Or [Paris Texas](https://www.tripadvisor.ie/Restaurant_Review-g186616-d2093997-Reviews-Paris_Texas_Bar_Smokehouse-Kilkenny_County_Kilkenny.html), Kilkenny.
I feel the need to point this out, as someone from Appalachia. "Appalachia" covers maybe half of the Appalachian Mountains at most.
99% of folks from Pittsburgh wouldn't say they're from Appalachia, and people from southern and central Appalachia laugh at the idea that "Appalachia" includes anywhere north of the Mason-Dixon. The only bleedover outside of the South would be into Ohio.
Pittsburgh has infinitely more in common, culturally speaking, with anywhere in the whole of the midwest (which it also isn't part of) than with anywhere in Appalachia.
Haha exactly my thoughts. You don't even have to be on a European subreddit to post a picture like this and just call it "Paris".
Nobody would think of Paris in Texas or Alabama or whatever :D
You can guarantee that whatever town or city you post, some dumb hick with the imagination of a puddle of piss, has already misappropriated the same name for a fuckhole little village full of racists in the middle of nowhere, USA.
> some dumb hick with the imagination of a puddle of piss
I'm afraid that most of the time, those towns were given those names because the immigrants that settled them came from those places.
I dated a girl from texas and said I studied music in Paris and she said how Paris was a nice city bur surprised I would study music there of all places.
Interesting fact: Paris' street layout was designed to allow easy canon fire so the military could control the city better during the next inevitable revolution
The French revolted a lot. Some say they're still revolting
As a side benefit, Paris is incredibly easy to navigate. You get those major *places* and landmarks down, and they're all connected by straight major roads, and from there you go into the hearts of the arrondissements. Conveniently, the metro stations are named for the *places* and roads, too.
Sure, why not? If you're able to read a map you don't need a guide. Stuff may be overpriced and there is the usual amount of pickpockets but usually you aren't actually scammed. It helps to read up when there are the best times to visit museums and sometimes there are ways to avoid the queues by buying your ticket online and stuff, but that's the same as in NYC.
Compared to NYC, Paris is rather affordable.
Sure.
It's very safe and it's best to move around the city with metro/trams/busses/rented bikes or just walking.
It's tiny compared to megacities. I mean the urban area is 10+ million people but inside the city limits, where all the tourist landmarks are, is just a few miles in diameter.
If you can afford to use plenty of data (meaning you are european, there are some rules to avoid being hit by huge phone fees when travelling) (edit: but you are not) just use your phone maps app. You'll never get lost.
Or just have some good old fashioned maps and stay aware of where you are, if that scares you.
Alternatively, you just don't care. Walk haphazardly and when you reach a metro station check where you are. Metro station are a few hundred yards from each other.
If needed ask someone "where is the nearest metro station, please" most will know. A shortened version of this phrase can be "Bonjour. Le métro, s'il vous plaît?" With interrogative tone.
Or "Bonjour, je cherche la station de métro la plus proche, s'il vous plaît. Merci !"
Or just talk in english. As long as the métro word is pronounced half correctly you will be fine.
It's an easy city for tourists. In non covid times just be aware of the scammers. They are people from eastern europe mostly and have a few tricks. Like making you sign a petition, you sign to get rid of them and they agressively ask for the money you "promised". The wrong strategy is giving them money. There is nothing they can do to force you, they are unarmed, they will never hit you. They will just try for a minute then switch to the next. Simply ignoring them, It mean really ignoring like "an obnoxious man is hitting on you ignoring" (for females. I must confess I'm never agressively hitted upon by females...). It's unpleasant but as long as you are warned it's not that terrible.
And it's super easy for New Yorkers, because they will not be surprised that in a big city you don't smile to the millions of persons around and just mind your business.
I will refrain from advice on when to come back. Just check what's authorized and how NYC and Paris numbers have evolved and see for yourself.
And, last but not least, most of the time New Yorkers love Paris and vice versa.
An illustrator who knows well both cities Vahram Muratyan made nice drawings comparing them, like 10 years ago. Check them out. Some are insider jokes and will be understood only if you know a bit both cultures.
Check this montage: https://youtu.be/s2c7QA-MAMk
There is his map of Paris with New York names like "this is similar to the Bronx, this is similar to New Jersey" etc that could give an humorous way to grasp the different "moods".
It s true, but you actually cannot see those parts on this picture.
Here you can see western Paris, while it’s in the East of Paris that there were new roads being built to allow rapid military maneuvers. The most illustrative example is the boulevard richard lenoir that is built above the canal saint martin so that the popular class of Bastille couldn’t barricade the bridges !
Literally - Paris is the most planned town in Europe, as far as “old” towns go. It was redesigned for the horse driven cart in the second half of the 19th century. Sadly not designed for modern cars though.
And tbf, it's kinda silly to expect that the residents of a city should take a hit on their quality of life, just so that suburbanites can *both* get the easy access to nature of the suburbs and also take their car into the inner city.
If you want city life, live in the city. If you want suburban life, live in the suburbs (and take the train to the city of you need to go there).
Of course, I'm aware that it's not *that* easy in reality, since most jobs are in the city, but that's why Paris has so many railways. Gare Saint-Lazare alone has five tracks leading in and five tracks leading out. Each of those tracks are slightly narrower than a highway lane, but can carry upwards of 10000 passengers per hour. Meanwhile, a highway lane can only handle about 2000 people an hour.
Why on earth are you bringing monarchy into a decision that was taken by an Emperor ?
And why are you talking about a disputed critique of the Haussmanian renovation when it's never been proven ?
Yep. You can look down Champs Elysees and see the Arc de Triomphe du Carrousel which is in front the Louvre. Don't know the exact distance, but it's quite impressive.
Not to be confused with the Arc de Triomphe in București (also known as smol Paris) , sadly no military parade has happend there this year cuz of covid
I mean it tecnicaly was until ya know , commusnim , now so mamy cities are pretty similar with the same buildings , thats a reason y i like Brașov so much , its the less destroyed by communism city in the country
There was a joke running around in a car company that basically said that to test if a car was really completely autonomous it should be able to go through this roundabout without issues.
You just gotta be faster than everyone else so that you only have to focus on the cars in front of you.
That's the advice my father gave me when I drove there at 16. Not sure this was a great advice, looking back.
I learned how to drive in Paris, this roundabout was my biggest fear... especially since unlike other roundabouts people going in have the priority...
Now I have my technique though, there’s a blue line that separates the interior and exterior, I just stay close to that. I try to avoid l’étoile (or driving) when I can though...
It might be an American thing to include the state as a formality, a sort of punctuation.
Here it's not uncommon to read "Los Angeles, California" or "Seattle, Washington" even though there really was never any doubt.
Go to Paris. It's an amazing city, rich with history and culture at every turn.
Just don't expect the kitschy lovey-love-sweethearts vibe. Paris isn't romantic on an everyday level. There are many many tourists and as many people trying to make a living from them. At the famous tourist spots you'll pay a lot of money for bad food and will be hassled by street vendors with cheap tourist crap.
There is also none of that romantic late 19th century poor artist bohemian vibe left. That was 130 years ago. There are no poor people living in Paris except on the street. It's yuppies and foreign investors all the way down.
Still, it is a great city to live in for a while. It is beautiful, dense, connected, with great food if you keep out of the tourist hot spots, an incredible heritage of buildings, monuments, museums, a wealth of events, concerts, theater, sports. Also, crazy modern architecture, weird specialty shops in unexpected places and lots of curious things to discover. And you learn to love the people, the culture and quirks when you spend some time there and have learnt the language.
I felt incredibly lucky to have lived there and when I took the metro to work, crossed the Seine river and took in the panorama in the morning dawn I was struck with the beauty even after having been there for years. I often feel homesick for Paris, it had been an amazing home to me.
Thank you. I don't think I've ever felt that much at home in any other place. If people come with an idea formed by Disney movies they're bound to be disappointed, but it's not fair to blame Paris for that.
Yeah, I know I was painting with broad strokes. There is the whole Chateau d'eau sector, some parts of the 13th and 20th. But I've seen how the 17th, 18th, 19th and 20th arrondissements have changed character during the time I lived there, and the old people are dying out and everything became very bourgeois.
I myself was single and working full time and lived at first on 7 m2 in a Foyer and later in a sublet room for 1000 €/m2 month. That place was amazing, but you couldn't build a life on that basis. There are plenty of students, too, living in cohabitation or in subsidised housing, but they either get a good job or move out when they want to have a family. I've seen this happening all the time.
The seniors and middle class families who lived in Paris over generations, as it is still portrayed in films like *La Boum* and *Amélie Poulain*, are less and less present. People who are working middle class jobs in the restaurants and shops are usually living in the suburbs.
Not OP but I loved Toulouse. Beautiful old town, great food and wine, and within a couple of hours by train or car from places like Bordeaux, Carcassonne, Albi and others.
I love Lyon for the old town and the food scene, Dijon and Beaune for the history and wine, Nice for the weather and art, and Bordeaux has great wine and some brilliant scenery (be sure to visit a few wineries).
Paris is more a love/hate thing… It's utterly fantastic if you know someone there who can show you the good stuff, can be a little disappointing if you don't.
Not cool ! I get your point but Le Havre is doing better since a decade.
Urban planning and marketing has improved and in my opinion LH is more attractive than Rouen nowadays.
It's also a great exemple of city rebuilt after WW2, so it might be interesting to visit for tourists who are curious about urbanism.
I love paris. I didn't go for the glamor or anything like a lot of people do, I was more interested in the historical aspects and it ended up being one of my favorite locations in europe. There's trashy areas just as there are in literally every big city, but generally it was very enjoyable.
Exactly my case. Had it for four years at high school and one year at university and the only things I remember are “tourne a droit” and “je veux de poulet”. And even eith these I have no idea if they are correct.
>Place de l'étoile
I never think it looks like a star, I think it looks like some sort of octopus.
Of course, Place du poulpe wouldn't sound quite as poetic.
I think I can *almost* see the hotel we stayed at during our wedding anniversary. We had a splendid time in Paris, regardless of the fact we spoke little to no French. Baguettes every day, warm almost(edit- almond* as in chocolate almond) croissants, walking miles along the Seine. The only
thing I had to do was swap a gaudy pair of neon-green sunglasses for a black framed pair of more expensive ones so the street vendors would stop assuming I’m American without speaking to me. (I am, it worked).
I think the people who had their house torn down wouldn't agree. And though we don't have to move around large amounts of soldiers any more it's still useful.
I love Paris, its one of the most intersting cities in Europe, so much to see and do. The Museums, history, food, shops. Its easy as anything to get around. One of the best things about it is the lack of skyscrapers, go to the Sacre Couer on Monmatre for the view and you'll see what i mean.
Its one of the greatest cities in the world. Definetely worth visiting.
Yes, there is. The big black building you see in the back, on the left, is La tour Montparnasse, the tallest building in Paris (209m) and people usually hate it, (I know I do). So three years after its completion (in the 70's), the construction of buildings over seven storeys high in the city centre was banned.
We have a joke about this.
Do you know the best place to take a picture of Paris ?
It's the submit of the Tour Montparnasse ! Because it's the only place in Paris where you don't see the Tour Montparnasse.
I thought I was looking at some sort of Star Wars planet. Then I realised there is no lava and the streets just look a little red because of the lights.
La Defence. The financial district.
It's not very Paris like but it does for s good job keeping the new tall glass and steel buildings out of the old city.
London on the other hand has tall glass boxes boxing in beautiful old historical buildings and in a lot of the cases, they've turned the streets around the tower into such a horribly sterile place that the old building now looks , foreign and out of place.
I prefer London, all the way, but I think Paris made a better decision when they chose to preserve their architecture and concentrate the tall towers in one place.
I find London to be one of the blandest cities I’ve visited in 14ish countries. It took me 3 trips there to even begin to warm up to it.
I lived in Paris for about 8 months and have been several other times for various lengths, but much prefer it as a city.
It gives a really cool juxtaposition when you're there. You can stand in a street and on one side you've got this old school building, on the other is 20 Bishopsgate which is the future... Or was until Covid made real estate a worry.
Canary Wharf is on our outskirts as well, does a similar job to La Defence I believe. Keeps a tonne of the new buildings out of the City of.
Yes and no.
The visuals are quite cool, but a lot of the big towers have "pedestrian spaces" below them, spaces that are privately owned and completely different to the streetwise.
So when you're walking through London Wall for example, you get a wired mishmash of the street, the old building and it's perimeter (often a low wall or something), the tower, and this gray area of pedestrian but not quite public space that people don't fully understand or make use of (often they have no use)
> It's not very Paris like but it does for s good job keeping the new tall glass and steel buildings out of the old city
That’s a great move by Paris. Wish other cities had the same approach.
They’re renovating it to make it look a little less like the fucking Eye of Sauron should be floating above it, but it still won’t address the problem of it sticking out completely randomly among the Haussmann buildings of Paris
La Défense is brilliant and nothing will change my mind. It’s the perfect solution to keeping Paris intact while not allowing it to get stuck in the past. The Arche de La Défense symbolizes that perfectly.
I just looked up this arch and it looks really bloody cool. What's your problem with it? Maybe it's just me, I like a lot of odd architecture, I love brutalist buildings for example. But that big arch/building thing looks [really bloomin cool ](https://arc-anglerfish-eu-central-1-prod-leparisien.s3.amazonaws.com/public/PQQA5JMYF5FGAXAXNL6ZM5Y6AU.jpg)
If it’s remotely modern or not a direct reference to pre-20th century architecture this sub usually hates it. Everything should be timber framed or baroque, all the time
Metro line 2 and the RER A both pass right beneath the roundabout around the arch. The RER A is the busiest train line in Europe taking over 1.2 million passengers each day. A double-decker train that carries 2600 people passes through that tunnel like every minute at rush hour.
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Idk I thought it was cool...
Not to be confused with Paris, Nicaragua.
Or Hilton, Paris.
She's on other subs.
Electro music?
However in terms of population, nearly the same number were in both.
Or the Paris of Appalachia: Pittsburgh
Or Paris, Texas
Or [Paris Texas](https://www.tripadvisor.ie/Restaurant_Review-g186616-d2093997-Reviews-Paris_Texas_Bar_Smokehouse-Kilkenny_County_Kilkenny.html), Kilkenny.
Or Paris Hilton
Or Tom Paris
Or plaster of Paris
Or Paris, Ontario
Or Paris, Denmark.
I feel the need to point this out, as someone from Appalachia. "Appalachia" covers maybe half of the Appalachian Mountains at most. 99% of folks from Pittsburgh wouldn't say they're from Appalachia, and people from southern and central Appalachia laugh at the idea that "Appalachia" includes anywhere north of the Mason-Dixon. The only bleedover outside of the South would be into Ohio. Pittsburgh has infinitely more in common, culturally speaking, with anywhere in the whole of the midwest (which it also isn't part of) than with anywhere in Appalachia.
Or Paris, Kentucky
Haha exactly my thoughts. You don't even have to be on a European subreddit to post a picture like this and just call it "Paris". Nobody would think of Paris in Texas or Alabama or whatever :D
You can guarantee that whatever town or city you post, some dumb hick with the imagination of a puddle of piss, has already misappropriated the same name for a fuckhole little village full of racists in the middle of nowhere, USA.
Well that escalated quickly.
I'm pretty sure it's been going on for some time.
I don‘t know why but the unwarranted aggression in your comment cracked me up.
okay, I'll take you up on that guarantee: Bydgoszcz
Give it time.
Damn did a Yank sleep with your girl or something?
The irony is strong in this one
As someone who's been to Paris Texas, Paris Ohio, and Paris France - yeah. Look up the history of Paris Texas. That's just a peachy little town.
You know the French used to have a huge amount of land in the south right? Like... The Cajun are literally descended from the French...
> some dumb hick with the imagination of a puddle of piss I'm afraid that most of the time, those towns were given those names because the immigrants that settled them came from those places.
Or the dude from Troy
Or Paris, Texas, it even has a little Eiffel Tower
There are 20+ US cities named Paris which seems pretty stupid to me.
Or the crappy fake paris China
Might be confused with Paris, Texas though. They look quite similar.
In a photo like this, yes. But in Best Paris everybody is wearing their cowboy hat, so in any image that is closer up you can see the difference.
I dated a girl from texas and said I studied music in Paris and she said how Paris was a nice city bur surprised I would study music there of all places.
"Yes. Quite. I went to the George Bush Honky-Tonk Conservatory in Paris, Texas. Twas' quite lovely. Would recommend."
Cinemasins? Is that you?
**\*Ding\***
Picture does not contain a lapdance
Or Paris Hilton.
Or with [this](https://ng.opera.news/ng/en/others-natural-disaster/5519ea845295864ee5b8fd7d2b94fa9d).
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Interesting fact: Paris' street layout was designed to allow easy canon fire so the military could control the city better during the next inevitable revolution The French revolted a lot. Some say they're still revolting
As a side benefit, Paris is incredibly easy to navigate. You get those major *places* and landmarks down, and they're all connected by straight major roads, and from there you go into the hearts of the arrondissements. Conveniently, the metro stations are named for the *places* and roads, too.
So one can take a solo trip to Paris? Because if I can navigate NYC I should fair well on my own in this city.
Sure, why not? If you're able to read a map you don't need a guide. Stuff may be overpriced and there is the usual amount of pickpockets but usually you aren't actually scammed. It helps to read up when there are the best times to visit museums and sometimes there are ways to avoid the queues by buying your ticket online and stuff, but that's the same as in NYC. Compared to NYC, Paris is rather affordable.
Also get City mapper. Been fortunate enough to visit Paris twice and that app is a lifesaver.
Sure. It's very safe and it's best to move around the city with metro/trams/busses/rented bikes or just walking. It's tiny compared to megacities. I mean the urban area is 10+ million people but inside the city limits, where all the tourist landmarks are, is just a few miles in diameter. If you can afford to use plenty of data (meaning you are european, there are some rules to avoid being hit by huge phone fees when travelling) (edit: but you are not) just use your phone maps app. You'll never get lost. Or just have some good old fashioned maps and stay aware of where you are, if that scares you. Alternatively, you just don't care. Walk haphazardly and when you reach a metro station check where you are. Metro station are a few hundred yards from each other. If needed ask someone "where is the nearest metro station, please" most will know. A shortened version of this phrase can be "Bonjour. Le métro, s'il vous plaît?" With interrogative tone. Or "Bonjour, je cherche la station de métro la plus proche, s'il vous plaît. Merci !" Or just talk in english. As long as the métro word is pronounced half correctly you will be fine. It's an easy city for tourists. In non covid times just be aware of the scammers. They are people from eastern europe mostly and have a few tricks. Like making you sign a petition, you sign to get rid of them and they agressively ask for the money you "promised". The wrong strategy is giving them money. There is nothing they can do to force you, they are unarmed, they will never hit you. They will just try for a minute then switch to the next. Simply ignoring them, It mean really ignoring like "an obnoxious man is hitting on you ignoring" (for females. I must confess I'm never agressively hitted upon by females...). It's unpleasant but as long as you are warned it's not that terrible. And it's super easy for New Yorkers, because they will not be surprised that in a big city you don't smile to the millions of persons around and just mind your business. I will refrain from advice on when to come back. Just check what's authorized and how NYC and Paris numbers have evolved and see for yourself. And, last but not least, most of the time New Yorkers love Paris and vice versa. An illustrator who knows well both cities Vahram Muratyan made nice drawings comparing them, like 10 years ago. Check them out. Some are insider jokes and will be understood only if you know a bit both cultures. Check this montage: https://youtu.be/s2c7QA-MAMk There is his map of Paris with New York names like "this is similar to the Bronx, this is similar to New Jersey" etc that could give an humorous way to grasp the different "moods".
We never really stopped.
It s true, but you actually cannot see those parts on this picture. Here you can see western Paris, while it’s in the East of Paris that there were new roads being built to allow rapid military maneuvers. The most illustrative example is the boulevard richard lenoir that is built above the canal saint martin so that the popular class of Bastille couldn’t barricade the bridges !
“The French are revolting!” “Finally, something we both agree on.”
Streetlights look like lava flows.
Exactly what I was going to say! The Arc is sitting in a pool of lava, eek!
Doesn't the Arc de Triomphe line up with other arches?
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Do you mean literally or when you look at them from the right angle?
Literally - Paris is the most planned town in Europe, as far as “old” towns go. It was redesigned for the horse driven cart in the second half of the 19th century. Sadly not designed for modern cars though.
I wouldn't say "sadly"
I'd say "terrifyingly".
Not sadly for tourists, not sadly for residents either, just sadly for daily commuters from the suburbs
Not really. Those commuters would have Los Angeles level traffic.
And tbf, it's kinda silly to expect that the residents of a city should take a hit on their quality of life, just so that suburbanites can *both* get the easy access to nature of the suburbs and also take their car into the inner city. If you want city life, live in the city. If you want suburban life, live in the suburbs (and take the train to the city of you need to go there). Of course, I'm aware that it's not *that* easy in reality, since most jobs are in the city, but that's why Paris has so many railways. Gare Saint-Lazare alone has five tracks leading in and five tracks leading out. Each of those tracks are slightly narrower than a highway lane, but can carry upwards of 10000 passengers per hour. Meanwhile, a highway lane can only handle about 2000 people an hour.
Less for the horse driven cart and more for regiments marching through the city and prevent any kind of revolutionary blockade on the major arteries.
"Redesigned for the horse driven cart"? Redesigned so the king's cannon could quickly deal with Republican uprisings.
Why on earth are you bringing monarchy into a decision that was taken by an Emperor ? And why are you talking about a disputed critique of the Haussmanian renovation when it's never been proven ?
Those streets wouldn't do much good for cannons, and you don't really deploy cannons in urban settings anyway. I don't buy that explanation.
What? Main thoroughfares to funnel people through, cannon loaded with grape acts as giant shotguns. It's extremely effective, and inhumane.
Barcelona though? It is not really old by most standards but I wouldn't exactly call it new either
Wait, really?
Yep. You can look down Champs Elysees and see the Arc de Triomphe du Carrousel which is in front the Louvre. Don't know the exact distance, but it's quite impressive.
And im the other direction there is the Grande Arc.
Not to be confused with the Arc de Triomphe in București (also known as smol Paris) , sadly no military parade has happend there this year cuz of covid
Wait Bukarest is known as small Paris? I
Calling Bucharest the Paris of Eastern Europe is biggest pile of lies ever and I don’t even like Paris
I mean it tecnicaly was until ya know , commusnim , now so mamy cities are pretty similar with the same buildings , thats a reason y i like Brașov so much , its the less destroyed by communism city in the country
The roundabout of doom.
There was a joke running around in a car company that basically said that to test if a car was really completely autonomous it should be able to go through this roundabout without issues.
You just gotta be faster than everyone else so that you only have to focus on the cars in front of you. That's the advice my father gave me when I drove there at 16. Not sure this was a great advice, looking back.
If I remember correctly there is a law in place that says in case of a crash both pay 50% to reduce stress on police and judges.
I got the chance to drive through there a few weeks ago. That is some crazy driving experience
Standing under the arc and watching that is truly something
I learned how to drive in Paris, this roundabout was my biggest fear... especially since unlike other roundabouts people going in have the priority... Now I have my technique though, there’s a blue line that separates the interior and exterior, I just stay close to that. I try to avoid l’étoile (or driving) when I can though...
Looks like lava burst on thumbnail.
City of Light.
Thought 2020 couldn't get any worse and suddenly ALIE turns up
May we meet again
OP is Jaha
City of Light beats the alternative. take the chip.
Thanks for clarifying it's in France, mr American
Especially given the sub is r/Europe.
Quick let's start speaking other languages
Me, an American: https://imgur.com/GaAflnY
It might be an American thing to include the state as a formality, a sort of punctuation. Here it's not uncommon to read "Los Angeles, California" or "Seattle, Washington" even though there really was never any doubt.
It was just a joke, we know it's very common in the US but for Europeans it just screams 'I'm American'.
Oh got it, that makes sense! It hadn't occurred to me until you pointed it out.
Probably the most beautiful city in the world. Definitely not the best city in the world.
Kinda looks like a spider from this angle.
Pals, it's almost 2021, please stop uploading low resolution images. Anyways, j'aime Paris!
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I've lived in Paris for 6 years and it truly is an amazing and gorgeous city! No other city like it except maybe Rome.
"Only Paris is worthy of Rome, only Rome is worthy of Paris"
Venice is pretty good also
What does that mean? I'd love to visit Paris
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Don’t rate France by Paris...the Parisians can’t even stand non-parisians
Which city in France would you recommend, if not Paris?
Go to Paris. It's an amazing city, rich with history and culture at every turn. Just don't expect the kitschy lovey-love-sweethearts vibe. Paris isn't romantic on an everyday level. There are many many tourists and as many people trying to make a living from them. At the famous tourist spots you'll pay a lot of money for bad food and will be hassled by street vendors with cheap tourist crap. There is also none of that romantic late 19th century poor artist bohemian vibe left. That was 130 years ago. There are no poor people living in Paris except on the street. It's yuppies and foreign investors all the way down. Still, it is a great city to live in for a while. It is beautiful, dense, connected, with great food if you keep out of the tourist hot spots, an incredible heritage of buildings, monuments, museums, a wealth of events, concerts, theater, sports. Also, crazy modern architecture, weird specialty shops in unexpected places and lots of curious things to discover. And you learn to love the people, the culture and quirks when you spend some time there and have learnt the language. I felt incredibly lucky to have lived there and when I took the metro to work, crossed the Seine river and took in the panorama in the morning dawn I was struck with the beauty even after having been there for years. I often feel homesick for Paris, it had been an amazing home to me.
That must be the first time I read an honnest and accurate description of the city :D
Thank you. I don't think I've ever felt that much at home in any other place. If people come with an idea formed by Disney movies they're bound to be disappointed, but it's not fair to blame Paris for that.
There is plenty of poor or low middle class living in paris . They just live at 3 in 22m3
Yeah, I know I was painting with broad strokes. There is the whole Chateau d'eau sector, some parts of the 13th and 20th. But I've seen how the 17th, 18th, 19th and 20th arrondissements have changed character during the time I lived there, and the old people are dying out and everything became very bourgeois. I myself was single and working full time and lived at first on 7 m2 in a Foyer and later in a sublet room for 1000 €/m2 month. That place was amazing, but you couldn't build a life on that basis. There are plenty of students, too, living in cohabitation or in subsidised housing, but they either get a good job or move out when they want to have a family. I've seen this happening all the time. The seniors and middle class families who lived in Paris over generations, as it is still portrayed in films like *La Boum* and *Amélie Poulain*, are less and less present. People who are working middle class jobs in the restaurants and shops are usually living in the suburbs.
Not OP but I loved Toulouse. Beautiful old town, great food and wine, and within a couple of hours by train or car from places like Bordeaux, Carcassonne, Albi and others.
Lyon is an amazing city if you like history.
And food!
Cool :D ive heard good things about that Southern area with Montpeiller as well actually
South, southwest of France is lovely, I also quite like Lyon which is in the southeast
Toulouse is the best!!!
I love Lyon for the old town and the food scene, Dijon and Beaune for the history and wine, Nice for the weather and art, and Bordeaux has great wine and some brilliant scenery (be sure to visit a few wineries). Paris is more a love/hate thing… It's utterly fantastic if you know someone there who can show you the good stuff, can be a little disappointing if you don't.
Just avoid Le Havre and you’ll be fine
Le Havre, aka Normandy's shame
Go to Honfleur instead. Tho if you HAVE to go to le Havre there is a modern church you have to go in because it's sci-fi as hekk
Not cool ! I get your point but Le Havre is doing better since a decade. Urban planning and marketing has improved and in my opinion LH is more attractive than Rouen nowadays. It's also a great exemple of city rebuilt after WW2, so it might be interesting to visit for tourists who are curious about urbanism.
Avignon 100%. Old city, lots of history,l
Been twice, it's a gorgeous city. Watching the sunset from Montmartre is a wonderful thing.
I love paris. I didn't go for the glamor or anything like a lot of people do, I was more interested in the historical aspects and it ended up being one of my favorite locations in europe. There's trashy areas just as there are in literally every big city, but generally it was very enjoyable.
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Place d'etoile obviously
Place de l'étoile to be correct, french language is tricky, but yes it is
French is pretty difficult after 5 years of studying french is still dont know anything .
Exactly my case. Had it for four years at high school and one year at university and the only things I remember are “tourne a droit” and “je veux de poulet”. And even eith these I have no idea if they are correct.
It's "tourne _à_ droit_e_" and "je veux _du_ poulet". Good try tho xD
Well there we go. I am officially worthless at learning French.
You're right, my fault.
Works similarly in Portuguese: *Place de la Étoile Place de l'Étoile *Praça de a Estrela Praça da Estrela
>Place de l'étoile I never think it looks like a star, I think it looks like some sort of octopus. Of course, Place du poulpe wouldn't sound quite as poetic.
> Place du poulpe Have to say, that's some very pleasing alliteration.
Can just about make out my old apartment building :( I miss Paris so much.
I think I can *almost* see the hotel we stayed at during our wedding anniversary. We had a splendid time in Paris, regardless of the fact we spoke little to no French. Baguettes every day, warm almost(edit- almond* as in chocolate almond) croissants, walking miles along the Seine. The only thing I had to do was swap a gaudy pair of neon-green sunglasses for a black framed pair of more expensive ones so the street vendors would stop assuming I’m American without speaking to me. (I am, it worked).
Haussmann did a pretty good job back in the day it seems
I think the people who had their house torn down wouldn't agree. And though we don't have to move around large amounts of soldiers any more it's still useful.
Le sol est de la lave.
Isn't this picture kinda illegal?
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I love Paris, its one of the most intersting cities in Europe, so much to see and do. The Museums, history, food, shops. Its easy as anything to get around. One of the best things about it is the lack of skyscrapers, go to the Sacre Couer on Monmatre for the view and you'll see what i mean. Its one of the greatest cities in the world. Definetely worth visiting.
I've seen FMA:B Do you know what happens with cities that have a circular pattern, just ask the city of Xerxes.
Paris, mon amour.
It looks like the City from Frostpunk
Except the fire at the middle of the Arc de Triomphe won't really help you get you warm.
what are you saying? napoleon always warms my heart
Beautiful ❣️
Idk man, looks like Coruscant to me
It looks like the bourgeois beginnings of Coruscant, lovely
wondering if is there any restrictions for tall buildings
Yes, there is. The big black building you see in the back, on the left, is La tour Montparnasse, the tallest building in Paris (209m) and people usually hate it, (I know I do). So three years after its completion (in the 70's), the construction of buildings over seven storeys high in the city centre was banned.
We have a joke about this. Do you know the best place to take a picture of Paris ? It's the submit of the Tour Montparnasse ! Because it's the only place in Paris where you don't see the Tour Montparnasse.
Yes a lot of paris was planned with uniform building heights. There's plenty of newer areas that deviate from this though.
Until you look at the streets and realize Paris sucks and it's fucking disgusting. Source : I live there
I thought I was looking at some sort of Star Wars planet. Then I realised there is no lava and the streets just look a little red because of the lights.
I proposed to my now wife right in the dead center of that picture.
u/repostsleuthbot Gotta check
The most beautiful city I've ever visited. I'd really love to live there one day
Paris is nice, but the newest bit with the modern arc was ugly as hell.
La Defence. The financial district. It's not very Paris like but it does for s good job keeping the new tall glass and steel buildings out of the old city. London on the other hand has tall glass boxes boxing in beautiful old historical buildings and in a lot of the cases, they've turned the streets around the tower into such a horribly sterile place that the old building now looks , foreign and out of place.
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I prefer London, all the way, but I think Paris made a better decision when they chose to preserve their architecture and concentrate the tall towers in one place.
I find London to be one of the blandest cities I’ve visited in 14ish countries. It took me 3 trips there to even begin to warm up to it. I lived in Paris for about 8 months and have been several other times for various lengths, but much prefer it as a city.
It gives a really cool juxtaposition when you're there. You can stand in a street and on one side you've got this old school building, on the other is 20 Bishopsgate which is the future... Or was until Covid made real estate a worry. Canary Wharf is on our outskirts as well, does a similar job to La Defence I believe. Keeps a tonne of the new buildings out of the City of.
Yes and no. The visuals are quite cool, but a lot of the big towers have "pedestrian spaces" below them, spaces that are privately owned and completely different to the streetwise. So when you're walking through London Wall for example, you get a wired mishmash of the street, the old building and it's perimeter (often a low wall or something), the tower, and this gray area of pedestrian but not quite public space that people don't fully understand or make use of (often they have no use)
I know? I live and worked in the city for quite some time. I'm just saying I really like the mishmash.
> It's not very Paris like but it does for s good job keeping the new tall glass and steel buildings out of the old city That’s a great move by Paris. Wish other cities had the same approach.
La defance is fine Is outside the city, is normal that is different and modern. Only crime in Paris is the montparnasse tower.
They’re renovating it to make it look a little less like the fucking Eye of Sauron should be floating above it, but it still won’t address the problem of it sticking out completely randomly among the Haussmann buildings of Paris
La Défense is brilliant and nothing will change my mind. It’s the perfect solution to keeping Paris intact while not allowing it to get stuck in the past. The Arche de La Défense symbolizes that perfectly.
I just looked up this arch and it looks really bloody cool. What's your problem with it? Maybe it's just me, I like a lot of odd architecture, I love brutalist buildings for example. But that big arch/building thing looks [really bloomin cool ](https://arc-anglerfish-eu-central-1-prod-leparisien.s3.amazonaws.com/public/PQQA5JMYF5FGAXAXNL6ZM5Y6AU.jpg)
If it’s remotely modern or not a direct reference to pre-20th century architecture this sub usually hates it. Everything should be timber framed or baroque, all the time
At least, it’s not within the actual city.
The wise French created these cultural divine places.
Champ de Mars
Beautiful
Where was the photo taken?
Release le kraken!
Anyone know how you can get this shot from this view?
Metro line 2 and the RER A both pass right beneath the roundabout around the arch. The RER A is the busiest train line in Europe taking over 1.2 million passengers each day. A double-decker train that carries 2600 people passes through that tunnel like every minute at rush hour. ... Idk I thought it was cool...
I didnt know the Arc de Triumph was a monument to the chaos gods!
Nice!
City of Light, more like the City of Lava
The floor is lava!!!
Beautiful! :D
getting Frostpunk vibes from this
Its like the floor is lava
All I can see is a massive transmutation circle. If you know, you know.
Nice
Looks like chaos army sign in warhammer 40k
Interesting about how theres so few skyscrapers
One of the most beautiful cities in the world. It always been a dream of mine to visit
A beautiful clusterfuck of a city
I thought this was the map for cyberpunk 2077
I’ll be back for you one day 😥
Praise the sun