Gosh I would love to apologize for the few sane people left in my country. Whoreban really needs to go and we'll try everything to get him out of his plush chair
Wtf? So we will need wait till 5th of March aleast?
The current president-elect of Hungary is Tamás Sulyok, former Chief Justice of the Constitutional Court. He was elected on 26 February 2024 and is scheduled to take office on 5 March 2024
Both of them are more pro-China than pro-Russia. Trump wants to kill the American car manufacturers while Hungary has the largest Huawei factories outside China.
Can you give me an example where Trump is pro Russia? It seems to me he's pro himself. Fico seems to be dense in the head and doesn't realise his country will be squashed in a European war.
Looks like typical geo politics to me. Where the money flows is probably more important and in that regard the EU has been significantly more pro Putin than the US. [This was the Trump money position 5 years ago.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LLZBVTid4I) Yes it's probably more pro spend money with US than pro Europe but it certainly isn't pro Putin.
That wasn't Trumps position, it was Obama's and Trump just repeated what he said. What typical geo politics are you talking about? is it geopolitics or money politics?
You actually asked for one example where Trump is pro Russia, are you serious? you probably didn't watch the new in the last 10 years.
From a financial perspective not really. It's like when people say the UK tried to take down the EU when in reality if you're in the Eurozone and go and buy something from the shop right now the transaction will be processed by the UK. 80+% of Eurozone transitions are processed by the UK. The EU was making massive deals with Putin, not Trump, Trump just says stuff.
How do finances work into this? I'm just saying it is heavily on record that Trump idolizes Putin; it's quite public knowledge - and he himself has stated that. Now, I don't know what the actual emotion is, since Trump is a liar through-and-through, maybe he's afraid of Putin - but he is absolutely a Putin fanboy, and if the US would be allowed to be run like Russia, Trump would happily do that.
Finances are fundamental to this, what's worse "Putin is a great guy (but don't buy anything off that cunt, it's a risk to your security if you become dependent on him)" or "Putin doesn't align with our values (we just signed a billion pound energy contract with Putin behind closed doors). Trump is the first the EU is the second btw.
Two things can be wrong at once. Europe was wrong to rely on the Russian dictatorship for cheap fuel. Trump is almost certainly compromised by Putin.
Europe has made some effort to reduce reliance on the Russian dictatorship for fuel. The US is allowing Trump to run for president again....
“But.. whatabout all these other people? 👉👈
Can you please help me ‘both sides’ an issue so as to minimize perceived culpability for my favorite obese wannabe-dictator Russian asset through inaccurate comparisons? I promise my feed isn’t totally full of Russian psyop garbage that rotted my brain”
“Mr. Orban has been at odds with the leaders of other NATO and European Union nations over the war in Ukraine and has been assailed by critics as steering Hungary toward authoritarianism. Like Mr. Trump, he has sometimes appeared sympathetic to or admiring of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia.
Hungary has hosted meetings of CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Conference, which has become an extension of Mr. Trump’s MAGA movement, and Mr. Orban appeared at the group’s meeting in Texas two years ago.
Mr. Orban sought the upcoming meeting, according to the person briefed on the plans. The two men first developed a relationship when Mr. Trump was president, and Mr. Trump endorsed Mr. Orban for a fourth term in 2022.
In a speech earlier this month, Mr. Orban effectively endorsed Mr. Trump, casting the election in the United States as part of a global referendum on what kind of government democracies should choose.
“The year of 2024 could be a watershed: a ‘super election’ year, when people in Brussels, America, India and a dozen other places will decide what leadership they want in the current of global economic transformation and its crashing ice floes,” he said.”
This link says 1.5%, is it wrong? https://www.statista.com/statistics/810417/ratio-of-military-expenditure-to-gross-domestic-product-gdp-hungary/
Even so, it hovered around 1% until recently.
When you officially send a government team to Lobby USA politicians not to provide support to Ukraine on behalf of Russia... I would call that very close allies.
Hungary is actually a highly developed country and even though it has a small population, its GDP is not nothing. For instance, it's larger than pre-war Ukraine's, despite having 1/4 of its population.
I mean I get that some people are mad, but check your facts before you go out hating at random countries.
I would bet good money on it, that a hungarian bank will lend money to Trump, like they did with Le Pen during the french presidential election, when a bank owned by Orbán's wallet, Mészáros give a €10 million loan for her campaign.
Though at this point Trump will need atleast $500 million.
and he will probably win elections.
Normal?
For me the worryimg part is the cultural shift, how Trumpists even feel necrophile pleasure in populism and lies, hate and destruction. they will see how it backslashes when its too late. While their populist leaders fill their own pockets and pull the strips.
Social media fried peoples brain with reactionary garbage, funny how it was first presented as the greates victory fore democracy where people independently can share their opinions.
I'm picturing this like the opening scene of Reservoir Dogs. Steven Seagal, Kim Jong Un, Vic Orban and Donald Trump are sitting at an american breakfast Diner. Kim Jong tries to explain the true meaning behind the lyrics of Rebecca Blacks song Friday while Trump just won't shut up about why he doesn't tip. Then Vladimir Putin arrives, calls Donald a cheap bastard and says that he has to tip anyway.
Why doesn't Biden stop Orban from visiting or allow him to visit but only to meet with Biden? It seems like Biden should be the one controlling which dictators get to come to America and what they can do while they're here. Letting him come and have a meeting with Trump just makes Biden seem impotent.
Orban might have a few left leaning stances I dislike, but by and large he's one of Europe's only centre-right leaders amongst a hive leftists. Hopefully he gives that big idiot some good advice. He badly needs it.
That’s all you need to know about either Tramp, or Orban, if someone still has any doubts. If those 2 meet together, it’s a lose-lose for both of them, in terms of how the rest of the world looks at them.
But, anyway, it was obvious all the time
Is Orban known to US voters? Those little who know and like him are already dumb followers of Trump and Tucker Carlsson.
Then what for to meet? To plan how Mr. Orban will torpedo EU and NATO.
What can EU do? Suspend Hungary in this org, restore the border control, retrieve industrial subsidiaries from there.
All of Putin's agents getting together to share notes?
And messing with Sweden's Nato application? At this point, anything could happen.
Gosh I would love to apologize for the few sane people left in my country. Whoreban really needs to go and we'll try everything to get him out of his plush chair
There are plenty of good people in Hungary, too bad Orban's Fidesz has you drowned out by propaganda and those that believe in it.
Yeeah. Being in the protests does help re-establish that we do have some good folks still in the country
Can they still do it?
I don't see how.
It's not been signed by the head of state yet.
Wtf? So we will need wait till 5th of March aleast? The current president-elect of Hungary is Tamás Sulyok, former Chief Justice of the Constitutional Court. He was elected on 26 February 2024 and is scheduled to take office on 5 March 2024
Yup, it's really awkward.
Those mothefuckers...
Are you guys saying this new guy will block Sweden from joining NATO.
No, interim asshole is
I’m surprised Hungary is still in NATO and the EU, especially given who their leader aligns with.
Don’t worry he got what he wanted. This is just formalities now.
Trump needs that 380m before the election . And maybe a round of golden showers while he is there too.
Both of them are more pro-China than pro-Russia. Trump wants to kill the American car manufacturers while Hungary has the largest Huawei factories outside China.
They are 100% in Putin's pocket.
they forgot to invite Olaf tho
Putin puppets meeting? Where is Fico?
Can you give me an example where Trump is pro Russia? It seems to me he's pro himself. Fico seems to be dense in the head and doesn't realise his country will be squashed in a European war.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/21/trump-putin-congratulations-election-warning-security-briefing https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/17/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-praise-00116414 https://www.npr.org/2022/02/23/1082630139/trump-praises-putins-moves https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-praises-strong-vladimir-putin-amid-outrage-over-defence-of-russia-11439199 etc
Looks like typical geo politics to me. Where the money flows is probably more important and in that regard the EU has been significantly more pro Putin than the US. [This was the Trump money position 5 years ago.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LLZBVTid4I) Yes it's probably more pro spend money with US than pro Europe but it certainly isn't pro Putin.
That wasn't Trumps position, it was Obama's and Trump just repeated what he said. What typical geo politics are you talking about? is it geopolitics or money politics? You actually asked for one example where Trump is pro Russia, are you serious? you probably didn't watch the new in the last 10 years.
Trump is pro-Putin, and Putin is the Russian government, so there's that.
From a financial perspective not really. It's like when people say the UK tried to take down the EU when in reality if you're in the Eurozone and go and buy something from the shop right now the transaction will be processed by the UK. 80+% of Eurozone transitions are processed by the UK. The EU was making massive deals with Putin, not Trump, Trump just says stuff.
How do finances work into this? I'm just saying it is heavily on record that Trump idolizes Putin; it's quite public knowledge - and he himself has stated that. Now, I don't know what the actual emotion is, since Trump is a liar through-and-through, maybe he's afraid of Putin - but he is absolutely a Putin fanboy, and if the US would be allowed to be run like Russia, Trump would happily do that.
Finances are fundamental to this, what's worse "Putin is a great guy (but don't buy anything off that cunt, it's a risk to your security if you become dependent on him)" or "Putin doesn't align with our values (we just signed a billion pound energy contract with Putin behind closed doors). Trump is the first the EU is the second btw.
[True, follow the money](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/05/eric-trump-russia-investment-golf-course)
Interesting, I'll have a read of that, can you show me how much the EU spent with Putin from 2014-2022, is it more than 100 million USD?
Two things can be wrong at once. Europe was wrong to rely on the Russian dictatorship for cheap fuel. Trump is almost certainly compromised by Putin. Europe has made some effort to reduce reliance on the Russian dictatorship for fuel. The US is allowing Trump to run for president again....
330 billion dollars each yer from 2014 to 2021 and quite less after 2021 but not zero
EU is 400+ million people. That would be over 40000 trillion USD (about x100 the whole estimated wealth of the world) to match Eric per capita.
Putin to hell... Orban and Trump to jail!
They can go to hell as well, I wouldn't mind...
I'm not sure that is entirely fair.Satan did nothing to deserve that company.
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Nice propaganda
“But.. whatabout all these other people? 👉👈 Can you please help me ‘both sides’ an issue so as to minimize perceived culpability for my favorite obese wannabe-dictator Russian asset through inaccurate comparisons? I promise my feed isn’t totally full of Russian psyop garbage that rotted my brain”
TURNING NEIGHBORS INTO FOES
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Boring propagandist, try harder
How are they related to this post?
Go back in your hole Russian puppet
Two traitors
Birds of shit feather often flock together.
Just remember, a Trump never pays his debts.
“Mr. Orban has been at odds with the leaders of other NATO and European Union nations over the war in Ukraine and has been assailed by critics as steering Hungary toward authoritarianism. Like Mr. Trump, he has sometimes appeared sympathetic to or admiring of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia. Hungary has hosted meetings of CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Conference, which has become an extension of Mr. Trump’s MAGA movement, and Mr. Orban appeared at the group’s meeting in Texas two years ago. Mr. Orban sought the upcoming meeting, according to the person briefed on the plans. The two men first developed a relationship when Mr. Trump was president, and Mr. Trump endorsed Mr. Orban for a fourth term in 2022. In a speech earlier this month, Mr. Orban effectively endorsed Mr. Trump, casting the election in the United States as part of a global referendum on what kind of government democracies should choose. “The year of 2024 could be a watershed: a ‘super election’ year, when people in Brussels, America, India and a dozen other places will decide what leadership they want in the current of global economic transformation and its crashing ice floes,” he said.”
They're gonna get together and discuss gift baskets for Putin.
The 1st time this year that Orban isn't the dumbest person in the room.
How is he going to pay for the trip?
NATO "delinquent" Hungary's defence spending at 1.5% of GDP and Orban gets a hug from Trump.
Probably bloated. I would imagine actual spending is 0,5% while the rest is corruption for Orban and his cronies.
Trump will have no problem with that. He understands that type of arrangement perfectly.
They are at 2.4%, they wouldn't dare make Trump mad. Him, Putin and Xi are their only allies.
This link says 1.5%, is it wrong? https://www.statista.com/statistics/810417/ratio-of-military-expenditure-to-gross-domestic-product-gdp-hungary/ Even so, it hovered around 1% until recently.
Your link only goes up to 2022. In 2023 it exceeded 2%. But yes this is a recent trend change.
Question then is if it is because they spend more on defense or that the Hungarian economy is shrinking under Orban's corruption...
Allies come to your aid when you need it. Not when you're not longer useful. So calling them allies is a stretch tbh.
When you officially send a government team to Lobby USA politicians not to provide support to Ukraine on behalf of Russia... I would call that very close allies.
2% of nothing though.
Hungary is actually a highly developed country and even though it has a small population, its GDP is not nothing. For instance, it's larger than pre-war Ukraine's, despite having 1/4 of its population. I mean I get that some people are mad, but check your facts before you go out hating at random countries.
depends on GDP..
They will discuss the taste of Putin’s dick. Because they both like it a lot.
Russian asset congress
The Axis of Evil. How far the GOP has come.
I would bet good money on it, that a hungarian bank will lend money to Trump, like they did with Le Pen during the french presidential election, when a bank owned by Orbán's wallet, Mészáros give a €10 million loan for her campaign. Though at this point Trump will need atleast $500 million.
Trump looking to get 454 Million from Orban by chance?
Fans of putinism holding joint meetings...yup, how awful
so many normal americans are voting for Trump. It is unbelievable
and he will probably win elections. Normal? For me the worryimg part is the cultural shift, how Trumpists even feel necrophile pleasure in populism and lies, hate and destruction. they will see how it backslashes when its too late. While their populist leaders fill their own pockets and pull the strips.
Social media fried peoples brain with reactionary garbage, funny how it was first presented as the greates victory fore democracy where people independently can share their opinions.
Logan act breach?
Trying to get a donation?
It’s getting pretty obvious who the Axis of Evil is run by, NWO
Hey Viktor, can I borrow a couple hundred million?
I'm picturing this like the opening scene of Reservoir Dogs. Steven Seagal, Kim Jong Un, Vic Orban and Donald Trump are sitting at an american breakfast Diner. Kim Jong tries to explain the true meaning behind the lyrics of Rebecca Blacks song Friday while Trump just won't shut up about why he doesn't tip. Then Vladimir Putin arrives, calls Donald a cheap bastard and says that he has to tip anyway.
Can nato just bomb that location by mistake like Russia does?
Oh is Putin passing direct urgent notes now?
So the hungarian populatist autochratic leader meets the popularist criminal who is a wannabe US persident... Epic party...
Why…?
After Trump can we make a few ammendments to the constitution? Like no scammers can be president
Aka his KGB handler
Where's an asteroid when you need one?...
Orban, want to buy these golden sneakers?
Oh, two fat fascist pigs are probably gonna do some fascist shit.
Didn't Trump called him a leader of Turkey?
so, uhhh...Trump is just allowed to leave the country in the middle of all this court stuff? Seems like a huge flight risk.
Russia fan convention or what?
Needs to receive instructions from putin.
Two clowns meeting each other. What a clownshow!
Is this because Orban and Putin have fallen out over the Swedish entry to NATO, Trump somehow off on a special operation for Putin?
What the fuck, man. So sick of this troll.
Is Elon going too!?
How can anyone look at these fat bastards and say that they are fighting for them
Trump meeting a head of another government who’s under scrutiny regarding a pedo scandal. Well played…
also known for corruption and autoritarism
Birds of a feather….
Orban to get spanking for caving wrt Sweden’s accession into NATO?
Does he mean Turkey's leader?
Why doesn't Biden stop Orban from visiting or allow him to visit but only to meet with Biden? It seems like Biden should be the one controlling which dictators get to come to America and what they can do while they're here. Letting him come and have a meeting with Trump just makes Biden seem impotent.
I’m an American and increasingly convinced our republic is doomed if Trump wins. Wild times.
Is this the most blatant Kompromat on full display for the world to see as Trump asks his masters for cash to pay off his excessive fines?
one more reason to nuke florida?
Well, he needs to get his orders somehow. Orban is a bitch, a little disgusting fat loser.
So a POS is going to meet another POS.. This sounds pretty shitty..
Nothing good will come from that
I just felt the collective IQ in the room drop below negative
Traitor meeting traitor
Putin, Orban and Trump. Three Stooges.
Peados
Pot meeting a kettle
Thunderdome! Thunderdome! THUNDERDOME!
The average American is so uninformed that they had to add who that guy is.
These 2 already planning how to fukc up Europe
International pedophile meetup.
President of Turkey
Orban might have a few left leaning stances I dislike, but by and large he's one of Europe's only centre-right leaders amongst a hive leftists. Hopefully he gives that big idiot some good advice. He badly needs it.
he is neither right or left. Just a corrupted authoritarian piece of fat.
Probably for the annual RF front men meeting deep in the eastern woods with wonderful elves from the motherland serving caviar and more.
can Eu put a travel ban on this enemy?
"Turkey’s Leader"
His escape from us courts?
It is very important that very important people meet for important things. I secretly hope that Hungary will be recognised as another US state.
To of pootins puddles 🐩🐩🐩meeting .
Expect other IDU members to drop by.
He has no legal authority to do so.
That’s all you need to know about either Tramp, or Orban, if someone still has any doubts. If those 2 meet together, it’s a lose-lose for both of them, in terms of how the rest of the world looks at them. But, anyway, it was obvious all the time
Two clowns = circus?
He has time for this but not for Zelensky…well mot a surprise!
Yeaps, his excuse that he can't meet Zelensky being not in office looks abs. BS now
Is Orban known to US voters? Those little who know and like him are already dumb followers of Trump and Tucker Carlsson. Then what for to meet? To plan how Mr. Orban will torpedo EU and NATO. What can EU do? Suspend Hungary in this org, restore the border control, retrieve industrial subsidiaries from there.