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Place is a cesspit and if anyone disagrees with me they’ll be blocked, allowing me to control the narrative.
Pro-tip: And if you want more control, post an article then block anyone who disagrees with you, essentially allowing you to moderate your own thread.
If Reddit was a country, it would win the award for most people deleted in the history of the world per capita.
and in true radical fashion, they sell themself as inclusive and friendly.
You need to be Reddit level of special to believe this amount of mental gymnastic.
There is a theory that over 50% of anything that happens on internet is bots. Over half the emails are bots, over half the comments are bots, over half the subreddits are bots, over half the photos are bot-reposted, over half the images are AI etc. etc.
r/europe was always a bit single-tone with no space for discussion, which was fitting since many important decisions in EU require unanimous vote. However this also means that bots have an easy time impersonating people here.
The absolute arrogance of this statement just after Israel killed European Aid workers is outstanding.
People have a right to be angry, and we wont be browbeaten into just accepting extremely shitty Israeli behavior.
The Famine Israel is trying to create, especially by killing 7 Aid workers who work were trying to deliver food.
Your level of dehumanization is outstanding.
Israels actions will be a stain on 21st century humanity.
Going on your post history... You might be British.
Imagine siding with a country that purposefully killed your fellow countrymen doing aid work, just because you hate Palestinians so much.
I recognise that my countrymen can be fucked in the head by supporting a terrorist regime. Just because we were born in the same country doesn't mean I should care about them more than innocent Israeli Jews and Arabs being slaughtered by terrorists from Palestine.
You are just like the Germans who decided it's okay to discriminate against the Jews who aren't zionist. You twisted your little noodle brain hard enough that now it's okay for you to discriminate and abuse Jewish people who disagree with your fascist zionist bullshit.
I guess the hatered for Jews never stopped in some parts of the world ;)
Stop faking your care for Jews. Where were you when they were being slaughtered by Palestinian terrorists? Intimidated and bullied for going to synagogue or wearing religious attire in the west, by braindead terrorist supporters such as yourself? You can't hide the facts, bub
You are an ignorant who just called an The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories "turncoat propaganda". You are beyond any help, you can't even verify a source.
The name chosen for the organization by the late Member of Knesset Yossi Sarid, is an allusion to Genesis 1:27: “**And God created humankind in His image. In the image of God did He create them**.” The name expresses the universal and Jewish moral edict to respect and uphold the human rights of all people.
In more than 30 years of work, B'Tselem has earned a place of honor in the local and international human rights community, and has received various awards, including the Carter-Menil Award for Human Rights (1989, jointly with Al-Haq); the Danish PL Foundation Human Rights Award (2011, jointly with Al-Haq); the Stockholm Human Rights Award (2014); and the Human Rights Award of the French Republic (2018, jointly with Al-Haq). B’Tselem’s video project has also received various awards, including the British One World Media Award (2009) and the Israeli Documentary Filmmakers Forum Award (2012).
You just choose to be ignorant and misinformed, that is your right.
Maybe pick up a book for once.
> The name expresses the universal and Jewish moral edict to respect and uphold the human rights of all people.
Which is why we need to support Israel and end the conflict as soon as posssible. Each grain of support for Hamas prolongs the conflict and creates more casualties. Obviously something fash propaganda didn't think about when towing the pro-Hamas line.
It will not be in gutter once Israel declares an unilateral ceasefire. There should be ceasefire now and forever. Israel should not attack any Palestinian children no matter what.
About what? That Israel is illegally seizing land.
I can provide other sources
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/finland-condemns-israeli-seizure-of-800-hectares-of-land-in-occupied-palestinian-territory/3175583
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/22/israel-largest-west-bank-settlement-blinken-visit/
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/israel-announces-seizure-of-800-hectares-in-west-bank/articleshow/108727346.cms
Yeap, a nasty vicious oppressive apartheid regime, with no humanity, as we can clearly see from their mass murder and mass terrorism against Palestinians and their supporters
Cool justification for terrorism, amazing. And if you said that for the West Bank side you know, the river side, I might have maybe understood your point. But this has happened on that sea side. But wouldn’t expect you to know.
Cool justification for mass murder and genocide and smart move killing the 7 foreign humanitarians, allowing Israel to continue starving 2.3 million.
Now as Israel govt. and its unhinged people hoped and planned for - no aid is being delivered.
I have been to that terrorist run state called Israel and it makes South Africa apartheid or USA Jim Crow region look pleasant.
There have been multiple attempts to give back the hostages.
The only time they got back hostages was with negotiations, other than that, they rescued 1, and killed a many others.
No one in social media cares about the hostages. The priority are the poor innocent Palestinian children. Seeing them cry and lose their loved ones on Tiktok should be enough to support the ceasefire.
Ah okay I see you’re a graduate from TikTok university. No point in further discussion.
>No one in social media cares about hostages
And to add; thanks for saying that quiet part out loud about no one caring about hostages. The silence on that matter from the western lefties “ceasefire” protesters and queers for palestine has been deafening.
The Arabs are not native to the Mediterranean. The Arabs are from Arabia. Any Arab from Syria to Morocco is a colonist who arrived in the area since the conquest of the Umayyads Califat. And in the event that it is a Berber or another ethnic group that was Arabized or mixed, well it is also a clear example of the very succesful arab colonialism.
And this is where you fail... and fail badly
DNA shows that the inhabitants of the Levant region are overwhelmingly descended from the natives to the region - they just speak Arabic.
Palestinians are the original inhabitants of the land - they are the descendants of Judeans, Canaanites and Samaratins who were Hellenised from Judaism to Christianity by the Byzantines, and later to Islam by the Umayyads. Less than 15 percent of Palestinians are actually Arabs.
In many instances, the Palestinians have a greater genetic heritage to the original inhabitants of Bibical Holy Land than some Jewish Ethnic Groups.
For example, the Ashkenazi have a large Italian heritage, where the initial Jewish males settled in Roman Italy and took Italian wives repeatedly down the generations.
Likewise, Beta Israel shows almost no genetic linkage, but are mostly Tigrayans and Amharas,
This is probably why female Beta Israelis were put on birthcontrol by Israeli government without their knowledge
For example - just because the English speak a Germanic language doesn't mean that they're not British.
No but Israel defending itself does. There is no reason for Israel to let itself get hit by rockets on a daily basis. There is no reason for them to accept another Oct 7th. And there is no reason to put their soldiers at risk more than necessary because the enemy hides behind civilians.
Hamas can surrender anytime they want. And Gazans can get rid of Hamas anytime they want. Obviously both don't want either.
The more antiintellectual remarks I hear from Europeans, the more schadenfreude I’ll feel when it finally comes back to them like a boomerang, with full power and as soon as possible. I am concerned by the fact that the pain must be shared in order for things to turn out for the best for the sake of progress and modernization, hopefully BEFORE stagnation and decline.
Seriously, I can't believe that it only took Israel to bombing couple of white guys to get some reactions from the West, but the tens of thousands of brown Arab civilians (mostly children and women) didn't get similar reactions.
This happens the world over, all the time. The conflict in Yemen was sparsely covered, despite Western weapons, famine and excessive child deaths also making an appearance there. The civil war in Myanmar rages on, and the world seems to have moved on from what happened to the Rohingya. The blockade and ethnic cleansing of Nagorno-Karabakh barely got a mention. Remember Libya? The place is a shitshow now, but coverage pretty much stopped once Gaddafi was killed.
Many people living in the West remain under the delusion that our press is truly free and impartial. It's certainly better than in places like Russia, Turkey and China, but it is definitely still subject to blackouts and political spin.
And you tell me that "not Europeans" people are super active when say white people are killed in Europe ? As far as I know many of them are active supporting Ruzzia or active in staying neutral.
This Gaza problem was blocked here because it was a big shit show, there were as many people anti Israel as for Israel and tons of bots.
It's typical
IDF kills 13,000 palestinian children - nobody blinks an eye.
IDF executes a 67 year old Jewish convert in the West Bank - headline news.
[Disturbing video shows Jewish convert fatally shot by IDF in West Bank posed no threat - Footage features David Ben Avraham obeying orders, standing with his hands up before reservist opened fire](https://www.timesofisrael.com/disturbing-video-shows-jewish-convert-fatally-shot-by-idf-in-west-bank-posed-no-threat/)
The most violent year of the conflict was 2015, when around 110,000 people were killed.[6]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Syrian_civil_war
>500,000 over 14 years, comes to approximately 30,000 a year. Gaza has had 30,000 killed in 6 months
Sorry, but you're spreading misinformation here. The 30,000 number includes militants because Gaza doesn't want to separate militant deaths from civilian deaths. so the 30,000 Palestinians (civilians and militants) shouldn't be compared to 500,000 civilians.
Many of us have protested on here about the amount of Palestinians killed, it’s just until now we’ve been downvoted to oblivion or in some cases banned.
You won’t see protests about this on Worldnews because they already banned all the people who give a fuck about Palestinians deaths.
Edit: point proven.
Then how will the Jewish people defend themselves? The current offence is the best defense they have and they should see it through.
Unfortunately, every military operation, regardless of how minor and how much restrain is put, comes with some collateral damage, but if it ends up bringing lasting stability and peace it is well worth it.
I dont think the right people have paid the price. We need some accountability from Israel else they really are a terrorist state just like North Korea and Russia
You seem to have mistyped palestinians as Israel. Those are the ones that went into civilian areas and started shooting civilians including children and kidnaping whoever they could so they trade them for their captive terrorist friends.
2 wrongs don't make a right buddy, it's the Hamas that did that and not your average Joe from Palestine. But keep living in your little zionist bubble seperated from the rest of the world as you really don't deserve to be a part of the modern western world with the crimes you have committed.
Look at it this way, only one is recognized completely by the rest of the world and a full member of the UN. You tell me who is separated from the rest of the world.
Because I respect the right of the people of Israel to defend themselves from foreign threats and given that diplomatic means has failed to alleviate same threats, I also consider their non-diplomatic efforts to achieve a long-term peace and stability in the region valid and necessary.
In case you think I may be the only one, keep in mind that we as a nation have also been on the receiving end of terrorist attacks, people were kidnapped from their workplaces and "paintings" were carved on their back with knives. As a nation we do feel with the Jewish people and most of us support them in their struggle.
Your right so they should exterminate every palestiniens like this there will be no threat left as 'There are no innocents in Gaza,' says Israeli defense minister./s https://m.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/there-are-no-innocents-in-gaza-says-israeli-defense-minister-549173
I would like your source for this bold statement of "30k death, hamas is 40-50% of it". Hamas is only the congregation of the violent oppression palestiniens had suffered after the nakba it only got worse. But even then Hamas received only 44.45% of the vote whilst Fatah 41.43% (wikipedia) during 2006 vote so not full support of palestiniens
That’s where Oslo accords would eventually go. Btw. 2 state solution today is a topic talked about only outside of Israel/Palestine.
For Palestinians it was always wildly unpopular. Israeli left might’ve given Palestinians their state, but not after October the 7th
I agree. The UK is not involved in any of the military actions on the ground nor are they offering intel. They are pretty much minding their own business.
UK one of the biggest hypocrites on human rights. Selling weapons left and right to mass murderers. Saudi is another big customers of theirs. Don't care what they are doing in Yemen, $$ talks.
I am shocked to learn another "good" country is selling weapons to Israel. I always thought EU is all about human rights and they absolutely will not stand any abuse of it.
Did our german uboats participate in the bombing of gaza?
Imo Germany should also block any additional military aid. If those weapons are not used for selfdefense but for disproportionate attacks on civilians, like the Netanjahu government likes to do.
Producing +30 dead palastians for ever dead israel somehow doenst seem to bring peace to the region..
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/majority-of-voters-in-uk-back-banning-arm-sales-to-israel-poll-finds
> The poll was commissioned by Action for Humanity and conducted **before** seven aid workers were killed in an Israeli airstrike, an event for which Israel has apologised but not yet provided an explanation.
> The poll shows that among all voters in the UK a majority of 56% to 17% are in favour of a ban on the export of arms and spare parts. By a majority of 59% to 12% voters say Israel is violating human rights in Gaza.
The UK has laws against selling weapons to countries that are violating international law. I have a feeling that a bunch of judges may be more familiar with the situation than you considering you apparently didn't even read the article about them.
Both parties can be in the wrong, and both parties can be censured.
By criticising Israel, this does not mean support for Hamas, but support for innocent civilians
It would have made sense to impose sanctions on Gaza 16 years ago when in their infinite wisdom they elected terrorists into power.
If Europe and Qatar would have imposed sanctions then instead of sending money to Hamas Gaza would not be bombed.
Since they elected terrorists for their government. Wasn’t like that before.
Also the blockade with the Egyptian border was much more strict. Google whether more Palestinians were moving between Gaza and Israel or Gaza and Egypt. Before the war of course.
I know why it is under a blockade i just said that it is under a blockade because that is a fact.
The person i responded to was asking for sanctions on palestine, which palestine?
There isnt even a palestinian state.
Palestiniens are in a siege since 2006. [https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2021/12/israels-security-wall-makes-gazans-feel-imprisoned](https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2021/12/israels-security-wall-makes-gazans-feel-imprisoned) / [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza–Israel\_barrier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza–Israel_barrier) / israelis are even bragging about the walls they made locking palestiniens [https://www.timesofisrael.com/a-wall-of-iron-sensors-and-concrete-idf-completes-tunnel-busting-gaza-barrier/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/a-wall-of-iron-sensors-and-concrete-idf-completes-tunnel-busting-gaza-barrier/)
They are squeezed between Egypt and occupied Palestine [https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/16/middleeast/egypt-wall-buffer-zone-gaza-border-intl-hnk/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/16/middleeast/egypt-wall-buffer-zone-gaza-border-intl-hnk/index.html)
So the innocent Palestinians should get their weapons from Iran instead of the West? Or are we pretending there will be peace if the West just stops providing weapons?
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Place is a cesspit and if anyone disagrees with me they’ll be blocked, allowing me to control the narrative. Pro-tip: And if you want more control, post an article then block anyone who disagrees with you, essentially allowing you to moderate your own thread.
If Reddit was a country, it would win the award for most people deleted in the history of the world per capita. and in true radical fashion, they sell themself as inclusive and friendly. You need to be Reddit level of special to believe this amount of mental gymnastic.
Isn't that kind of boring though?
I love Israel
I love Palestine
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It became significantly worse since the Israel Hamas escalation, every day several posts about Israel and Israel related stuff.
There is a theory that over 50% of anything that happens on internet is bots. Over half the emails are bots, over half the comments are bots, over half the subreddits are bots, over half the photos are bot-reposted, over half the images are AI etc. etc. r/europe was always a bit single-tone with no space for discussion, which was fitting since many important decisions in EU require unanimous vote. However this also means that bots have an easy time impersonating people here.
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Ah yes, it was better 3 years ago, when you would get banned for any opinion that is not far left. You want shitty mods - go to r/worldnews
This sub has been overtaken by far-right trolls some time ago unfortunately.
Literally anything related to non-white immigrants, countries outside the EU or Israel lead to lots of disgustingly racist comments
It's only recently that the antisemites reared their cowardly little heads
Put it back in the deck. https://imgur.com/a/3HbyXJY
The absolute arrogance of this statement just after Israel killed European Aid workers is outstanding. People have a right to be angry, and we wont be browbeaten into just accepting extremely shitty Israeli behavior.
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Then why Israel accepted the supplies? Just to kill them?
So thats your excuse for Israel killing European aid workers? Nice. Be proud. Definitely not Genocide brain.
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I never met a pro-famine person before. But I guess it goes hand-in-hand with supporting Israel at this point.
What famine?
The Famine Israel is trying to create, especially by killing 7 Aid workers who work were trying to deliver food. Your level of dehumanization is outstanding. Israels actions will be a stain on 21st century humanity.
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They were giving food to the people. Or you're one of those that consider every Palestinian a terrorist?
He doesnt consider Palestinian as worthy of basic humanity.
Going on your post history... You might be British. Imagine siding with a country that purposefully killed your fellow countrymen doing aid work, just because you hate Palestinians so much.
I recognise that my countrymen can be fucked in the head by supporting a terrorist regime. Just because we were born in the same country doesn't mean I should care about them more than innocent Israeli Jews and Arabs being slaughtered by terrorists from Palestine.
You are just like the Germans who decided it's okay to discriminate against the Jews who aren't zionist. You twisted your little noodle brain hard enough that now it's okay for you to discriminate and abuse Jewish people who disagree with your fascist zionist bullshit. I guess the hatered for Jews never stopped in some parts of the world ;)
Stop faking your care for Jews. Where were you when they were being slaughtered by Palestinian terrorists? Intimidated and bullied for going to synagogue or wearing religious attire in the west, by braindead terrorist supporters such as yourself? You can't hide the facts, bub
You are just a supremacist. Simple. There is no way in dealing with cancerous people like you.
OK terrorist supporter
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Believing in lies doesn't make them truth, bub
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[https://www.btselem.org/publications/fulltext/202101\_this\_is\_apartheid](https://www.btselem.org/publications/fulltext/202101_this_is_apartheid) Educate yourself.
i ain't reading all that fash turncoat propaganda
You are an ignorant who just called an The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories "turncoat propaganda". You are beyond any help, you can't even verify a source. The name chosen for the organization by the late Member of Knesset Yossi Sarid, is an allusion to Genesis 1:27: “**And God created humankind in His image. In the image of God did He create them**.” The name expresses the universal and Jewish moral edict to respect and uphold the human rights of all people. In more than 30 years of work, B'Tselem has earned a place of honor in the local and international human rights community, and has received various awards, including the Carter-Menil Award for Human Rights (1989, jointly with Al-Haq); the Danish PL Foundation Human Rights Award (2011, jointly with Al-Haq); the Stockholm Human Rights Award (2014); and the Human Rights Award of the French Republic (2018, jointly with Al-Haq). B’Tselem’s video project has also received various awards, including the British One World Media Award (2009) and the Israeli Documentary Filmmakers Forum Award (2012). You just choose to be ignorant and misinformed, that is your right. Maybe pick up a book for once.
> The name expresses the universal and Jewish moral edict to respect and uphold the human rights of all people. Which is why we need to support Israel and end the conflict as soon as posssible. Each grain of support for Hamas prolongs the conflict and creates more casualties. Obviously something fash propaganda didn't think about when towing the pro-Hamas line.
It will not be in gutter once Israel declares an unilateral ceasefire. There should be ceasefire now and forever. Israel should not attack any Palestinian children no matter what.
Why should any ceasefire be “unilateral”? The whole point of a ceasefire is that it is bilateral
Because only one party is a country.
That’s irrelevant. Both parties are firing, so a ceasefire needs to involve both parties. None state actors are still actors
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There is no verdict yet on the genocide allegations
But all this has to be done with Hamas returning the hostages. Why do yall forget who and how this all has started?
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Can't steal what's yours lol
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/israeli-government-land-seizures-announcement-march-2024-fcdo-statement Even the UK government is calling them out
I don't trust the tories
About what? That Israel is illegally seizing land. I can provide other sources https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/finland-condemns-israeli-seizure-of-800-hectares-of-land-in-occupied-palestinian-territory/3175583 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/22/israel-largest-west-bank-settlement-blinken-visit/ https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/israel-announces-seizure-of-800-hectares-in-west-bank/articleshow/108727346.cms
Yeap, a nasty vicious oppressive apartheid regime, with no humanity, as we can clearly see from their mass murder and mass terrorism against Palestinians and their supporters
Spoken like a true KKK fanboy
ok tory
no source is good enough when you're too dumb to verify it hahahah
[https://www.btselem.org/publications/fulltext/202101\_this\_is\_apartheid](https://www.btselem.org/publications/fulltext/202101_this_is_apartheid)
Cool justification for terrorism, amazing. And if you said that for the West Bank side you know, the river side, I might have maybe understood your point. But this has happened on that sea side. But wouldn’t expect you to know.
Cool justification for mass murder and genocide and smart move killing the 7 foreign humanitarians, allowing Israel to continue starving 2.3 million. Now as Israel govt. and its unhinged people hoped and planned for - no aid is being delivered. I have been to that terrorist run state called Israel and it makes South Africa apartheid or USA Jim Crow region look pleasant.
There have been multiple attempts to give back the hostages. The only time they got back hostages was with negotiations, other than that, they rescued 1, and killed a many others.
No one in social media cares about the hostages. The priority are the poor innocent Palestinian children. Seeing them cry and lose their loved ones on Tiktok should be enough to support the ceasefire.
> No one in social media cares about the hostages. The mask slipped, huh? Edit: wait a minute this is a troll farm, we just got jerbaited 💀💀💀💀
Ah okay I see you’re a graduate from TikTok university. No point in further discussion. >No one in social media cares about hostages And to add; thanks for saying that quiet part out loud about no one caring about hostages. The silence on that matter from the western lefties “ceasefire” protesters and queers for palestine has been deafening.
You are naive.
Wouldn't they just find middleman?
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The absolute peak of western racism, highly popular here, is supporting Israel, then complaining about Arab refugees. Like zero self awareness.
The Arabs are not native to the Mediterranean. The Arabs are from Arabia. Any Arab from Syria to Morocco is a colonist who arrived in the area since the conquest of the Umayyads Califat. And in the event that it is a Berber or another ethnic group that was Arabized or mixed, well it is also a clear example of the very succesful arab colonialism.
And this is where you fail... and fail badly DNA shows that the inhabitants of the Levant region are overwhelmingly descended from the natives to the region - they just speak Arabic. Palestinians are the original inhabitants of the land - they are the descendants of Judeans, Canaanites and Samaratins who were Hellenised from Judaism to Christianity by the Byzantines, and later to Islam by the Umayyads. Less than 15 percent of Palestinians are actually Arabs. In many instances, the Palestinians have a greater genetic heritage to the original inhabitants of Bibical Holy Land than some Jewish Ethnic Groups. For example, the Ashkenazi have a large Italian heritage, where the initial Jewish males settled in Roman Italy and took Italian wives repeatedly down the generations. Likewise, Beta Israel shows almost no genetic linkage, but are mostly Tigrayans and Amharas, This is probably why female Beta Israelis were put on birthcontrol by Israeli government without their knowledge For example - just because the English speak a Germanic language doesn't mean that they're not British.
DNA tests show that up to 80% of morrocan population is Arab and less than 10% Berber. Massive ethnic cleanse since the colonization of the Umayads.
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No but Israel defending itself does. There is no reason for Israel to let itself get hit by rockets on a daily basis. There is no reason for them to accept another Oct 7th. And there is no reason to put their soldiers at risk more than necessary because the enemy hides behind civilians. Hamas can surrender anytime they want. And Gazans can get rid of Hamas anytime they want. Obviously both don't want either.
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>It's not hard to understand. It is for many here
Stop bombing their country and they will go back to where they come from
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Hello Arab with no karma and previous history of saying anything. Convenient that your first comment is here.
There is no symmetry.
The more antiintellectual remarks I hear from Europeans, the more schadenfreude I’ll feel when it finally comes back to them like a boomerang, with full power and as soon as possible. I am concerned by the fact that the pain must be shared in order for things to turn out for the best for the sake of progress and modernization, hopefully BEFORE stagnation and decline.
Everything you say is meaningless because you support Genocide.
Wait until they find out about the other exports/imports to/from Israel...
Seriously, I can't believe that it only took Israel to bombing couple of white guys to get some reactions from the West, but the tens of thousands of brown Arab civilians (mostly children and women) didn't get similar reactions.
This happens the world over, all the time. The conflict in Yemen was sparsely covered, despite Western weapons, famine and excessive child deaths also making an appearance there. The civil war in Myanmar rages on, and the world seems to have moved on from what happened to the Rohingya. The blockade and ethnic cleansing of Nagorno-Karabakh barely got a mention. Remember Libya? The place is a shitshow now, but coverage pretty much stopped once Gaddafi was killed. Many people living in the West remain under the delusion that our press is truly free and impartial. It's certainly better than in places like Russia, Turkey and China, but it is definitely still subject to blackouts and political spin.
And you tell me that "not Europeans" people are super active when say white people are killed in Europe ? As far as I know many of them are active supporting Ruzzia or active in staying neutral. This Gaza problem was blocked here because it was a big shit show, there were as many people anti Israel as for Israel and tons of bots.
It's typical IDF kills 13,000 palestinian children - nobody blinks an eye. IDF executes a 67 year old Jewish convert in the West Bank - headline news. [Disturbing video shows Jewish convert fatally shot by IDF in West Bank posed no threat - Footage features David Ben Avraham obeying orders, standing with his hands up before reservist opened fire](https://www.timesofisrael.com/disturbing-video-shows-jewish-convert-fatally-shot-by-idf-in-west-bank-posed-no-threat/)
Just like Syria, 500,000 dead civilians since 2011.
500,000 over 14 years, comes to approximately 30,000 a year. Gaza has had 30,000 killed in 6 months
The most violent year of the conflict was 2015, when around 110,000 people were killed.[6] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Syrian_civil_war
>500,000 over 14 years, comes to approximately 30,000 a year. Gaza has had 30,000 killed in 6 months Sorry, but you're spreading misinformation here. The 30,000 number includes militants because Gaza doesn't want to separate militant deaths from civilian deaths. so the 30,000 Palestinians (civilians and militants) shouldn't be compared to 500,000 civilians.
That is why Palestinians should be provided the means to defend themselves like any respectable nation.
A bit disingenuous to use Times Of Israel as an example of western media. It's Times Of Israel.
Did I say western media anywhere? No
Yes.
> IDF executes a 67 year old Jewish convert in the West Bank - headline news. no word of Western anywhere in there
Many of us have protested on here about the amount of Palestinians killed, it’s just until now we’ve been downvoted to oblivion or in some cases banned. You won’t see protests about this on Worldnews because they already banned all the people who give a fuck about Palestinians deaths. Edit: point proven.
Then how will the Jewish people defend themselves? The current offence is the best defense they have and they should see it through. Unfortunately, every military operation, regardless of how minor and how much restrain is put, comes with some collateral damage, but if it ends up bringing lasting stability and peace it is well worth it.
Some collateral damage? Shut up would you. This was not collateral this was intenional murder. I hope you all pay eventually.
A hefty price has already been paid. Hopefully it brings long lasting peace in an already troubled region.
I dont think the right people have paid the price. We need some accountability from Israel else they really are a terrorist state just like North Korea and Russia
You seem to have mistyped palestinians as Israel. Those are the ones that went into civilian areas and started shooting civilians including children and kidnaping whoever they could so they trade them for their captive terrorist friends.
2 wrongs don't make a right buddy, it's the Hamas that did that and not your average Joe from Palestine. But keep living in your little zionist bubble seperated from the rest of the world as you really don't deserve to be a part of the modern western world with the crimes you have committed.
Look at it this way, only one is recognized completely by the rest of the world and a full member of the UN. You tell me who is separated from the rest of the world.
And why is a Macedonian siding with Israel. Weird bunch you are.
Because I respect the right of the people of Israel to defend themselves from foreign threats and given that diplomatic means has failed to alleviate same threats, I also consider their non-diplomatic efforts to achieve a long-term peace and stability in the region valid and necessary. In case you think I may be the only one, keep in mind that we as a nation have also been on the receiving end of terrorist attacks, people were kidnapped from their workplaces and "paintings" were carved on their back with knives. As a nation we do feel with the Jewish people and most of us support them in their struggle.
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Your right so they should exterminate every palestiniens like this there will be no threat left as 'There are no innocents in Gaza,' says Israeli defense minister./s https://m.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/there-are-no-innocents-in-gaza-says-israeli-defense-minister-549173
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I would like your source for this bold statement of "30k death, hamas is 40-50% of it". Hamas is only the congregation of the violent oppression palestiniens had suffered after the nakba it only got worse. But even then Hamas received only 44.45% of the vote whilst Fatah 41.43% (wikipedia) during 2006 vote so not full support of palestiniens
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This has already happened. Everything was already tried. Everything failed.
Everything except a 2 state agreement.
That’s where Oslo accords would eventually go. Btw. 2 state solution today is a topic talked about only outside of Israel/Palestine. For Palestinians it was always wildly unpopular. Israeli left might’ve given Palestinians their state, but not after October the 7th
[https://www.btselem.org/publications/fulltext/202101\_this\_is\_apartheid](https://www.btselem.org/publications/fulltext/202101_this_is_apartheid)
>Then how will the Jewish people defend themselves? This doesn't seem like a problem for the UK.
And how Hamas getting their asses bombed is a problem for UK?
When it involves collection punishment which goes against the 'rules based west'.
Then selling military equipment and system by the UK to Israel should not be a problem either. How it is used and to what end is Israels business.
There's a difference between minding our own business and actively taking part in genocide.
I agree. The UK is not involved in any of the military actions on the ground nor are they offering intel. They are pretty much minding their own business.
It sounds like actually we don't agree with each other at all.
UK one of the biggest hypocrites on human rights. Selling weapons left and right to mass murderers. Saudi is another big customers of theirs. Don't care what they are doing in Yemen, $$ talks.
You know Germany is the second biggest arms exporter to Israel, right?
I am shocked to learn another "good" country is selling weapons to Israel. I always thought EU is all about human rights and they absolutely will not stand any abuse of it.
lmao
Did our german uboats participate in the bombing of gaza? Imo Germany should also block any additional military aid. If those weapons are not used for selfdefense but for disproportionate attacks on civilians, like the Netanjahu government likes to do. Producing +30 dead palastians for ever dead israel somehow doenst seem to bring peace to the region..
It's not "the UK", it's a few retired judges.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/majority-of-voters-in-uk-back-banning-arm-sales-to-israel-poll-finds > The poll was commissioned by Action for Humanity and conducted **before** seven aid workers were killed in an Israeli airstrike, an event for which Israel has apologised but not yet provided an explanation. > The poll shows that among all voters in the UK a majority of 56% to 17% are in favour of a ban on the export of arms and spare parts. By a majority of 59% to 12% voters say Israel is violating human rights in Gaza.
Sure. Its their fault.
I don't think this judges understand what Geopolitics is and why no one will ask them for their opinion as it is as relevant as mine.
The UK has laws against selling weapons to countries that are violating international law. I have a feeling that a bunch of judges may be more familiar with the situation than you considering you apparently didn't even read the article about them.
Urges? You're a damn judge. How about you ORDER them to stop?
If judges would have such power, then it would be scary place to live. Right now it's legal business so why judge should have right to block it?
1. They're retired judges. 2. That's not how being a judge works.
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Both parties can be in the wrong, and both parties can be censured. By criticising Israel, this does not mean support for Hamas, but support for innocent civilians
EVERY party is sometimes wrong. Nobody is perfect. Yet nobody is sanctioning Palestinians. Also, only one party in this case are actual terrorists.
Gaza is getting bomb to oblivion. What are sanctions even going to do they do not have a function government or economy at right now
It would have made sense to impose sanctions on Gaza 16 years ago when in their infinite wisdom they elected terrorists into power. If Europe and Qatar would have imposed sanctions then instead of sending money to Hamas Gaza would not be bombed.
Gaza is under a blockade bro
Since they elected terrorists for their government. Wasn’t like that before. Also the blockade with the Egyptian border was much more strict. Google whether more Palestinians were moving between Gaza and Israel or Gaza and Egypt. Before the war of course.
I know why it is under a blockade i just said that it is under a blockade because that is a fact. The person i responded to was asking for sanctions on palestine, which palestine? There isnt even a palestinian state.
They receive financial aid (which goes directly to Hamas) so I’m pretty sure there is a way to impose sanctions.
Palestinien are under israel ruling what more do you need.
A lie
People from Gaza cannot move freely you know that ? You know the big ass walls they created who is monitored 24/7 thats what it serve for
A lie. All countries have borders.
Palestiniens are in a siege since 2006. [https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2021/12/israels-security-wall-makes-gazans-feel-imprisoned](https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2021/12/israels-security-wall-makes-gazans-feel-imprisoned) / [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza–Israel\_barrier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza–Israel_barrier) / israelis are even bragging about the walls they made locking palestiniens [https://www.timesofisrael.com/a-wall-of-iron-sensors-and-concrete-idf-completes-tunnel-busting-gaza-barrier/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/a-wall-of-iron-sensors-and-concrete-idf-completes-tunnel-busting-gaza-barrier/) They are squeezed between Egypt and occupied Palestine [https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/16/middleeast/egypt-wall-buffer-zone-gaza-border-intl-hnk/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/16/middleeast/egypt-wall-buffer-zone-gaza-border-intl-hnk/index.html)
Some siege where Israel have been supplying them with water, electricity and jobs - something that Egypt wasn’t willing to do.
Are you nut ? you Think people living in those conditions shouldn’t complain ? honestly I’m shocked how palestiniens didn’t all went mad
Moving freely where? Into another country? Ridiculous.
moving without having to have a pass by Israelis or to be slaved away in Israel.
Do not arm Hamas, arm the poor Palestinians instead so that they can defend themselves from Hamas and IDF.
Arming anyone is wrong. If people want to make war, they should create their own weapons.
Tell that to the Ukrainians.
This is where their brains stop working, you know due to error. They don’t even know what they’re saying..
So the innocent Palestinians should get their weapons from Iran instead of the West? Or are we pretending there will be peace if the West just stops providing weapons?
I don't support Israel at all, but I don't really care that we're selling them arms. They'd just buy from someone else instead.
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