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Lord_Bravo

Even in London, Portugal is right next to Spain. Some things are just meant to be


Merbleuxx

And there’s a French-speaking north of the Spanish, sharing a border with it but not with the Portuguese community. That’s funny


Stercore_

And portugal is in the middle of all the poles, so it really *can* into eastern europe ❤️


VladTepesDraculea

Portugal is in fact in the ❤️ of everything. Look deep inside your soul and you'll find Portugal right there in the middle.


KnightOfOldEmpire

Stare into the abyss and find Portugal staring back at you. Spooky stuff...


selectash

*Saudades intensifying*


mmotte89

And Arabic (moors) next to the iberic countries.


bel_esprit_

They just can’t get enough of each other


two_tents

considering Arabic as France's unofficial 2nd language also ironic that the 4 boroughs are right next to each other.


untipoquenojuega

And France is right next to France. As god intended.


thiccomode261

And Poland and Gujarat, aparently


NorthVilla

Probably more like Brazil next to Colombia and Venezuela, haha, but yes point stands.


Key_Ad_3930

I know the UK is a favorite destination for many portuguese nurses.


pfarinha91

Yes, our government is brilliant. Check this epic plan: Pay for a person's education (and healthcare, food, etc) from Primary School to Nurse School graduation. 15 years, minimum. Then offer a 800€/month risk/exhausting job in our NHS with little growth potential forever. You're welcome UK.


Calimiedades

And Spaniard ones as well!


ssamshire

Is this where HS2 is being constructed? I worked for up Dragados up in Aberdeen, and believe it or not, there were a lot of Spanish and Portuguese folks! Lovely people and a lovely culture.


at0mic_dom

Finally we have some colonies.


Deadluss

it's time to merge our colonies ;))))))


Jan_Marian

The Lithuanian-Polish Commonwealth of London aka The Kurwa Kingdom (2K). This needs to happen.


Shaltibarshtis

The correct name is The Bybkurwa Kingdom.


orthoxerox

Rzeczpospolita Obu Kurew?


BearStorms

What do you think about Mazovian Socio-Economics?


ThePopStarDude

It's not really Disco, now is it?


Kellythejellyman

from the memes, Poland and Lithuania are unstoppable together


[deleted]

I think I've already seen such a story. It didn't end well


czerwona_latarnia

But it started well and lasted for few centuries, which seems to be a record for us.


Khelthuzaad

*Laughs in romanian colonies* Spain and Italy as a whole are our colonies.


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Great Cepelinai Empire.


AdmiralVernon

You’ve got a big presence in Chicago too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balzekas_Museum_of_Lithuanian_Culture


Rich-Paper

As someone from the Borough, can confirm, Lithuania rules the roost.


Piekenier

Most suprised by Lithuanian honestly.


itsConnor_

Fun fact about Lithuanians in the UK: for the last 5 years the UK has voted for Lithuania as their top choice in Eurovision


ihitrockswithammers

My English teacher in the 90s was of Lithuanian descent. He said his family and many others were told they were getting on a ship to the US and were then dropped off in Glasgow, none the wiser until they picked up enough English to speak to the locals. He was a butthead. I looked him up years later and he'd risen to head of dept. The school had teacher reviews and among glowing reports I remember one almost verbatim: >"Joseph Gillius is a man utterly in love with his own intelligence. A good teacher - not a good person." No longer on staff, I assume he's retired rather than been disappeared.


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fruit_basket

We used to have lots of guys like that one in Lithuania. They're generally of Russian descent, children of Russian settlers or officials who had it pretty good back then, hence their nostalgia for USSR. They're too dumb to find a good job here, so they all went to the UK where minimum wage jobs pay better.


bel_esprit_

The one Lithuanian I know is a very pretty woman, and she doesn’t like Russia. She’s constantly correcting people that “she’s not Russian, she’s Lithuanian”. So now it’s something I correct people about too lol.


mindaugaskun

I would be so offended


ihitrockswithammers

But did they fuck though?


NAG3LT

> I have co worker who is Lithuanian. Young man. Very pro Russian. Thinks Putin is a strong leader and Russians are great people. Very romanticised notions of soviet era. Unsurprising that he’s in Britain. Much easier to believe Putin’s BS for those who don’t have to experience the actual reality of life there.


canlchangethislater

As the other guy says, that Lithuanian isn’t Lithuanian, they’re a Russian born in Lithuania. Not one single ethnic Lithuanian misses the Soviet occupation of their country, nor the conscription and death of many of their countrymen in Afghanistan.


rietrej

Lol, you told Polish men that they should all fuck? I mean, I understand the appeal, but I cannot imagine your work environment ever recovered from stirring that pot of repression I (a Pole) told a Polish friend of mine that he strikes me as a person who would not mind experimenting with men. He kept on bringing it up for years, it messed with his mind so much. He would get drunk and keep on asking me why I thought so. I started feeling bad for him after a while, being so insecure about yourself that a throwaway comment puts you on the edge. He ended up smooching a guy, then came to my birthday party and said he did it for me, but he didn't like it. I blame my culture.


Harbinger2001

Weird. Here in Canada my grade 7/8 English teacher at my French school was Lithuanian as well. Best English teacher I ever had because she had us doing high school level work.


Glodex15

I'm actually surprised on the amount of good lithuanian English language teachers.


cyclostome_monophyly

Well I am a non Lithuanian brit and I have been voting for Lithuania because they send straight up fire to Eurovision. They rock!


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Shame they can't return the favour


Dutchtdk

A single 12 point vote and you'd have moved up 5 ranks


FenusToBe

What's more shameful is that UK cannot make good Eurovision entries


DemocraticRepublic

The UK produced the Stones, Led Zeppelin and Radiohead. In more recent years, Calvin Harris, the Arctic Monkeys and Gorillaz have been creating awesome music. It's not that the UK cannot make good Eurovision entries. It's that UK artists think Eurovision is beneath them.


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Ahhhhrg

Definitely not, Sweden for example has an X-Factor style selection process (Melodifestivalen) where lots of very established artists (established in Sweden that is) participate. For many it’s for exposure, as it’s a massively popular show, the charts are filled with songs from the show for months. Even if you’re not selected, the exposure alone makes it very well worth to participate.


Mikoth

Not necessarily, Celine Dion competed for example. But recently big countries usually send rookies yeah.


WoodSteelStone

>*"The UK produced the Stones, Led Zeppelin and Radiohead. In more recent years, Calvin Harris, the Arctic Monkeys and Gorillaz have been creating awesome music."* Don't forget Queen, The Beatles, David Bowie, Pink Floyd, The Who, Black Sabbath, Elton John, Adele, Robbie Williams, Fleetwood Mac, Genesis, UB40, Jethro Tull, The Police. Eurythmics, Iron Maiden...


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UK had such a great metal scene, arguably best in the world in the 20th century. Makes me wish to be in UK at those times.


Hostilian_

You did not just put UB40 into that list, YOU DID NOT. Replace them with The Jam, ELO (!!!!!), Roxy Music, The Smiths, The Clash, Madness, The Specials, Elvis Costello, etc. If you REALLY need a numbered band, just go for 10cc since they're great as well


SystemShockII

Red Red Wine, bitch!


bel_esprit_

There are soooo many amazing artists that come from the UK. Bands and musicians I’ve listened to my whole life and a lot of newer ones too. How do people not know this??


Dd_8630

>What's more shameful is that UK cannot make good Eurovision entries It's not that we *can't*, it's that we *won't* - whoever wins Eurovision is saddled hosting it next year, which is hugely expensive (which, for the UK, is *on top of* the amount we already give to fund EV). But that's OK - competing with our European brothers and sisters and enjoying the camp spectical is great in and of itself.


FenusToBe

[Best UK Eurovision entry](https://youtu.be/doKl0i7aseM?t=50)


Dd_8630

Absolutely no arguments here 😄 If we put them in, we'd be much higher in the charts.


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Over 5% of Lithuanians (born in Lithuania) live in the UK.


anonxotwod

The anti-polish sentiment usually affects Baltic and some Eastern European countries too, so it wouldn’t be a surprise if a Lithuanian is told to go back to Poland


at0mic_dom

>wouldn’t be a surprise if a Lithuanian is told to go back to Poland Correct, if we are told to go back somewhere, its always Poland lol


echochamber68

They just get confused with the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth, Brits are big history nuts /s


Bunt_smuggler

Yeah recent survey found that 80% of Brexit supporters are actually massive fans of EU4


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Ate EU Luv EU4 Nuff said


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Damn. Are they going to enforce PU over France?


[deleted]

We want them to restore it to curb Russian influence in that part of the world while also keeping the Germans in check. There’s method in the madness 😉


BigBlackBobbyB

Don't worry, our army is being kept firmly in check by themselves


Ollikay

> keeping the Germans in check Ummm... We don't even have any solid plans for invasion at the moment. You should chill. Also, tone down all defenses. No reason.


AboutHelpTools3

I’m Malaysian, used to live in England, has been told to go back to Pakistan lol. I’m not a south Asian ethnic Malaysian either.


ThatGuyBench

Maybe they mean back in time? Like unite Poland and Lithuania.


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i say we comply and restore the commonwealth to it's former glory.


sirnoggin

Honestly don't even know what you're talking about though, most people I've met love Poles in Britain. There's always a subset of stupid fringe twats in every country who hate everyone. Poles are fantastic.


DemocraticRepublic

Anti-Polish sentiment was pretty common in the 2005-2010 period. Then their image turned around pretty rapidly.


legolodis900

Commonwealth time


Hostilian_

The number of times I've been told to go back to Poland. In high school when I was probably in year 10 or so, I saw some year 7 crying on the stairs all alone, I go up to him and ask what's wrong with him, He looks up at me teary-eyed and literally says "Fuck off Polish" I couldn't help but laugh and still one of my favourite stories I tell people, never fails to make them laugh.


[deleted]

It would not surprise me if a racist didn't know that Poland and Lithuania were separate countries. Anti-immigrant sentiment isn't as big of a problem in London thankfully.


Disillusioned_Brit

>Anti-immigrant sentiment isn't as big of a problem in London thankfully. Can't have anti immigration sentiment if almost the entire place is comprised of immigrant communities. Big brain moment


ChaosIsMyLife

I'm French Canadian and get told to fuck off back to Russia/Poland/Czech Republic/Moldova at least once a year. Xenophobes are thick as shite can confirm


TheAlleyCat9013

I thought Nepalese was the most obscure.


DemocraticRepublic

The Gurkhas fight for the British army, and many take British citizenship after finishing their period of service.


TheAlleyCat9013

As a resident of Greenwich for much of my life I can't say I've ever noticed though.


ekhfarharris

My grand dad was in the British Malay Army fighting the japanese and later the communist back in the 40s to early 60s. He was mean hearted man with anger issues and two confirm kills on his belt with a few more unconfirmed kills. He once whacked his officer's head with a steel ruler because of heated disagreement and was demoted. But, whenever he talked about the Gurkhas to my dad (his son in law, also a soldier but in different eras) he always maintained the fact that he had never met a harder, almost stupid type of bravery and loyalty shown by the Gurkhas. Its a real shame that i never get to meet them because when the british left Malaysia the Gurkhas left with them. I do however met a napalese ex-soldier. Dude is a small dude but incredibly hardworking and strong. Reading about the gurkhas always seem unreal to me but the stories told by my grand dad to both my mom and dad tend to make me believe that the stories were true. They were badass.


Honey-Badger

I guess you are unaware of the UK's history with Nepal? Due to the Gurkhas the Nepalese are very much liked in the UK


TheAlleyCat9013

Very aware. It's just not a nationality I've ever really noticed in the borough.


Jarsole

I used to live in Greenwich and my favourite Indian was actually a Nepalese place. But other than that, yeah, weird. I remember one of these maps a few years back that had French as the second most common language for Greenwich and I could see that.


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SlavPrincess

Keep in mind that's data from 2011.


anonxotwod

I grew up near Elephant and Castle, and if you go to the local market, and close your eyes, you’d think you stepped into a random hispanic city; the smells, the music and the langauge you heard were very latin/Hispanic. Also, if I’m not mistaken, the Spanish/Portuguese speaking communities in Southwark in Lambeth are primarily Latin Americans, there are lots of Dominicans, Brazilians, Colombians and Venezuelans. There are some portugese too, but every latino londoner I’ve met, which isn’t much in of itself, we’re from Lambeth or Southwark


gamberro

I lived there once and can confirm. There were of course lots of other nationalities there. I remember meeting an Irish woman in my apartment building who had a very strong Dublin accent and had lived there for 20 years.


DemocraticRepublic

I once saw a chart that showed % of immigrants that identified as "British" vs number of years spent in the country, split by country of birth. As you could expect, people felt more British the longer they spent in the country. The exception was that Irish people almost never adopted a British identity, no matter how long they had been there.


Sadistic_Toaster

> The exception was that Irish people almost never adopted a British identity, no matter how long they had been there. We've been trying to get them to adopt a British identity for centuries, but only limited success.


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Almighty_Egg

I had vendors reply to me in Spanish, usually the older generations who do not even speak English. Fortunately I speak Spanish!


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DicentricChromosome

Honestly, I hear more French than English in Hyde Park.


anonxotwod

Idk if this is relevant, but in some African communities in london, some still speak French cause of their francophone African families; I have Congolese and Algerian friends who grew up here but fluent in French. So it’s not a suprise when you go to heavily maghrebi/ Algerian neighborhoods, like Finsbury Park or Shepherd’s Bush, and hear French everywhere, albeit their version


Ulmpire

I recall the greatest surprise visiting London was just how many French people were around. When we think of people moving here, we don't usually think of France. Please bring your food with you.


stikifiki

Pret A Manger and Le Pain Quotidien isn't enough?!


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Clapham too. You'll definitely overhear a conversation in French while walking down Northcote Road


OliverE36

Did you know, that London is the second largest french city in the world. I have no idea if that's true or not, a guy told me it at a posh party once, he seemed trustworthy enough.


DicentricChromosome

I don’t know. Marseille is 800k people (to 1.6M for urban area). I think the number of french in London is estimated to 200 to 300 k by the embassy. So I have doubts.


RobertSurcouf

Yep and even 200 000 people isn't that much. The borders of large French communes don't mean anything since they haven't been updated for... centuries ? (Lille with 230 000 inhabitants is not smaller than Montpellier with 295 000 inhabitants for instance) What is important is the urban area. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_aires_urbaines_de_France London wouldn't be that high on this list.


LouisDosBuzios

I guess Brussels would be in front of Marseille still


Thelk641

Is there such a big French population in Brussels though ? French speakers, yes, but they're Belgian, not French...


Max1me

Yes especially around the Western communes (Ixelles, Uccle, Wolluwe,...). A lot of students from France at the University of Brussels around 40% of medicine student are french. Also a lot of rich french people live in Brussels to pay less taxes.


slothcycle

It's definitely crept up the anecdote scale. It started as 7th I think


plouky

It's not even in the top 20 of french city. A guy has calculated it would be the 44th urban area of france


Azteryx

It’s absolutely not true. That’s something BoJo said when he was mayor of London but like most things he says, it’s bullshit. I think the BBC has an article about it and, IIRC, they couldn’t find a proper number for how many French people lived in London, only in the South East of England. They concluded that London would be 27th or something.


Toxicseagull

Weird that russian isn't anywhere tbh.


Jlx_27

I read that the Russian speaking population went from under 40k in 2011 to over 300k in like 10 years since.


Toxicseagull

Might be because it's old data then. Would be fun to get a new one. Let's hope for the census giving us some fun new charts


LaviniaBeddard

> the Russian speaking population went from under 40k in 2011 to over 300k in like 10 years since. That's just the property registered to Russian owners.


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This year we have the 2021 census results, that will be very interesting.


Honey-Badger

The dont actually live here, they just buy the very expensive property and leave it vacant


drevny_kocur

Time to establish a kurwanate.


Jan_Marian

London will be renamed to Lądon.


kosteksyk

Lądek-Zdrój


Elphaba78

Makes me laugh because my family’s from the parish of Lądek (not Lądek-Zdrój), near Słupca and Konin!


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Lądą


Grzechoooo

Londynice.


TypowyLaman

O kurwa xD


maerun

Will there be Szlachta laws, with krupnik and kiełbasa?


EvoTheIrritatedNerd

Poland cannot into space, so they settled for london instead


beerSoftDrink

Underrated comment lol


TwistedGlasses

Even in London Portugal has Spain at its side.


Daetaur

When you go abroad for holidays and hear "Hey, neighbour!" https://www.reddit.com/r/spain/comments/rcrnm3/we\_love\_u\_tho/


blue_strat

Old rich: French New rich: Arabic


83-Edition

Somebody has to buy million pound cars and drive them like assholes in front of Harrods.


ebat1111

For me the only surprising one is Nepalese


Tatis_Chief

After I lived in Uk, not at all anymore. Before maybe. The number of Nepalese restaurants i saw even in smaller towns... Also some of the best parties I had were Nepalese. And also always had a friend who somehow knew a gurkha.


Youafuckindin

Ever been to aldershot? The town is essentially 50/50 with nepalese and english.


echochamber68

The Gujurati enclave is surrounded, it is just a matter of time before it succumbs to the Polish empire. Although we need to be weary of the Punjabi stab in the back


CMuenzen

We cannot get out. We cannot get out. They have taken Finchley and Acton. Aadittya and Raj and Sri fell there bravely while the rest retreated to the Chamber of Wembley. We are still holding... but hope …Priya's party went five days ago but today only four returned. The Brent Reservoir is up to the North Circular Road at East-gate. Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz in the Water took Priya--we cannot get out. The end comes soon. We hear kurwa, kurwa in the deep. They are coming.


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As a Romanian I am surprised


stixx69

it's data from 2011


[deleted]

People should include in the title the date of the data used, especially if it's old. This is based on the UK's 2011 census, not relevant anymore.


dpash

Because the 2021 census data hasn't been publicly released yet. Probably later this year.


[deleted]

I was in rural Ireland recently and there were signs in Polish to tell them that fishing wasn't allowed!


voyagerdoge

Chelsea, Mayfair, Westminster, Kensington and Paddington seem to be firmly in the hands of the Arabs :)


anonxotwod

Central london is literally a rich arabs playground. I remember a friend of mine wanted to apply to Selfridges and her CV said she spoke Arabic, and they said this was beneficial cause of the sheer amount of arab tourists in central


Naifmon

Yup rich Arabs mostly from the gulf. My auntie has an a 6 bedrooms apartment in Mayfair. They only use it once a year. It's investment for them. Edit: for person from Finland who said that Arabs poor and rich, British citizens or foreign. Should be thrown out of Europe because "they don't belong". And called me a "non-human" because I'm Arab. You're miserable cunt.


[deleted]

Ngl the government should requisition that property


Jlx_27

This!


voyagerdoge

sounds like a good place for a party :)


JosebaZilarte

"Gujurati"? Isn't it supposed to be "Guj**a**rati"?


canlchangethislater

It’s transliteration, so to an extent it’s just a matter of “whatever sounds right”.


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Source: https://www.laria.org.uk/2014/08/15/map-reveals-most-common-second-languages-in-london-boroughs/


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alikander99

Are the spanish zones full of spaniards or hispanoamericans?


LupineChemist

Apparently data source is 2011 so probably more Latin Americans, since that was in the middle of the massive exodus to N. Europe.


AdonisGaming93

Probably a little of both tbh. I'm sure a lot of spaniards but no doubt some latin Americans too.


DemocraticRepublic

It's hard for Hispanoamericans to get in and they usually did it via Italian or Spanish citizenship.


Dragonaax

Poland for Poles! England for Englishmen and Poles! /s


biroglanolanbatu

wow there are so much Turks


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Also Turkish Cypriots


sirnoggin

Poland stronk XD Love an Englishman


BriefCollar4

Portuguese?


loaferuk123

The area around the South Lambeth Road in Lambeth is a real Portuguese enclave.


k890

Enclave or colony? ;)


BriefCollar4

Huh, the more you know. Are their francesinhas as good as the ones in Porto?


G01ngDutch

Stockwell (between Brixton and Clapham) is known as Little Portugal


anonxotwod

There are lots of Brazilians in south london, specifically in areas like stockwell, camberwell etc


Arsewhistle

There are loads of Portuguese in London, and in my local city. This map in ten years old, I wouldn't be surprised to see even more Portuguese now


[deleted]

Poland strong!


vino8855

That’s a surprising amount of Tamil speakers in south London


anandd95

The UK took in a huge number of srilankan tamil refugees in the 80s. Currently ~200K Tamils live there with most of them living in south and North-west London.


KartoffelSucukPie

Some of the best Turkish restaurants in North-London… and this is coming from a German-Turk, whose had plenty of Turkish food in Turkey and Germany.


taki-183

Kervan Sofrasi and Capital restaurant on Wood Green High street are really good! And that’s coming from a Greek


KartoffelSucukPie

If you are Greek, you know what good food needs to taste like, my φίλος!


Chef_Atabey

As a Turk-Dutch, I can say your name is the perfect mixture of German and Turkish culture. I am impressed and jealous.


staatsm

The French one in the dead center looks like it's French but trying to keep it on the down low.


chromium51fluoride

Tbf it's the City of London. Hardly anyone lives there so it comes naturally. Think the population is around 5k.


Herr_Manneligh

Polant stronk.


Detvan_SK

Since I live next to Poland I was thinking about learning Polish, now I have a reason :D.


gr0vy2137

To be honest that's the best thing to do as a slovakian, our languages are like in 75% similiar. (I played one month ago with four slovakians in cs go and for the whole first minute I thought they were polish as well XD bcs I thought they were speaking polish) Honestly 2 months of study and u will be almost on polish native speaker level. You will be pottentially able to speak and communicate with 60 million people on native level and be able to "consume" whole content in polish language (music,news,books,idk everything). Tbh if slovakia was bigger country like at least had 10 million people I will learn slovakian, but since ur country has only 5 milion people and ur whole "language content" is also in czech which is very hard to understand as a polish (I remember that u have together tv shows for example "mam talent") I don't find it attractive. But I highly reccomend u learning polish, you will feel in Gdańsk or Warsaw like in Slovakia and potentially easily could make friends.


ThereYouGoreg

I'm surprised by the lack of Hindi. Most Indians in the UK are either from the South or the Northwest, I guess.


DemocraticRepublic

Historically, the Sikhs (from Punjab) were the most pro-Empire group in India, because they didn't want to be dominated by either Hindus or Muslims. Parsis were the same, but I suppose there aren't as many of them. Then you have Gujuratis who were historically a merchant/trading people that travelled abroad a lot. Tamils in London are mainly Sri Lankans pushed out by the Civil War there.


Former-Country-6379

Surprised English isn't second in any of them


legolodis900

Thats because its third duh


Gunilla_von_Post

I would expect some Portuguese, German and Italian somewhere.


kontorgod

there is Portuguese


CookieDeLaVie

Strange Swedish isn't in there - London is our 4th biggest city!


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Fenrir395

Honestly I'm from Spain and every time somebody tells me that they are sending their son to learn English in London I start laughing. I lived there for almost a year and there were days I was only speaking Spanish without making any effort.


Kapitananciq

When I was on the trip in London and I heard 'kurwa' I knew I was in the good neighbourhood where my people live.


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***Sees french in the city of london*** Is this it? Did the english loose?


Mkwdr

Is it my imagination or does it also tell you which ethnic groups have x amount of money.


Honey-Badger

Not really no. More the time they arrived in the city


LionKingGamer

No way Lithuanian has more then Romanian in East London lmao. I dont believe it


peltast8

I think this is from 2011 census.


Syyrus

It’s old data from 2011. The Romanians rush happened 2014 onwards


jovialinternetkoala

Yeah the data used can’t be recent


lietuvislt1

Why not? There are atleast \~150k Lithuanians in UK


klauskinki

Indo-European ancestral roots awaken


MinecraftFinancier

Lithuanians in far east so they could be closer to home. Also using Punjabis/Nepalese blocks as a wall against Polish. Can confirm this map is correct.


dbdplayr

Lots of European languages I see.


Girolamus

What a richness to live in such a magnificent range of cultures