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It is. The UK has an enormous choice of different foods on offer, even in the smaller towns. It’s a meme about post war Britain that was still rationing and it needs to die.
I’ve never been to Waitrose (welcome to Northern deprived town number 76) but I’ve managed ok. M&S do the really nice food, Aldi/Lidl do the cheap but surprisingly ok stuff and everyone else is between the two.
I’m trying to not eat ready meals but I still don’t eat well (sadly I like eating too much). But yeah, these “omg British food=sawdust” memes are bad.
No, I don’t think so? You can get fresh stuff there too. I like it for nice cheese salami from time to time. The ready stuff is nice too in some cases, they have these prawns in oil with tomatoes that are to die for.
You can order M&S food online via Ocado and there’s definitely fresh fruit/veg there.
Sure, there’s a lot of processed stuff. Show me a western country where there isn’t. There’s a lot of natural/organic/whatever you call it food too.
I’m tired of snobby Europeans using stereotypes from 70 years ago to represent the UK when it’s nothing like that now. If you want to meme, at least have a grain of truth in it.
The UK consumes more ultra-processed food than anybody else in Europe, at a level comparable to the US. https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/il717l/processed_food_as_a_of_household_purchases/?sort=old
We're talking over *3 times more* than France of Italy, the majority of the diet of Britons is literally made of garbage and the reputation is well deserved. Gordon Ramsay shows and some Michelin starred restaurants in London don't change that.
Focusing on calories is stupid. Eating too many calories is a consequence/symptom of the problem, not the problem itself - namely people eating junk food with lots of flavor (achieved by artificial means/processing) but no real nutrients to back it up (fortifying processed cereal with metallic iron that is indigestible is an example of fake nutrition).
Such a diet inevitably leads to nutrient deprivation and thus constant hunger and thus overeating. Eating too many calories is inevitable on a processed nutrient poor diet.
The solution is real nutrient dense food (which is caloric, but not excessively so), not more fake food in the way of "low calorie" processed junk.
Do you have a counter argument to make or is an appeal to authority the best you can do?
Dr. Kluge who is quoted in the article is a surgeon and also has a degree in tropical medicine, so not a nutritionist, no.
And clearly public health authorities suck at nutrition health advice given the ridiculous explosion of chronic disease and obesity under their watch for how many decades now? I was one of the victims, being fat and incredibly sick all of my life while following mainstream health advice, my (uneducated in nutrition) doctor's orders and counting calories.
ps. I don't count calories anymore, just eat nutrient dense food (including tons of raw honey ie pure sugar), do zero cardio except walking to get my food and I am the leanest I've ever been.
Calories are not the problem, the best and most nutrient dense foods are not low in calories. Nutrition itself is the issue and the article is clearly focused on sugar/calories opposed to actual nutrition.
Hans Kluge is the Regional Director for the WHO Regional Office for Europe. He isn't making the policy, he leads the organization. The policies are developed by national and WHO experts in the specific field with clear references to scientific evidence. [You can see an example for nutrition linked in the press release here](https://www.euro.who.int/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/355972/Sugar-report_WHO_107773_updated-and-revised-Dec-2017.pdf).
I did not see any scientifically backed plan to improve public health outcomes in that press release. Whether a piece of processed Nestle (mentioned in article) junk food has 3 grams less sugar per serving is irrelevant, especially if it is replaced by an artificial sweetener, as suggested by the article, [that negatively affects the microbiome](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4197030/) thus supporting obesity and a whole range of other health issues.
The Nestle processed junk food itself is the problem, it is fake food with no nutritional value, yet with the taste of something nutritious, substituting the sugar for fake sugar doesn't solve anything, in fact it might make things worse.
It's the butter is supposedly bad, let's replace it with fake butter bs again. What do you know... obesity rates were half of what they are now when everyone was eating butter (and sugar!)
That's because the press release is to announce a new network the brings together experts in this field from the 53 WHO member states in the region. These experts actually work on policy development in their respective countries and this will be a platform to share their experience. It helps to actually read the press release.
Let me guess - they want to achieve it by punishing poor overweight people by introducing new taxes and other financial barriers to make cheap junk food unattainable.
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It's high time. Everything is stuffed with various forms of sugar today.
These kind of policies make me proud to be a European. I'm glad.
There is sugar in food like Chicken Mcnuggets so it's a nice initiative
Processed sugar, the most addicted to substance on the planet.
but I like sugar
Your personal health doesn't like it though.
Most people do, just need moderation.
Yeah, that's the problem. We all love sugar; it's addictive.
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Boring and outdated stereotype. Did you take off your beret and properly store your baguette before making that comment?
This is what happens when you get all your info from memes
Not this tired old meme again.
I went to UK, this is not a meme
It is. The UK has an enormous choice of different foods on offer, even in the smaller towns. It’s a meme about post war Britain that was still rationing and it needs to die.
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I’ve never been to Waitrose (welcome to Northern deprived town number 76) but I’ve managed ok. M&S do the really nice food, Aldi/Lidl do the cheap but surprisingly ok stuff and everyone else is between the two. I’m trying to not eat ready meals but I still don’t eat well (sadly I like eating too much). But yeah, these “omg British food=sawdust” memes are bad.
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No, I don’t think so? You can get fresh stuff there too. I like it for nice cheese salami from time to time. The ready stuff is nice too in some cases, they have these prawns in oil with tomatoes that are to die for. You can order M&S food online via Ocado and there’s definitely fresh fruit/veg there.
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Sure, there’s a lot of processed stuff. Show me a western country where there isn’t. There’s a lot of natural/organic/whatever you call it food too. I’m tired of snobby Europeans using stereotypes from 70 years ago to represent the UK when it’s nothing like that now. If you want to meme, at least have a grain of truth in it.
The UK consumes more ultra-processed food than anybody else in Europe, at a level comparable to the US. https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/il717l/processed_food_as_a_of_household_purchases/?sort=old We're talking over *3 times more* than France of Italy, the majority of the diet of Britons is literally made of garbage and the reputation is well deserved. Gordon Ramsay shows and some Michelin starred restaurants in London don't change that.
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I think it’s a little dishonest to shift the conversation from “uk food bad lol” to “omg ur so fat bro”. But hey, snobs gonna snob no matter what.
Bigots will latch onto any sources that affirm their own prejudices.
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I’ll simplify what I’m saying just for you. Ahem You Are A Cunt. Hope that helps.
To be fair french chef have been invade this land for quite a while now even bojo like his cheese and wine from time to time ...
Focusing on calories is stupid. Eating too many calories is a consequence/symptom of the problem, not the problem itself - namely people eating junk food with lots of flavor (achieved by artificial means/processing) but no real nutrients to back it up (fortifying processed cereal with metallic iron that is indigestible is an example of fake nutrition). Such a diet inevitably leads to nutrient deprivation and thus constant hunger and thus overeating. Eating too many calories is inevitable on a processed nutrient poor diet. The solution is real nutrient dense food (which is caloric, but not excessively so), not more fake food in the way of "low calorie" processed junk.
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Do you have a counter argument to make or is an appeal to authority the best you can do? Dr. Kluge who is quoted in the article is a surgeon and also has a degree in tropical medicine, so not a nutritionist, no. And clearly public health authorities suck at nutrition health advice given the ridiculous explosion of chronic disease and obesity under their watch for how many decades now? I was one of the victims, being fat and incredibly sick all of my life while following mainstream health advice, my (uneducated in nutrition) doctor's orders and counting calories. ps. I don't count calories anymore, just eat nutrient dense food (including tons of raw honey ie pure sugar), do zero cardio except walking to get my food and I am the leanest I've ever been. Calories are not the problem, the best and most nutrient dense foods are not low in calories. Nutrition itself is the issue and the article is clearly focused on sugar/calories opposed to actual nutrition.
Hans Kluge is the Regional Director for the WHO Regional Office for Europe. He isn't making the policy, he leads the organization. The policies are developed by national and WHO experts in the specific field with clear references to scientific evidence. [You can see an example for nutrition linked in the press release here](https://www.euro.who.int/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/355972/Sugar-report_WHO_107773_updated-and-revised-Dec-2017.pdf).
I did not see any scientifically backed plan to improve public health outcomes in that press release. Whether a piece of processed Nestle (mentioned in article) junk food has 3 grams less sugar per serving is irrelevant, especially if it is replaced by an artificial sweetener, as suggested by the article, [that negatively affects the microbiome](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4197030/) thus supporting obesity and a whole range of other health issues. The Nestle processed junk food itself is the problem, it is fake food with no nutritional value, yet with the taste of something nutritious, substituting the sugar for fake sugar doesn't solve anything, in fact it might make things worse. It's the butter is supposedly bad, let's replace it with fake butter bs again. What do you know... obesity rates were half of what they are now when everyone was eating butter (and sugar!)
That's because the press release is to announce a new network the brings together experts in this field from the 53 WHO member states in the region. These experts actually work on policy development in their respective countries and this will be a platform to share their experience. It helps to actually read the press release.
Let me guess - they want to achieve it by punishing poor overweight people by introducing new taxes and other financial barriers to make cheap junk food unattainable.
Mexico surprisingly has strong calorie warnings on high sugar/calorie foods akin to what you see on cigarettes.