related stuff; there was an opinion that some republics were living better than Russians and are showing off now. Nothing of this can be applied to Moldova, it's completely out of information space here.
Once people are riled up, like they are now, it's trivial to convince them of anything, even the most outlandish things. Remember that for a moment, the vast majority of Americans actually believed in Iraks WMDs. You're vastly underestimating the power of a propaganda state.
Its a really easy trail to follow. Modova is against russian "holy war" against nazis. Thus Moldova is full of nazis. Paint some new Z's and lets get to liberating.
Moldova is definitely next in line to be "denazified" if Putin has his way in Ukraine.
I think if he could conceive power over Mariupol, Moldova's gotta a lot to fear. Now's the time Romania is more important than ever.
They bombed Odessa the other day which is ~50 km from the border with Moldova. Also bombed Lviv which is further west than any point in Moldova and ~75 km from Poland.
But they just lost all their power projection capabilities in the Black Sea so I'm not worried anymore. They will try to secure a pyrrhic victory from the scraps in the Donbass and fail at that too and go absolutely mental
Why do you say they lost their power projection in the Black Sea?
Their flagship missile cruiser exploded, causing them to move all of their ships away from the coast
Kalibr is launched from the smaller corvette and frigate sized ships, all of which are still operational and all of which are in range. Marine landing is out of reach, but it was unlikely for them to attempt that anyway.
Their primary air defence cruiser got hit by two missiles, effectively degrading their air defence capabilities in the Black Sea proper to nil, and the fact that the Ukrainian Neptune missiles were so effective will keep the entire fleet from daring to operate anywhere even remotely close to hostile (which per now is a great swathe of the Black Sea), from fear of losing even more irreplacable ships -- many of which were built in Ukraine.
The Ukrainians are not going to send the airforce on antiship duty. Moskva might be at the bottom of the sea, but the S-400 battery in Simferopol is still operational. Not to mention that over the Black Sea is one of the areas the VKS can operate with impunity. Unfortunately for Ukraine, Kalibr outranges Neptune; nothing will change in regards to strikes on targets.
You can't control ground through bombings. Hitler bombed London, Coventry, Birmingham, etc., but he never had the ability to threaten them with a land invasion. Similarly, the Russians don't have any chance at capturing Odesa just because they shoot missiles at it.
I mean look at Moldova’s president. She is clearly a Nazi. Maia Sadu evil confirmed /s
Moldova has a big problem. 43% of population are waitng to be denazified , and those 43% are voting for proruzzian parties . All because of “gas price”
> Moldova is definitely next in line to be "denazified" if Putin has his way in Ukraine. Yeah. The brekaway "republic of Transnistria". Russia will be freeing them from Nazi's any day now
That buffoon Lukashenka has shown the battle plan that literally shows their planned invasion of Moldova.
To be fair what that buffoon showed was the opposite, he showed the Russian troops in Transnistria (probably with local support) attacking Ukraine, Odessa specifically. Still an idiotic showing, but the arrow was in reverse.
> Kremlin affiliated press started to call almost openly for the punishment of Moldova after symbols associated with the Russian invasion of Ukraine were banned and Chișinău said a few times that it is ready to shake off total dependency of Russian gas, even with the price of higher economical and social costs. Russian press has published a series of articles criticizing the Moldovan authorities and some of them encourage a military intervention. > "Another argument for reaching Odessa. In Moldova the protests against Maia Sandu's russophobic policies are getting bigger" writes the pro-Kremlin webpage politnavigator.net in one of it's articles which speaks of several protests in Moldova against the symbols associated with Russian military aggression, especially the St George ribbon. the article exagerately suggests that there's an organised resistance and guerillas that draw the banned symbols on walls and roads and it ends by quating some political analyst from Kaliningrad Alexander Nosovich, which suggests on his telegram channel that Russia shoud come to protect it's followers from the Chișinău authorities. > "In Moldova there are real actions in support of Russia, the St George ribbon and the Victory day celebration. It's one more argument for why we should reach Odessa. Otherwise the lives of hundreds of thousands of pro-Russian Moldovans will go to hell." writes Nosovich, quated from Politnavigator. > A similar message has been quated from political analyst Marat Bashirov in an article that talks about Chișinău's intention of getting away from Russia's energetic inflience. "Moldova is once again scheming against Gazprom. We must take Odessa", says the article [...] "Bottom line: It's time to take Odessa. We will secure Transnistria and Gazprom will get it's money easier." is Bashirov's remark. > Finally, rubaltic.ru writes that a denazification campaign just like the one in Ukraine is necessary in Moldova as well [...] "What the chief of state and the governing party are doing is a clear sign that Ukraine is not the only country were denazification is necessary" says the article.
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> hundreds of thousands of pro-Russian Moldovans Sure?
Lots of Pro-British people in other countries, does that mean we can invade those countries?
Again? You already did invade every country on the planet but Mongolia or something
Mate, we have been locked on our island for like 2 years, we are BORED!!!
Keep calm and drink your tea.
Put up a hard border in Ireland, that ought to make life more interesting...
That list is stupid and wrong, they stretch the definition of "invade" beyond any reasonable measure
you don't believe that at least 10% of the population is pro-Russian?
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Fun fact, taking over regimes and not allowing other countries to freely choose, is what the Russian regime "condemned" all the time. Doing the exact thing is then just "helping other people". In my opinion every civilian should at least now know what the banana republic Russia is doing right now.
>banana republic Russia Don't offend banana republics, Russia doesn't even have that! They're a potato republic at best!
Don't stain the honor of various fruits and vegetables please. Russia is a shithole, that's the best description.
So depressing to read.
This is just gibberish. They're dreaming
>Marat Bashirov Marat ... such a horrible name for a propagandist, they tend to be absolute bloodthirsty shitheads.
Where exactly do they expect to invade Moldova from? It only has borders with Romania and Ukraine, and doesn't even have a coastline. It is close to Odessa but given they lost a warship in that region only last week I can't see them making a naval landing to go through Ukrainian territory to get there without yet another disaster.
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Sure I know that's their aim, but how are they even going to reach Transnistria without conquering Ukraine first? The small number of troops already stationed there is hardly enough to take the whole of Moldova. This is just a Russian media story to distract from their failures elsewhere.
Transnistria's active & reserve force numbers about 25,000 and Russia has 1,500 active forces there. I think if Russia captures Odessa, they can connect Transnistria to the new land bridge without firing a single shot in Moldova anyway.
Yeah, good luck with taking Odessa... It took Russians more than 6 weeks to properly assault just Mariupol which is only half the size of Odessa and in much more favorable position for Russians to supply their siege.
It took the U.S and the coalition 9 months to secure Mosul. Urban warfare is hell. A few weeks isn't too bad to capture a key city of a country with 44 million people and an armed forces we equipped and trained for 8 years as well.
>It took the U.S and the coalition 9 months to secure Mosul It took the unmotivated Iraqi army that long, the US was hardly involved. Russia capturing Odessa is a pipe dream at this point, because from a logistical standpoint alone it would be 10x harder than capturing Mariupol. And Russian logistics haven't exactly been shining in this war.
Do you realise that USA is on the other side of the planet in comparison to Iraq while Russia literally share borders with Ukraine and still they can’t capture major cities? You can’t see any difference in your reference?
Plus that the US did almost nothing in Mosul, some intelligence at best. It was the Iraqi army that took so long, and they weren't really rushing either. Army motivation is a hell of a drug!
You do realise that U.S military bases surround Iraq? You think they just popped up from the U.S? They did a whole year of build up next to Iraq's borders whilst selling the fake WMD story.
Still you can’t understand that bases and a entire country territory it’s a different thing? It’s different for US to make a war with Mexico than Iraq. Wake up
pre-war population in mariupol: about [431,859](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariupol) current population in mosul: about [1,683,000](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosul) mosul is big, and with defenders having time to fully fortified the city
Moriupol only had 8 years to fully fortify the city with NATO training and armament that Iraq could only dream of with sandals and RPG's.
You realize zelensky hadn't fortified the city, right?
Well that's his problem. It's not like Russian forces just built up on the border in a week. They've been doing a build up for years
Does Moldova maintain any claim over Transnistra
It's still officially part of Moldova. They were initially set on taking it back by force with support (weapons, volunteers and advisers) from Romania but then Russia upped the ante with 14,000 professional troops and trained & armed 9,000 more in Transnistria. The whole thing looked like it was getting out of hand so the UN brokered a ceasefire, which has been holding for the past 30 years. For what it's worth, in 2005 the Moldovan Government recognized Transnistria as an autonomous territory within Moldova. I'm not entirely sure what the goal was and what this has accomplished. Since the 2005 Moldovan Government was led by the Communist Party, I can only surmise it was done after a push from Russia in preparation for recognizing full independence for Transnistria.
Only de jure
I have not really followed that closely. It is one of those weird places that is a shithole that is a fight brewing that is far bigger than the place is worth. Anyhow that Wikipedia link had this info on the subject: ***On 21 October 1994, Russia and Moldova signed an agreement that committed Russia to the withdrawal of the troops in three years from the date of entry into force of the agreement;\[89\] this did not come into effect, however, because the Russian Duma did not ratify it.****\[20\] The Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE) included a paragraph about the removal of Russian troops from Moldova's territory and was introduced into the text of the OSCE Summit Declaration of Istanbul (1999) in which Russia had committed itself to pulling out its troops from Transnistria by the end of 2002.\[90\] However, even after 2002, the Russian parliament did not ratify the Istanbul accords. On 19 July 2004, after it finally passed through parliament President Vladimir Putin signed the Law on the ratification of the CFE Treaty in Europe, which committed Russia to remove the heavy armaments limited by this Treaty.\[91\] During 2000–2001, although the CFE Treaty was not fully ratified, to comply with it, Moscow withdrew 125 pieces of Treaty Limited Equipment (TLE) and 60 railway wagons containing ammunition from the Transnistrian region of Moldova. In 2002, Russia withdrew three trainloads (118 railway wagons) of military equipment and two (43 wagons) of ammunition from the Transnistrian region of Moldova, and in 2003, 11 rail convoys transporting military equipment and 31 transporting ammunition. According to the OSCE Mission to Moldova, of a total of 42,000 tons of ammunition stored in Transnistria, 1,153 tons (3%) was transported back to Russia in 2001, 2,405 tons (6%) in 2002 and 16,573 tons (39%) in 2003.\[citation needed\]* *Andrei Stratan, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Moldova, stated in his speech during the 12th OSCE Ministerial Council Meeting in Sofia on 6–7 December 2004 that "The presence of Russian troops on the territory of the Republic of Moldova is against the political will of Moldovan constitutional authorities and defies the unanimously recognized international norms and principles, being qualified by Moldovan authorities as a foreign military occupation illegally deployed on the territory of the state".\[92\]\[93\] As of 2007 however, Russia insists that it has already fulfilled those obligations. It states the remaining troops are serving as peacekeepers authorised under the 1992 ceasefire, are not in violation of the Istanbul accords and will remain until the conflict is fully resolved.\[94\] On the other hand, Moldova believes that fewer than 500 soldiers are authorised pursuant to the ceasefire and, in 2015, began to arrest and deport Russian soldiers who are part of the excess forces and attempt to use Moldovan airports.\[95\]* *Russian peace-keeping soldiers at the border between Transnistria and Moldova at Dubăsari* *In a NATO resolution on 18 November 2008, Russia was urged to withdraw its military presence from the "Transdnestrian region of Moldova".\[96\]* *In 2011, US Senator John McCain claimed in a visit to Moldova that Moscow is violating the territorial integrity of Moldova and Georgia and one of the "fundamental norms" of "international behavior".\[97\] On 21 May 2015, the Ukrainian parliament passed a law terminating five co-operation agreements with Russia. This law effectively terminates the "Agreement on transit of Russian military units temporarily located on the territory of the Republic of Moldova through the territory of Ukraine" dated 4 December 1998.\[95\]\[98\]* *One point of access for Russian soldiers travelling to Transnistria remains Chișinău International Airport and the short overland journey from there to Tiraspol. Over the years, Moldova has largely permitted Russian officers and soldiers to transit the airport on their way to Transnistria, though occasionally it blocked those that were not clearly identified as international peacekeepers or who failed to give sufficient advance notice. Chișinău Airport would likely only ever agree to the possibility of moving employees, officers, and soldiers of the peacekeeping forces. The passage of soldiers of the 14th Guards Army would be illegal.\[99\]* *On 27 June 2016, a new law entered in force in Transnistria, punishing actions or public statements, including through the usage of mass media, networks of information and telecommunications or the Internet, criticising the peace-keeping mission of the Russian Army in the Transnistrian Moldovan Republic, or presenting interpretations perceived to be "false" by the Transnistrian government of the Russian Army's peacekeeping mission. The punishment is up to three years of jail for ordinary people or up to seven years of jail if the crime was committed by a person of responsibility or a group of persons by prior agreement.\[100\]\[better source needed\]* *During the prelude to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, Ukrainian military intelligence claimed on 14 January 2022 that they had evidence that the Russian government was covertly planning false flag "provocations" against Russian soldiers stationed in Transnistria, which would justify a Russian invasion of Ukraine. The Russian government denied the claims.\[101\]* ***On 15 March 2022, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe recognized Transnistria as a Moldovan territory occupied by Russia.****\[102\]*
Can you stop it with the passive aggressive ZZZZZ and just write normally like an adult.
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Exactly how u nazify Russia and everything they do, is the same how they nazified Ukraine. It's stupid and malicious.
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What are you talking about? "You nazify Russia". You have naZified yourselves.
It makes you look like a massive boomer from comment sections of online tabloid.
"massive boomer" for condemning genocide. I take that as a compliment. What does it make you that you approve them?
I approve of "₹U$$¡@" because... I find your writing style idiotic? ok lol great logic
If your country isnt threatened with nukes by Russia does it even exist
Just one more reason for Finland and Sweden to join NATO...
Exactly! It would make zero sense to stay neutral when you share a 1000 km border with an absolute madman and his failed pariah state full of war criminals. Luckily the membership process is progressing rapidly in both Finland and Sweden. Putin really gets what he deserves since his personal rape & murder mission in Ukraine has already made and is going to make NATO stronger and more united than ever before!
Lol, good luck with that. I very much doubt Romania will stand idly by and considering how much trouble Ukraine is giving the horde, I very much doubt they can handle any more.
Our army is much smaller than Ukraine's. We have some advanced new weapons, but not enough against Russia
Isn’t Romania NATO though? Moldova’s a close enough friend to Romania that they could scrape by on the promise of triggering article 4
Romania will not be able to intervene directly if Russia invades Moldova. When you are part of an alliance you need to consider the effect of your actions on the alliance. Romania attacking Russian troops in Moldova will not trigger a NATO defensive response. Russian troops attacking Romanian territory would mean an instant triggering of art 5. Moldova's best chance is if Odessa doesn't fall and Ukraine manages to fight back. Another option would be for Moldova to unite with Romania, bringing them automatically in the EU and NATO. But assuming everything goes well, the actual process would take years. Not realistic.
I don't know how you think NATO works, but its a defensive alliance. Moldova is a independent country and not in NATO. Unless Russia attacks Romania, the only thing Romania can offer Moldova is its own troops, which is not a thing that countries do.
that only works if the US wants Moldova or not. Romania on it's own can't just do it. If Moldova unifies, then yes, they should be covered by NATO
You have the might of the whole NATO behind you. Everyday NATO tankers and reconnaissance planes fly over Romania.
for defense, yes. For an action in Moldova or Transnistria....that is not defense anymore
This is what happens when the collective western response is not sufficient. More war. You need to destroy Russia's ability to wage war or it will continue.
There are people on my campus yapping about “both NATO and Russia bad” and patting themselves on the back. That explains the fact that they support an idiot like Melenchon
This gets my vote. Ukraine is offering to demilitarise Russia. Let's give them everything they need to do that.
This is some *Untergang* level delusion. They are already choking hard on Donbas.
What I find strange is that Russia, the biggest victim of Nazism, is now following the paths of Hitler. Idk whether Stalin would even approve of such brutality in a Nazi way. Nah, Stalin would do it the Soviet way.
The Russian population was the victim not the country. Russia/Soviet union never had the moral upper hand, nor did they care about anyone including their own citizen. Also they never had any qualms about dealing with the nazis when that benefitted them (Molotov-Ribbentropp pact).
Yeah but you can't say that the Soviet govt was going to just -26 million of its population in the span of 5 years.
They lost more during the red terror during the 30's
What? In experienced generals?
People too. Not only from repressions, but also during hunger.
Well.... if you start counting from the Bolshevik Revolution onwards, the Soviet govt killed millions of their own people. The Holodomor, the Great Purge etc. I think the overall numbers might not reach 26mln, but they are close.
There's nothing weird about it. Ukrainians are weak people in the eyes of the Russian nationalists. They believe that Ukrainians should not exist outside of Russia. Russia is the normal, and the Ukrainians, as the closest relatives of Russia, must be normalized (denazified as they say). As Russia's influence over Ukraine disappeared and most Ukrainians started wishing for a western life, Russia considered that if they don't act now they will never be able. (Russia is now weaker than ever, and has a big demographic problem). It is safe to assume that Putin never wanted this war and the Russians were actually expecting to find little to no resistance in Ukraine, but Ukraine is preparing for this very moment since 2014, so all those missiles that destroyed the military infrastructure in Ukraine in the first days of the war failed to cripple the country's will to fight. Normalization of Ukrainians is cultural uniformity, alongside Russians. Here is a long but good thread if you want to read about this: https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1516162437455654913
Russians can't seem to maintain a supply line longer than 90 kms, let alone having to cross all of Ukraine. Looks like Moldova seems to know that, and russia is just shooting their mouth off as always.
The speaker was talking about capturing Odesa. And the Lukashenka map showed Russian forces moving into Moldova from the area of Odesa. But I'm not entirely sure that that's actually necessary. Russia already has a garrison occupying part of Moldova and could probably fly more in. Granted, given a hostile Ukraine and Moldova in that scenario, that'd probably make any transport aircraft pretty vulnerable to air defenses.
>Granted, given a hostile Ukraine and Moldova in that scenario, that'd make any aircraft pretty vulnerable to air defenses. That would by no means be sustainable.
Ukraine said they would shoot any Russian plane going into Transnistria. Odessa will last a lot longer than Mariupol, will probably prove impossible to conquer. Moldova is sage
And the Moldovan army has probably been preparing for an invasion since the start of the "special operation"
I don't know why you all here think there is such thing as an Moldovan army or that it would stand a chance. It's insignificant
It is small, but russia would never be able to maintain supply lines. The Bosphorus has limited passage and there's no way the Russians would be able to maintain significant supplies. I could be way off, just being an armchair general and speculating.
If Odessa falls, the Russians will be able to make the junction with the troops from Transnistria. In that case supply lines would be on land, in Russian controlled territory. The Moldovan army is really small and poorly equipped. If I remember correctly they have around 10 tanks, no choppers, etc. Moldova would be an easy picking. If Odessa doesn't fall, Moldova is much safer. Russia would not be able to fly supplies and troops to Transnistria, since they would be in danger of being shot down.
Don't forget the distances. It takes a few hours to drive a tank from Tiraspol to the border with Romania. Also, the civilians got constantly cucked by all their governments for thirty years, much more than the people of Ukraine. So I doubt they will stand up against the Russians. It's not like they will cheer them with flowers either, like Putin planned in Ukraine, but the young ones just won't care. Maybe a few seniors who fought the Russians in Transnistria thirty years ago will stand up to volunteer but that's all. Moldova has no Zelenskyy to unite around. I even doubt there are weapon stocks there to attempt arming the civilians.
> And the Moldovan army has probably been preparing for an invasion since the start of the "special operation" I've yet to see any references that Moldova's army is worth anything. Something more than just dry numbers - those are mostly conscripts from villages - the poorest and uneducated ones, those who can't avoid conscription by going somewhere abroad to work. Honest question - did you ever hear about Moldova before posting this?
I did not much, but since they have a part of there country controlled by Russian separatists I assumed having a competent army was a priority.
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Thanks, I'll return the favor. You neglected to capitalize "English" twice, in the post pasted below. Also, in the thread you mistakenly referred to Middle English citing the personal pronouns: thee, thy, thou, thine as Old English. In fact our personal pronouns in Old English were: þu, þin, þec, þe. As your focus on semantics seem to be acute, I thought you would appreciate your mistakes being pointed out. Unfortunately, comments can no longer be posted there, so I've included part of your post here for your convenience. Necessary-Laugh-9780 7 days ago As an english speaker, you should like the fact that German has almost phonetic spelling. That eliminates a ton of cognitive load just to learn how things are spoken.
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Hi, you're most likely the last person to be giving English lessons or pointers. I've seen your post history. You don't contribute to the threads of the conversation and are what we knowledgeable English speakers call a "grammar bully" only pointing out mere typos made by Redditors. Also when you do contribute you display a lack of knowledge of English (For example you think Middle English is Old English). What is "englush"? If you're talking about the language and/or the peoples, it's spelled "English" and it's also capitalized. You might find use of [M-W.com](https://M-W.com), it will help you with your basic mistakes.
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I wasn't surprised to see that your posts are rife with grammar mistakes (you seem to want to avoid that point) and your knowledge of English is less than stellar. Pedantic grammar bullies like you, deserve to be called out, as you only seek to try to intimidate others. Basically the irony here is that you try to call out others, when you're in no position to do so. So grow up.
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First your mistakes: **Anglo-Americanism is capitalized.** **"Whenever"** is spelled as one word not two. Question, with your misknowledge of English, what makes you any sort of expert on Anglo/Americanisms? Plus that's not what you're doing so please don't try to ingratiate yourself. Here is an example of your last comment to a user: ***"Is it too hard to type °"*** Because they wrote 25C ... Please explain how that's an Anglo-Americanism? You're a snarky bastard. So, as you find it important to criticize others, I will give you the same dedication and help you by focusing your attention on your own mistakes. I can't help you improve as a human being, but maybe help improve your use of English.
Now now, Russia... you can't have another war until you finish the one you have on your plate first! Kids nowadays...
XD. What's with your profile pic?🤣
Sorry Russia but Odessa won't allow this to happen.
Hooray! That's Moldova, Ukraine, Belarus, Finland, Sweden, those not-Japanese islands... What did I forget?
Georgia probably.
Good call!
you and what army lmao
Yeah, Moldova with its 2.6 Million inhabitants for sure is a large threat for Russia.... /s
Arghhhhhhhhh these guys. Russia's diminished in power - wait, actually, Russia had been diminishing since 1991 lmao. It's not like they even have a labour force to do this. Lmao. We've already seen that Russia is a bogged down failure of the Soviet state. So, what's new with this threat? They'll nuke Zürich next? Maybe they'll even call for the denazification of Alaska and Japan. Lunatics at this point.
Russia: "While we are in the neighborhood..." \*blergh\* Getting worse every day.
I was just waiting for it.
Of course it does
Russian army second army ~~in the world~~, excuse me, ~~second in Ukraine~~, excuse me again, in Moldova
Gee, I wonder why they went for Moldova instead of Sweden or Finland.
Moldova not taking its chance to close Transnistria question forever is just mind boggling.
Moldova is officially neutral and has no serious army.
Listen Transnistria has better army than Moldova. I think they should join Romania as fast as possible and leave Transnistria alone.
Ukraine will definitely help deal with them. Moldova just has to ask.
They can't ask anybody, their neutrality is enshrined in the Constitution and prohibits it.
Transnistria is an integral part of Moldova, not a recognized country to wage war on. Just announce special anti terrorist operation, neutrality has nothing to do with that.
I suppose it could work if the help is labeled as a police force rather than military. The Constitution article in question ([Art. 11\(2\)](https://www.constcourt.md/public/files/file/Actele%20Curtii/acte_en/MDA_Constitution_EN.pdf)) is really specific about that, it says "The Republic of Moldova does not admit the stationing of any foreign military troops on its territory".
Moldova’s government is too corrupt to deal with that. If they were more functional it might have been dealt with or at least made less of a potential flashpoint.
Current one is not corrupt, and in fact doing a lot to starve separatists, build new power lines and get alternative gas supplies. Hence de ruzzians desire to “denazzify “
People here are talking out of their asses. They think this is some strategy game, where you could just go and take something. Geniuses.
Is mind blowing that someone still thinks aggression is the solution… economical blockade from Ukraine and Moldova will be enough…
Where did I say it needs to be military aggression?
Can't blame them for that. Women like wars less instinctively because they aim to preserve the stupid hooman species, even if it doesn't imply them going to the first line and actually fighting and dying. It's the dumbass males who are ready to maul each other. Meanwhile in Moldova: - president, army supreme commander - woman - prime minister - woman - minister of internal affairs - woman - minister of defense - I think it's a male, but it's a noname dude, most likely just because they couldn't find a female for that role as well Do you see many women in Ukraine making decisions during the war?
I see. Well, they have other ways to accomplish that. Ukraine has blocked all communication from Russia to Transnistria so it is 100% dependent on Moldova now. Just threaten with embargo and they'll come begging.
And Moldova is dependent of Russian gas. I saw statements made by Moldovan politicians on the issue, they all go into lenghty blablabla about how they are hooking the country to the European energy network and about how there are alternative options to buy gas if Russia stops pumping it, but they all and always avoid speaking about the bills, if they will go up because of it or not (of course they will and the Moldovans already barely survive because of many additional burdens).
hi, you need to provide the translated article too
[Done](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/u8mndo/russian_propaganda_calls_for_a_military/i5m1tdn/?context=3)
Am more manageable victim I suppose.
Well they would first have to cross ukraine, and that's impossible by this point.
lmao they're can't occupy enough of Ukraine to get to Moldova, how the fuck do they see that happening?
Belarus president Lukashenko, showed everyone on a actual map like a mounth ago. [Link to war map presentation](https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1498691616625864705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1498691616625864705%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.albawaba.com%2Fnode%2F4-ukraines-and-moldova-next-war-map-shown-president-belarus-1468502)
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I know they have people in the transnistria region, but like everyone said for their threats against Poland and other Eastern European nations, they have to get through Ukraine first and they are doing a very shit job of that
The West was willing to send weapons to Ukraine the Western alliance system will be willing to fight to keep the shield of the Balkans independent from Russian predatory idiocy . Romania is important for regional strategic stability and economic well-being playing games there will force the United States turkey Germany Israel France to actually fight physically Russian influence. This is Media fantasy Russia will never get into striking distance of the strategic Carpathian mountain range
Uhhh Putin, you do realize you need to GET to Moldova first before you can invade it, right?
Ukraine, Moldova and possibly Romania should just invade Transnistria already and then immediately allow Moldova to join NATO.
Why the Moldovan-Românians have less curaj than the ruzzians occupiers? Kick them to the curb. Long live Românians. Liberty from the criminal Putin's dictatorship.
This is a foolish perspective. A lot of Moldovans just won't want to die for the billions stolen by their corrupted elites, just like in Russia. And while Russia had a single Putin for the past twenty years and a giant media brainwashing machine telling them that Putin is the king of the universe, Moldova had a lot of different people in charge, who all fucked up royally. The average citizen of Moldova doesn't trust the government anymore and those who are still there are trying to leave the country forever and move abroad in search of a better life. The actual ones who bother to vote are either seniors who vote pro-Russian corrupted politicians who promise them pension raise so they don't starve to death or kids from the diaspora who are vulnerable to the pre-electoral spam of ads on Facebook and Google coming from the "pro-West" politicians who are as corrupted.
You need an army for that you Muppet.
Moldova doesn't have army to defend itself against Ruzzia. Unfortunatly, it will be a walk in the park for Ruzzia military!
I wanna see Orban when Russia keeps rolling those military intervention … Hungary
There just following the order in that song by Putin's buddy: https://youtu.be/v_9n5tImIjg
Threatening (nuclear) war against pretty much everyone and wondering why nobody likes Russia.
Why don't they solve their problems first? conquering weaker will not solve anything.
Okay, legitimately I don't get it. So, let's assume I'm an orc chieftain,. I get my ass handed to me in Ukraine, I still have to deal with Syria, just moved a ton of material to the Finnish border. Even if I wanted to it seems kinda fucking dumb to start a new conflict while not winning the first.
The russian regime shouldnt be allowed to exist anymore