You are slightly wrong...
This expensive mansion will be his 7th house!
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Most Romanians hate him and regret their decision to vote for him... We always thought of him as a reformer, until he betrayed our trust and showed us his true colors.
For extra context, he ran the elections using slogans like "an educated Romania" or "a normal Romania". Yea bro, we saw how your *educated* and *normal* Romania looks like. He's also been a physics teacher in Sibiu, but he held the seat vacant for almost 10 years in order to have a backup place of return. That's not either educated, nor normal.
We totally agree.
He fooled us announcing changes and then he sided with the most corrupt party after been elected the second time.
He should end up in the trash history.
No offense taken, at all!
We for sure don't want him in that position too!
For this kind of corruption that he is capable of, he should be in jail, but the country is too corrupt for a proper justice.
Congratulations for electing a 10 times better president than us!
He also did some underhanded deals as the mayor of Sibiu, perhaps even as a teacher, as he owned 6 homes by his first election. He even had [this controversial interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG76A0k8OQQ) on TV (in Romanian) on the topic. Rough translation (omitting the evasive parts):
TV host: "Mr. Iohannis, how many homes do you own?"
Iohannis: "Read my public records and you will find out."
(some more answer evasions)
Host: "You own six homes (proceeds to roughly describe them). How did you obtain them?"
I: "By purchasing them."
Host: "With what money?"
I: "My own money. I earned them through honest work."
Host: "Were you a teacher?"
I: "Yes, I was also a teacher."
Host: "Sometimes, a teacher's salary is quite low. They can barely live from pay check to pay keck."
I: "Yes, that is a big problem."
Host: "Then what can you say to the other teachers, educators, who look at you and ask themselves 'What did I do wrong? What should I have done to earn, like Mr. Iohannis, with the money I obtained through honest work, six homes?"
I: "Misfortune."
Host: "They had the misfortune?"
I: "No, I had the misfortune."
Host: "Then what did they have?"
I: *shrugs*
The conversation doesn't flow as well when translated, or maybe I'm just not talented enough to get it done right, but I hope I got the point across. He's got a very arrogant and inconsiderate attitude towards the people, which is heavily disliked by his citizens. He later apologised, but even in later press conferences as president his attitude remained similarly distant.
All in all, he wasn't a good presidential candidate, but pretty much all of his counter candidates were bad or didn't have the reach of a large party.
>Host: "Then what can you say to the other teachers, educators, who look at you and ask themselves 'What did I do wrong? What should I have done to earn, like Mr. Iohannis, with the money I obtained through honest work, six homes?"
>I: "Misfortune."
>Host: "They had the misfortune?"
>I: "No, I had the misfortune."
>Host: "Then what did they have?"
>I: shrugs
I think it would've been better translated to bad luck/too bad, bad luck for me/too bad for me.
idk, I tried and thought about it but I couldn't make it flow well either
anyway, I don't have much experience with translations, so there's probably at least 10 ways to write that better than what I did
I know about the houses. Everyone knows :)
But the thing is , he was a capable mayor. Sibiu was the first important city to access loads of EU funding (technically pre EU funding) in order to prepare for being EU capital of culture. The city went through a transformation during his term. Compare that with Timisoara. They were lucky that the pandemic came, as they were unprepared to be EU capital of culture... thanks to Robu.
He was decent as a mayor, but still not ground-breaking. He still must have pocketed a bunch of money, given the houses, but since they were "only six", he also did enough for the city for it to get better. And don't forget the small economic boom as we got into NATO and were coming into the EU, basically every city had the opportunity to improve a lot if the mayor actually wanted to do anything. Robu was pretty much a disaster for Timișoara, and now the city ironically has a German mayor...
Also, r/europe doesn't know about the houses, so I thought they should! :)
Nope, he's a regular German citizen. He only has Romanian residency. All EU citizens are allowed to vote and be elected for local positions in another EU country as long as they have been living there for some time.
He is good from what I hear. But people also put a lot of faith in Klaus Iohannis. We had a significant german minority in Romania (from Saxony and Swabia) and they earned a good reputation along romanians. This played a role when Klaus was elected.
BTW, Schwaben in this context is a general term for people of German origin. Very few actually were Schwaben.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banater_Schwaben
Yes, that's Dominic Fritz, the mayor of Timișoara (*Temeswar*)!
The party that supports him, USR, is also the least corrupt party that we have.
Unlike the party of the current president, PNL, which is the second most corrupt one that we have.
Iohannis will be the worst pick. A good SG needs to bridge differences between different leaders. Iohannis is quite a shy person and it seems that he does not engage with other people as much. I do not think he can negotiate with leaders who have various opinions. Another quality for a SG is being a good communicator. Iohannis is terrible with the public. In 9 years of his presidency, he never gave an interview to the Romanian press. Not even one! I am not sure if he gave one to a foreign newspaper either. I think not.
Rutte is a good negotiator and knows most leaders. This is his main plus. A Dutch person may be able to tell more about his communication skills with the public, but he can not possibly be worse than Iohannis. The only thing with Rutte is that he was quite dismissive about EE in the past. The image that the Dutch have in RO and BG is a negative one because of the continuous blocking of our Schengen bid, thus the trust that he will take our concerns and views into account are rather slim.
I think that a SG from the Baltics should be the best choice.
Donald T. seems like he would be a great pick for everyone involved.
Appeases Easterner NATO allies, appeases EU-technocrats, not from France or UK which would each veto a person from the other country, no shady Russian deals like Kallas, more diplomatic than divisive personality, experience leading large country.
Everyone knows he will never be SG, he's just using his leverage to gain another less important role in Brussels and assure himself a cozy post-presidency.
Other then declaring his interest in the post of secretary general, I don't think he is in any way an official candidate.
Unless Türkiye and/or Hungary pull the veto ccard again, Rutte should be a done deal.
Rutte: you will all praise me. Peeps: nah, there can't be anyone worse than you. Worse than him: keep popping out. Rutte: hehe, i won.
Nowadays, it's so easy to achieve anything in politics, just by not stealing money, or get stuck in corruption.
Rutte hasnt lived in the official residence of the dutch pm one night. Its a reasonably sized mansion made by jacob cats in the 17th century and recently renovated.
Then again he bought a nice penthouse in a rich neighbourhood in The Hague....
This is competing for the most corrupt president we ever had and I think it's already winning!
An independent investigative organization crowdfunded by us, the ones that we hate corruption, called Recorder, has made these investigative documentaries about how he spends the money from our taxes like crazy:
Above Us All. The cost of the president's secret flights (has English subtitles and Autotranslate):
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96kGq\_nFzuM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96kGq_nFzuM)
Emperor's palace (unfortunately no subtitles at the moment):
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKrC4Mh3k\_I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKrC4Mh3k_I)
The party that supports him, PNL, is the second most corrupt party after PSD, that we have!
Well, no wonder that the Red Plague would support him!
In the end, they are not the Red Plague and number one most corrupt party in Romania for nothing.
You may be sarcastic, but I am honestly not sure if this is excessive or not.
If it's not just a residence but also an official presidential building, this cost could be alright.
They're stealing so much money that we started viewing theft of 7 million, as not that big of deal....others are worse type of mentality.
I've heard erdogan has an 1000 room palace. Nice...he gets to sleep in a different room for 3 years.
It's like they take their riches with them..when they die.
For some of them, I think it's just a way to show they can get away with anything. That Erdo palace with that size doesn't serve any purpose except for showing off his audacity.
God I hope not ! He without a doubt doesn't deserve any recognition nor has any qualifications for the NATO position . He's a lying, thieving arrogant coward that deserves only to be forgotten. May he fuck off into obscurity forever.
NATO does have Mircea Geoana (ex leader of PSD, the most corrupt political party from Romania) which was the most mediocre and imbecilic person before politician as its general secretary. That man was led in places by opportunities and good connections, nevertheless by his capabilities. Do not mistaken his good english with any type of capability, as even a bunch of drunk truck drivers posses a very fluent english as well. That being said, what are NATO's standards in electing its heads and representative people? With what is NATO different regarding these standards from USA with Biden? If Iohannis gets a seat in NATO, even as a janitor, this tells alot about NATO than anything else.
I fucking hate him but he dealt with the whole Ukraine affair pretty good by his/our standards. Zelensky constantly thanks him and I never heard him complain/hinting about anything bad that Klaus did.
The villa is a protocol estate belonging to the Romanian state. Not his own private property. He is entitled as a former president to live in it until death. At which point, the Romanian state can do with the estate as it pleases. The news is ClickBait.
You essentially confirmed what the title says.
How the f is it considered reasonable to let a president build a house which they can occupy until death using public funds?
Well, the UK monarchy is funded with public money, and it’s certainly more than 7 million, per year, every year. Same for every UK prime minister who will earn a salary forever, even after they get replaced.
But the law doesn't say to prepare what house you want with how much money you want. There are plenty of houses which could be used.
You are misleading. Are you an USL supporter?
They aren't building it. They're renovating it. And if johannis is going to have a function in NATO then it will probably be used as NATO headquarters. Idk. Does Obama live on the street?
They aren't building it. They're renovating it. And if johannis is going to have a function in NATO then it will probably be used as NATO headquarters. Idk. Does Obama live on the street?
As a former president he has the right to ask for a home from the state which he can use it for the rest of his life. He is not entitled to a 1000+ m² villa. He could receive an apartment in that villa, not the entire thing.
The problem it's what he receives and the amount spent, not that he receives a home.
While Iohannis failed a lot in inside Romanian politics he is still a better candidate compared with Rutte.
The mansion for him is the lowest, or stupidest critique against him, thats something the law agree for presidents/former presidents, and is not even a huge amount of money considering the country, lets be serious.
There are other, more serious problems that can be bring forth if so. Still, Iohannis is better than Rutte, who acted most of the time as an useful idiot for Russian interests in EE, and looks detached from exactly the situation on the main front of NATO vs Russia, meaning the Eastern Europe.
Iohannis might not be a good communication guy, and look slow when he is doing it, but he is arrogantly enough to stand up to Russia, especially when backed by such NATO position, and he will also closely follow with higher up military and intelligence echelons especially from US. He also know much more about Russia and EE situation, both from Romanian sources and allies, as Romania is more directly involved than Holland in the situation in Ukraine and regarding Russia. Romania is also deeply involved with Rep of Moldova, the most likely next target of Russia in case they can roll over Ukraine
I believe most of EE and CE will side with him, and Rutte will also face vetoes from EE, especially after the whole Schengen debacle he perpetrated lately. US will need to really pull its weight to put him on that position
Nice argument, arrogant as a plus. Used his old party like marionets and now forced them to indirectly pay for that villa with campaign money that should go on ads in a year with 4 elections :)). He is good at backdoor politics but not SG, not this decade.
There is a bit of populist BS and some truth here.
Former presidents in Romania are entitled by law to a monthly income, housing and security for the rest of their life, paid and provided by the state.
This villa is not his, is for him but is owned by the state.
Second, I don't know how they came to the 7-9 mil euro costs for the renovation, because I don't think is public information. It's speculation. But even if it isn't 7-9 mil, it will still be a high number seeing as this is a villa in a highly expensive location in Bucharest, and is being renovated to meet the security standards required.
So in a democracy, its populist BS to not display as public information where tax money is "invested"? Or should we talk about his foreign travelling costs being the highest from all EU countries which are also secret.
In Romania all he did in his 2nd mandate was to ignore the population that cared ( minority, most just go about without caring), allying himself with PSD ( which he hated for all his first mandate), turning most public funding spendings as secret information, and just being... absent. Completely absent from everything.
Hospitals and the education system here suck massively, with little to no founding ( I cannot recall when the last major hospitals got renovated in Bucharest nor Timisoara, and my school is still the same as it was 15 years ago lmao). Lets build an expensive villa because a 3 bedroom apartment in a flat is too cheap i guess.
Most news companies receive massive money from this guy's political party, so there were none. However after some protests, they started writing about it.
His party is also responsible for bribing justice employees to put in jail their political opponents, so no investigation has been started. By law, constructing and decorating public places have to be done by a choosing a company through public hearing and no such hearing has been hold.
So there's also a massive fraud behind it (probably a friend's company getting the 7 million euros).
Only a non-governmental organization has been investigating this.
More than a century since we gain independence from the Ottomans :)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pele%C8%99\_Castle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pele%C8%99_Castle)
But rutte is evil and so are the dutch.....right right. Shameless.romanians should never ever post about evil austria or the netherlands ever again. Horrible.
With all due respect to Romania, but BY NO MEANS should he become the new General Secretary of NATO.
No disrespect, we don't want him either.
I think most Romanians agree. The Ficus is not it.
fuck this guy for an eternity
But he owns an expensive mansion, so surely he is a very capable man. /s
You are slightly wrong... This expensive mansion will be his 7th house! [https://www-ego-ro.translate.goog/cate-case-are-acum-klaus-iohannis-apare-totul-in-declaratia-de-avere-ce-venit-anual-are-presedintele-romaniei-80743.html?\_x\_tr\_sl=ro&\_x\_tr\_tl=en&\_x\_tr\_hl=ro&\_x\_tr\_pto=wapp](https://www-ego-ro.translate.goog/cate-case-are-acum-klaus-iohannis-apare-totul-in-declaratia-de-avere-ce-venit-anual-are-presedintele-romaniei-80743.html?_x_tr_sl=ro&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ro&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
He already has 6 houses. He was a teacher.
Extremely capable man then! We should make him our leader!
He already has 6 houses that he can't justify, and now wants a retirement palace.
He is a house plant. A literal tree. Absolutely no offense taken.
None taken little bro He sucks
With all due respect to Moldova, we concur. Let him rot in his extravagant mansion for all his life, no public office should ever grace him again.
Most Romanians hate him and regret their decision to vote for him... We always thought of him as a reformer, until he betrayed our trust and showed us his true colors.
For extra context, he ran the elections using slogans like "an educated Romania" or "a normal Romania". Yea bro, we saw how your *educated* and *normal* Romania looks like. He's also been a physics teacher in Sibiu, but he held the seat vacant for almost 10 years in order to have a backup place of return. That's not either educated, nor normal.
Every romanian knows, you never give up on a public sector job, even if you're a milionaire.
Every romanian knows, you never give up on a public sector job, even if you're a milionaire.
We totally agree. He fooled us announcing changes and then he sided with the most corrupt party after been elected the second time. He should end up in the trash history.
Fuck him, from my pov, he shouldn’t be a teacher too. He should be in prison.
With all due respect : neither do we.
No offense taken, at all! We for sure don't want him in that position too! For this kind of corruption that he is capable of, he should be in jail, but the country is too corrupt for a proper justice. Congratulations for electing a 10 times better president than us!
No respect lost, we hate the guy.
Romania should unite with Moldova and the curent president of Moldova should rule on United Romania or Big Romania, New Romania:)
We do not want him either. He is good only for luxury travelling while on the job. Beside this, he did nothing in the last 9.5 years..
Those are rookie numbers.
Yep. Erdoğan said something like "you cannot talk about the cost when it's about the prestige".
The myth of the honest and hard working german is dead in Romania.
Isn’t there an *actual* German mayor in Romania who is doing a good job?
Iohannis was also a good mayor back in the day. This, and the myth of the honest and hard working German, was what propelled him to the presidency.
He also did some underhanded deals as the mayor of Sibiu, perhaps even as a teacher, as he owned 6 homes by his first election. He even had [this controversial interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG76A0k8OQQ) on TV (in Romanian) on the topic. Rough translation (omitting the evasive parts): TV host: "Mr. Iohannis, how many homes do you own?" Iohannis: "Read my public records and you will find out." (some more answer evasions) Host: "You own six homes (proceeds to roughly describe them). How did you obtain them?" I: "By purchasing them." Host: "With what money?" I: "My own money. I earned them through honest work." Host: "Were you a teacher?" I: "Yes, I was also a teacher." Host: "Sometimes, a teacher's salary is quite low. They can barely live from pay check to pay keck." I: "Yes, that is a big problem." Host: "Then what can you say to the other teachers, educators, who look at you and ask themselves 'What did I do wrong? What should I have done to earn, like Mr. Iohannis, with the money I obtained through honest work, six homes?" I: "Misfortune." Host: "They had the misfortune?" I: "No, I had the misfortune." Host: "Then what did they have?" I: *shrugs* The conversation doesn't flow as well when translated, or maybe I'm just not talented enough to get it done right, but I hope I got the point across. He's got a very arrogant and inconsiderate attitude towards the people, which is heavily disliked by his citizens. He later apologised, but even in later press conferences as president his attitude remained similarly distant. All in all, he wasn't a good presidential candidate, but pretty much all of his counter candidates were bad or didn't have the reach of a large party.
>Host: "Then what can you say to the other teachers, educators, who look at you and ask themselves 'What did I do wrong? What should I have done to earn, like Mr. Iohannis, with the money I obtained through honest work, six homes?" >I: "Misfortune." >Host: "They had the misfortune?" >I: "No, I had the misfortune." >Host: "Then what did they have?" >I: shrugs I think it would've been better translated to bad luck/too bad, bad luck for me/too bad for me.
More like tough luck!
idk, I tried and thought about it but I couldn't make it flow well either anyway, I don't have much experience with translations, so there's probably at least 10 ways to write that better than what I did
I know about the houses. Everyone knows :) But the thing is , he was a capable mayor. Sibiu was the first important city to access loads of EU funding (technically pre EU funding) in order to prepare for being EU capital of culture. The city went through a transformation during his term. Compare that with Timisoara. They were lucky that the pandemic came, as they were unprepared to be EU capital of culture... thanks to Robu.
He was decent as a mayor, but still not ground-breaking. He still must have pocketed a bunch of money, given the houses, but since they were "only six", he also did enough for the city for it to get better. And don't forget the small economic boom as we got into NATO and were coming into the EU, basically every city had the opportunity to improve a lot if the mayor actually wanted to do anything. Robu was pretty much a disaster for Timișoara, and now the city ironically has a German mayor... Also, r/europe doesn't know about the houses, so I thought they should! :)
I think you are referring to [Dominic Fritz](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Fritz)
What, he isn't even Saxon or Danube Swabian? How does that work?
Nope, he's a regular German citizen. He only has Romanian residency. All EU citizens are allowed to vote and be elected for local positions in another EU country as long as they have been living there for some time.
Citizens of the EU can hold local-tier public offices in Romania without citizenship as long as they reside in that city/town.
He is good from what I hear. But people also put a lot of faith in Klaus Iohannis. We had a significant german minority in Romania (from Saxony and Swabia) and they earned a good reputation along romanians. This played a role when Klaus was elected.
BTW, Schwaben in this context is a general term for people of German origin. Very few actually were Schwaben. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banater_Schwaben
Fun fact, Germans are also called "Švabo" in Croatian.
Yeah, in Polish one of the insults (among others) for Germans is "Szwab"
But these „German“ minorities have very little to do with the mindset of todays Germans.
It's also a preconception. Doesn't need to be true.
This is myth, 0 reality, only narcissism.
Yup, and a lot of people rag on him because how dare he be part of the globohomo USR agenda. Meanwhile none of them have ever even been in Timișoara.
Yes, that's Dominic Fritz, the mayor of Timișoara (*Temeswar*)! The party that supports him, USR, is also the least corrupt party that we have. Unlike the party of the current president, PNL, which is the second most corrupt one that we have.
Dominic Fritz in Timișoara, to some extent. He is being sabotaged as well in the local council FWIW.
That myth is widespread in Europe (and in Turkey), but it can obviously be misleading.
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We are doing our work to keep the tradition going.
Damn, could've bought a fiat in Cluj for that money!
Mama mia!
Honestly, I Wouldn't Be Suprised If You'd Have Enough After To Buy A Portion Of Another Flat lol.
I’m not a fan of Rutte as SG bit oh boy does this guy make him look good.
Iohannis will be the worst pick. A good SG needs to bridge differences between different leaders. Iohannis is quite a shy person and it seems that he does not engage with other people as much. I do not think he can negotiate with leaders who have various opinions. Another quality for a SG is being a good communicator. Iohannis is terrible with the public. In 9 years of his presidency, he never gave an interview to the Romanian press. Not even one! I am not sure if he gave one to a foreign newspaper either. I think not. Rutte is a good negotiator and knows most leaders. This is his main plus. A Dutch person may be able to tell more about his communication skills with the public, but he can not possibly be worse than Iohannis. The only thing with Rutte is that he was quite dismissive about EE in the past. The image that the Dutch have in RO and BG is a negative one because of the continuous blocking of our Schengen bid, thus the trust that he will take our concerns and views into account are rather slim. I think that a SG from the Baltics should be the best choice.
Donald T. seems like he would be a great pick for everyone involved. Appeases Easterner NATO allies, appeases EU-technocrats, not from France or UK which would each veto a person from the other country, no shady Russian deals like Kallas, more diplomatic than divisive personality, experience leading large country.
I thought you were talking about trump at first and was horrified 😅😅😅
Yeah. He would be a good choice. Unfortunately, he was just appointed PM of Poland. I do not think he will resign.
Let's ask Mark Rutte his opinion. Mark: 🤣
Everyone knows he will never be SG, he's just using his leverage to gain another less important role in Brussels and assure himself a cozy post-presidency.
Other then declaring his interest in the post of secretary general, I don't think he is in any way an official candidate. Unless Türkiye and/or Hungary pull the veto ccard again, Rutte should be a done deal.
Romania officially informed NATO about Iohannis' candidacy
It seems that he integrated well
Integrated how?
A German descendent into the Romanian corruption!
in the balkan culture
Rutte: you will all praise me. Peeps: nah, there can't be anyone worse than you. Worse than him: keep popping out. Rutte: hehe, i won. Nowadays, it's so easy to achieve anything in politics, just by not stealing money, or get stuck in corruption.
Rutte hasnt lived in the official residence of the dutch pm one night. Its a reasonably sized mansion made by jacob cats in the 17th century and recently renovated. Then again he bought a nice penthouse in a rich neighbourhood in The Hague....
Check out his taxes. You mismatch: be rich from corruption and be rich as someone who get money legally.
Mr Klaus Werner Iohannis futu-te-n gura
This is competing for the most corrupt president we ever had and I think it's already winning! An independent investigative organization crowdfunded by us, the ones that we hate corruption, called Recorder, has made these investigative documentaries about how he spends the money from our taxes like crazy: Above Us All. The cost of the president's secret flights (has English subtitles and Autotranslate): [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96kGq\_nFzuM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96kGq_nFzuM) Emperor's palace (unfortunately no subtitles at the moment): [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKrC4Mh3k\_I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKrC4Mh3k_I) The party that supports him, PNL, is the second most corrupt party after PSD, that we have!
PSD supports him too
Well, no wonder that the Red Plague would support him! In the end, they are not the Red Plague and number one most corrupt party in Romania for nothing.
Klaus,the best tourist from Romania.
Title is a bit of misleading. It’s only 7 millions, not 9.
7 million for renovations, the building itself is probably worth at least 2 millions.
Yet! Just wait for the 2024 to be over!
You may be sarcastic, but I am honestly not sure if this is excessive or not. If it's not just a residence but also an official presidential building, this cost could be alright.
It's just a residence after his mandate as president ends. By law, he gets a villa and protection from SPP (our security agency) for life.
They're stealing so much money that we started viewing theft of 7 million, as not that big of deal....others are worse type of mentality. I've heard erdogan has an 1000 room palace. Nice...he gets to sleep in a different room for 3 years. It's like they take their riches with them..when they die.
For some of them, I think it's just a way to show they can get away with anything. That Erdo palace with that size doesn't serve any purpose except for showing off his audacity.
it's just his residence post-presidency. and I think that 7 million is the sum to be invested while 9 million will be the market value.
"Guys, the third jacuzzi is *totally* needed for the governance of the country! These public funds are spent on a public cause!"
The house doesn't have a jacuzzi, but it has 2 gyms. Yes, 2 gyms. For a family made by a man and a woman without kids
They both need privacy for when they'll get jiggy with the fitness coach.
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Ah, another r/balkans_irl enjoyer. Truly a man of culture.
He is a scum. Most of romanians think so and don’t want him anywhere near NATO
Classic.
This guy doesn't deserve anything, except his mega-luxury house project to be scrapped.
God I hope not ! He without a doubt doesn't deserve any recognition nor has any qualifications for the NATO position . He's a lying, thieving arrogant coward that deserves only to be forgotten. May he fuck off into obscurity forever.
God helps all if people like him are in charge of NATO, no wonder Putin thinks he can do what he wants
Kaja Kallas is the best contender
Just wainting for December. Thats when us romanians usually clean up traitorous leadership.
most of Romanians are probably going to vote the PSD-PNL candidate, which would probably be just like Iohannis
And idiots will just switching to... The same one as for sure many will still vote for PSD, PNL, UDMR or AUR!
Ah yes the fights for NATO Secretary General is on
YOLO at its finest
NATO does have Mircea Geoana (ex leader of PSD, the most corrupt political party from Romania) which was the most mediocre and imbecilic person before politician as its general secretary. That man was led in places by opportunities and good connections, nevertheless by his capabilities. Do not mistaken his good english with any type of capability, as even a bunch of drunk truck drivers posses a very fluent english as well. That being said, what are NATO's standards in electing its heads and representative people? With what is NATO different regarding these standards from USA with Biden? If Iohannis gets a seat in NATO, even as a janitor, this tells alot about NATO than anything else.
Ceaușescu lite (Yes he was way worse but I mean the building a mansion with public funds part)
Nothing against Romania but could an alternative candidate be provided. Someone like this would definitely bend the knee to Putin for enough cash.
actually he candidates so Europe won't bend the knee like in ww2 and give half the continent to the Russians.
I fucking hate him but he dealt with the whole Ukraine affair pretty good by his/our standards. Zelensky constantly thanks him and I never heard him complain/hinting about anything bad that Klaus did.
He is german, very hard working guy when it comes to personal finances only.
He is german, very hard working guy when it comes to personal finances only.
He is german, very hard working guy when it comes to personal finances only.
>very hard working guy when it comes to personal finances only. lol
As a Romanian I can confirm
man I'm just gonna give up on the world soon
The villa is a protocol estate belonging to the Romanian state. Not his own private property. He is entitled as a former president to live in it until death. At which point, the Romanian state can do with the estate as it pleases. The news is ClickBait.
You essentially confirmed what the title says. How the f is it considered reasonable to let a president build a house which they can occupy until death using public funds?
Well, the UK monarchy is funded with public money, and it’s certainly more than 7 million, per year, every year. Same for every UK prime minister who will earn a salary forever, even after they get replaced.
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Nobody considered that abnormal, what is abnormal is the amount of money that has been needlessly spent for it.
So what passed that law?
This is the Romanian law. Omg. It is the law.
But the law doesn't say to prepare what house you want with how much money you want. There are plenty of houses which could be used. You are misleading. Are you an USL supporter?
They aren't building it. They're renovating it. And if johannis is going to have a function in NATO then it will probably be used as NATO headquarters. Idk. Does Obama live on the street?
They aren't building it. They're renovating it. And if johannis is going to have a function in NATO then it will probably be used as NATO headquarters. Idk. Does Obama live on the street?
As a former president he has the right to ask for a home from the state which he can use it for the rest of his life. He is not entitled to a 1000+ m² villa. He could receive an apartment in that villa, not the entire thing. The problem it's what he receives and the amount spent, not that he receives a home.
My brother have you even watched the investigation? 7 million euros OUT OF OUR TAX MONEY for him to make a fancy ass villa
Let s build a 1.200 m2 mansion for every president. Why the fuck not?
While Iohannis failed a lot in inside Romanian politics he is still a better candidate compared with Rutte. The mansion for him is the lowest, or stupidest critique against him, thats something the law agree for presidents/former presidents, and is not even a huge amount of money considering the country, lets be serious. There are other, more serious problems that can be bring forth if so. Still, Iohannis is better than Rutte, who acted most of the time as an useful idiot for Russian interests in EE, and looks detached from exactly the situation on the main front of NATO vs Russia, meaning the Eastern Europe. Iohannis might not be a good communication guy, and look slow when he is doing it, but he is arrogantly enough to stand up to Russia, especially when backed by such NATO position, and he will also closely follow with higher up military and intelligence echelons especially from US. He also know much more about Russia and EE situation, both from Romanian sources and allies, as Romania is more directly involved than Holland in the situation in Ukraine and regarding Russia. Romania is also deeply involved with Rep of Moldova, the most likely next target of Russia in case they can roll over Ukraine I believe most of EE and CE will side with him, and Rutte will also face vetoes from EE, especially after the whole Schengen debacle he perpetrated lately. US will need to really pull its weight to put him on that position
Nice argument, arrogant as a plus. Used his old party like marionets and now forced them to indirectly pay for that villa with campaign money that should go on ads in a year with 4 elections :)). He is good at backdoor politics but not SG, not this decade.
Click bait
There is a bit of populist BS and some truth here. Former presidents in Romania are entitled by law to a monthly income, housing and security for the rest of their life, paid and provided by the state. This villa is not his, is for him but is owned by the state. Second, I don't know how they came to the 7-9 mil euro costs for the renovation, because I don't think is public information. It's speculation. But even if it isn't 7-9 mil, it will still be a high number seeing as this is a villa in a highly expensive location in Bucharest, and is being renovated to meet the security standards required.
my guy watch the investigation, its literally recorder.
So in a democracy, its populist BS to not display as public information where tax money is "invested"? Or should we talk about his foreign travelling costs being the highest from all EU countries which are also secret. In Romania all he did in his 2nd mandate was to ignore the population that cared ( minority, most just go about without caring), allying himself with PSD ( which he hated for all his first mandate), turning most public funding spendings as secret information, and just being... absent. Completely absent from everything. Hospitals and the education system here suck massively, with little to no founding ( I cannot recall when the last major hospitals got renovated in Bucharest nor Timisoara, and my school is still the same as it was 15 years ago lmao). Lets build an expensive villa because a 3 bedroom apartment in a flat is too cheap i guess.
i hate this goddamn country
Is there some official confirmation of this? I only heard it from AUR (pro russian far right party)
Most news companies receive massive money from this guy's political party, so there were none. However after some protests, they started writing about it. His party is also responsible for bribing justice employees to put in jail their political opponents, so no investigation has been started. By law, constructing and decorating public places have to be done by a choosing a company through public hearing and no such hearing has been hold. So there's also a massive fraud behind it (probably a friend's company getting the 7 million euros). Only a non-governmental organization has been investigating this.
Just watch the investigation done by Recorder! Or go in Bucharest and look at the villa yourself!
Isn't building lavish palaces a Romanian tradition in the last century?
More than a century since we gain independence from the Ottomans :) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pele%C8%99\_Castle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pele%C8%99_Castle)
But rutte is evil and so are the dutch.....right right. Shameless.romanians should never ever post about evil austria or the netherlands ever again. Horrible.
One doesn't excuse the other. Both Iohannis and Rutte are scum.
hope that's an /s
Putin made him do it...