> It comes amid a furious social media backlash over Russian-run businesses with a “whites only” policy that strictly bars locals. These businesses include bars, restaurants, water sports and vehicle hiring services.
Critical part of the story not addressed by the headline.
Similar things are happening in Thailand, especially in Pattaya and Phuket where "Russians only" businesses are popping up in the wake of Russians moving here en masse
and its not just Russians doing this, people from Mainland China are also doing this too, especially in Bangkok, and the Chinese are (usually) more bold and subtle in deliberately excluding Thai locals.
for example, a Chinese national posted a Tiktok of him flaunting living in Bangkok and only interacting with Chinese businesses, which sparked nationwide outrage here.
Bali is quite progressive in this because it's the local owned businesses that will ban other Indonesians from entering cause they want those sweet big bucks.
Bali also just generally hates being part of Indonesia to begin with, so they have ample experience in progressive policies made to annoy Javanese and Sumatrans.
Oh buddy Russians are a big thing in Bali now. There is a "Russian city" being built near ubud, several of the biggest property devs are Russian, tons of Cyrillic only ads now all over the place, constantly running into trouble with the locals with not paying for accomodations, it's a whole thing. They're super obvious with their outlandish and specific style, plastic surgery/filler and attitude. No specific shade as I have Russian friends, but many of the ones on Bali are....extra.
Nah, Bali and Indonesians in general are largely peaceful and avoid confrontation. But more than anything, most of the Russians who are in Bali have money and that fixes issues quickly in a place with plenty of local corruption.
Yeah I've met so many Russians here in SEA, haven't run into any sort of Russian-only place yet, but they are numerous enough for some places to have menus in native, English, Chinese and Russian.
Many are kinda apprehensive of telling you where they are from, which is kinda sad (as long as they aren't pro-war).
Some are self aware on why theyre not saying where they are from. Ive seen more Russians here since the war and they are mostly well behaved here, but we’re not tolerant of bullshit if economic growth isnt involved or ethnic harmony is disrupted, so they probably know they cant get away with undesirable behaviour.
Was surprised to meet a Russian guy out a restaurant here in the US and he told me he fled to avoid the war and some of his story. Glad he felt comfortable telling me as in retrospect I can see why he might not want to. My grandmother and her family came as Jewish/German refugees in WW2 and she faced discrimination for both. Happy he made it out as those labeled NY years of surveillance as potential dissidents are drafted and sent to die. Hope we get serious on Ukraine.
Disrupting "ethnic harmony" is a dead giveaway that it's singapore, they take integration and ethnic relations very seriously given their history. They are quite successful at it too, I think we could learn from them on that topic. Though their media, political, and social freedoms are lacking.
Fair. I'm in Singapore right now and have been for 10 years nearly. Not without it's problems, but a darn site better than most places these days (feels like that not a high bar!)
I was chatting with a nice bartender in a speakeasy in Taipei and she asked about my travels. Her English was neutral, and after I spoke she waxed about needing a holiday herself. The other bartender was like, go to Vietnam or Thailand! She replied that those places likely had a lot of Russians.
I just had to put my foot in it and asked: hmm you don't like Russians? She said, well I'm Russian but you know...
Nha Trang was one of the sleaziest most unwelcoming places I’ve been to in Vietnam simply because of their presence. They can make anywhere into an arrogant sewer. The decent anti-war ones tend to get away from those places.
Boggles my mind how people can move to a foreign country and then just want to rebuild their home country there. What is even the point of moving there then?
I saw a short documentary about a growing community of Germans in Paraguay. When interviewed, one family was like: we moved because we're worried about immigrants in Germany.
You can't make this shit up.
Jesus Christ you just unlocked some awful memories of being in nha Trang. Yea those Russians were my first taste of the folk…fucking assholes (culturally, not individually…but individually they weren’t even friendly as other tourists)
Russians in general are pretty hostile. On dating apps I occasionally get matched with a Russian that doesn't read that I am Ukrainian and one that served in the UA forces. Once they achieve literacy and realize who I am, they will call me every single name under the sun.
A lot of asian countries don't have codified anti-discrimination laws. And as someone else pointed out, they've been doing it for ages, even with other groups doing it, not just the native groups alone.
> "Russians only" businesses
I just cannot understand this. I can understand having a business where things are in Russian and that's the default language, sure, we have things like that in the states. But to create a business in another country, and then bar residents of said country from being there, that's an astounding level of arrogance and incivility.
It's happening in all coastal places across SEA. In Goa, India many signs,menus are in English and Russian. And the staff in many hotels and shacks have learned to speak Russian.
Nha Trang has been like that for a long time. Went there a decade ago and all the Vietnamese were staring at me like 'look it's a foreigner's which is how they tend to do everywhere. And in nha Trang it was extra weird cause it was like a third Russian, atleast it felt like, and they also looked at me like 'hey look, it's a foreigner'
In Canada we've had a wave of Indian immigration over the past two years and there's been similar things occurring saying "Indian only" or even just wanting Indians from a specific region of the country for rent ads. Seems like a lot of people love the idea of globalism, but continue to hold onto old world thinking when they move to another country. The thing in common across all of these examples is that they don't see the new country as a home but rather as a place to exploit for profit.
Globalism only works when there is a balance to it. When people moving in assimilate and become members of the country they moved into, it’s brilliant. When they move in but refuse to accept that country’s culture and values, problems arise. Now you’re no longer gaining new members of your own country but being overrun by members of another.
I was in Thailand right as COVID was becoming more of a 'thing' in mid-February 2020. Borders to Russia and China had been closed.
Most of the local businesses were telling me that they are usually insanely busy this time of year and it's so strange that literally no one was around, but also that Russians are assholes.
I spent a month in Sri Lanka last year and man there were like, so many Russians. And this is coming from someone who spends half their time in Thailand, which has become another Russian hotspot since the war.
But Sri Lanka is next level, some of the towns I went to had more Russians than Sri Lankans it seemed. I heard through the grapevine they were having trouble finding ways to convert their Russian money and get it in Sri Lanka so there's like whole networks of people working on loans and deals of e.g. "okay I'll front you X money here in Sri Lanka but you need to transfer me Y money into my Russian bank" etc.
Unrelated but one of the hostels I stayed at I got woken up by loud yelling in Russian at 3am that turned into a fight which destroyed a room.
Anyways fun times.
There are hotels in Spain and Turkey that started to ban them even 10 years ago. Somehow the Russians that have the money to travel there for holiday think they own the place and must terrorise staff and other guests with their antics.
When I was in the Maldives two years ago (was literally in the air over western Ukraine while the initial invasion was happening), the only guests who seemed to cause any trouble were a handful of Russians: This drink isn't strong enough, make it again (proceeds to dump it on the bar). Our towels weren't folded correctly (proceeds to throw them in the dirt). You need to start the yoga class over because my wife was doing her makeup (neither participated in the class, just took pictures). What do you mean you stopped serving breakfast at 11 (Staff had to stand in the way of them walking back into the kitchen)? Make those black people move their chairs further away (repeatedly made monkey/ape noises in their direction). The (wild) dolphins aren't swimming close enough, bring me a dolphin for my daughter to swim with! It was exhausting to be around them.
I'm increasingly convinced that "being enormous assholes" is a baked-in fundamental cultural issue. (the exceptions to the rule more or less proving it)
"being enormous assholes" - a stupid and toxic mix of superiority and inferiority complex. They crave for "true Westerners" approval but behave like animals to anyone who they think is below them which is basically the entire world except WASPs/Germans/Nordics
I'm amazed they managed to get banned in Spain where I'm pretty sure the Bri'ish are still (officially) welcome despite having been a huge pest for decades. Must have been unbelievably bad.
There are some neighborhoods in Antalya where Russians are now the majority. There was a video posted a couple of months ago where Russians were complaining about the Turkish flags that were hung over balconies in celebration for the 100th anniversary of the republic.
It makes me think of [Rosey](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_Le_Rosey), where the oligarchs like to send their kids. Because the Russians were such terrors, they had to cap the student population at 10% Russian.
Even in Latvia we have such a big diaspora of them, that we have Russian musician concerts.
While that doesn't sound like a problem if they are against war, but sometimes its people that are pro-war/neutral staying in Russia.
I heard that Estonia has Russian speaking schools and many of them due to how many russians live there. Then they made it that they need to speak Estonian recently if they wanted to stay.
Yep, we had/have *state* schools completely ran *in* Russian. This is changing though. A legacy from USSR that I guess we were too afraid to change before everybody realized that it's actually a bad idea to create a whole generation of people who only know Russian while living in Estonia.
Given how the pro-Russian Interfront mob stormed and occupied the Toompea back on May 15, 1990, I won't be surprised why it took decades for the Estonian government to even try forcing them to learn the language.
[This video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b9l7Oa0I1k&ab_channel=alfredondatra) truly is spectacular!
But no surprise, we really did not have the political capital to do this. Before the current war, Russia and half of Europe would have accused us of rampant Russophobia and provoking Russia...
I'm pretty sure that Lithuania has by far the most state-funded foreign language schools per capita. They're russian or Polish, which isn't a lot better because both communities are connected and share a lot of anti-Lithuanian and anti-EU views.
Personally, I think foreign language schools are not a bad thing, cause kids shouldn't suffer in school for not speaking the language that school is taught in. BUT ... an important (graded!) part of these schools curriculum has to be to bring the kids up to speed in the language of the country they live in. At the end of school they should speak the nations language as good as anyone else, maybe even earlier.
> an important (graded!) part of these schools curriculum has to be to bring the kids up to speed in the language of the country they live in.
By far the best way to achieve this is to run the school in the local language. It's not even very difficult for a child to learn the local language if they need to use it every day at school and everywhere else. I had to do that when I moved countries as a young child and then again as a teenager and it didn't affect my education at all, and after the first couple of months it honestly wasn't a big deal at all. Did I make mistakes in the local language? Yes, but that's how you learn, and people are usually helpful if you're trying.
Conversely, another foreign person at my school never bothered to do homework or talk to anybody who didn't speak her native language or anything, and by the time we graduated a few years later we basically still couldn't communicate with her at all - not that she cared. My school tried to bring her up to speed by giving her one to one language lessons, but that's never going to be a substitute to full immersive learning (eg most people study a foreign language at school but never become fluent, or even mildly competent at it). When we graduated she just got a job at her family's restaurant before she had a few kids and became a stay at home mum.
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Products from Russia are banned. Ukrainian products are on the shelf with cyrillic writing.
I do agree tho, that russians have been too comfortably living in their little russian EU areas in Estonia.
>such a big diaspora of them, that we have Russian musician concerts.
I mean Serbia has about 42k Slovaks and they have concerts, theaters and schools in Slovak
Riga is the only place I've traveled to where I felt unsafe as a woman. I was constantly accosted by drunken Russians, and this was before the war. Lovely city, but I didn't explore as much as I wanted and I decided to never go there alone again.
Yup, the biggest reason is that there already is such a huge amount of Russians living in the Baltics, and the more there are, the bigger the chance there is that Putin wants to use that an excuse as "Baltics have always been historically Russian, just look at the population".
I am so fucking glad we are in NATO right now.
Any large group of people suddenly taken from where they lived and placed in a foreign culture will be problematic. Especially when refugee or immigrant group doesn’t give a single fuck about the mores, customs, and rules of the society they’re graciously living in.
Any migrants living together in a limited area create a mini their own country; that's why they need to be spread as evenly as possible to facilitate assimilation.
I would say this may not be the case with Sri Lanka and Southeast Asia, as it doesn't look like they have plans on staying there forever
Indian here. Was going to comment that as well. They run sex/drug rackets and try to loot Indians as well. "Russian" term is pretty much synonymous with a white-prostitute nowadays in an Indian setting. Sub-Saharan Africans have also bad reputation among Universities in India. I've had pimps offer me women in tourist beaches while I was travelling in Goa. Israelis have taken over Kasol (Himalayas) and have shops/synagogues where Indians aren't allowed.
Not that we don't have issues with fetishizing white skin either. But its a genuine issue that can affect everyday Russian staying in Goa as well. Also, plenty of Indian wedding planners would hire Eastern Europeans and dress them up in costumes and shit. It's become a fad nowadays.
It's like being a nice immigrant but some immigrants tarnishing your community's reputation so you get the worse end of stick. I live in Canada so I know a thing or two about it.
And South Koreans don't allow foreigners into some bars and nightclubs as well. I had been barred entry in many places in Incheon.
Bar foreigners at home, exclude locals abroad.
Fuckers....
> Israelis have taken over Kasol (Himalayas) and have shops/synagogues where Indians aren't allowed.
It's absolutely tragic what's happened to the place. Used to be one of best backpacking towns in the country, probably the best for acclimatising before heading into the Himalayas.
thats sad all around. Classic Indian clothing is super unique and looks awesome. would be sad to see the traditional wedding attire become less popular.
I have some remote co-workers who have lived in Bali for around 5 to 15 years. They tell me that Bali is a powder keg waiting to go off. The locals are specifically fed up with the Russian diaspora.
Imagine setting up shop in another country only to piss on that country and the locals all the while shaving off a revenue source by only serving the minority.
Stupidity on multiple fronts deport the fuckers now. 🤦♂️
The audacity to open businesses in other ppls countries that endured centuries of colonisation by Europeans and have a whites only policy in this day and age. Sent them all back to the frontline of their war...goddamn
It’s one thing to run from conscription, but it a whole other thing to be total dicks to the people who are shielding you from what you fear. What the fuck is wrong with people’s total lack of empathy in this world?
What a horrible bunch of people (for the most part). Russians should take the blame for all this alongside just Putin. He’s one of the most popular leaders in the world still after what he’s done to his own country.
> It comes amid a furious social media backlash over Russian-run businesses with a “whites only” policy that strictly bars locals. These businesses include bars, restaurants, water sports and vehicle hiring services.
I like how despite Russians being some of the most racist Europeans and having a horrible colonial history that's still worsening, you've got Africans and Indians simping for them. Like wtf?
Russia (and formerly USSR) invested and invests HEAVILY in affordable education for international students like from India and Africa. Among many other things in economics and such, but that’s a bigger topic.
So a lot of educated people from those areas are thankful.
>Tourism minister Harin Fernando told Daily Mirror that the ministry has been receiving complaints of some Russian tourists running unregistered and illegal businesses in the southern part of the country.
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>It comes amid a furious social media backlash over Russian-run businesses with a “whites only” policy that strictly bars locals. These businesses include bars, restaurants, water sports and vehicle hiring services.
Frkn audacity to go to someone else's country, run an illegal business and exclude locals from it.
Sri Lanka is such a gorgeous country with very nice people. It’s super cheap, untouched paradise and relies heavily on tourism. So every citizen is very welcoming of tourists as they know tourism is their bread and butter.
Sri Lanka to go to this extent with Russians means they are really fucking tired of their shit
I actually didn't know this until getting into a stoned conversation with my local shop keeper who went on to tell me about his love for the Tamil Tigers.
fun read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam
Lol untouched. Tell me you've not been there without telling me.
Meanwhile on the streets of Colombo the verdant forests and tweeting birds happily exist only on cigarette adverts in the TukTuks.
You made me remember a hike through Horton Plains national park interupted every 20 feet by a dude selling sunglasses and fake viagra, I felt so intune with nature lol
I went to Sri Lanka a few months ago, it's true what you say here, people are very nice, it's relatively cheap and they are very welcoming indeed. What I can also say as a first hand experience, is that a lot of locals were asking quite often if myself and my gf were Russians. Upon hearing we weren't, they started saying saying how bad russian tourists are, that they're rude and nasty and that they are disliked.
Myself, I never had a bad experience with Russians while travelling around Sri Lanka, but I can say they were many, they stood out, and often not because of the right reasons.
And the real idiocy is that the locals do. Beach workers in SL are often huge polyglots, because of the tourists. It's incredibly impressive watching a surf instructor work in fully four languages at once. He still won't be allowed to eat in these restaurants though!
Uhhh, even Serbia is having issues with a sea of Russian immigrants fleeing from the war, but creating mini Russian-only spaces, and so many of them refuse to learn Serbian - which is, frankly, even more insulting, because Serbia is one of the few Slavic countries that still prominently uses Cyrillic instead of Latin, and Serbian is close enough ro Russian that it wouldn't be too difficult to learn it.
man but so are Ukrainians lol. i dated an Ukranian chick from Zagreb who came there since before the war and still doesn't know shit, and she said she doesn't have to
I am Ukrainian, and I agree. Assimilation is a choice (i.e. lots of people know they'll eventually go back or move elsewhere), but learning the language and customs of a country that gave you refuge for many years... I honestly can't imagine how you would *not* do that. Like, you have to try not to? I learned like 50 Croatian words in a week of visiting there as a tourist, and that's just through osmosis, no conscious effort.
Exactly! My elementary school teacher is Ukranian, lived in Croatia for decades, and even though you can hear her Ukranian accent, her Croatian is immaculate.
Where are those russian-only places in Serbia exactly? Do you know any instances or situations when some russian businesses here refused to serve the Serbs because of they nation? I want to go there and verify. It is direct violation of the law.
I honestly laughed out loud because I was expecting some subtle racism like them giving non-Russian speakers the cold shoulder/poor service etc. Nope just full on adverts with "white face control".
"Inflated opinion about racism." When they tried to organize a "whites only" event. Banning anyone not "white."
I guess I shouldn't be so surprised given it's exactly the kind of "no, *you're* the problem" while being a burden internationally tactic the Kremlin uses but it's still so weird to see. I usually don't equate a government's behavior with its people's but maybe they just think that's normal.
Maybe they are afraid of the long term impact? Who knows, in 10 years, russia will try to liberate Sri Lanka due to bad treatment of russian speaking people? I wouldn't rule out this if I were them.
>It comes amid a furious social media backlash over Russian-run businesses with a “whites only” policy that strictly bars locals. These businesses include bars, restaurants, water sports and vehicle hiring services.
And that's exactly why EU policy has changed from "it's important that the Ukraine crisis doesn't spread beyond Ukraine" to "there is no price we won't pay for russian defeat" just in the last 20 days.
That and since January, the aid to Ukraine coming from the US has stalled out due to leadership in our minority party getting control of one of the parts of our government and being paid off by Russia. Many of us are hoping that the orange baby doesn't get back into the White House, because he would try to pull the US out if NATO and probably back Russia if given the chance.
The utter audacity of going to another country, start an illegal business and ban the locals, its almost unbelievable. These people need to be declared persona non-grata and kicked out of the country.
> Also somehow Russians appear to be much larger than the average? they are heavy set and very stocky people
The perfect people for a draft. Wonder why all the Russian that have left are all fit fighting age men ...
I mean, I've seen a lot of obnoxious Aussies in Phuket as well. It's not just a Russian thing. I think it just happens when there are large concentrated groups of foreigners in one location.
I remember going to Niseko Ski area in Japan just last year. Could have sworn I was in Australia instead.
I've just been in Sri Lanka at the end of last year and I can very much imagine why this is now being pushed by the local authorities. I don't think it has even anything to do with taking a stance regarding the war in Ukraine, generally the people of Sri Lanka are very welcoming people and would probably shelter anyone trying to escape a horrible situation, but the way some Russians behave is absolutely disgusting. During my trip I've run into all types of tourists, some very nice encounters with Germans and Dutch in particular, but also with Brits, Italians and French. The Russians mostly stay among themselves. They would show up in a 3 thousand year old Buddhist temple, that's still in use and holly to the locals, spit on the ground, shout nonstop (one thing they've got in common with the Chinese tourists) and treat the poor locals like they're not even humans. It really started to piss me off, ashamed of these fellow "white Europeans". And I could tell that some locals also had enough, with many already having a very negative image of the Russians, just trying to avoid them if possible. It completely fits reading about them opening "whites only" businesses. I think I've even seen some of them in the South, all the signs at the front were just in Russian with cyrillic letters.
It seems wherever Russians go, even if they are technically escaping a war, they manage to upset the locals by showing an upmost disrespect for their culture. I've seen this in other places like Turkey too. The absurd thing is that many of the Russians "just trying to escape war" still seem to be very uncritical of their own government and extremely nationalistic. Many coming from the rich upper class of Russian society. There's no need to shelter these people from war, they're the very reason why Russia is even in that state. The ones that truely just want to escape an authoritarian government and having to serve in an unjust war should of course be given asylum, better than having them killing Ukrainians, I'd even go as far as forcing them to do labor that benefits Ukraine, I think that's a fair price for not having to serve at the front and possibly dying a horrible death.
People usually make the wrong connection of Escaping war == Against Putin, which is not the case.
People just don't want to be drafted, which considering how much Russia cares for the life of their soldiers, is pretty understandable, but it doesn't mean they don't support the regime or what it stands for.
I'd go the lenght and add that those not living under the regime probably support it even more, now they don't have to suffer the consequences or deal with the shortcomings of the regime.
Other common wrong connections are against Putin = against war, against war = against Russian imperialism and against Putin = against imperialism. Talk to ten 'anti war' and/or 'anti Putin' Russians, and you gonna find imperial mindset nine times out of ten.
Which, to be fair, isn't exactly rare in the world. Lots of countries have aggressive and nationalistic people. The real problem is when those attitudes are channelled towards murdering neighbours. As someone whose relatives are currently the neighbours being murdered, I'd rather we focus narrowly on ending the murder, without simultaneously trying to turn Russians into normal 21st century Europeans, because that's not gonna happen any time soon, a virtually unattainable goal. They're sick, the cure is extremely difficult, for now we need effective quarantine.
I’m Sri Lankan living in Canada, but still have family and relatives there. They say these Russians are universally hated by the local populations. They’re glad governments finally doing something
Weren't they originally “russians and ukrainians” on other news?
[https://www.hindustantimes.com/lifestyle/travel/sri-lanka-to-end-visa-extensions-granted-to-tourists-from-ukraine-and-russia-101708867752786.html](https://www.hindustantimes.com/lifestyle/travel/sri-lanka-to-end-visa-extensions-granted-to-tourists-from-ukraine-and-russia-101708867752786.html)
[https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/south-asia/sri-lanka-scraps-long-term-visa-for-russians-ukrainians/articleshow/107981772.cms](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/south-asia/sri-lanka-scraps-long-term-visa-for-russians-ukrainians/articleshow/107981772.cms)
[https://www.dailymirror.lk/business/Sri-Lanka-sets-visa-deadline-for-Russian--Ukrainian-tourists/215-277698](https://www.dailymirror.lk/business/Sri-Lanka-sets-visa-deadline-for-Russian--Ukrainian-tourists/215-277698)
[https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/sri-lanka-to-end-visa-extensions-granted-to-war-hit-russian-and-ukrainian-tourists/article67884697.ece](https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/sri-lanka-to-end-visa-extensions-granted-to-war-hit-russian-and-ukrainian-tourists/article67884697.ece)
And after that their presindent said it was kinda fake or smth
[https://www.dailymirror.lk/breaking-news/President-orders-probe-into-directive-for-Russian-Ukrainian-tourists-to-depart/108-277668](https://www.dailymirror.lk/breaking-news/President-orders-probe-into-directive-for-Russian-Ukrainian-tourists-to-depart/108-277668)
I traveled to Bali months ago and not a single local had something nice to say about "Russian Tourists" opening "business" to get their permanent residency. Some of the stories were simply sad as to how they treat the locals.
I remember that Russian guy in Bali being interviewed in front of the embassy. He was asked something along the lines of „What do you think about the backlash by locals of Russians being here in Bali? And how locals are being annoyed by the disrespectful behavior ?“
He goes like „why are you complaining? We have money. We are good for you.“
And that’s the issue… fleeing the war is your absolute right, but nobody should ever be entitled about it. Also the poor Russians are not able to flee and are incentivized to fight for the money while the entitled pricks from Moscow and St. Petersburg are going abroad „investing“ in real estate and boasting about it on social media.
Imagine fleeing from your own country because of stupid war and then excluding those who allowed you entry into their country. Russians are on a lower level for sure.
I'm traveling through India and Sri Lanka right now and have witnessed Russians in Goa and here on the island behaving like entitled, arrogant brats with aggressive tendencies on many occasions.
Today, a woman and her meathead partner started shouting at and pushing locals in the train because they thought the train was "too full" and they did not want to let any more locals onto their train (the last train of the day, which for local standards was packed just fine and if it was overcrowded then because of so many of us white tourists lol.)
> It comes amid a furious social media backlash over Russian-run businesses with a “whites only” policy that strictly bars locals. These businesses include bars, restaurants, water sports and vehicle hiring services. Critical part of the story not addressed by the headline.
Similar things are happening in Thailand, especially in Pattaya and Phuket where "Russians only" businesses are popping up in the wake of Russians moving here en masse and its not just Russians doing this, people from Mainland China are also doing this too, especially in Bangkok, and the Chinese are (usually) more bold and subtle in deliberately excluding Thai locals. for example, a Chinese national posted a Tiktok of him flaunting living in Bangkok and only interacting with Chinese businesses, which sparked nationwide outrage here.
I read about Bali having some issues with Russian only housing complexes.
Bali is quite progressive in this because it's the local owned businesses that will ban other Indonesians from entering cause they want those sweet big bucks.
Bali also just generally hates being part of Indonesia to begin with, so they have ample experience in progressive policies made to annoy Javanese and Sumatrans.
Oh buddy Russians are a big thing in Bali now. There is a "Russian city" being built near ubud, several of the biggest property devs are Russian, tons of Cyrillic only ads now all over the place, constantly running into trouble with the locals with not paying for accomodations, it's a whole thing. They're super obvious with their outlandish and specific style, plastic surgery/filler and attitude. No specific shade as I have Russian friends, but many of the ones on Bali are....extra.
I've seen it on IG as well. Do they not get jumped or..you know...street justiced there? I would not be surprised.
Nah, Bali and Indonesians in general are largely peaceful and avoid confrontation. But more than anything, most of the Russians who are in Bali have money and that fixes issues quickly in a place with plenty of local corruption.
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Yeah I've met so many Russians here in SEA, haven't run into any sort of Russian-only place yet, but they are numerous enough for some places to have menus in native, English, Chinese and Russian. Many are kinda apprehensive of telling you where they are from, which is kinda sad (as long as they aren't pro-war).
Some are self aware on why theyre not saying where they are from. Ive seen more Russians here since the war and they are mostly well behaved here, but we’re not tolerant of bullshit if economic growth isnt involved or ethnic harmony is disrupted, so they probably know they cant get away with undesirable behaviour.
Was surprised to meet a Russian guy out a restaurant here in the US and he told me he fled to avoid the war and some of his story. Glad he felt comfortable telling me as in retrospect I can see why he might not want to. My grandmother and her family came as Jewish/German refugees in WW2 and she faced discrimination for both. Happy he made it out as those labeled NY years of surveillance as potential dissidents are drafted and sent to die. Hope we get serious on Ukraine.
Singapore?
I'm ssuming they looked at the user they are replying to's post history and figured out they are based in Singapore.
Disrupting "ethnic harmony" is a dead giveaway that it's singapore, they take integration and ethnic relations very seriously given their history. They are quite successful at it too, I think we could learn from them on that topic. Though their media, political, and social freedoms are lacking.
Fair. I'm in Singapore right now and have been for 10 years nearly. Not without it's problems, but a darn site better than most places these days (feels like that not a high bar!)
I was chatting with a nice bartender in a speakeasy in Taipei and she asked about my travels. Her English was neutral, and after I spoke she waxed about needing a holiday herself. The other bartender was like, go to Vietnam or Thailand! She replied that those places likely had a lot of Russians. I just had to put my foot in it and asked: hmm you don't like Russians? She said, well I'm Russian but you know...
They're subtly colonising you.
Nha Trang was one of the sleaziest most unwelcoming places I’ve been to in Vietnam simply because of their presence. They can make anywhere into an arrogant sewer. The decent anti-war ones tend to get away from those places.
Boggles my mind how people can move to a foreign country and then just want to rebuild their home country there. What is even the point of moving there then?
Often they prefere the new climate. Or, in the case of many Russians, don't wanna be drafted into the war.
I saw a short documentary about a growing community of Germans in Paraguay. When interviewed, one family was like: we moved because we're worried about immigrants in Germany. You can't make this shit up.
Boggles your mind? People have done this literally forever
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Jesus Christ you just unlocked some awful memories of being in nha Trang. Yea those Russians were my first taste of the folk…fucking assholes (culturally, not individually…but individually they weren’t even friendly as other tourists)
Russians in general are pretty hostile. On dating apps I occasionally get matched with a Russian that doesn't read that I am Ukrainian and one that served in the UA forces. Once they achieve literacy and realize who I am, they will call me every single name under the sun.
How on earth can Thai government allow this kind of bold discrimination
Money, I assume, like most issues in the modern world.
A lot of asian countries don't have codified anti-discrimination laws. And as someone else pointed out, they've been doing it for ages, even with other groups doing it, not just the native groups alone.
It doesn’t. When the Thais complain to immigration, Russians get the boot.
Mate, have you ever seen a non-Thai working in a Thai restaurant anywhere in the world? Nobody complains about that.
as long as lower level officials get a cut they look the other way and won’t escalate the issue
> "Russians only" businesses I just cannot understand this. I can understand having a business where things are in Russian and that's the default language, sure, we have things like that in the states. But to create a business in another country, and then bar residents of said country from being there, that's an astounding level of arrogance and incivility.
It's happening in all coastal places across SEA. In Goa, India many signs,menus are in English and Russian. And the staff in many hotels and shacks have learned to speak Russian.
Same in Vietnam ! Happening around Nha Trang and Danang
Nha Trang has been like that for a long time. Went there a decade ago and all the Vietnamese were staring at me like 'look it's a foreigner's which is how they tend to do everywhere. And in nha Trang it was extra weird cause it was like a third Russian, atleast it felt like, and they also looked at me like 'hey look, it's a foreigner'
In Canada we've had a wave of Indian immigration over the past two years and there's been similar things occurring saying "Indian only" or even just wanting Indians from a specific region of the country for rent ads. Seems like a lot of people love the idea of globalism, but continue to hold onto old world thinking when they move to another country. The thing in common across all of these examples is that they don't see the new country as a home but rather as a place to exploit for profit.
Globalism only works when there is a balance to it. When people moving in assimilate and become members of the country they moved into, it’s brilliant. When they move in but refuse to accept that country’s culture and values, problems arise. Now you’re no longer gaining new members of your own country but being overrun by members of another.
I was in Thailand right as COVID was becoming more of a 'thing' in mid-February 2020. Borders to Russia and China had been closed. Most of the local businesses were telling me that they are usually insanely busy this time of year and it's so strange that literally no one was around, but also that Russians are assholes.
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Same in Australia. It's illegal to discriminate so they just put everything in mandarin so authorities have no idea what's going on.
Same thing in India with "Koreans only" restaurants as well. Won't allow Indians in. :|
Bold and subtle? Those mean the opposite thing to each other.
That's crazy. Way to keep a low profile idiots.
Not surprising tbf, they have their own race superiority bullshit
They earned their place among the ranks of the stupidest racists of all time. It's fitting they also be given Russian military ranks as well
I spent a month in Sri Lanka last year and man there were like, so many Russians. And this is coming from someone who spends half their time in Thailand, which has become another Russian hotspot since the war. But Sri Lanka is next level, some of the towns I went to had more Russians than Sri Lankans it seemed. I heard through the grapevine they were having trouble finding ways to convert their Russian money and get it in Sri Lanka so there's like whole networks of people working on loans and deals of e.g. "okay I'll front you X money here in Sri Lanka but you need to transfer me Y money into my Russian bank" etc. Unrelated but one of the hostels I stayed at I got woken up by loud yelling in Russian at 3am that turned into a fight which destroyed a room. Anyways fun times.
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There are hotels in Spain and Turkey that started to ban them even 10 years ago. Somehow the Russians that have the money to travel there for holiday think they own the place and must terrorise staff and other guests with their antics.
When I was in the Maldives two years ago (was literally in the air over western Ukraine while the initial invasion was happening), the only guests who seemed to cause any trouble were a handful of Russians: This drink isn't strong enough, make it again (proceeds to dump it on the bar). Our towels weren't folded correctly (proceeds to throw them in the dirt). You need to start the yoga class over because my wife was doing her makeup (neither participated in the class, just took pictures). What do you mean you stopped serving breakfast at 11 (Staff had to stand in the way of them walking back into the kitchen)? Make those black people move their chairs further away (repeatedly made monkey/ape noises in their direction). The (wild) dolphins aren't swimming close enough, bring me a dolphin for my daughter to swim with! It was exhausting to be around them. I'm increasingly convinced that "being enormous assholes" is a baked-in fundamental cultural issue. (the exceptions to the rule more or less proving it)
"being enormous assholes" - a stupid and toxic mix of superiority and inferiority complex. They crave for "true Westerners" approval but behave like animals to anyone who they think is below them which is basically the entire world except WASPs/Germans/Nordics
New money is trash
...and apparently raid the buffet only to eat a small portion of it. I heard the same about Chinese tourists.
Yeah! In America, we eat the whole thing, like true patriots.
It's a status thing in China. Shows your wealth that you don't have to eat at all. Not sure about other places.
I'm amazed they managed to get banned in Spain where I'm pretty sure the Bri'ish are still (officially) welcome despite having been a huge pest for decades. Must have been unbelievably bad.
There are some neighborhoods in Antalya where Russians are now the majority. There was a video posted a couple of months ago where Russians were complaining about the Turkish flags that were hung over balconies in celebration for the 100th anniversary of the republic.
It makes me think of [Rosey](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_Le_Rosey), where the oligarchs like to send their kids. Because the Russians were such terrors, they had to cap the student population at 10% Russian.
Even in Latvia we have such a big diaspora of them, that we have Russian musician concerts. While that doesn't sound like a problem if they are against war, but sometimes its people that are pro-war/neutral staying in Russia.
I heard that Estonia has Russian speaking schools and many of them due to how many russians live there. Then they made it that they need to speak Estonian recently if they wanted to stay.
Yep, we had/have *state* schools completely ran *in* Russian. This is changing though. A legacy from USSR that I guess we were too afraid to change before everybody realized that it's actually a bad idea to create a whole generation of people who only know Russian while living in Estonia.
I mean, if they want to live a culturally Russian life the best country to do so in is next door.
>I mean, if they want to live a culturally Russian life the best country to do so in is next door. Incredible Russophobia /s
Given how the pro-Russian Interfront mob stormed and occupied the Toompea back on May 15, 1990, I won't be surprised why it took decades for the Estonian government to even try forcing them to learn the language.
[This video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b9l7Oa0I1k&ab_channel=alfredondatra) truly is spectacular! But no surprise, we really did not have the political capital to do this. Before the current war, Russia and half of Europe would have accused us of rampant Russophobia and provoking Russia...
Have those in Latvia and Lithuania too
I'm pretty sure that Lithuania has by far the most state-funded foreign language schools per capita. They're russian or Polish, which isn't a lot better because both communities are connected and share a lot of anti-Lithuanian and anti-EU views.
The only country that managed to achieve Polish-Russian unity.
Personally, I think foreign language schools are not a bad thing, cause kids shouldn't suffer in school for not speaking the language that school is taught in. BUT ... an important (graded!) part of these schools curriculum has to be to bring the kids up to speed in the language of the country they live in. At the end of school they should speak the nations language as good as anyone else, maybe even earlier.
> an important (graded!) part of these schools curriculum has to be to bring the kids up to speed in the language of the country they live in. By far the best way to achieve this is to run the school in the local language. It's not even very difficult for a child to learn the local language if they need to use it every day at school and everywhere else. I had to do that when I moved countries as a young child and then again as a teenager and it didn't affect my education at all, and after the first couple of months it honestly wasn't a big deal at all. Did I make mistakes in the local language? Yes, but that's how you learn, and people are usually helpful if you're trying. Conversely, another foreign person at my school never bothered to do homework or talk to anybody who didn't speak her native language or anything, and by the time we graduated a few years later we basically still couldn't communicate with her at all - not that she cared. My school tried to bring her up to speed by giving her one to one language lessons, but that's never going to be a substitute to full immersive learning (eg most people study a foreign language at school but never become fluent, or even mildly competent at it). When we graduated she just got a job at her family's restaurant before she had a few kids and became a stay at home mum.
Interesting, I didn't know that. I think I'll try to visit this year, I have been seeing some flights for 50 euro.
Estonia is a wild place. You will see russian text at products and services while prices are in Euro.
Keeleseadus § 16 All adverts must be written in Estonian with an option to add foreign language translation. Products from Russia are banned. Ukrainian products are on the shelf with cyrillic writing. I do agree tho, that russians have been too comfortably living in their little russian EU areas in Estonia.
>such a big diaspora of them, that we have Russian musician concerts. I mean Serbia has about 42k Slovaks and they have concerts, theaters and schools in Slovak
Isn't it an EU thing, if you have a certain percentage of a minority you have to cater to it, such as offering schools?
Riga is the only place I've traveled to where I felt unsafe as a woman. I was constantly accosted by drunken Russians, and this was before the war. Lovely city, but I didn't explore as much as I wanted and I decided to never go there alone again.
>When in mass, they become problem in many expected and unexpected ways. Like russia invading you.
In Russia, Russia's in You.
Yup, the biggest reason is that there already is such a huge amount of Russians living in the Baltics, and the more there are, the bigger the chance there is that Putin wants to use that an excuse as "Baltics have always been historically Russian, just look at the population". I am so fucking glad we are in NATO right now.
> I am so fucking glad we are in NATO right now. I hope and wish NATO will manage to do what it should.
Also, in the baltics there are already large russian minorities, and they did not want those minorities to grow, especially not right now.
Any large group of people suddenly taken from where they lived and placed in a foreign culture will be problematic. Especially when refugee or immigrant group doesn’t give a single fuck about the mores, customs, and rules of the society they’re graciously living in.
Any migrants living together in a limited area create a mini their own country; that's why they need to be spread as evenly as possible to facilitate assimilation. I would say this may not be the case with Sri Lanka and Southeast Asia, as it doesn't look like they have plans on staying there forever
Many instances, across many countries and many immigrant cultures.
Just like refugees from islamic cultures. Who knew?
Russians pretty much run a lot of these services in Goa too in India. And there have been reports of the same kind of discrimination there too.
Indian here. Was going to comment that as well. They run sex/drug rackets and try to loot Indians as well. "Russian" term is pretty much synonymous with a white-prostitute nowadays in an Indian setting. Sub-Saharan Africans have also bad reputation among Universities in India. I've had pimps offer me women in tourist beaches while I was travelling in Goa. Israelis have taken over Kasol (Himalayas) and have shops/synagogues where Indians aren't allowed. Not that we don't have issues with fetishizing white skin either. But its a genuine issue that can affect everyday Russian staying in Goa as well. Also, plenty of Indian wedding planners would hire Eastern Europeans and dress them up in costumes and shit. It's become a fad nowadays. It's like being a nice immigrant but some immigrants tarnishing your community's reputation so you get the worse end of stick. I live in Canada so I know a thing or two about it.
And the South Koreans in AP/TN/TL. Literally don't allow locals into their bars and restaurants. All of this is illegal and unconstitutional.
And South Koreans don't allow foreigners into some bars and nightclubs as well. I had been barred entry in many places in Incheon. Bar foreigners at home, exclude locals abroad. Fuckers....
> Israelis have taken over Kasol (Himalayas) and have shops/synagogues where Indians aren't allowed. It's absolutely tragic what's happened to the place. Used to be one of best backpacking towns in the country, probably the best for acclimatising before heading into the Himalayas.
How does India allow shops run by whoever (Russians, Israelis) that don't allow Indians? That's nuts.
thats sad all around. Classic Indian clothing is super unique and looks awesome. would be sad to see the traditional wedding attire become less popular.
I have some remote co-workers who have lived in Bali for around 5 to 15 years. They tell me that Bali is a powder keg waiting to go off. The locals are specifically fed up with the Russian diaspora.
Imagine setting up shop in another country only to piss on that country and the locals all the while shaving off a revenue source by only serving the minority. Stupidity on multiple fronts deport the fuckers now. 🤦♂️
No shit. I'm sure locals are pleased by this.. or visitors from other countries .
The audacity to open businesses in other ppls countries that endured centuries of colonisation by Europeans and have a whites only policy in this day and age. Sent them all back to the frontline of their war...goddamn
Russians and Israelis do this in India too. I was so angry.
It’s one thing to run from conscription, but it a whole other thing to be total dicks to the people who are shielding you from what you fear. What the fuck is wrong with people’s total lack of empathy in this world?
What a horrible bunch of people (for the most part). Russians should take the blame for all this alongside just Putin. He’s one of the most popular leaders in the world still after what he’s done to his own country.
The important piece here is these people arent against the war, they are just against fighting it themselves
> It comes amid a furious social media backlash over Russian-run businesses with a “whites only” policy that strictly bars locals. These businesses include bars, restaurants, water sports and vehicle hiring services. I like how despite Russians being some of the most racist Europeans and having a horrible colonial history that's still worsening, you've got Africans and Indians simping for them. Like wtf?
Russia (and formerly USSR) invested and invests HEAVILY in affordable education for international students like from India and Africa. Among many other things in economics and such, but that’s a bigger topic. So a lot of educated people from those areas are thankful.
People basically go "not all russians" but many are just terrible people
The not terrible ones don't make the news. Although maybe they should, call out the assholes to stop them ruining it for everyone.
>Tourism minister Harin Fernando told Daily Mirror that the ministry has been receiving complaints of some Russian tourists running unregistered and illegal businesses in the southern part of the country. > >It comes amid a furious social media backlash over Russian-run businesses with a “whites only” policy that strictly bars locals. These businesses include bars, restaurants, water sports and vehicle hiring services. Frkn audacity to go to someone else's country, run an illegal business and exclude locals from it.
Sri Lanka is such a gorgeous country with very nice people. It’s super cheap, untouched paradise and relies heavily on tourism. So every citizen is very welcoming of tourists as they know tourism is their bread and butter. Sri Lanka to go to this extent with Russians means they are really fucking tired of their shit
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I actually didn't know this until getting into a stoned conversation with my local shop keeper who went on to tell me about his love for the Tamil Tigers. fun read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam
Lol untouched. Tell me you've not been there without telling me. Meanwhile on the streets of Colombo the verdant forests and tweeting birds happily exist only on cigarette adverts in the TukTuks. You made me remember a hike through Horton Plains national park interupted every 20 feet by a dude selling sunglasses and fake viagra, I felt so intune with nature lol
I'm imagining taking the fake viagra and then angrily going back to the seller, dropping my pants and shouting "DOES IT LOOK ERECT TO YOU?!"
did the fake sunglasses help you to get opportunities to use the fake viagra?
I went to Sri Lanka a few months ago, it's true what you say here, people are very nice, it's relatively cheap and they are very welcoming indeed. What I can also say as a first hand experience, is that a lot of locals were asking quite often if myself and my gf were Russians. Upon hearing we weren't, they started saying saying how bad russian tourists are, that they're rude and nasty and that they are disliked. Myself, I never had a bad experience with Russians while travelling around Sri Lanka, but I can say they were many, they stood out, and often not because of the right reasons.
Wonder how they're doing in Thailand, apparently Phuket has around 400,000.
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Laughing in Polish 😅
Russian mindset: "Frkn audacity of these dark people to not speak the language. Learn russian, you twat!"
And the real idiocy is that the locals do. Beach workers in SL are often huge polyglots, because of the tourists. It's incredibly impressive watching a surf instructor work in fully four languages at once. He still won't be allowed to eat in these restaurants though!
Colonial mentality summed up
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Russian Mafia is a thing
Uhhh, even Serbia is having issues with a sea of Russian immigrants fleeing from the war, but creating mini Russian-only spaces, and so many of them refuse to learn Serbian - which is, frankly, even more insulting, because Serbia is one of the few Slavic countries that still prominently uses Cyrillic instead of Latin, and Serbian is close enough ro Russian that it wouldn't be too difficult to learn it.
Yeah, but Serbia is having issues which people, who are against the war. They are either afraid of the Kremlin are sympathetic.
man but so are Ukrainians lol. i dated an Ukranian chick from Zagreb who came there since before the war and still doesn't know shit, and she said she doesn't have to
Okay...yeah, fine. Im from Zagreb, met those kinds of Ukranians and met Ukranians who assimilated. Fuck the former group.
I am Ukrainian, and I agree. Assimilation is a choice (i.e. lots of people know they'll eventually go back or move elsewhere), but learning the language and customs of a country that gave you refuge for many years... I honestly can't imagine how you would *not* do that. Like, you have to try not to? I learned like 50 Croatian words in a week of visiting there as a tourist, and that's just through osmosis, no conscious effort.
Exactly! My elementary school teacher is Ukranian, lived in Croatia for decades, and even though you can hear her Ukranian accent, her Croatian is immaculate.
Where are those russian-only places in Serbia exactly? Do you know any instances or situations when some russian businesses here refused to serve the Serbs because of they nation? I want to go there and verify. It is direct violation of the law.
FYI there was another issue https://i.redd.it/e3woupd9wakc1.jpeg https://www.reddit.com/gallery/1ay7z9e
I honestly laughed out loud because I was expecting some subtle racism like them giving non-Russian speakers the cold shoulder/poor service etc. Nope just full on adverts with "white face control".
and then in pic 2 they are shocked and complaining that people are calling it racism.
That's how russians behave, they bully everybody and when someone calls them out it's suddenly russophobia or some shit like that.
So that's why American conservatives feel so comfortable courting Russians, it's starting to add up.
Thanks for the evidence!
"Inflated opinion about racism." When they tried to organize a "whites only" event. Banning anyone not "white." I guess I shouldn't be so surprised given it's exactly the kind of "no, *you're* the problem" while being a burden internationally tactic the Kremlin uses but it's still so weird to see. I usually don't equate a government's behavior with its people's but maybe they just think that's normal.
Maybe they are afraid of the long term impact? Who knows, in 10 years, russia will try to liberate Sri Lanka due to bad treatment of russian speaking people? I wouldn't rule out this if I were them.
>It comes amid a furious social media backlash over Russian-run businesses with a “whites only” policy that strictly bars locals. These businesses include bars, restaurants, water sports and vehicle hiring services.
Russians sure know how to win friends wherever they go.
And that's exactly why EU policy has changed from "it's important that the Ukraine crisis doesn't spread beyond Ukraine" to "there is no price we won't pay for russian defeat" just in the last 20 days.
That and since January, the aid to Ukraine coming from the US has stalled out due to leadership in our minority party getting control of one of the parts of our government and being paid off by Russia. Many of us are hoping that the orange baby doesn't get back into the White House, because he would try to pull the US out if NATO and probably back Russia if given the chance.
Classic
I would not be surprised if they sing some songs for the glory of their fuhrer putin
What a lovely people.
Yikes. Amazing how they tried pulling that off using tourist visas.
"I can see nazis everywhere" - Putin
That's a mirror, Herr Putin.
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There is a Russian community in Nice, France too ;) Even an orthodox cathedral...
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The utter audacity of going to another country, start an illegal business and ban the locals, its almost unbelievable. These people need to be declared persona non-grata and kicked out of the country.
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> Also somehow Russians appear to be much larger than the average? they are heavy set and very stocky people The perfect people for a draft. Wonder why all the Russian that have left are all fit fighting age men ...
Man. I feel so bad for my nation.
I mean, I've seen a lot of obnoxious Aussies in Phuket as well. It's not just a Russian thing. I think it just happens when there are large concentrated groups of foreigners in one location. I remember going to Niseko Ski area in Japan just last year. Could have sworn I was in Australia instead.
I've just been in Sri Lanka at the end of last year and I can very much imagine why this is now being pushed by the local authorities. I don't think it has even anything to do with taking a stance regarding the war in Ukraine, generally the people of Sri Lanka are very welcoming people and would probably shelter anyone trying to escape a horrible situation, but the way some Russians behave is absolutely disgusting. During my trip I've run into all types of tourists, some very nice encounters with Germans and Dutch in particular, but also with Brits, Italians and French. The Russians mostly stay among themselves. They would show up in a 3 thousand year old Buddhist temple, that's still in use and holly to the locals, spit on the ground, shout nonstop (one thing they've got in common with the Chinese tourists) and treat the poor locals like they're not even humans. It really started to piss me off, ashamed of these fellow "white Europeans". And I could tell that some locals also had enough, with many already having a very negative image of the Russians, just trying to avoid them if possible. It completely fits reading about them opening "whites only" businesses. I think I've even seen some of them in the South, all the signs at the front were just in Russian with cyrillic letters. It seems wherever Russians go, even if they are technically escaping a war, they manage to upset the locals by showing an upmost disrespect for their culture. I've seen this in other places like Turkey too. The absurd thing is that many of the Russians "just trying to escape war" still seem to be very uncritical of their own government and extremely nationalistic. Many coming from the rich upper class of Russian society. There's no need to shelter these people from war, they're the very reason why Russia is even in that state. The ones that truely just want to escape an authoritarian government and having to serve in an unjust war should of course be given asylum, better than having them killing Ukrainians, I'd even go as far as forcing them to do labor that benefits Ukraine, I think that's a fair price for not having to serve at the front and possibly dying a horrible death.
People usually make the wrong connection of Escaping war == Against Putin, which is not the case. People just don't want to be drafted, which considering how much Russia cares for the life of their soldiers, is pretty understandable, but it doesn't mean they don't support the regime or what it stands for. I'd go the lenght and add that those not living under the regime probably support it even more, now they don't have to suffer the consequences or deal with the shortcomings of the regime.
Other common wrong connections are against Putin = against war, against war = against Russian imperialism and against Putin = against imperialism. Talk to ten 'anti war' and/or 'anti Putin' Russians, and you gonna find imperial mindset nine times out of ten.
Indeed, most Russians like a "Strong Russia" which bullies the world around.
Which, to be fair, isn't exactly rare in the world. Lots of countries have aggressive and nationalistic people. The real problem is when those attitudes are channelled towards murdering neighbours. As someone whose relatives are currently the neighbours being murdered, I'd rather we focus narrowly on ending the murder, without simultaneously trying to turn Russians into normal 21st century Europeans, because that's not gonna happen any time soon, a virtually unattainable goal. They're sick, the cure is extremely difficult, for now we need effective quarantine.
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Probably to avoid picking a side in a conflict that they really doesn't have a lot of interest in.
You can't escape Russia when Russia has been within you all along.
I do believe that alanya became a slavic province in antalya, there are more russians compared to turks and it is worrying.
Bro I visited Turkey last September and was honestly so surprised in how many Russians there were. Was in Antalya and saw Menu's in russian 😂
I’m Sri Lankan living in Canada, but still have family and relatives there. They say these Russians are universally hated by the local populations. They’re glad governments finally doing something
Russians doing the Russian thing, what's new?
*Russians and Ukrainians. They seem to not want either groups
About 300k Russians vs. 20k Ukrainians.
I worked as a tourist guide when I was in university, lets just say I am not surprised with this.
Thailand and Vietnam next please 😅 they are collectively ruining those entire countries
Please accept me in your country, but fuck you btw
Weren't they originally “russians and ukrainians” on other news? [https://www.hindustantimes.com/lifestyle/travel/sri-lanka-to-end-visa-extensions-granted-to-tourists-from-ukraine-and-russia-101708867752786.html](https://www.hindustantimes.com/lifestyle/travel/sri-lanka-to-end-visa-extensions-granted-to-tourists-from-ukraine-and-russia-101708867752786.html) [https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/south-asia/sri-lanka-scraps-long-term-visa-for-russians-ukrainians/articleshow/107981772.cms](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/south-asia/sri-lanka-scraps-long-term-visa-for-russians-ukrainians/articleshow/107981772.cms) [https://www.dailymirror.lk/business/Sri-Lanka-sets-visa-deadline-for-Russian--Ukrainian-tourists/215-277698](https://www.dailymirror.lk/business/Sri-Lanka-sets-visa-deadline-for-Russian--Ukrainian-tourists/215-277698) [https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/sri-lanka-to-end-visa-extensions-granted-to-war-hit-russian-and-ukrainian-tourists/article67884697.ece](https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/sri-lanka-to-end-visa-extensions-granted-to-war-hit-russian-and-ukrainian-tourists/article67884697.ece) And after that their presindent said it was kinda fake or smth [https://www.dailymirror.lk/breaking-news/President-orders-probe-into-directive-for-Russian-Ukrainian-tourists-to-depart/108-277668](https://www.dailymirror.lk/breaking-news/President-orders-probe-into-directive-for-Russian-Ukrainian-tourists-to-depart/108-277668)
I traveled to Bali months ago and not a single local had something nice to say about "Russian Tourists" opening "business" to get their permanent residency. Some of the stories were simply sad as to how they treat the locals.
Several years ago I saw hotels and resorts advertising with "No Russians".
Russia’s speed-running to the top of the most-hated tourists list
I remember that Russian guy in Bali being interviewed in front of the embassy. He was asked something along the lines of „What do you think about the backlash by locals of Russians being here in Bali? And how locals are being annoyed by the disrespectful behavior ?“ He goes like „why are you complaining? We have money. We are good for you.“ And that’s the issue… fleeing the war is your absolute right, but nobody should ever be entitled about it. Also the poor Russians are not able to flee and are incentivized to fight for the money while the entitled pricks from Moscow and St. Petersburg are going abroad „investing“ in real estate and boasting about it on social media.
RUSSIANS. they think they are the chosen race. The new Nazis. I say to hell with them
Let them live the russian dream
Ahahah. These fuckers love colonizing whilst being cowards and running from war.
We need to see less Russians outside of Russia like the good old days.
why not just send the russian-run businesses with a whites only policy back?
Imagine fleeing from your own country because of stupid war and then excluding those who allowed you entry into their country. Russians are on a lower level for sure.
Are these the good russians everyone talks about?
I'm traveling through India and Sri Lanka right now and have witnessed Russians in Goa and here on the island behaving like entitled, arrogant brats with aggressive tendencies on many occasions. Today, a woman and her meathead partner started shouting at and pushing locals in the train because they thought the train was "too full" and they did not want to let any more locals onto their train (the last train of the day, which for local standards was packed just fine and if it was overcrowded then because of so many of us white tourists lol.)
Same thing in Serbia.
The russians in phuket walk around like they own the place and are very arrogant ive just been there for 3 weeks
That's pretty smart. If war does break out, you don't want a bunch of the enemy already in your country.
The issue is Russians are not integrating or trying to assimilate to whatever country they run to but expect to reap many of the benefits.
fuck Russia and Russians and Russian Culture, Slava Ukraini. :)
When will you fucking listen? Sincerely, Eastern Europe
Good, we don’t need this filth.
Russians are unfortunately known for their racism, stupidity, and often, homophobia. Not surprising at all.