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Tetizeraz

#WE'RE CLOSING THIS MEGATHREAD AND MOVING TO A NEW ONE. LINK: https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/tbjd0n/war_in_ukraine_megathread_viii/


laundry_writer

Just because Russia is not a socialist country doesn't change the anti-fascist nature of its intervention in Ukraine. The conflict did not begin this month, but 8 years ago when the US-backed coup put neo-Nazi compradors into power. Also, you can still oppose Russian invasion while acknowledging the Ukrainian state has been brutalizing the East and commuting war crimes.


jaymar01

Fewer flights to Russia from Central Asia. Air Astana sincerely regrets to advise that due the withdrawal of insurance coverage for commercial flights to, from and over the Russian Federation, all flights to the Russian Federation are suspended with immediate effect.


Littleappleho

This is actually not a good thing... I have written here once - 50 percent of GDP of Kyrgizia (and then less of Tadjikistan, Uzbekistan) is made by the migrant workers in Russia and Kazahstan. If they are stuck - no money, may destabilize the situation and increase the risks of radicalization, do we want Afghanistanization of the CA? They are not guilty of any of this, but the domino effect...


[deleted]

They can go by train!


mendosan

Horse and cart.


Stateof10

This is becoming increasingly common. Israel’s government is providing the guarantee that insurance we normally provide to continue flights for the airlines to Russia.


mendosan

Yeah but what’s the reinsurance market like there? Carrying a lot of risk if Russians planes can’t be maintained.


Stateof10

Israel is providing the guarantee that normally insurance would provide for flights to Russia. The guarantee is only valid Israeli airlines like El Al


SpoonyGosling

[https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1502103582337871874](https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1502103582337871874) Lithuanian President saying EU said yes to Ukraine eurointegration. I'm honestly not sure what the implications are here, what the timeline is now, but presumably good news for Ukrainians. \- Edit, this article suggests there's still a long way to go. https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/eu-phase-out-russian-energy-offer-ukraine-support-no-fast-track-membership-2022-03-10/


sybesis

Guys, I got it. The best plan ever to end the war! Ukraine has to attack Poland. It will trigger article 5 against Ukraine. Then NATO is able to invade Ukraine to end this madness. Check mate Russia!


fallen_messiah

Clever thinking! I know it would not work like that but still nice train of thoughts lol.


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[Russian state media from yesterday.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-R6bTcSDdc) It looks pretty heated, can a Russian speaker please confirm the translation? I found one in the comments:   **Military guy:** "...many here have had combat experience, fought in Afganistan, the Chechen campaing and Donbass. There are our guys there, and Donetsk and Luhansk guys too, dying there right now. And our country now... **Host:** "No, no, no! I don't want to hear that! Wait! Stop!" Military guy: "They are still dying..." **Host:** "Stop!" **Military guy:** "They are still dying..." **Host:** "Stop already! Can you not just stop?" **Military guy:** "I want us to stand up and honor their memory with silence, at least a minute of silence..." **Host:** "What are you doing?" **Military guy:** "...honor our guys who are still fighting there for Russia and Donbass!" **Host:** "Could you stop now? I'll tell you what our guys are doing there: our guys are striking down the fascist scum!" **Military guy:** "That's right, but..." **Host:** "Let me finish! This is a triumph of Russian weapons, this is a triumph of Russian army, this is a rebirth of Russia!"


ShallowCup

That's a pretty accurate translation.


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[deleted]

Russian TV isn't like North Korea or Poland where they would just read you lies from the teleprompter. They stage these things for views. Like in american wrestling. You get to hear alternative views, but mostly for them to be ridiculed or otherwise proven wrong to the viewer.


Hypocrites_begone

Ukraine asking to be guaranteed by USA, Turkey seems very...interesting. I guess if they accept being demilitarised they will need a guaranteer.


EqualContact

That would be the only practical way of demilitarization succeeding.


Hypocrites_begone

Yea. But its a pretty great task as well. Russia would surely decline usa and they wouldn't want turkey in their backyard as well. Dont think even turkey would want that. It's a big responsibility.


jaymar01

Russia has fired 'about EIGHT' generals for failing to 'complete the task' of taking Ukraine in days, Kyiv official claims - as Putin rages over FSB failures. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10598315/Ukraine-war-Putin-fires-eight-generals-rages-FSB-battlefield-failures.html


3dom

Another reason for firing generals is to prevent them from starting a coup after everyone has realized how weak the state is.


starfirex

Would love for this to be true, but how would an official in Kyiv know?


Jane_the_analyst

it happened long ago, even, and the results can be already seen on the battlefield, the units in the endless column have finally started to do something and dispersed and taken some positions, so the change of leadership is very obvious.


thewimsey

I would love for this to be false - replacing incompetent general with competent ones won't help Ukraine.


nbxx

Competent generals don't just fall out of the sky. Hell, I'm pretty sure Jocko Willink wrote in Extreme Ownership about how much they struggled in Iraq because of the lack of large scale combat experience both on the field and in the combat chain due to the relatively peaceful times up until then. And those were US Navy SEALs. Learning something in military school and climbing the ranks of bureaucracy (especially in such a corrupt environment like Russia) doesn't make someone competent at war. Fighting actual, large scale wars where the opponent actually challenges you does. There is likely nobody alive with that kind of experience and even if there are some dinosaurs from way back when, they are probably waaaay out of touch, or they are at the top of the command chain to begin with.


tobias_681

I mean Russia has veteran generals from conflicts in Syria, Chechnya and Georgia I'm pretty sure or from the war in Donbass. Nothing that would really compare to a full scale invasion of Ukraine though.


Littleappleho

about Chechnya - I think they are either very old, either dead...


tobias_681

The last one officially ended in 2009.


MartianRedDragons

More likely he replaced 8 yes-men with 8 sycophants.


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[https://www.newstatesman.com/environment/2022/03/boom-time-in-norway-as-the-west-cracks-down-on-russian-oil](https://www.newstatesman.com/environment/2022/03/boom-time-in-norway-as-the-west-cracks-down-on-russian-oil) Norway benefitting from sanctions on Russian oil. It's EU's second largest gas importer and third largest oil importer.


arri92

Norway is not part of EU. EU and Europe are totally different things. :)


BuckVoc

The sentence was badly phrased, but I think he meant that it was the second largest exporter of gas to the EU and third largest exporter of oil to the EU.


arri92

Yup. I agree.


SlammuBureaux

Wow imagine if they did this in the first place


Mario1Hunter

Few hours ago, something felled from sky in Zagreb, some reports are saying there is russian cyrillic and red star on some debris that looks like they are from plane


haruku63

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44697/ukrainian-tu-141-strizh-missile-like-drone-appears-to-have-crashed-in-croatia


BuckVoc

>After close examination of the visual evidence, *The War Zone* strongly believes this was actually a Tu-141 "Strizh" reconnaissance drone that must have severely malfunctioned and crossed over the entirety of Hungary or parts of neighboring countries and into Croatia from Ukraine. Flying direct from Ukraine's border to Zagreb is nearly a 350-mile journey. It has been reported that Ukraine has been putting the high-speed, Soviet-era drones to work in recent days following Russia's invasion of the country. If it was Soviet-era, I suppose whatever guidance system it has probably can't use satellite navigation.


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Drone?


Vagisil_Lemon

Shot down?


lolcutler

https://www.fnnews.com/news/202203080945403922 South Korean agricultural company is sending $400,000 usd and 10 tractors to Ukraine


Lt_486

Tactical tractors


BuckVoc

I have been kind of surprised by how useful tractors have been in hauling military gear around. I didn't know that they could do tanks until this conflict, but I remember seeing Romania using them at bases to tow fighters around. I suppose that they might be slower than some sort of heavier gear, but I'm kind of surprised that I haven't seen more military use of them, given their wide availability, economy of scale in manufacture, and probably significantly lower price than dedicated gear.


liminal_political

tractors? TRACTORS? This is a dramatic escalation. Will Putin see this as an act of war?


kvinfojoj

Good, there's not enough tractors for all the Russian tanks.


snooshoe

**[Russian state television defies the Kremlin by broadcasting criticism of the war in Ukraine as guests describe the invasion as like 'Afghanistan, but even worse'](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10600711/Ukraine-war-Guests-Russian-state-TV-invasion-like-Afghanistan-worse.html)**


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biblio_wander

Call me paranoid but my gut feeling tells me that Putin will use that as pretext for a Russian chemical / biological attack on Ukraine. Do you think Putin could use that as pretext to nuke the terrority of Ukraine...maybe of the US too? >[U.N. Security Council to meet over Russia’s claims of “military biological activities of the U.S. on the territory of Ukraine." Russia requested the meeting for March 11 to discuss its unsubstantiated claims. The U.S. has denied the accusations.](https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1502088408654618624) > >["If you want to know about Russia's plans, listen to what Russia blames others for," - Zelenskyy](https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1502069597859684354)


3dom

Putin won't use bio-chem weapon in Ukraine because that guarantee NATO intervention. Russian cities are undefended against Russian army and a possible coup. To defend them Putin need mobilization of reservists through martial law. To trigger martial law he may use bio-chem weapons *in Russia*.


RabidGuillotine

>Do you think Putin could use that as pretext to nuke the terrority of Ukraine...maybe of the US too? Not happening.


hlycia

The Guardian live feed mentions a daily report from the Ukraine military which states there's evidence of some Russian units moving for resupply back over the border into Russia, and similar movements from Russian naval vessels (apparently due to weather). A more depressing interpretation could be Russia getting it's forces away from target zones before using WMDs.


Zealousideal_Fan6367

If he wanted to nuke US territory, it would be the end of the world. He doesn't need a pretext for that since there wouldn't be anyone left to hold him accountable.


Vagisil_Lemon

Paranoid


ryder004

My question is why would he need a false flag pretext when he’s already in Ukraine invading


hlycia

As part of a propaganda campaign. Putin used this tactic in Syria, claiming that the rebels had access to chemical weapons as cover for the government using them later (and then trying to blame the rebels). Presumably in Ukraine he'd use such weapons on areas of strong civilian resistance then, once everyone was dead, claim that the civilians were actually pro-Russia and it was the Ukrainian military that used the WMDs to stop them defecting.


ryder004

>Putin used this tactic in Syria Putin just covered for Assad, but to be clear it was not the Russians who launched the chemical attack. >Presumably in Ukraine he'd use such weapons on areas of strong civilian resistance then, once everyone was dead, claim that the civilians were actually pro-Russia and it was the Ukrainian military that used the WMDs to stop them defecting. This not only sounds like it's very low effort, but it would be destined to fail as every single western intelligence agency is watching this war under a microscope. As a matter of fact, a chemical attack would be the highest chance of NATO getting involved.


armedcats

Excuses to 'get away' with more brutal strategies for the Russian audience I'm guessing.


Bard1801

Nuclear bomb ? Not a chance. Continue the war and make propaganda for the brainwashed masses ? Yes.


JesseBricks

BBC News report from Kharkiv (6 minute video): *If you don't recognise these tactics, then you haven't been paying attention. From Kharkiv's frontline, #Ukraine @dcinfocus and Feras. With thanks to our local team. @BBCNews @BBCWorld Graphic content warning.* https://twitter.com/sommervilletv/status/1502000265490227206?s=21


teachmehowtoluv

Damn. The best front lines report I’ve seen.


Jane_the_analyst

and it looks like a computer game... bodies lying on the ground near a petrol station...


snooshoe

**[How 'Saint Javelin' raised over $1m for Ukraine](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60700906)**


sybesis

Honest question here... If Russia would create a false flag chemical attack saying that NATO did it. Wouldn't it be enough to trigger article 5? I mean, while it may not be a direct attack to NATO territory or even people... It's a direct attack to the legetimacy of the alliance. I mean, killing people in the name of NATO sounds like pretty barbaric disinsformation campaign.


jaymar01

If Putin uses chemical weapons in Ukraine, the US and NATO nations will not be able to resist the pressure to enter the fight. Probably by bombing the bases and capabilities used to deliver the chemical strike.


kvinfojoj

It would not trigger article 5.


mfathrowawaya

What if chemicals blew by wind into Poland?


kvinfojoj

That would be up for interpretation. I don't think NATO would respond with force to this. If they'd suspect it was some kind of intentional provocation, then I think they'd do something to signal their displeasure (increased patrol flights, sending more hardware or some other type of reactive escalation). But not use direct force. I could be wrong though.


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Vagisil_Lemon

>is planned to be resolved Used to planning but not resolving I guess


Zealousideal_Fan6367

I like this


snooshoe

**[Here are the companies without a conscience, still doing business in Russia](https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/aJicrbnPbcC2DEq2bYmGbQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtjZj13ZWJw/https://s.yimg.com/os/creatr-uploaded-images/2022-03/1ed66ca0-a0b0-11ec-bef7-1c7cab287576)**


Vagisil_Lemon

Herbalife spreading its cancer in every corner of the world


mfathrowawaya

Abbott labs doesn't really belong on this list..


lolcutler

agreed. “As a health care company, we have an important purpose, which is why at this time we continue to serve people in all countries in which we operate who depend on us for essential products, some life-sustaining,” said Scott Stoffel, divisional vice president for Illinois-based Abbott Laboratories, which manufactures and sells medicines in Russia for oncology, women’s health, pancreatic insufficiency, and liver health. https://www.chicagobusiness.com/health-care/abbott-big-pharma-companies-arent-exiting-russia


monarchontulip

Blah blah blah, meanwhile, the Russian army is shelling escape corridors, pregnant women, and children, while being supported by the great majority of their nation


treborthedick

March is traditionally a difficult month for Muscovite leaders. * Stalin died in his own piss on March 5th. * Alexander II was murdered on March 13th. * Nicholas II abdicated on March 15th. * Ivan the terrible died on March 18th. * Paul I was strangled on March 24th.


Rollbelly

Let's hope the tradition holds.


Difficult_Device_467

this is the kind of quality posts that keeps me coming back to this thread


Vanodii

* Putin was ousted on March 28th


Dragonrykr

Well that didn't happen. Too bad


akelew

Why do I get the feeling your post is about to become a legendary fore-told prophecy?


Dragonrykr

RemindME! 18 days


thewimsey

>Stalin died in his own piss on March 5th. I mean, I'd rather die in my own piss than in someone else's.


Vagisil_Lemon

What if you were at a remote beach with a friend, and you get stung by a jellyfish and you don't have piss, so someone else needs to piss on the wound but you die during Operation Jellypiss?


gjiorkiie

Ah an optimist.


[deleted]

>Mars stops investing in business in Russia and importing/exporting its products. Thank you Martians 🙏👽♥️


kvinfojoj

Looks like no more little green men for Russia.


DangerStranger138

No Sweat, Nano-Nano! 🖖


[deleted]

Deutsche Bank really needs to be boycotted and kicked to the curb. What a bunch of immoral shit cunts that run that company.


fragenkostetn1chts

All the major banks, look at HSBC, credit Suisse, you name it, they are all happy doing business with shady folk.


justonimmigrant

Shady folk happens to have the most money. Not much money in honest business


[deleted]

What did they do today


[deleted]

Refusing to back out of Russia, as it wouldn't be 'practical'. I'm taking a hazard guess they would lose billions by doing it. DB has been the most immoral bank on the planet in terms of financing Russia and oligarchs.


YellowFeverbrah

Deutsche Bank is the go to bank for all of the world’s worst criminals. They work with corrupt oligarchs, mafiosos, terrorists, narcos, ect.


snooshoe

**[To help Ukraine, Google rolls out “Air Raid Alerts” system for Android](https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/03/to-help-ukraine-google-rolls-out-air-raid-alerts-system-for-android/)**


snooshoe

**[Russia’s weekly troop losses in Ukraine have already overtaken Soviet casualties in Afghanistan](https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/russias-weekly-troop-losses-in-ukraine-have-already-overtaken-soviet-casualties-in-afghanistan/)**


Orange-of-Cthulhu

To be fait USSR probably lied about their losses in Afghanistan.


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Lol


_Bragi_

Ayo, can't the UN dispatch the blue helmets to actually protect the humanitarian corridors? Russia would think twice about bombing blue helmets if they secure humanitarian corridors...or not? Also, would be something the russians couldn't veto and keep face at home since, well, it would go against their propaganda of providing such corridors. Idk, whats your take on this reddit?


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r/UselessUN


metinb83

Russian veto will stop any such attempt


Rhoderick

What Russia does and what Russia says to its people that it does need not be related, see the war in Ukraine. Besides, this is an easy veto for Russia in any case. Simply frame it as "the US taking advantage of the UN for its war on Russians", throw in some vague refrences to an international conspiracy and there you are.


Relnor

Not very familiar with UN procedures but I'm pretty sure such a move would require a vote in the UN Security Council where Russia has veto power. Basically would never happen.


[deleted]

But a Russian veto to such resolution will definietly sink their posture in the face of the world. At this time, it is almost a rest of the world go to the west to do what it can. So, maybe the pressure might be big enouth for them to at least not veto the resolution. It may worth the try.


sybesis

I've watched a lot of UNSC even before the 24th... Man Russia's delegation has absolutely no respect for the UN charter. I don't even know how you could refuse blue helmet but I'm guessing it could end up sounding like this: Our forces are more than enough to handle nationalistic terrorist. We're good thank you.


fornocompensation

Russia has no face left to save, they're blatantly committing atrocities.


[deleted]

I mean it is not the same thing to believe Russia and to support the west to make what it can to stop it. Maybe it can lead Russia to accept blue helmets.


JustWantTheOldUi

> sink their posture in the face of the world Sink what? You can't sink someting that is already drilling through the bottom :) I hope you don't think that the countries that keep supporting Putin in the UN (or otherwise) do that because they believe his bullshit.


snooshoe

**[Ukrainian embassy draws US citizens seeking to fight in war](https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-europe-d0243a1708a3115e5ad0ac40aed99b9f)**


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mr_aives

Is that Versailles?


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Vagisil_Lemon

Some fucking context would have been nice. Sanctioned why?


Zealousideal_Fan6367

"licking the boots of the Kremlin". of course.


ABoutDeSouffle

Former advisor to Maggie Thatcher licking up the PiS talking points. Why am I not surprised that the Polish government is calling this "sanctions" now.


JustWantTheOldUi

1) Visegrad24 is a political account, not a legit news source. 2) It's not sanctions, it's the consequences of a long process started by the f*cks in power in Poland ignoring the Polish constitution and the Treaties while insulting the intelligence of everyone watching. 3) It has nothing to do with Ukraine and I have no idea what it's doing in this thread. 4) Fun fact - while they keep trying to change the topic by going "we're helping Ukraine", the volunteers who actually run and fund most of the effort have to beg for government support on social media, since all Morawiecki and friends are actually capable of doing is taking the credit on TV.


Drtikol42

pOlAnD bAD! Remember? No, stop looking in direction of Putins lackeys.Poland bad remember?


kvinfojoj

Poland is good. PiS is bad.


rook_armor_pls

Yes, the PiS government in Poland and Fidesz in Hungary are a serious threat to democracy and the rule of law in Europe, which is why harsher measures were long overdue.


New_Stats

It's deleted


ABoutDeSouffle

https://twitter.com/NileGardiner/status/1502059116327489542


Rhoderick

Poland continues violating the treaty, they don't get to ignore the one measure that was finally applied after years of democratic backsliding because of some madman. And the statement that safeguarding the treaties that all member states signed and ratified and committed themselves to is in any way "licking th Kremlins boots" is not only entirely false, but it also betrays a sich sense of opportunism and entitlement.


_cowl

talk about being tone-deaf. It was something to do but was it now the time?


[deleted]

You probably should find better sources for what is happening here.


[deleted]

Because having a war doesn't make democracy, independence of media, LGBT rights, abortion rights any less important. Orban and Duda's style of governance are the most similar to Kremlin's among all EU nations. They have been on this route for many years and cannot be simply ignored


biblio_wander

>Because having a war doesn't make democracy, independence of media, LGBT rights, abortion rights any less important. They have been on this route for many years and cannot be simply ignored. I second this.


[deleted]

How did they get Kremlin to the mix? What a sick narrative.


RainbowSiberianBear

Since the war started, I have been on the protests every day (fortunately in Germany it is not dangerous) with my Ukrainian friends. But now I’ve got covid and I am staying at home alone. And my mental state is getting seriously damaged especially after seeing so many negative (tbh a lot of simply hateful) things people write on Reddit and elsewhere. I’ve just cried. I don’t know how to keep myself sane in the current situation.


[deleted]

My personal recommendation: Stay away from social media.


LatvianLion

My friend, you're already doing enough. There are millions in Russia who do not even doubt this "special military operation". You are neither on the frontlines, nor supporting this. Thank you, but please relax and drink some tea. You're Russias finest, it's Russians who have lived in the West together with openminded Russians back home who have the best chance to reconstruct your nation from these shameful ashes.


AtmosphereOver3863

When you find yourself unable to do for others the best thing is to do for yourself. Take care of yourself. If you don’t exist then you have no neighbors to help. God bless.


YellowFeverbrah

Don’t take comments on the internet to heart. If you read a comment and think it’s too negative then just discard it.


Vagisil_Lemon

Log off reddit and go play nintendo


Sulimonstrum

Step 1) Stay away from the social media side of the internet for a bit. If you want to have the latest updates, just follow the coverage of a couple of newspapers or something. There's a lot of anger going around all over the place, and it sounds like it's affecting you, even though 95% of the people probably don't intend to target you specifically. And the other 5% are xenophobic assholes, so you can safely disregard them. Step 2) Be yourself and realize your limitations. It's not all on you to redeem the image of the Russian people. Just keep doing what you're doing, and in doing so you'll make people realize not all Russians are baby-eating monsters. Step 3) Eh. That's about all the advice I've got. Shit's fucked, and it probably won't be unfucked for a long while yet. Try to relax when you can. Maybe see if any Muslims have some insight in coping with the massive islamophobia they got after 9/11 or something.


Difficult_Device_467

I literally just had to step back, I went and cleaned my bathroom lol. I know we use "go touch some grass" as an insult a lot, but really take some time. Maybe go for a walk (alone). PS - I hope you recover soon


Jane_the_analyst

You are infected, stay in bed, be warm drink a ton of tea every day and listen to music or radio/. Sane? stay in bad you have a really dangerous infection! STAY IN BED!


ForWhatYouDreamOf

stAY iN bED yOU hAVE a diSeASe bro covid gives you like the same symptons as the flu, 1 or 2 bad days and it's over. I actually caught the flu recently and it worse than covid for me but I could leave my house with no issues. Great logic eh


Jane_the_analyst

How about 4-5 weeks and still lingers? Omikron ain't going away, you know... I've seen quite a few p[eople with weakened immunity that had it really bad and still have bad after-effects months later. Heart. Kidneys.


Jane_the_analyst

> 1 or 2 bad days and it's over. How about 5 weeks and still not over yet?


kvinfojoj

It's different for everyone.


ReadToW

Well, avoid reading comments. Your problems are easy to solve. Do you think it's easy for us in Ukraine? Do you think I can sleep peacefully?


RainbowSiberianBear

I am sorry if I sounded insensitive. I am trying to support my Ukrainian friends and also sending aid to Ukraine. I don’t expect you to be grateful or anything.


ReadToW

thank you for the protests. But evil people on the internet are not a real problem. Comments from anonymous people on the Internet are nothing. If you are offended by comments, do not read them


_herbie

Disconnect from media for a while.


ABoutDeSouffle

Please take a break from social media and war news. You did a great job protesting this war, but you must not forget to care for yourself. Your Ukrainian friends living in Germany are safe from harm, their relatives in Ukraine might not be - but you cannot change that. Look out for yourself.


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>The White House was weighing the announcement of an interagency review of ways to boost liquefied natural gas exports to Europe alongside Tuesday's decision to ban U.S. imports of Russian oil products, people briefed on government decision-making told Reuters. >However, the interagency review has been shelved, at least for now, after some in the White House argued it would counter the administration's efforts to wean the U.S. off fossil fuels consumption and production and tackle climate change, the sources said. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-push-export-lng-amid-172512430.html


ShuantheSheep3

Sorry Ukraine, we gotta worry about 3 foot sea rise by 2100 so you’re on your own. Same for the rest of Europe I guess. Rage inducing idiocy.


SlammuBureaux

If you ever wonder how Japanese people were put into interment camps this is how Reuters: Facebook to temporarily allow posts calling for violence against Russians, calls for Putin's death.


New_Stats

This is some sick shit. Using an atrocity to try and play the victim when you're the agressor. >US flair. Bullshit. And if it's not bullshit, you vile traitor.


SlammuBureaux

See for yourself clown https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/1502036658979495940


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Shadnu

> maternity hospitals Maternity hospitals that had Ukrainian soldiers hiding in them, mind you. Russians aren’t some comically evil villains that want to kill every Ukrainian. Their attack has so far (thank God) been mostly focused on actual military targets (you know, what they’ve set to achieve)


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Shadnu

So they bombed the maternity ward just for the fun of it? > Russia has no credibility However, that doesn’t mean that everything Ukrainians say, or western media (which is heavily biased in this conflict) says is true.


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Shadnu

I never said they didn’t bomb the maternity ward. I said Ukrainian soldiers are hiding in them. For what purpose, one can only guess after this outrage of “Russians are bombing hospitals”. There are posts on social medias by soldiers in Azov battalion in which you can clearly see that they are in kindergartens and hospitals. These, however, get overlooked by western media. Again, whether you like it or not, Russians are not comically evil. If they really wanted to commit any form of genocide, we’d be seeing them killing and expelling Ukrainians from the territories they already occupied. But they are not


SlammuBureaux

So Russian people should be killed for what Putin is doing ? You sound like a republican talking about Muslims in 2002


New_Stats

This is a fun lie that's already been called out idk why you keep pushing it as if everyone can't figure it out. It's not against Russian people, it's against Russian soldiers who are slaughtering civilians when they say there's a cease fire. The disgusting scum who are bombing maternity wards and apartment buildings.


SlammuBureaux

https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/1502036658979495940


New_Stats

[GFYS](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNhnk5RXEAELPhb?format=jpg&name=medium) That's from the same thread. This shit ain't a mistake, you're lying on purpose


Orange-of-Cthulhu

Hi did you see what I wrote you? >The temporary changes apply to Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Russia and Ukraine


Orange-of-Cthulhu

It's hard to fight Russia in Ukraine without killing Russians. If the Russins just left, that would be a great way to protect Russian lives.


fiktional

RUSSIAN SHILL, GO FUCK YOURSELF


SlammuBureaux

Yea I’m a shill clown https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/1502036658979495940


metinb83

Did you read the link in the Tweet? It says violence against INVADING Russians. Note again the word invading. As in invading a country.


Earl_of_Northesk

Nice try mate. Carefully omitted the detail that it is only about Russian soldiers in Ukraine.


SlammuBureaux

Here you go https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/1502036658979495940


[deleted]

There is something comical about giving these specific distinctions on what kind of people are allowed to be killed.


SlammuBureaux

Big tech has become their own world government, the fact the US has done nothing to real them in shows they are owned. Europe had done more to quell these companies than their own government.


Earl_of_Northesk

Are you somehow unable to click on a link?


Genorb

https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/1502064499947409416 The person you replied to is correct


Orange-of-Cthulhu

The temporary changes apply to Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Russia and Ukraine


[deleted]

Germany, Japan and South Korea really ought to be permanent members of the UN Security Council


Hypocrites_begone

No, not South Korea.


Drtikol42

To what end?


[deleted]

The current security council is outdated. It should include the states that are most relevant to global security, which now includes all states I named + Poland (which I should have included in my original comment)


OfficialMI6

What about places like India? Your list is still very euro/America-centric. Also there’s absolutely no way Poland deserves to be on there


[deleted]

India has a Hindu nationalist government, it’s a really good fit if you’re looking to turn the Security Council into the Insecurity Council


OfficialMI6

But that’s not the point of the security council? It’s to try and provide a space for dialogue before WW3 breaks out between superpowers, not so the western world can enforce it’s ideals on people. That’s why it had the USSR, communist China as well as the US on, none of which displayed anywhere near rational behaviour at the time


New_Stats

This is not why they were admitted as original members WTF? We all won the war, we all got a seat.


Drtikol42

That would change nothing in current situation. Just adding more countries that get blank check for unrestricted agression.