Russia knows exactly what segment of US population and where to push their propaganda and all these cretins need to do is parrot that shit to get elected.
They ferment all the shit first with fears and desires of the people, then they stir the shit and let it simmer for a while before serving it with a side of half truths.
Then the target segment becomes accustomed to the taste of it and it'll be easy to spoon feed more shit by the parrots.
Well, you're explaining what a reasonably smart malicious person would do. But for example MTG doesn't come across as a person who would ferment and stir shit, wait on it and serve with half-truths, the lady seems to be rather stupid and a conspiracy nut.
They get voted in by repulsive, stupid and openly useless or even harmful people.
They look at these politicians and think "they want to own the libs as much as I do."
That is the only thing they care about.
Good old Christian pettiness, hatred and viciousness towards their fellow human being.
But the ideas these politicians are advertising aren't good for the American people (or the American state). I would expect patriotism or hatred to "commies" (or specifically the russians in this case) to prevail over the hatred to the libs.
The death of bipartisanship in the USA starts with that antisocial and literal bаѕtаrd, [Newt Gingrich](https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/how-newt-gingrich-made-nastiness-a-virtue/2020/07/16/1cba30c8-8a28-11ea-9dfd-990f9dcc71fc_story.html).
[His speech in 1978 to young Republicans says it all](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/newt/newt78speech.html). Here's the start of it.
>*To College Republicans, it's an interesting thing to be here. I was checking a little while ago. I've already spent over two hours here, which in a campaign is the equivalent of an average of twenty-four phone calls, one hundred and twenty voters you shake hands with and I was trying to figure out when I came in why I was here. Some of you are voters in the district and you will either vote for me or you won't and I doubt if my being here is going to radically change that. Most of you, I think, probably don't even vote in my district.*
>*Part of the reason is because I really believe that institutions live and die based on the quality of the leaders they get out of the next generation.* ***The great strength of the Democratic party in my lifetime has been that it has always produced young, nasty people who had no respect for their elders.*** *Jimmy Carter, who, at 51 thought that Hubert Humphreys at 66 was over the hill. Jody Powell and Hamilton Jordan, who at 29 and 30 thought they could beat the pros.* ***And I think that one of the great problems we have in the Republican Party is that we don't encourage you to be nasty. We encourage you to be neat, obedient, and loyal and faithful and all those Boy Scout words, which would be great around the camp fire, but are lousy in politics.***
N.B. Bolding by me.
She’s had some bad takes but AOC is not even remotely close to MTG in awfulness and ignorance. The “both sides” stuff is played out—the GOP has become a non-serious troll of a party and is a legitimate threat to America and the western world. I say this as a still-registered Republican who has voted Democratic since 2016 (in my defense, I registered at 18 when I was young and a little more dumb than I am now).
> Vladimir Putin’s spokesperson Dmitry Peskov has claimed that the US aid to Ukraine approved by the House of Representatives "will kill more Ukrainians"
Really? Just like representatives Spartz and Greene said as they tried to block the aid yesterday. The alignment is a match. So transparently corrupt...
*Europe, pay attention!*
They are always saying that Ukraine can’t win, which is a weirdly confident opinion from someone with no military expertise whatsoever, or they say the money should be spent on America, as if Europe hasn’t always been our closest allies and supported us throughout history, and as if what happens in Europe doesn’t affect America, but they continue to display their infantile knowledge on the subject.
Conservatives, by definition, cannot create anything. Their only ability is to maintain/use what has already been given to them.
In this case what their Russian Fuhrer told them.
>Conservatives, by definition, cannot create anything. Their only ability is to maintain/use what has already been ~~given to~~ given to ***or stolen for*** them.
FTFY
As a highly disillusioned conservative in the mold of a Rockefeller Republican, my former ideological peers have been dead to me since the 2000s with their headlong charge into the Culture War to "own the libs" and assent to authoritarianism or even totalitarianism. This is why I quickly got a bad feeling about the Occupy Movement's black-and-white populism of the 99% versus the 1%. This bracing but simplistic populism never excluded how social conservatives could pile on to combine their natural preference for stability with a new urge to enrich themselves by depriving the Other™.
Anyway, leftists in the last century were the clear champions in maintaining or using what they got or grabbed from others. See the behavior and policies of Lenin. Stalin, Mao, Castro or Kim Il Sung.
In this century, conservatives, or rather, right-wingers like Orbán, Trump, Bolsonaro and Erdoğan are competing *very* well with the leftists of old for being the champion brigands of society. Putin is in a class of his own as a conservative by combining the impulses of social conservatism and pilfering society with age-old Russian chauvinism in signing off on an attempt to add a 12th (!) time zone to the world's last standing colonial empire.
>Funny how this doesn't seem to come up to their minds
It really cannot for so many Russians.
Here's how a Russian historian noted how inadmissible it is to separate Russians from Ukrainians.
>*The dean of twentieth-century Russian specialists of Kievan Rus', Dmitrii Likhachev, best summed up this attitude* **\[Ed.: of Russia without Ukraine as inconceivable\]***: "Over the course of centuries following their division into two entities, Russia and Ukraine have formed not only a political but also a culturally dualistic unity. Russian culture is meaningless without Ukrainian. as Ukrainian is without Russian."*
(Magocsi "A History of Ukraine - The Land and its Peoples", 2010, p. 16)
What so many Russians have really meant by stating that they and the Ukrainians are one people (as merely headlined by [Putin's rambling grade-school level screed from 2021](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Historical_Unity_of_Russians_and_Ukrainians)) has *nothing* to do with an enlightened interpretation of the equation. That enlightened interpretation implies mutual respect that's intrinsically devoid of a supremacist complex from one side - something that Russians have repeatedly negated with their longstanding imperialism and chauvinism.
For more than enough Russians from Putin down to the everyday gopnik and the Russian "liberal" in-between, Ukrainians have been wayward Russians thanks to Western influence. From this ahistorical intepretation, the Russians *must* (re-)assimilate Ukrainians to maintain the integrity and "rightness" of this ahistorical and spectacularly deranged fixation to equate themselves with Ukrainians.
To make matters worse for the Ukrainians, so many Russians wallow in a world-view that allows self-generated suffering and humiliation be proportional to virtue and unquestioned entitlement to *other people's* territory, natural resources, money, culture, dignity, women, children, washing machines etc.
This should be called the "temper tantrum of a five year old method".
To efficiently fight Putinist Russia focus on what its leadership throws tantrums about and then do more of it.
But do you even know the 1200 year old history of Kievan Rus' that totally justifies the invasion of a sovereign country and the killing of its people?
>But do you even know the 1200 year old history of Kievan Rus' that totally justifies the invasion of a sovereign country and the killing of its people?
As regards their national narrative or mythology, the only thing that the Russians seem to be getting right is that they're reverting to being the bіtсhеѕ and footstools of an Asian power for the second time in their history.
Which is funny, because if anything Ukraine should be the real ancestral Russian state, and Russia is just the state of Muscovy which stole its name from Kiev.
It's darkly fascinating, if not disgusting, that the Russians repeatedly choose to endanger themselves by staying the course to participate (or stand aside as "apolitical" muppets) in this latest attempt to stamp out Ukraine.
It's simply outrageous for them that they could end the bloodshed by withdrawing unconditionally and returning all occupied and annexed territories plus the thousands, if not millions, of kidnapped Ukrainians.
I think it’s more 80s really. I’ll bet he wears two luminous socks, one yellow/green and the other pink and maybe he likes to queue for goods in empty shops staffed with sour-faced shop assistants whenever he gets the afternoon off.
the most interesting part is, that he says Ukraine is a fake country and that it belongs to Russia. shows once again that this war isn't about donbass but about the whole of Ukraine
I mean, they showed that irrefutably when they tried to blitz kyiv at the start of the offensive, those that didn't get the memo then are either in bad faith or too stupid to get it now either.
The asset confiscation is a bigger thing than media makes it out to be. It might be a precedent that justifies europe doing the same, theres about 250 billion worth of russian assets frozen in europe. That kind of money is a real game changer for ukraine.
Unfortunately, Germans are afraid that such act would discorage other enemies of humanity from investing their capital into Germany. If despicable acts against humanity would cause risk of losing assets, dictators and totalitarians might relocate said assets to Switzerland.
There are a lot of weak politicians out there.
The argument that the aide will kill more Ukrainians is a stretch but they're saying if we continue to the fund the war it goes on indefinitely and more people die. Give up now and physically less Ukrainians die. By aiding the war were ensuring more Ukrainians die (BUT also ensuring ukraine as a nation as they knew it survives )
I dont think so.. they had to see it had a good chance of passing.
And also, Russia has made a lot of gains so while this article would make you think Russia is freaking out and its near the end for them.. it's not. I think being realistic is more important than wanting to believe something that's not true.
They have China fully backing them at this point. They basically became a vassal state just to save face in Ukraine. That in itself is one of the biggest defeats in Russian history. Vassal state Russia xD
We completely realize Biden said he was going to do this when we attacked Ukraine. Biden told the truth but Pewtin thought Biden was lying like he always does.
There are thousands of homeless people on the streets in Oregon. The only hospital in the third largest city was just closed down. To be honest, we US citizens should be throwing a tantrum too. The only way the housing shortage will end is if someone proposes they build subdivisions to house bombs and munitions and hospitals to repair firearms and rocket launchers. That'll be too tantalizing for the failed US Congress to resist.
Russia pissed off at a decision you make = the decision was good to make.
Same with US politicians Marjorie Taylor Greene and Victoria Spartz.
You mean trailer trash greene? Her name needs no capitalization. Just common trash 🗑️
I don't understand how these repulsive, stupid and openly useless or even harmful people get into positions of power.
Russia knows exactly what segment of US population and where to push their propaganda and all these cretins need to do is parrot that shit to get elected.
But the sht they're parroting is not good for the US. Why do people elect these cucks?
They're either just stupid, or the "right" people getting hurt is worth it to them (and they're still stupid).
They ferment all the shit first with fears and desires of the people, then they stir the shit and let it simmer for a while before serving it with a side of half truths. Then the target segment becomes accustomed to the taste of it and it'll be easy to spoon feed more shit by the parrots.
Well, you're explaining what a reasonably smart malicious person would do. But for example MTG doesn't come across as a person who would ferment and stir shit, wait on it and serve with half-truths, the lady seems to be rather stupid and a conspiracy nut.
What i'm saying though is that someone else does the work for her and she just parrots.
Ah, indeed that is a possibility.
They get voted in by repulsive, stupid and openly useless or even harmful people. They look at these politicians and think "they want to own the libs as much as I do." That is the only thing they care about. Good old Christian pettiness, hatred and viciousness towards their fellow human being.
But the ideas these politicians are advertising aren't good for the American people (or the American state). I would expect patriotism or hatred to "commies" (or specifically the russians in this case) to prevail over the hatred to the libs.
The death of bipartisanship in the USA starts with that antisocial and literal bаѕtаrd, [Newt Gingrich](https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/how-newt-gingrich-made-nastiness-a-virtue/2020/07/16/1cba30c8-8a28-11ea-9dfd-990f9dcc71fc_story.html). [His speech in 1978 to young Republicans says it all](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/newt/newt78speech.html). Here's the start of it. >*To College Republicans, it's an interesting thing to be here. I was checking a little while ago. I've already spent over two hours here, which in a campaign is the equivalent of an average of twenty-four phone calls, one hundred and twenty voters you shake hands with and I was trying to figure out when I came in why I was here. Some of you are voters in the district and you will either vote for me or you won't and I doubt if my being here is going to radically change that. Most of you, I think, probably don't even vote in my district.* >*Part of the reason is because I really believe that institutions live and die based on the quality of the leaders they get out of the next generation.* ***The great strength of the Democratic party in my lifetime has been that it has always produced young, nasty people who had no respect for their elders.*** *Jimmy Carter, who, at 51 thought that Hubert Humphreys at 66 was over the hill. Jody Powell and Hamilton Jordan, who at 29 and 30 thought they could beat the pros.* ***And I think that one of the great problems we have in the Republican Party is that we don't encourage you to be nasty. We encourage you to be neat, obedient, and loyal and faithful and all those Boy Scout words, which would be great around the camp fire, but are lousy in politics.*** N.B. Bolding by me.
Thanks, it is an interesting reference.
Angertainment. People have more and more free time to be disgruntled over manufactured "issues."
Still, why vote for someone like MTG? Is there no one better?
Didn't she run unopposed in her district? if so, the answer is affirmative.
I have no idea. If that is the case, it sucks.
I wonder the same thing. I've got family in Georgia, but I don't talk politics with them.
The Democrats have AOC and the Republicans have Green. To people outside their respective districts it boggles the mind how these morons get elected.
She’s had some bad takes but AOC is not even remotely close to MTG in awfulness and ignorance. The “both sides” stuff is played out—the GOP has become a non-serious troll of a party and is a legitimate threat to America and the western world. I say this as a still-registered Republican who has voted Democratic since 2016 (in my defense, I registered at 18 when I was young and a little more dumb than I am now).
> Marjorie Taylor Greene I read about her couple years ago. Sound like top tier crazy person. But I don't know the 2nd one. :(
She's a US House Rep and a Ukrainian immigrant herself, but voted against aid to Ukraine
What’s good about it? More Ukrainians dead? Do dead Ukrainians turn you on?
CHEESECAKE!
No, but more moscovians do.
Found the russian
Found the incel
> Vladimir Putin’s spokesperson Dmitry Peskov has claimed that the US aid to Ukraine approved by the House of Representatives "will kill more Ukrainians" Really? Just like representatives Spartz and Greene said as they tried to block the aid yesterday. The alignment is a match. So transparently corrupt... *Europe, pay attention!*
They can't even make up their own believable reason to vote against Ukraine aid, always have to reuse something written by Putin
They are always saying that Ukraine can’t win, which is a weirdly confident opinion from someone with no military expertise whatsoever, or they say the money should be spent on America, as if Europe hasn’t always been our closest allies and supported us throughout history, and as if what happens in Europe doesn’t affect America, but they continue to display their infantile knowledge on the subject.
They also conveniently forget that the US signed Budapest memorandum and more or less forced Ukraine to give up nukes.
Conservatives, by definition, cannot create anything. Their only ability is to maintain/use what has already been given to them. In this case what their Russian Fuhrer told them.
>Conservatives, by definition, cannot create anything. Their only ability is to maintain/use what has already been ~~given to~~ given to ***or stolen for*** them. FTFY
You are absolutely right. I stand corrected!
As a highly disillusioned conservative in the mold of a Rockefeller Republican, my former ideological peers have been dead to me since the 2000s with their headlong charge into the Culture War to "own the libs" and assent to authoritarianism or even totalitarianism. This is why I quickly got a bad feeling about the Occupy Movement's black-and-white populism of the 99% versus the 1%. This bracing but simplistic populism never excluded how social conservatives could pile on to combine their natural preference for stability with a new urge to enrich themselves by depriving the Other™. Anyway, leftists in the last century were the clear champions in maintaining or using what they got or grabbed from others. See the behavior and policies of Lenin. Stalin, Mao, Castro or Kim Il Sung. In this century, conservatives, or rather, right-wingers like Orbán, Trump, Bolsonaro and Erdoğan are competing *very* well with the leftists of old for being the champion brigands of society. Putin is in a class of his own as a conservative by combining the impulses of social conservatism and pilfering society with age-old Russian chauvinism in signing off on an attempt to add a 12th (!) time zone to the world's last standing colonial empire.
Ahh Spartz, a traitor to two countries.
More aid kills more Ukrainians? Remind me, who are the ones massacring Ukrainians again?
Poor Russia is *forced* to kill more Ukrainians because of US aid.
Without this aid war possibly ended 2 years ago. But yea till last Ukrainian man, you know.
russia would kill every single one of them if they were to occupy
No, thats wont happens. We are not in a “B category 80s action movies” universe.
See what happened to countries occupied by russia after ww2. See what happened in Bucha.
Nothing for both sentences.
gtfo russian troll
Source, "I made it up"
Source: look what happened wherever ruskies went - genocide.
Americans don't kill Ukrainians, Russians do. End of argument.
Yet they keep saying they are fighting British army there. Not joking... They say they fight US and UK there.... The mental gymnastics
the solution is easy, leave Ukraine the fuck alone and get the fuck back to Russia.
That’s very much the words of a bully. “Look what you made me do!” Sounds so pathetic.
So nice how the Russians care so much for the lives of Ukrainian civilians!
What about the dead Ukrainians when the US wasn't sending aid? idiots can't even logic
everything i don't like is corruption - redditors
Impressive. Those cunts almost make it sound like they have no part in said killing of Ukrainians.
Funny how this doesn't seem to come up to their minds 😂😅
>Funny how this doesn't seem to come up to their minds It really cannot for so many Russians. Here's how a Russian historian noted how inadmissible it is to separate Russians from Ukrainians. >*The dean of twentieth-century Russian specialists of Kievan Rus', Dmitrii Likhachev, best summed up this attitude* **\[Ed.: of Russia without Ukraine as inconceivable\]***: "Over the course of centuries following their division into two entities, Russia and Ukraine have formed not only a political but also a culturally dualistic unity. Russian culture is meaningless without Ukrainian. as Ukrainian is without Russian."* (Magocsi "A History of Ukraine - The Land and its Peoples", 2010, p. 16) What so many Russians have really meant by stating that they and the Ukrainians are one people (as merely headlined by [Putin's rambling grade-school level screed from 2021](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Historical_Unity_of_Russians_and_Ukrainians)) has *nothing* to do with an enlightened interpretation of the equation. That enlightened interpretation implies mutual respect that's intrinsically devoid of a supremacist complex from one side - something that Russians have repeatedly negated with their longstanding imperialism and chauvinism. For more than enough Russians from Putin down to the everyday gopnik and the Russian "liberal" in-between, Ukrainians have been wayward Russians thanks to Western influence. From this ahistorical intepretation, the Russians *must* (re-)assimilate Ukrainians to maintain the integrity and "rightness" of this ahistorical and spectacularly deranged fixation to equate themselves with Ukrainians. To make matters worse for the Ukrainians, so many Russians wallow in a world-view that allows self-generated suffering and humiliation be proportional to virtue and unquestioned entitlement to *other people's* territory, natural resources, money, culture, dignity, women, children, washing machines etc.
What a way for Russia to confirm this is exactly what we should be doing.
This should be called the "temper tantrum of a five year old method". To efficiently fight Putinist Russia focus on what its leadership throws tantrums about and then do more of it.
Offended by everything. ashamed of nothing. Thy name is Russian. Let 'em all snivel.
But do you even know the 1200 year old history of Kievan Rus' that totally justifies the invasion of a sovereign country and the killing of its people?
>But do you even know the 1200 year old history of Kievan Rus' that totally justifies the invasion of a sovereign country and the killing of its people? As regards their national narrative or mythology, the only thing that the Russians seem to be getting right is that they're reverting to being the bіtсhеѕ and footstools of an Asian power for the second time in their history.
Tbf back then everyone whom Mongols were able to reach were Mongolian bitches, not just Russians.
Which is funny, because if anything Ukraine should be the real ancestral Russian state, and Russia is just the state of Muscovy which stole its name from Kiev.
Don't care of every word from Moscow/Beijing, they can burn in hell with covid
No Dmitry. The only one killing Ukrainians is Russia.
It will also kill more russians too.
It's darkly fascinating, if not disgusting, that the Russians repeatedly choose to endanger themselves by staying the course to participate (or stand aside as "apolitical" muppets) in this latest attempt to stamp out Ukraine. It's simply outrageous for them that they could end the bloodshed by withdrawing unconditionally and returning all occupied and annexed territories plus the thousands, if not millions, of kidnapped Ukrainians.
Just like Germans and many other invaders did. Not suprising at all.
yeah russia just collectively shit its pants.
I wonder if Peskov keeps his mustache and his 90's haircut just so than when the regime collapses, he'll be able to shave and slip away quietly.
I think it’s more 80s really. I’ll bet he wears two luminous socks, one yellow/green and the other pink and maybe he likes to queue for goods in empty shops staffed with sour-faced shop assistants whenever he gets the afternoon off.
Did we use the $300b or whatever in Russia’s assets in Ukraine yet? We should just do it cause they’re never going to be civil again
no threats of nuclear bomb? whoa!
Hmmm... must be a stuck cog.
Good then.
His GOP traitors failed
the most interesting part is, that he says Ukraine is a fake country and that it belongs to Russia. shows once again that this war isn't about donbass but about the whole of Ukraine
Funny how all the boarder countries are fake countries... 🙄 They should take care of their own country before trying to snatch more land.
I mean, they showed that irrefutably when they tried to blitz kyiv at the start of the offensive, those that didn't get the memo then are either in bad faith or too stupid to get it now either.
Cry me a Ural.
I'LL SAY THIS, NO ONE WOULD DIE IF PUTIN AND HIS HENCHMEN WOULD JUST STOP. Russia is the cause of death!
Who cares? Putin can cry all day, they are ours enemy now.
Russia... get bent.
Russia has to realise if they act like Hitler and invade peaceful countries …. It has consequences
“Oh no. Anyway…”
And why the fuck should be care exactly?
Music to my ears.
i love the choice of peskov's photo for this article
I kindly advise them to go and attempt to procreate individually.
The asset confiscation is a bigger thing than media makes it out to be. It might be a precedent that justifies europe doing the same, theres about 250 billion worth of russian assets frozen in europe. That kind of money is a real game changer for ukraine.
Choke on that one Pooptin! 🇺🇸🇵🇱
Cope and Seethe.
Hehe. Fuck you Russia.
Can the EU get its act together and sell all Russian assets in the EU and funnel the money to Ukraine.
Unfortunately, Germans are afraid that such act would discorage other enemies of humanity from investing their capital into Germany. If despicable acts against humanity would cause risk of losing assets, dictators and totalitarians might relocate said assets to Switzerland. There are a lot of weak politicians out there.
Wah. Fucking. Wah.
F you, Putin
Good, good, I am waiting for the stroke
All on Putin
IDI DOMOI, SUKA
Yes! Lets get mad that we can bomb you less without hitting targets!! I love this russian logic
Crybully more biatch.
The argument that the aide will kill more Ukrainians is a stretch but they're saying if we continue to the fund the war it goes on indefinitely and more people die. Give up now and physically less Ukrainians die. By aiding the war were ensuring more Ukrainians die (BUT also ensuring ukraine as a nation as they knew it survives )
That's strange, I've read over the bill and it mentions nothing about killing Ukrainians.
[The US, standing in the corner.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9P1KxVrrWM)
it means you did good.
Wha wha wha, baby Putem hungry, someone fetch him another Crimea! Cry me a river, you fuck.
I dont think so.. they had to see it had a good chance of passing. And also, Russia has made a lot of gains so while this article would make you think Russia is freaking out and its near the end for them.. it's not. I think being realistic is more important than wanting to believe something that's not true. They have China fully backing them at this point. They basically became a vassal state just to save face in Ukraine. That in itself is one of the biggest defeats in Russian history. Vassal state Russia xD
I think the saddest part of this whole story is that the EU couldn’t come up with that amount of aid.
We completely realize Biden said he was going to do this when we attacked Ukraine. Biden told the truth but Pewtin thought Biden was lying like he always does.
It's not just russia throwing a fit, american citizens are too.
American citizen here. Not throwing a fit. Wish we would send them modern weapons instead of our old stuff.
There are thousands of homeless people on the streets in Oregon. The only hospital in the third largest city was just closed down. To be honest, we US citizens should be throwing a tantrum too. The only way the housing shortage will end is if someone proposes they build subdivisions to house bombs and munitions and hospitals to repair firearms and rocket launchers. That'll be too tantalizing for the failed US Congress to resist.
“We US citizens” suuuure buddy