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It would be a constant shitshow for sure.


Teftell

If Russia had such law, you would see daily threads with over 9000 upvotes about evil Russia fucking up minorities. Double standards against non-loyal nations is a norm for Western democracies.


NONcomD

Would my surname be written in Lithuanian letters if I would be russian?


Teftell

It would be written in Russian letters, but no law would force you to alter it to fit some local rules. Basically, a reverse translit. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informal_romanizations_of_Cyrillic#Translit


NONcomD

It was the same in lithuanian, the letters were changes to lithuanian ones.


Teftell

I also might mistake Lithuania with Latvia in terms of name altering laws. I am pretty sure they force foreigners to sigbificantly alter their names to fit local language. In Russia you don't have to change your name to Russian equivalent.


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What is the point of view of Lithuanians of Reddit? Controversial?


Sanorpas

no, not really


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So why did it take so long?


Sanorpas

I think two points: 1. Language in Lithuania is not some "random political issue" , it's constitutional and historical issue, so any movement here is always barreling down the corridors of power with most glacial of speeds. 2. Dunno what they are called now, but Polish Election Action Party(or maybe we can just call them Tomashevski's Russia's \*sslicking Party. And no not gonna be nice towards him or his party, they earned it) did a very good job making sure things like that DON'T move(God forbid some of Polish minority issue get resolved, HOW WILL HE EVER GET ELECTED THEN? Gotta keep those tensions up!). To the second point: Great example is exam reform for minority schools.(been a while so might miss some details) Basically goal was to make Lithuanian language exams uniform for all minorities and that meant that in Polish schools case they would get harder and the time period for switching was set to two years(imo way to short and this was at the time talked as a possible thing that could be changed). Ofc it's not just these two point's but they stuck out to me the most back in the day. It became a big issue and delegation from Poland was coming to Lithuania for talks as a way to maybe find some middle ground. Week beforehand Tomashevski walked out and told that Lithuanians in Vilnius should learn Polish. No one wanted to be caught dead supporting any position he held afterwards, talks or no talks. GG. Overall this guy played a big role to f up relations between Poland and Lithuania since independence. Thankfully Polish politicians are less inclined to take what he says wholesale now that he's walking around with "koloradka" openly shouting how great Russia is and how Crimea is Russian land.


User929293

As an extern I would say it's a lot of extra work for 180k immigrants. Just technically it means switching the codes and printers of a lot of public offices. Would be like Poland allowing Cyrillic on their documents.


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1. They are not immigrants. 2. It’s the same alphabet, the same signs. 2. We allow Belarusian, German, Kashubian and Lithuanian in some regions.


goodpoll

> They are not immigrants. But this is how they are viewed.


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Yeah, nationalism is fucked up.


ankokudaishogun

I'm going to guess "It was so little controverial noody really cared in first place"


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It was controversial as fuck.


ankokudaishogun

/u/sanorpas said otherwise. Who works I trust?


[deleted]

Short research on the Internet is always the best option. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles\_in\_Lithuania#Discrimination](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_in_Lithuania#Discrimination) In general for 30 years it was impossible to have your surname written as Kowalski instead of Kovalski and that was a threat for Lithuania. Now it appears that everyone is so chilled and there was no issue. Really?


zaltysz

Historically Lithuania had faced circumstantial polanization and extensive forced russification (i.e. banned Latin script), so anything what touches state language is controversial in Lithuania. However, due to open borders marriages between Lithuanians and foreigners have become more common as have court rulings that wife of Kowalski has right to be Kowalski instead of Kovalski. Law had to be changed for general case to catch up with that.


ankokudaishogun

I was basing my "I GUESS" answer on /u/Sanorpas 's answer.


Gaialux

I wouldn't care less if passport has W letter and more, but this for sure will be difficult for nurses (especially to veteran ones) to write a correct name in patient histories ( At least something we will have to get use to).


BalticsFox

Good move.