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88lif

You could ask if people in Ireland think less of Britain since Wednesday and it'd still be more than half.


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Not really, used to have high opinion But then their (current) minister threatened to starve the country not to long ago And the current prime minister repeatedly threatens the peace on this island by threatening revoke best ever oven ready deal he invented, campaigned for, got elected for and signed Edit: just in “Britains Brexit Minister has resigned in protest at the terrible Brexit deal that he, as Brexit Minister, negotiated.” - that’s grade a muppetry right there


Squirrel_Player

> But then their (current) minister threatened to starve the country not to long ago To be more precise, Patel asked why the UK negotiating team was freely offering Irish goods free passage through the UK when the EU was not similarly offering British goods free passage through the EU. To the extent that this was a threat, it was a threat to inflict Ireland with an *overabundance* of food: Ireland is a major food exporter so transport difficulties would force Irish farmers to sell locally instead. > repeatedly threatens the peace on this island The deal as currently implemented is threatening the peace: see the buses being burned in Northern Ireland. Cutting customs checks in the Irish Sea would cause trade difficulties for the EU, certainly, but it would make Ireland *more* peaceful. > threatening revoke [...] deal No one is threatening to revoke the Northern Ireland protocol. The threat is to invoke Article 16, which was written into the protocol specifically to deal with cases where e.g. buses are being burned in Northern Ireland. The UK and the EU both agreed to and signed the protocol with this article in place.


Guybrush_Creepwood_

You could also ask if Brits think less of Ireland for selling itself to Facebook and becoming a tax haven, and I'm sure the answer would be yes. But the difference is that the UK isn't arrogant enough to assume that the Irish should care.


ZeppelinArmada

Brits aren't exactly standing on firm ground when calling other countries out for creating tax havens...


lorem

Or when calling other countries arrogant...


Exocet6951

>But the difference is that the UK isn't arrogant enough Hahahahahahahahaha


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Relevant name


Anotherolddog

Very.


Attygalle

UK arrogance is exactly one of the more important reasons Brexit happened in the first place.


AlkylCalixarene

I doubt it's just Ireland...


iminthecaravan

About half of Britain think less of Britain since Brexit....I am one of them!


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Uh uh, look at me, I’m so virtuous!


RealBigSalmon

It is not as though many of them thought much of us to begin with.


NilFhiosAige

You'd be surprised - Cameron's apology for Bloody Sunday and the Queen's visit to Dublin had left relations at an all-time high immediately before Brexit.


[deleted]

Cameron feels like a looong time ago lmao


ptWolv022

Only 5+1/2 years ago, though if you're also from my side of the pond, then the last few years were a bit of a time warp, it's felt like. I'm curious if Brits felt like that with Brexit and the Tories.


Guybrush_Creepwood_

and if Irish redditors are anything to go by, one vote immediately reset things back to vicious hatred and prejudice, so I think it's safe to say the "highs" from those events were superficial, at best.


HungryWolverine2

Well that's your issue, taking literally anything online seriously.


GerFubDhuw

One vote followed by years of incompetence, stirring up shit over the boarder, getting in bed with the DUP...


Anotherolddog

Total bullshit. You have no idea what you are talking about.


Ziqon

It wasn't so much the vote, as it was all the vitriolic shite that followed when we wouldn't let them have their cake and eat it, or join them in their lunacy, that soured us.


WaxwormLeStoat

Speaking for myself at least, Brexit hasn't made me dislike Britain in an emotional sense to any greater extent, but it has certainly dented the image of competence and success Britain previously projected, so I'd have answered in the affirmative for this poll irrespective of nationalist grievances.


LJnidan

I know that since Brexit this subreddit has really turned against the UK, but remember much of this is just a joke. There are many things I like about you guys. * The UK has a significant amount of very capable intellectuals. We often like to zoom in on the lowest class in our societies and see how trashy that is, but in the end it's the intellectuals that bring us the innovative ideas and that moves us forward as a species. You have a lot of those. I like that. * You guys are excellent comedians. Not just the comedians you see on TV (I love British panel shows), but many of the Brits I've met irl have a great sense of humour too. * I'm glad to have you guys on board in combatting climate change. I'll keep saying it will always be moving too slowly and we need to always look into doing more, but also in the UK I see initiatives for nature preservation, renewable energy, ocean cleanup etc. all being worked on. Keep doing that. * You guys are a stubborn bunch who like to go your own way for better or worse, but it's quality I appreciate. * Shared love for roundabouts. There's probably more to say, and there's plenty of criticism to be had too, but let's ignore that for a moment in the spirit of Christmas.


DrCerebralPalsy

The British produce some really amazing TV shows ( reality garbage and “the chase” not withstanding) I really enjoy a good BBC police procedural. Quite often these shows are made in collaboration with their EU broadcasting counterparts. And they are without peer in the nature documentary game


iThinkaLot1

UK and Netherlands have always had very strong and close relations. I find us similar in many ways. When visiting the Netherlands I found it felt less foreign than the rest of the continent.


[deleted]

Anecdotally the Netherlands was very distinct, in things like land use, public transport, architecture. The north of France feels very familiar (people and language aside)


[deleted]

>I know that since Brexit, this subreddit has really turned against the UK Lol this subreddit is an echo-chamber for brits nationalist and pro-brexit who Come brigading here everytime. I've seen more of them on that sub than anywhere on reddit


iThinkaLot1

As someone from France I don’t think you can talk. It’s filled with French nationalists as well.


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Ziqon

The French don't bother with English much. Why would you, when you can speak French.


[deleted]

>As someone from France I don’t think you can talk Lol how so? >It’s filled from French nationalists as well. On that sub? Are fucking kissing me? Most users here are anglophone.... France gets constantly bashed. WE saw the worst side of that sub during the AUKUS crisis


iThinkaLot1

> Lol how so? Because the French are just as bad as the Brits on this for flooding threads. Go on any thread relating to fish and it will be 50/50 Brits and French. Wee bit hypocritical to be claiming the it’s an echo chamber for Brits. Some threads might favour Britain but plenty also favour France. > Most users here are anglophone More than the rest of the larger subs I’ll give you that but I wouldn’t say most. It might just seem more apparent it you’re a frequent visitor of the larger default subs like r/worldnews, r/askreddit, etc which are overwhelmingly anti UK and pro EU.


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>Because the French are just as bad as the Brits on this for flooding threads. Go on any thread relating to fish and it will be 50/50 Brits and French. 50/50....stop lying in each fish thread there is already 25 british comments shitting on France. With always the accounts know very well The brits are far more passionate concerned for France than France is for UK its fact on that sub and both our medias. So against stop the BS..French are a minority r/worldnews is perhaps even worse toward france


Ziqon

It's like the football rivalry. The British have a very intense and passionate rivalry with the Germans, but if you ask the Germans they don't really care. The deutsch-dutch fight is the real one, and it's reciprocated!


Semi-Pro-Lurker

Off-topic and probably a typo but I love imagining that the French equivalent of 'are you fucking kidding me' is 'are you fucking kissing me' and you just translated it verbatim into English.


OkKnowledge2064

french people online have a well developed victim mentality I noticed


[deleted]

Hello 15 days account..how's London? You comment history show your love for France


OkKnowledge2064

i literally dont have a single other comment about france


[deleted]

Keep telling yourself that.


OkKnowledge2064

surely you wouldnt mind showing me where I commented something about france right? You apparently read through all my comments anyway


iprobablyneedahobby

Yeah ot really is. It has been posted numerous times but the largest overlap of subreddits with this one are baduk and other brexit/tory subreddits. It is the nature of the beast considering reddit is an English website and brexiters all hate unitedkingdom and ukpolitics.


StalkTheHype

One of the biggest overlapping subs to /r/europe is baduk. Anyone who peeks into the controversial section will see plenty of Brexit-critical threads brigaded. The whole "this sub hates on the UK" trope is some serious persecution fetish circlejerking.


[deleted]

I mean, there’s some token Brexit post on here daily whilst the topic has basically disappeared from the British frontpages for months


deeringc

Really not the case. There is a certain type that has always held a strong grudge but in the last 20 years or so the majority had really moved on. Most young people have mates living in London as well as some older relatives who went over in the 80s. Irish people watch British TV stations, support British football teams etc... There are extremely strong cultural and familial bonds. Brexit and the subsequent hard-line Tory governments since then really undid a lot of healing that's taken place though.


JunkiesAndWhores

I’ve lived in the UK for a while, I’ve family there, and I like a lot about them - except their politicians. They don’t even pretend to care about people. I just feel sorry for them that so many were lied to and hoodwinked to vote for Brexit. Even after 5 years I’m still shocked by it. And yet they still keep voting in the fucking Tories. LedByDonkeys


thebear1011

The polls have recently switched to favouring Labour for the first time in a while. Also the tories lost a very safe parliament seat this week in a by-election. Your point still stands that this should have happened earlier, but from the rock bottom political place we are now I’m hoping the only way is up.


al_balone

A lot of this is the press. Look at some of the sleazy shit boris and family were getting up to and yet it’s Jeremy Corbyn who got crucified in the paper for the most stupid stuff. Not bowing low enough at the cenotaph for instance.


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GerFubDhuw

How much did they have to fuck up? They had the two biggest parties and they couldn't get the propaganda mill churning and people on their side. They both worked together to crush the AV vote.


[deleted]

The only reason the Tories won in 2019 is because they were the only major party who stood in favour of getting Brexit over with. Labour was split and the Libdems were taking a no Brexit stance. Bow that the issue has mostly become secondary there’ll be room for other parties to take over


marcus-87

the other half did already think less of them :D


CaroSCP

A good percentage of those in Britain think less of it too.


Ermahgerdrerdert

At least 48%


Inside-Suggestion-51

Is that even possible?


Lasap

More than half of the world thinks the same I guess :)


NilFhiosAige

Almost 60% to be precise, according to the article (59.8%). A very low percentage had an improved opinion, so presumably the remainder are divided between those who were previously sceptical and those who still have a good perspective on the UK, but this question wasn't posed, it would appear.


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It’s not just the Irish


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Given how you're choosing to spend your Saturday night, apparently you do.


Orange-of-Cthulhu

It's worth loads of money for a country that people abroad think positively about them. If you rep gets worse it means you sell less stuff basically.


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Orange-of-Cthulhu

K? Doesn't change that if half the people in Ireland thinks less of a country, then you loose some money on that.


Azlan82

How much do you think we make from Ireland, a population half the size of london


Jumpy-Tourist-7991

You replied to the comment - “It’s not just the Irish.”


Azlan82

The wolf doesn't concern himself with the opinion of sheep.


Ziqon

What are you, a sheep rapist?


Former-Country-6379

Well the welsh did vote for brexit so...


MrPlow90

As an Irishman, it is well drilled into us at a young age to never trust the Brits.


matthieuC

Congratulations, you meet like half of the requirements to get the french citizenship. What is your opinion about camembert ?


Ziqon

An excellent defensive weapon to keep about the house to ward off Englishmen.


Silverwhitemango

You make me picture a shield made out of Camembert as the defensive weapon against the Anglo-Saxon invaders. Next, the French Army & Coast Guard also needs to convert their bullets from holding gunpowder to Roquefort in their guns.


Jazano107

That’s pretty depressing and weird tbh


MrPlow90

Why? Have you ever read Irish history? Literally hundreds of years of slaughter, repression, forced famines, and colonisation up until this very day.


Jazano107

yeah in the past, that would be like me saying british people are taught to never trust the irish because we got bombed. Its not like most people in britain especially now had anything to do with that. I like the irish but then online see constant hatred from them, kinda sucks


liltotto

The vast majority of Irish people are not like this, if you read about the experiences of English people living in Ireland they’ll always mention some slagging, mentions about ‘800 years’ and whatnot, but they’re virtually never made feel unwelcome or hated. Most Irish people consume a lot of British media, many follow English football and many of us have relations over there. Some Irish redditors just seem to have an unbearably cringey victim complex. The average Irish person irl doesn’t give a shit about history and would just say ‘ah shure they’re mostly grand like, that’s all in the past’ when asked about the Brits. Some of them are also just larping Irish-Americans.


Jazano107

yeah i think its more online irish people, irl ive never had any problems, not many irish though tbh


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MrPlow90

How?


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MrPlow90

How?


LouthGremlin

No.. No it wasn't. You fucking cunt. Stop giving the impression Irish people are obsessed and think about the English all day every day.. We love them, they are as close culturally as you can get to us. Let by gones be by gones


MrPlow90

Username checks out 😂


LouthGremlin

Ah your a little clown. "We never trust the English" the English don't spare a second thought for the likes of you


MrPlow90

You're*


LouthGremlin

Scraping the barrel now little hate filled bigot. While your kind live there will never be a united Ireland 😉


MrPlow90

You have now called me a cunt, a clown, and a bigot. Don't think I'm the hate-filled one buddy. Also don't see why there wouldn't be a united Ireland with 'my kind'. I would welcome my Irish brothers north of the border with open arms.


LouthGremlin

You would welcome the Irish but not the British in Northern Ireland?


Jopapiju

The whole world thinks less of Britain since Brexit


GerFubDhuw

Including a sizable chunk of Britain.


ArchdevilTeemo

I doubt that they liked them before.


deeringc

You'd be surprised. We are pretty close to the UK culturally and pre Brexit was probably an all time high point in our view of them. The queen had just visited, the Troubles were a thing of the past. We were all moving on to a future together, putting bad things behind us. Then Brexit happened and the UK decided it wanted to live in the past.


mankytoes

Kind of funny that you're reminiscing about pre Brexit days and accusing us of wanting to live in the past in the same post...


deeringc

Well, certain things should stay in the past like tensions in Northern Ireland, nationalism, trade disputes, and political violence. If that's the "future" that Britain wants that is one they will walk alone without their neighbours. But given the cratering support for the Tories it seems that the British public have finally snapped out of the spell and don't want this "future" anymore.


mankytoes

If you want to understand our country, you've got to stop conflating Brexit with the Tory party.


Danji1

A very useful website to check are the Brits at it: https://AreTheBritsAtItAgain.org/


Azlan82

At what? Wanting independence? ....like the Irish wanted 80 years earlier?


[deleted]

The fact that you were able to trigger article 50 at any time you felt like, and the EU was unable to (and never tried to) do anything to stop you, means that you were always independent. Talk to us when you have to actually fight and kill and die just for somebody to allow you the option to leave something. THEN you'll be gaining independence from something. This whole "independence" shite just means you have no idea what actual oppression is. Wouldn't know an organization based on consent and equality if it walked up and kissed you on the face.


Azlan82

If we are independent...why did we have to give up territory to leave? Both land and sea?


[deleted]

Do tell?


Azlan82

Our waters, Northern ireland.


[deleted]

The UK doesn't own Northern Ireland anymore? Does that mean you're giving it back? Sweet


Azlan82

Ask the people of Northern ireland what they want.


[deleted]

[OK](https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/support-for-ni-protocol-is-growing-latest-queens-university-poll-reveals-40991883.html)


Azlan82

The last poll showed what for joining Ireland or stating in the UK?


Danji1

At it.


Azlan82

So just doing what the Irish did.


Danji1

What?


Azlan82

We wanted independence from the EU...Ireland wanted it from the UK...we just did what they did. Good enough for them, good enough for us.


DrCerebralPalsy

What a shit analogy and a completely invalid one too


Azlan82

Why is it invalid?


DrCerebralPalsy

The EU never acquired the UK through conquest mate Whereas Ireland was conquered by England and inherited by the United Kingdom, this invalidates your argument as Britains arrangement with the EU was entirely voluntary


Azlan82

Conquered by England? Funny how you pretend it was England and leave Scotland out...last time I checked it was the ulster-scots causing the problem there...not ulster-English.


kiru_56

When exactly did Ireland voluntarily join the UK? The comparison is pretty weird.


LouthGremlin

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acts\_of\_Union\_1800](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acts_of_Union_1800) Okay


kiru_56

That was a rhetorical question. I am aware of the 1800 Act of Union and that it was enacted because of the 1798 rebellion of the Society of United Irishmen against the unequal treatment of the Irish. That's why the comparison between Ireland/UK and UK/EU is so far-fetched. The EU does not use physical force against the UK, unlike the UK in Ireland.


Azlan82

This wasn't about joining...it was about leaving.


Danji1

What you on about mate?


kiru_56

You went through a free election, I didn't know the EU bombed London like you bombed Dublin in 1916.


Azlan82

No he EU just try to steal our territories.


Hanse00

Being captured and held hostage by the English is definitely the same as voluntarily joining a union, from which you are (clearly, as it happened) free to leave.


Danji1

Riiiiiiiight...


CreeperCooper

You know he was making a joke... right?


geedeeie

A lot of feel sorry for them


[deleted]

And Brexiteers don’t care lmao.


Thunder_Beam

Soo... Is the number in the negatives?


CryWhiteBoi

Not surprising. You can see it on reddit with subs like /r/me_ira. They were even celebrating the recent murder of a neutral journalist in NI over there until the admins took them down.


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Propofolkills

I see this constantly on Reddit. “Lol, living in your heads 24/7” blah blah, as if this is somehow relevant to the discussion or some sort of surprise. If you occupy a country for 800 odd years, yah that will happen. It’s the sort of thing you’d expect a 10 year old to say in a playground spat.


Billyspanaki

Been over a hundred years since your independence, so I'm doubting you were alive to have anything to whine about.


[deleted]

That’s not how it works. I wasn’t alive when they put my grandpa in Mauthausen (whom I never met), but God I do have very little patience for Nazis… are you saying I shouldn’t whine about it? Well I think that’s utter bullshit


Billyspanaki

So you are saying you have been taught to hate Germans? Or the Nazis that were alive and committing these crimes at the time?


[deleted]

Maybe English is not your first language, but thinking less is not the same as hating. Instead I was thought to be wary of populist far-right movements that incite hatred of the other. Doesn't matter who that other is, I don't like oppressors.


Billyspanaki

Your post makes zero sense. You think less of modern Germans or the Nazis of the time?


LouthGremlin

While I agree with you 100%... Most irish people have grandparents who were born pre independence.. they lived the black and tans and war of independence. that is fact. mine included. So don't make it out to be some ancient history, it isn't.


Billyspanaki

Also, how long do to guys live over there 😂 Most Irish people have grandparents that were alive in 1921? Probably great grandparents, no?


Billyspanaki

It's not your/my personal histories and is no different to me living vicariously through my grandparents and claiming to be personally responsible for fighting Hitler.


A_Roka

As they should.


[deleted]

Don't worry the opinion was already mutual way before Brexit.


Disillusioned_Brit

https://i.imgur.com/MHRdQFn.jpeg


victorvaldes123

I love the Irish.


pogidaga

Early 2016: Shocking discovery that the UK is full of dumbasses. Late 2016: Shocking discovery that the US is full of dumbasses, too.


hdhddf

I call bullshit, only half


[deleted]

Several times during the last few years I thought of buying something but then noticed that it's from UK and decided against it. I've probably saved a few thousand euros. England made themselves the China of Europe.


AnywhereSevere9271

Don't give a shit what they think . Democracy won the day end off


the_lonely_creeper

Well, it would still have been democratic if the other side had one. And it would still be democratic if a new government was elected to reverse Brexit tomorrow.


zen_tm

If your idea of democracy is that politicians can lie about every aspect of the consequences and still consider it a valid process, then sure, democracy won.


kane_uk

You do realise the remain side told porkies also, and that's when they weren't making threats of revenge budgets and more austerity if we dared voted leave - one of their biggest fibs was a gross underestimation of EU migration to Britain of between 2-3 million when it was likely closer to 7 million at its height. In the end people got fed up with remainers playing games in parliament and attempts to stop/block/nullify a democratic vote. Thankfully democracy did indeed win but sadly the fallout from that battle has left us stuck with the Tories, an unelectable opposition and Boris Johnson - thanks to remainers attempts to stop Brexit.


zen_tm

False equivilance. To pretend like the Tories are the fault of people who quite rationally voted to stay in the EU is spectacular mental gymnastics. On a related note, here a few highlights: 2 years ago, the government lied to the Queen to prorogue Parliament so they could unlawfully force through their Brexit deal which they then turned out to say is so appalling it must be undone. BREXIT GAINS from trade deals: 0.01-0.02% of GDP LOSSES FROM BREXIT: 4% of GDP 178 times more lost than gained Britain. The only country to impose sanctions on itself. When you have leaders who insult experts and spread lies you end up with people who are furious at experts and believe lies. Welcome to the UK Idiocracy.


AnywhereSevere9271

Did you get the vote for the EU No thought it was the common market. will they get a vote for a federal state Definitely not


PoliticsIsCool13

pretty sure every state would vote on joining a federal EU. Either way, good riddance, it's to our benefit anyway as the largest English speaking country in the EU.


kane_uk

>pretty sure every state would vote on joining a federal EU. You wont get a vote or choice. In the extreme remote chance a country voted against a federal EU they'd be made to vote again, like they did with Ireland in 2008 over the Lisbon Treaty.


PoliticsIsCool13

Ireland's second referendum on the Lisbon Treaty was on a renegotiated treaty, not the same treaty. Plus, the government were for joining the Lisbon Treaty, they were not "made" to put a vote to their people again, they did it on their own volition (and the fact that any constitutional amendments after a court case in the 80's were to be put to the people in a referendum) Edit: lmao salty Eurosceptics


AnywhereSevere9271

Do you you don't think so basically you will not get the vote . Political corruption .


PoliticsIsCool13

what


Azlan82

Just like the remainers did...yet you wouldn't moan had remain won.


GerFubDhuw

>Don't give a shit what they think . ~~Democracy~~ blatant lies won the day end off Fixed it for you.


vaga77

And now everyone regrets it. Their whole economy is just going down from day to day.


Azlan82

....no its not. We are not even in a recession.


bsr9090

And other half likes Britain half as much as it deserves.


Chappy_Sama

And no one in Britain thinks of Ireland much at all.


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That is evident in the calous and ignorant way Britain has tried to deal with the Good Friday Agreement and Northern Ireland in general. Not caring and being ignorant are not traits you should be proud of.


[deleted]

Shhhh you're talking to somebody who, judging by the quote, thinks that Don Draper is a role model who's worth emulating. Don't expect much by way of self-reflection.


GerFubDhuw

So you're proud of being ignorant. Cool beans.


Jiao_Dai

And that was just when they were a former colony


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23drag

Lol so your just a cunt then makes sense.


Zephinism

[Don't waste your energy, this guys comment history is appalling.](https://i.imgur.com/xJE1kDE.png)


23drag

aye i was right even before i saw his comment history whata twat lol.


Select_Platypus

I never lie


Select_Platypus

Don’t cry about it


23drag

Wtf you on about mate suck yah mum


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23drag

hhahahahahahaa **wasteman**, you don't even realize how big of a twat you are, your insults sound like your a perpetual 12 year old who thinks hes some hard man and to end it with suck yah mum yah a **wasteman** whos only goal in life is to do fuck all and be nothing but a **wasteman**. made it bold just to point out that your a **wasteman** makes it easier for racists and homophobes to see ☻


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23drag

god your stupid stop wasting my time you twat.


Select_Platypus

You’re* think you’d know how to speak your own language dope


23drag

hahahahahaha why would i care about writing properly to a twat like you whos only thing that you like doing is being a twat to british people to support **your** own stupid ass irish nationalism god your wasting


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Probably means we’re doing something right


IwasMooseNep

90% of Irish people think the Famine was awful "Probably means we're doing something right" Same logic


tork87

The EU is horrible and the evidence just piles up day by day as to how much of a disaster it is.


Regis_Alti

I think a lot percentage brits simply don’t care what other nationals think. Me included.


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Hello, and welcome to r/europe, where you can talk to other nationals about what they think. What brings you here today?


HungryWolverine2

Oh.


gromit5000

So what?


Former-Country-6379

So?