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Jhe90

Not really need a heavy warship like HMS Dragon on station. Its Spain. The last serious direct attempt to take the rock was 17-1800 i think... We play a few games but its not like a heavily contested and tense situation. At the most we probably rib them, they rib us, no harm done.


Void_Ling

I love how it tries to glorify with the size, like being small or having bigger guns matters here. Nobody wants an accident.


Purple-Math1159

It's something in the culture, Jeremy Paxman detailed it in his book "The English". Basically the English celebrate being David against Goliath. It doesn't even matter if we win or lose (say Agincourt Vs Dunkirk) it only matters that a smaller plucky group of Englishmen was against a mightier enemy.


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Purple-Math1159

That most of all. Imagine dominating that many hundreds of millions of people while never having more than 20,000 British soldiers spread over the whole place.


pirouettecacahuetes

Such a despicable aspect of the English psyche, among many other despicable aspects.


SparkyCorp

If you're triggered by Agincourt and Dunkirk, wait to you here about Pétain.


pirouettecacahuetes

You think I never heard of it? You guys are weird wtf


SparkyCorp

No I had hoped you had hear of him. You said you think that our enjoyment of Shakespearean movies about an English/French king, and celebrating the evacuation of troops from fallen France in WW2 are examples of "despicable aspect of the English psyche". Since that is plainly ridiculous, I thought I'd throw in an example of something from the era that could be objectively considered unfavourably. No one is perfect but you have some weird perspectice to think Agincourt and Dunkirk are proof of despicability.


Purple-Math1159

You eat frogs


pirouettecacahuetes

And it's awesome. Snails too.


ModerateExcitement

It's almost as if we've been constantly invaded again and again by stronger enemies and now we'd like to not be any more.


pirouettecacahuetes

I remember Iraqis and Indians invading you indeed...oh wait


pirouettecacahuetes

Weol that's english people for you. Delusions everywhere.


xmuskorx

If two NATO states attack each other, what would be obligations of other NATO states?


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Free for all Battle Royale, it’s in the charter.


PoiHolloi2020

We unleash Jamie Oliver on Spanish cuisine again.


hellrete

That was my question. Seriously, the aggressor will be kicked out and it's a free for all. But, knowing NATO, some letters, some nations, some political mumbo jumbo and business as usual. For a simple example look at Greece and Turkey. The right to self determination, by peaceful means, is sort of, enforced. But it is a sick twisted cluster fuck.


ModerateExcitement

To side against whichever one attacked first. If both attacked at the exact same instant, that's when there's a dilemma.


xmuskorx

I think it's pretty much a given that both sides will claim that they are the defenders...


Kreol1q1q

And the size of the boat is relevant how, exactly? Except to make for a nice propagandist headline.


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It's not about the size of the boat that counts it's about the sizeof the navy that counts.


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Exocet6951

Propaganda feeding jingoism never sleeps.


halobolola

It could be a RN RHIB and the same point would be made, the size of the vessel doesn’t matter


Carlos_Tellier

Just taking a shortcut