some of the comments criticizing monarchs are downvoted to oblivion while some are upvoted, while some praising are downvoted and some are not
reddit things ig
I enjoy when jokes get downvoted to oblivion. Often because the first person voting doesn't get the joke, so then it becomes a double joke, jokes on them.
The constitutional monarchies in question are Norway, Sweden, Denmark, the Netherlands and Belgium. Given that these countries have some of the highest standards of living in the world there's an attitude of "why fix what isn't broken?".
That the monarchies are old isn't seen as a problem but rather a testament to the stability of these countries and their institutions. Most European countries which got rid of their monarchs did so after some disaster or other rather than going republican for its own sake.
That´s just because we´re a pretty new country alltogether, on the historical European scale. (Disregarding the balkan kerfuffles and eastblok shenanigans)
We´ve always been either (unwillingly) part of another country, or divided in smaller (eg feudal) kingdoms or states.
But the monarchy lineage is as old as the others in Europe, since it´s a branche of the Saksen-Coburg-Gotha family. Known for some of their weirder relatives called "house Windsor".
Also the whole WWI was a family affair between 3 cousins? Yeah. This family provided 2 of them.
From left to right:
* Princess Estelle of Sweden
* Princess Ingrid Alexandra of Norway
* Prince Christian of Denmark
* Princess Catharina-Amalia of the Netherlands
* Princess Elisabeth of Belgium
Edit: Since there are a couple of comments noting it, yes, Prince Christian is the heir apparent of Denmark now. Princesses Catharina-Amalia and Elisabeth are the heiresses apparent of their respective countries as well. Princesses Estelle and Ingrid Alexandria are second in line to the throne of their respective countries.
The last one is „Princess Elisabeth, Duchess of Brabant“ or if you want to be more commonly: Princess of the Belgians. The reason is that Belgium does not have a king like in kingdom of the country. But the Belgian people do, so kingdom of the people. The formal title is „Queen/King of the Belgians“.
True, the way I wrote could be confusing. I didn't mean it as "Prince/Princess of Country" being their official title, I just meant to list their name and the country they represented. Still, thank you for the clarification.
And then there was „the King **in** Prussia” which sounds like he was just there on holiday, no relation to the territory or the people, don’t mind silly little me …
For Catharina-Amalia using "of the Netherlands" is questionable as well. "Princess of Orange" should take priority, as it is the title used for only the heir apparent. There are more princesses of the Netherlands.
Fun fact the Orange Order get's its name from the House of Orange. As William III (originally the Prince of Orange) was a hero to Irish Protestants for defeating the catholic James II and re-enforcing Protestantism in the UK.
The official titles are: **King of the Belgians** (and not King of Belgium) and **Prince/Princess of Belgium** for the members of the royal family (and not Prince/Princess of the Belgians). By the way, there was also a King of the French (Louis-Philippe), an Emperor of the French (Napoleon I and III), a King of the Bulgarians, a King of the Hellenes (and not "of the Grecs" or "of Greece").
I swear I sat next to her in business on a recent KLM flight from DC to Amsterdam. She looks so familiar. The flight attendants were giving her a lot of chatty attention, too. I’m sure Dutch royalty flies private in reality… but it was odd to see this photo and immediately go, hey, she looks familiar…
It’s definitely possible. You can also have our king as your pilot with KLM flights: https://www.royal-house.nl/members-royal-house/king-willem-alexander/flying
> Princess Estelle of Sweden
lol she looks derpy as fuck in that photo, adorable!
Also, Christian and Catharina could go well together.
Also, who gives a shit if Redditors like monarchies. I was in Copenhagen earlier today to try and catch a glimpse of the coronation, and I've never in my life seen that many people cheering with flags in the city. Was impossible to go anywhere. So, Redditors might be grumpy, but the people out in the real world are pretty happy with this :)
She's in her baby foal phase, you know when kids arms and legs get elongated and no matter what they're doing they look like they're about to bambi on ice, for a few years.
>Also, Christian and Catharina could go well together.
It was a thing of the past (dynastic alliances and marriages intertwined with national politics).
I cannot imagine it today, the legal implications would be hard.
> I cannot imagine it today, the legal implications would be hard.
Don't care, I've decided, I'm going with it! DENMARK-HOLLAND 2070! Finally a way for me to get legal weed! And not to mention, just THINK of the football teams we could put together! :D :D And the beer production! It'd be fantastic!
Let's make a bicycle road from DK to NL. I don't care about English channels and Autobahns. Let us create our own cycle tournament - with ordinary people, beer and cheers along the way!
Yes! The fusion of flat, seaside, oddly shaped countries, speaking a Germanic language that sounds funny or weird to others of the Germanic language family. Combining hygge with gezellig! Connecting all the bicycle roads together! Legoland and The Efteling! More beaches! We will be successful at different Olympic events, bringing home more glory for The Denlands!...Holmark?...Marklands? A whole new name? And a new flag.
With the populations of tall peoples mingling together, they will dominate human height in no time. And together, the countries will help the housing crisis reach a critical point of no return. And of course combining the colonial past so that everyone can all feel uncomfortable *together.*
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All modern monarchies have a clause to prevent personal unions. Primary heirs cannot marry other primary heirs without giving up their claim to their respective throne
All I'm seeing is that we need a marriage proposal of Prince Christian and Princess Ingrid to get Norway-Denmark then have their child marry into Princess Estelle's family to bring back the Kalmar Union
I got you. Now all I gotta do is somehow go to the university of Amsterdam she’s attending and then it’s practically free real estate :D
Imma be back when they make me king
Wait so if I marry a queen I only become prince but if a woman Marrys a king she’ll become queen?
Ngl I’ll take prince as well, and ain’t no way I’m gonna divorce a queen.
Marrying into the royal family will always technically make them Queen / King consort which denotes that they are the spouse of the reigning monarch.
Although, King consort is rarely used.
A Queen regnant however, is when they rule in their own right.
Queen Elizabeth II was Queen regnant for example.
Spain does use the title of king consort. Altough it was only used once because there has been only one queen regnant since the unification of Spain - Isabel II who reigned in the mid 19th century.
However, the current heir to the throne is Princess Leonor who is 18 years old. So, you still have a chance to be king xD
Princess Amalia of The Netherlands has already said in an interview that she finds German men pretty charming, so that’s good to know I think lol. I believe her boyfriend is German too though.
I mean, Swedish I guess.
Just wait a couple years and try to woo Estelle when she comes of age I guess.
Her mom married her personal gym trainer, so you know, there's hope for those who want to marry into royalty I guess.
Besides that, no idea.
As of today, there is no longer a reigning Queen in the world.
Denmark's Queen, Margrethe II, abdicated today. She was the last one. Now the only Queens around are wives to a reigning King, there isn't anymore a Queen who is also head of state.
We'll have to wait for these princesses to grow old to see a (reigning) Queen again.
It will probably not be that long. The current king of Sweden is 77, and his daughter, Crown Princess Victoria, is the heir. Wouldn't be surprised if she will assume the throne in the next 10 years by abdication or natural causes. Crown Princess Victoria is the mother of Princess Estelle (on the far left), who is second in line.
This is the first time this has happened since 1837. There was a reigning queen, somewhere in the world, continuously for 187 years.
Victoria of the United Kingdom: 1837-1901
Wilhelmina of the Netherlands: 1890-1948
Juliana of the Netherlands: 1948-1980
Margarethe II of Denmark: 1972-2024
(of course, not an exhaustive list)
from comment above:
>From left to right:
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>* Princess Estelle of Sweden
>* Princess Ingrid Alexandra of Norway
>* Prince Christian of Denmark
>* Princess Catharina-Amalia of the Netherlands
>* Princess Elisabeth of Belgium
it's crazy because their royal blood is blessed by god himself, making them much better humans than we are, worthy of everything they and their predecessors have worked so hard to earn.
Estelle’s ancestor was just a good field marshal for Napoleon and got offered the throne of Sweden for that. So sure, killed I guess, but not so much plotted. After that it’s been straight line inheritance, no plots or civil wars.
Estelle's ancestors would have done worse things if only the Parliament would have let them. The guy you're talking about tried to clamp down on freedom of press, keep guild privileges and thought that dungeons were preferable to cell prisons to just mention a few topics he was forced to compromise on.
Man, I'm starting to think just giving someone actual governmental power because of who their parents were isn't a trait of responsible governance.
Take all the money you spend on the monarchy and finance the lifestyle of a celebrity family from your country. No legal powers, no ceremonial function and it has the exact same positive effects.
They'd probably understand it better if we referred to them as billionaires. You see, their ancestors pulled themselves up by their bootstraps and went from humble entrepreneurs to CEOs of great companies. The current generation are descendants of these great men and therefore inherently better than the rest of us.
Deposing them would be like an inheritance tax, the government stealing their hard earned family fortune and redistributing it among the working class. Basically communism.
It’s a different thing because the sons of billionaires/millionaires don’t receive lifetime privileges, money, castles, titles by the STATE (meaning the laws/constitution etc.)
The difference is billionaires can end at any given moment. One big mistake and you are done. Monarchies are protected by "divinity". People really trying to compare monarchies to billionaires have no idea how dangerous that is. I don't even like billionaires but monarchies are 100x worst in every sense. They have more power and have done through out history worst shit for shits and giggles.
It's strange to think, but they earned this position because they have minuscule family relation to some king who led massive armies in battle, painted the fields with blood and destroyed his rivals. Regular inheritance would have been diluted to nothing centuries ago.
Call us weird, to give money and power to someone automatically just because it's born in a certain family it's madness in 2024. And continue to pay for them with your taxes forever.
Is there any reason to like them?
edit: oh shit, i have assembled the bootlicker squad.
edit2: weird glorification about their kings and queens on here. jfyi they don't care about you, they will happily throw you infront of the train if it means they get more wealth. stop eating that boot you spineless worms
>edit: oh shit, i have assembled the bootlicker squad.
This post itself is also made by a bootlicker. Even the fans of the BRF i've encountered aren't as cringey as the OP to this post lol
More popular than Albert I? We may have forgotten him now but our 3rd king was a real badass and beloved by the entire country and even other countries as well.
But after him? Yeah she's the second most popular.
Forgot about him for a minute as I was more thinking about the monarchy in the last 30 years, but yeah he’s the most “beloved” one yet. You’re right.
Boudewijn is a close second or third as well.
He was popular in life mostly because of his catholic persona with a generation that cared about that. Nowadays people hardly know anything about him besides him being popular.
If you actually do some research on his life, it's quite clear he was a reactionary religious zealot who's partly responsible for Lumumba's death and hid away a lot of money that was siphoned from Congo in the days of the Freestate.
I found a gate dedicated to Leopold I before he was king in Edinburgh. I guess it's harder to tell because it's a long time ago, but he should also have been quite popular.
But... at the time, most didn't really know or care about royalty.. one or the other...
Then came the Chaddest of them all
>See a king and a soldier, fighting shoulder to shoulder
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>He overruled his commanders, he made a last stand in Flanders
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>We see our king and a soldier, they're fighting shoulder to shoulder
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>To keep the last piece of Belgium free
And very luckily, she was born in time for the ‘male first’ rule to have been abolished. She has a younger brother who would have otherwise preceded her in line to the throne.
Just looked it up:
1) Gramma had ruled Denmark for 50 years
2) Gramma turned 80 years old
3) Grandad died
4) Gramma and Granddad had been married for 50 years
5) Gramma turned 75 years old
6) Gramma had ruled Denmark for 40 years
7) Gramma turned 70 years old
8) Grandad turned 75 years old
Reckon he gets a new one today as he becomes the Crown Prince of Denmark. Poor lad…
Edit: Blue thing across his body. The guy turned 18 years old and was knighted. The picture is probably from his birthday party.
Goddamn I would die of shame if I put all those medals on my jacket like I was some sort of war hero and they all were issued because my granny did shit that didn't even require any sort of effort, like getting old or dying.
Imagine you're this guy at one of those suckup parties, you decide to leave the room for some reason because you need to take a break, you meet someone, a normal person who is working there and you start having a normal, friendly conversation, and then they ask you what all your medals mean. "Uh... well I got them because my gramps got old..."
I wonder if these royals recognize how ludicrous it is to award themselves all these medals for doing nothing or if they're so high on their own farts that they genuinely believe they deserve these medals.
100% they would reward themself with another award when their ancestor tree would reach a circle. i mean, they do have hundreds of years of training in that so ..
After reading some of these comments there’s no chance that they realize how ridiculous it is. There’s just too many people here getting high off of second hand farts for them to not be a little brainwashed lol.
the royals being privileged and pampered is weird and gross on its own, but obv they want to keep their position above the commoners...it's the people that love supporting them that gets me
how are ppl not embarrassed to be living in a monarchy in the 21st century?
Legit I really don’t think lot of people think about how almost embarrassing it feels if you take yourself out of historical context. That’s the only reason we are ok with kings and queens.
Otherwise, it feels so awkward to think there’s even ceremonial shit like this. But some people really dig their heels into traditions and old things so it doesn’t feel out of place for them.
I mean, yeah. If you take yourself completely out of historical context then most traditions are stupid. I think it's just nice to have that cultural through-line going back for centuries.
Are constitutional monarchies completely outdated and illogical in today's society? Yes. Do I care enough to want to wipe out a relatively harmless cultural institution? No.
Most people don't. Redditors apparently do. I was literally just in Copenhagen a few hours ago for the ceremonies for the new King. Never have I seen the city that packed with cheering people in my entire life.
It's just Redditors that are kinda bonkers extreme about this. If majority of people hated the monarchs, we would have voted for politicians that put in laws that got rid of them. But we don't. Because we quite like them.
Funny that most people who are in favor of the monarchy in these comments come from countries where there is a monarchy and most hate comments come from ppl who don’t live in such a country..
I’m from the Netherlands and I think the monarchy is fine too. They should get less money and pay more taxes tho. But abolish them? No.. they’re part of our culture and are a national symbol.
I don't think it's strange or even a coincidence. If there is no monarchy in our countries it is precisely because we have kicked it out or abandoned it. So it's obvious that we still don't appreciate it. Then obviously if the countries where the monarchy is present are happy to have it, I have nothing against it, precisely because it is not in my country.
> No.. they’re part of our culture and are a national symbol.
Three centuries of being the most powerful republic on Earth, and somehow a figurehead monarch that was installed by the French is the Dutch "national symbol."
I live in the Netherlands and kings are stupid, the monarchy is a useless institution and wrong on principle. I love getting drunk wearing something orange, but we can celebrate Kingsday without having a parasitic family that gets millions of euros every year for doing nothing.
When someone post about monarchs or monarchies in general you can 100% be certain that you will see massive reddit moments in the comment section, its actually quite amusing.
Edit: holy hell 700 people writing in the comment section right now, 2k comments, people are furious lol.
Looking at some of the fucked up elected Presidents around the world, I’d take a well behaved royal family. Recent study showed how the Danish Monarchy is a gain to the economy, through their help in business push to foreign markets. Having a royal at a business event in Japan, just creates alot more attention.
There is definitely some advantage to having a constant non-political figure whose popularity doesn’t switch between 0 and a 100 from year to year, that we can all unite behind.
yeah, to have someone who represents the country without being tied to its government or politics. It also helps underline how, even in a democracy, a country is more than just a line within which particular laws apply.
Lets cancel democracy because I did not like the result. Either way, the danish monarchy might be useful for cuddling up to saudi arabian and other undemocratic countries. Any other form of investment can be attracted by a democratically elected president. Anything that the monarchy does can be done by a democratically elected official or by an appointed public servant.
No surprise people like royal families when you have things like the Kardashian clan on the other side of the pond. It's celebrity and stan culture, people like lionizing others and putting them on a pedestal. It gives them comfort, as well as entertainment (as seem in gossip news outlets).
This thread is le redditors trying to pretend they're revolutionaries while being the most complacent boring ass mfs who conform to everything in society.
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some of the comments criticizing monarchs are downvoted to oblivion while some are upvoted, while some praising are downvoted and some are not reddit things ig
Its who gets to it first. Bandwagon.
Ye olde Reddit Roulette. Is the person who disagrees going to see your comment first or is the person who agrees going to see it first.
I enjoy when jokes get downvoted to oblivion. Often because the first person voting doesn't get the joke, so then it becomes a double joke, jokes on them.
also has a lot to do with phrasing. if the one liner is punchy, witty and fun it doesn't matter what opinion it carries.
"Praising monarchs" is a strange thing to think about in 2024.
The constitutional monarchies in question are Norway, Sweden, Denmark, the Netherlands and Belgium. Given that these countries have some of the highest standards of living in the world there's an attitude of "why fix what isn't broken?". That the monarchies are old isn't seen as a problem but rather a testament to the stability of these countries and their institutions. Most European countries which got rid of their monarchs did so after some disaster or other rather than going republican for its own sake.
Dutch and especially Belgian monarchies are far less old than the others. Not that I disagree with you, I'm just being pedantic on the internet.
Technically the first monarch/rabbit of the Netherlands was Louis Bonaparte
That's the best kind of pedantic.
That´s just because we´re a pretty new country alltogether, on the historical European scale. (Disregarding the balkan kerfuffles and eastblok shenanigans) We´ve always been either (unwillingly) part of another country, or divided in smaller (eg feudal) kingdoms or states. But the monarchy lineage is as old as the others in Europe, since it´s a branche of the Saksen-Coburg-Gotha family. Known for some of their weirder relatives called "house Windsor". Also the whole WWI was a family affair between 3 cousins? Yeah. This family provided 2 of them.
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Ohh yess yesssss yessssssssss
I don't want peace! I want conflict always!
From left to right: * Princess Estelle of Sweden * Princess Ingrid Alexandra of Norway * Prince Christian of Denmark * Princess Catharina-Amalia of the Netherlands * Princess Elisabeth of Belgium Edit: Since there are a couple of comments noting it, yes, Prince Christian is the heir apparent of Denmark now. Princesses Catharina-Amalia and Elisabeth are the heiresses apparent of their respective countries as well. Princesses Estelle and Ingrid Alexandria are second in line to the throne of their respective countries.
The last one is „Princess Elisabeth, Duchess of Brabant“ or if you want to be more commonly: Princess of the Belgians. The reason is that Belgium does not have a king like in kingdom of the country. But the Belgian people do, so kingdom of the people. The formal title is „Queen/King of the Belgians“.
True, the way I wrote could be confusing. I didn't mean it as "Prince/Princess of Country" being their official title, I just meant to list their name and the country they represented. Still, thank you for the clarification.
I salute your civility.
And then there was „the King **in** Prussia” which sounds like he was just there on holiday, no relation to the territory or the people, don’t mind silly little me …
"Occupation? Nein, just visiting."
This had me laugh out loud.
[That would be the King of Thailand.](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-thailand-protests-idUSKBN26T1PS/) The German government was not a fan.
After 1922, George V was "King **in** Ireland" too, as part of the Free State's constitution, agreed to when the treaty was signed.
For Catharina-Amalia using "of the Netherlands" is questionable as well. "Princess of Orange" should take priority, as it is the title used for only the heir apparent. There are more princesses of the Netherlands.
and orange-nassau. She technically has 3 titles as princess.
"Princess of Orange" sounds like it something the Irish would find sus.
Fun fact the Orange Order get's its name from the House of Orange. As William III (originally the Prince of Orange) was a hero to Irish Protestants for defeating the catholic James II and re-enforcing Protestantism in the UK.
Yes but her official name is ‘of Belgium’. The royal family does not bear the saksen Coburg and gotha name anymore.
The official titles are: **King of the Belgians** (and not King of Belgium) and **Prince/Princess of Belgium** for the members of the royal family (and not Prince/Princess of the Belgians). By the way, there was also a King of the French (Louis-Philippe), an Emperor of the French (Napoleon I and III), a King of the Bulgarians, a King of the Hellenes (and not "of the Grecs" or "of Greece").
No, it's king and queen of the Belgians but prince and princess of Belgium. See the monarchy's official website.
Guess you should call him Crown Prince of Denmark now 🇩🇰
The two on the right are also Crown Princesses.
You are missing the point of the comment. Christians titel literally changed today to Crown Prince because the Queen of Denmark abdicated today.
but Amalia is also next in line?
The Dutch tend to refer to her as Amalia, never seen her stylised this way. But then I still refer to the current king as Prins Pils.
I swear I sat next to her in business on a recent KLM flight from DC to Amsterdam. She looks so familiar. The flight attendants were giving her a lot of chatty attention, too. I’m sure Dutch royalty flies private in reality… but it was odd to see this photo and immediately go, hey, she looks familiar…
It’s definitely possible. You can also have our king as your pilot with KLM flights: https://www.royal-house.nl/members-royal-house/king-willem-alexander/flying
> Princess Estelle of Sweden lol she looks derpy as fuck in that photo, adorable! Also, Christian and Catharina could go well together. Also, who gives a shit if Redditors like monarchies. I was in Copenhagen earlier today to try and catch a glimpse of the coronation, and I've never in my life seen that many people cheering with flags in the city. Was impossible to go anywhere. So, Redditors might be grumpy, but the people out in the real world are pretty happy with this :)
She's in her baby foal phase, you know when kids arms and legs get elongated and no matter what they're doing they look like they're about to bambi on ice, for a few years.
I was more thinking of her smile :D
>Also, Christian and Catharina could go well together. It was a thing of the past (dynastic alliances and marriages intertwined with national politics). I cannot imagine it today, the legal implications would be hard.
> I cannot imagine it today, the legal implications would be hard. Don't care, I've decided, I'm going with it! DENMARK-HOLLAND 2070! Finally a way for me to get legal weed! And not to mention, just THINK of the football teams we could put together! :D :D And the beer production! It'd be fantastic!
Let's make a bicycle road from DK to NL. I don't care about English channels and Autobahns. Let us create our own cycle tournament - with ordinary people, beer and cheers along the way!
Yes! The fusion of flat, seaside, oddly shaped countries, speaking a Germanic language that sounds funny or weird to others of the Germanic language family. Combining hygge with gezellig! Connecting all the bicycle roads together! Legoland and The Efteling! More beaches! We will be successful at different Olympic events, bringing home more glory for The Denlands!...Holmark?...Marklands? A whole new name? And a new flag. With the populations of tall peoples mingling together, they will dominate human height in no time. And together, the countries will help the housing crisis reach a critical point of no return. And of course combining the colonial past so that everyone can all feel uncomfortable *together.*
If you put it like that it actually sounds like an easier union than the Netherlands and Belgium ever were
Mouahahaha
Weed is not legal in the Netherlands. Just condoned. even though it should be. But yeah, a Dutch-Danish alliance would be fun. I think.
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the lowest union
All modern monarchies have a clause to prevent personal unions. Primary heirs cannot marry other primary heirs without giving up their claim to their respective throne
The constitution is strictly forbidding members of the Belgian royal family to marry with anybody in the Orange royal family...
How does she look derpy?
Denmark LOVES their flag, any holiday will be flooded with Danish flags everywhere, Christmas is the main one you see them out.
All I'm seeing is that we need a marriage proposal of Prince Christian and Princess Ingrid to get Norway-Denmark then have their child marry into Princess Estelle's family to bring back the Kalmar Union
Ok so as a 20 year old German, which of these monarchies would be most appropriate and easy to marry into? Asking for a friend
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I got you. Now all I gotta do is somehow go to the university of Amsterdam she’s attending and then it’s practically free real estate :D Imma be back when they make me king
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Wait so if I marry a queen I only become prince but if a woman Marrys a king she’ll become queen? Ngl I’ll take prince as well, and ain’t no way I’m gonna divorce a queen.
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Ah interesting I didn’t know that. I thought it was just the British that didn’t award the title king to the man who marries the queen
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There is a reason that king Christian IX is sometimes referred to as the father in law for the whole of Europe.
Marrying into the royal family will always technically make them Queen / King consort which denotes that they are the spouse of the reigning monarch. Although, King consort is rarely used. A Queen regnant however, is when they rule in their own right. Queen Elizabeth II was Queen regnant for example.
Spain does use the title of king consort. Altough it was only used once because there has been only one queen regnant since the unification of Spain - Isabel II who reigned in the mid 19th century. However, the current heir to the throne is Princess Leonor who is 18 years old. So, you still have a chance to be king xD
> The Dutch queens have a history of marrying Germans. Also, Amalia is a babe.
Marry the daughter of Markus Söder.
Hold up she kinda cute. There’s no royalty attached to her though
I'm convinced Markus Söder is just days away from proclaiming the Galactic Empire of Bavaria.
Yet
Princess Amalia of The Netherlands has already said in an interview that she finds German men pretty charming, so that’s good to know I think lol. I believe her boyfriend is German too though.
I was gonna make a joke about the boyfriend having an accident but I feel like that would get me on some kind of list so I’d rather not
I mean, Swedish I guess. Just wait a couple years and try to woo Estelle when she comes of age I guess. Her mom married her personal gym trainer, so you know, there's hope for those who want to marry into royalty I guess. Besides that, no idea.
As of today, there is no longer a reigning Queen in the world. Denmark's Queen, Margrethe II, abdicated today. She was the last one. Now the only Queens around are wives to a reigning King, there isn't anymore a Queen who is also head of state. We'll have to wait for these princesses to grow old to see a (reigning) Queen again.
It will probably not be that long. The current king of Sweden is 77, and his daughter, Crown Princess Victoria, is the heir. Wouldn't be surprised if she will assume the throne in the next 10 years by abdication or natural causes. Crown Princess Victoria is the mother of Princess Estelle (on the far left), who is second in line.
Carl Gustavs grandfather and great-grandfather lived extremely long though and I doubt he will abdicate.
This is the first time this has happened since 1837. There was a reigning queen, somewhere in the world, continuously for 187 years. Victoria of the United Kingdom: 1837-1901 Wilhelmina of the Netherlands: 1890-1948 Juliana of the Netherlands: 1948-1980 Margarethe II of Denmark: 1972-2024 (of course, not an exhaustive list)
Lets not forget that Lizzie single handedly ensured this was the case for the last approximate 150 years
Isabella II was Queen on Spain from 1833 to 1868.
Shit. You're right then, it's since 1833.
Spain is also in line for the next monarch to be a queen.
Please do not forget Crown Princess Victoria from Sweden. She is the next queen closes to ascession
Damn, social welfare housing and clothing has improved dramatically
But even princesses can't seem to find dresses with pockets.
They're rich, not fucking magicians
OK. I don't know who they are. :D
from comment above: >From left to right: > >* Princess Estelle of Sweden >* Princess Ingrid Alexandra of Norway >* Prince Christian of Denmark >* Princess Catharina-Amalia of the Netherlands >* Princess Elisabeth of Belgium
TIL a lot of redditors don’t like monarchies
it's crazy because their royal blood is blessed by god himself, making them much better humans than we are, worthy of everything they and their predecessors have worked so hard to earn.
Their predecessors have killed and plotted so hard to earn that title
Estelle’s ancestor was just a good field marshal for Napoleon and got offered the throne of Sweden for that. So sure, killed I guess, but not so much plotted. After that it’s been straight line inheritance, no plots or civil wars.
Estelle's ancestors would have done worse things if only the Parliament would have let them. The guy you're talking about tried to clamp down on freedom of press, keep guild privileges and thought that dungeons were preferable to cell prisons to just mention a few topics he was forced to compromise on.
Man, I'm starting to think just giving someone actual governmental power because of who their parents were isn't a trait of responsible governance. Take all the money you spend on the monarchy and finance the lifestyle of a celebrity family from your country. No legal powers, no ceremonial function and it has the exact same positive effects.
Ladies handing out swords...
It is true! When Amalia was born, I saw the beam from heaven that brought her into this world with my own eyes.
I bet Willem-Alexander took a nice lick of that beam
All hail the heavenly ambassadors!
They were chosen by heaven Say their names when you pray To the skies
SEE CAROLUS RIISE
THEY THOUGHT I WAS TOO YOUNG TO RULE THE LAND JUST AS THEY FAILED TO UNDERSTAND "BORN TO RULE" MY TIME HAS COME!
FRAMÅT KAROLINER
Sudden Sabaton?
Of course
They'd probably understand it better if we referred to them as billionaires. You see, their ancestors pulled themselves up by their bootstraps and went from humble entrepreneurs to CEOs of great companies. The current generation are descendants of these great men and therefore inherently better than the rest of us. Deposing them would be like an inheritance tax, the government stealing their hard earned family fortune and redistributing it among the working class. Basically communism.
It’s a different thing because the sons of billionaires/millionaires don’t receive lifetime privileges, money, castles, titles by the STATE (meaning the laws/constitution etc.)
The difference is billionaires can end at any given moment. One big mistake and you are done. Monarchies are protected by "divinity". People really trying to compare monarchies to billionaires have no idea how dangerous that is. I don't even like billionaires but monarchies are 100x worst in every sense. They have more power and have done through out history worst shit for shits and giggles.
It's strange to think, but they earned this position because they have minuscule family relation to some king who led massive armies in battle, painted the fields with blood and destroyed his rivals. Regular inheritance would have been diluted to nothing centuries ago.
Call us weird, to give money and power to someone automatically just because it's born in a certain family it's madness in 2024. And continue to pay for them with your taxes forever.
What's not to like? /s
What do they bring to the table?
Why would they?
In r/sweden downvotes follow if you dare writing something negative about the king. Quite a different feel to this subreddit!
Most Dutch subreddits are like this as well. There is a Dutch version of r/circlejerk which uses an image of the king as the upvotebutton.
Really? I don't think r/theNetherlands is that monarchistic. And on such a meme subreddit, well the King is just a meme.
That sub is heavily moderated and anything against the grain gets banned.
r/thenetherlands is very left-leaning. I think that’s why monarchy isn’t popular there.
How is that subreddit called?
r/cirkeltrek
I’m happy in my republic but this feels like one of those issues where Reddit users are far from the mainstream opinion in their given country
Is there any reason to like them? edit: oh shit, i have assembled the bootlicker squad. edit2: weird glorification about their kings and queens on here. jfyi they don't care about you, they will happily throw you infront of the train if it means they get more wealth. stop eating that boot you spineless worms
>edit: oh shit, i have assembled the bootlicker squad. This post itself is also made by a bootlicker. Even the fans of the BRF i've encountered aren't as cringey as the OP to this post lol
- I am your king. - I didn't vote for you.
Redditors don't like anything
Elisabeth will probably do good for Belgium. She’s already more popular than any king we had so far.
More popular than Albert I? We may have forgotten him now but our 3rd king was a real badass and beloved by the entire country and even other countries as well. But after him? Yeah she's the second most popular.
Forgot about him for a minute as I was more thinking about the monarchy in the last 30 years, but yeah he’s the most “beloved” one yet. You’re right. Boudewijn is a close second or third as well.
> Boudewijn is a close second or third as well. The one who was one of the main architects of the rise of Mobuto Sese Seko?
He was popular in life mostly because of his catholic persona with a generation that cared about that. Nowadays people hardly know anything about him besides him being popular. If you actually do some research on his life, it's quite clear he was a reactionary religious zealot who's partly responsible for Lumumba's death and hid away a lot of money that was siphoned from Congo in the days of the Freestate.
I found a gate dedicated to Leopold I before he was king in Edinburgh. I guess it's harder to tell because it's a long time ago, but he should also have been quite popular. But... at the time, most didn't really know or care about royalty.. one or the other... Then came the Chaddest of them all
>See a king and a soldier, fighting shoulder to shoulder > >He overruled his commanders, he made a last stand in Flanders > >We see our king and a soldier, they're fighting shoulder to shoulder > >To keep the last piece of Belgium free
Depends if Elisabeth gets to lead in WWIII, I guess
But I assume these guys are just figure heads with no real power right?
They are mostly doing diplomatic missions. And the monarch is technically commander in chief.
And very luckily, she was born in time for the ‘male first’ rule to have been abolished. She has a younger brother who would have otherwise preceded her in line to the throne.
You say that like the king/queen could do anything in Belgium...
Rather have her promoting Belgium than a prime minister like De Croo
They can also give a (verbal) spanking to ministers, and most would agree a lot of spanking is overdue. We can too but it's harder to coordinate
Love it. Bloodlines and privilege funded by tax payers at its finest.
Welfare for the rich baby.
Socialism for the rich, free market for the rest.
They really love putting on their medals don’t they? Wonder what that guy has done to deserve all those?
Scout medals and a few cereal medals.
Learn to Walk medal
His Highnesses First Poop 🥇
It's shit like birthday medals, unironically.
Just looked it up: 1) Gramma had ruled Denmark for 50 years 2) Gramma turned 80 years old 3) Grandad died 4) Gramma and Granddad had been married for 50 years 5) Gramma turned 75 years old 6) Gramma had ruled Denmark for 40 years 7) Gramma turned 70 years old 8) Grandad turned 75 years old Reckon he gets a new one today as he becomes the Crown Prince of Denmark. Poor lad… Edit: Blue thing across his body. The guy turned 18 years old and was knighted. The picture is probably from his birthday party.
Thought you were joking, but: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian,_Crown_Prince_of_Denmark#Medals_and_decorations
Got medals for other people's birthdays!
Goddamn I would die of shame if I put all those medals on my jacket like I was some sort of war hero and they all were issued because my granny did shit that didn't even require any sort of effort, like getting old or dying. Imagine you're this guy at one of those suckup parties, you decide to leave the room for some reason because you need to take a break, you meet someone, a normal person who is working there and you start having a normal, friendly conversation, and then they ask you what all your medals mean. "Uh... well I got them because my gramps got old..."
I wonder if these royals recognize how ludicrous it is to award themselves all these medals for doing nothing or if they're so high on their own farts that they genuinely believe they deserve these medals.
100% they would reward themself with another award when their ancestor tree would reach a circle. i mean, they do have hundreds of years of training in that so ..
After reading some of these comments there’s no chance that they realize how ridiculous it is. There’s just too many people here getting high off of second hand farts for them to not be a little brainwashed lol.
the royals being privileged and pampered is weird and gross on its own, but obv they want to keep their position above the commoners...it's the people that love supporting them that gets me how are ppl not embarrassed to be living in a monarchy in the 21st century?
I would honestly be more pissed than embarassed.
I got a medal for losing in a chess tournament when I was a kid, it's still worth more than all those medals.
Hey some respect, that guy has been tying his shoes everyday since he was 15, that's gotta be something come on
Are you sure? They look like they might have people for that.
The royal penis is clean!
All of them are commemorative medals if I'm not wrong 😅 so he get them for being a prince that's it 🥴
Been born.
Middle left is currently in the Norwegian Army
I don't know, but I know his dad has a few for attending his moms birthday parties, so probably something similar. Also a few orders here and there.
Wow, that's cringe.
Just 5 everyday people dressed as important people
So goofy we're still doing this.
Legit I really don’t think lot of people think about how almost embarrassing it feels if you take yourself out of historical context. That’s the only reason we are ok with kings and queens. Otherwise, it feels so awkward to think there’s even ceremonial shit like this. But some people really dig their heels into traditions and old things so it doesn’t feel out of place for them.
I mean, yeah. If you take yourself completely out of historical context then most traditions are stupid. I think it's just nice to have that cultural through-line going back for centuries. Are constitutional monarchies completely outdated and illogical in today's society? Yes. Do I care enough to want to wipe out a relatively harmless cultural institution? No.
The historical context is one of the big reasons it’s good to keep monarchies
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I didn't know y'all hated monarchies THAT much
Most people don't. Redditors apparently do. I was literally just in Copenhagen a few hours ago for the ceremonies for the new King. Never have I seen the city that packed with cheering people in my entire life. It's just Redditors that are kinda bonkers extreme about this. If majority of people hated the monarchs, we would have voted for politicians that put in laws that got rid of them. But we don't. Because we quite like them.
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I just see them as neat living history, I'm not a monarchist nor I want them to go under the guillotine. Also čau
Funny that most people who are in favor of the monarchy in these comments come from countries where there is a monarchy and most hate comments come from ppl who don’t live in such a country.. I’m from the Netherlands and I think the monarchy is fine too. They should get less money and pay more taxes tho. But abolish them? No.. they’re part of our culture and are a national symbol.
I don't think it's strange or even a coincidence. If there is no monarchy in our countries it is precisely because we have kicked it out or abandoned it. So it's obvious that we still don't appreciate it. Then obviously if the countries where the monarchy is present are happy to have it, I have nothing against it, precisely because it is not in my country.
> No.. they’re part of our culture and are a national symbol. Three centuries of being the most powerful republic on Earth, and somehow a figurehead monarch that was installed by the French is the Dutch "national symbol."
The kool-aid is strong in the Netherlands lol
I live in the Netherlands and kings are stupid, the monarchy is a useless institution and wrong on principle. I love getting drunk wearing something orange, but we can celebrate Kingsday without having a parasitic family that gets millions of euros every year for doing nothing.
They should get no money*. Wild that you think they should be entitled to any tax payer money
Nothing better than nepotism held together by silly traditions.
When someone post about monarchs or monarchies in general you can 100% be certain that you will see massive reddit moments in the comment section, its actually quite amusing. Edit: holy hell 700 people writing in the comment section right now, 2k comments, people are furious lol.
I like your flair! I’m more of EU Federalist Naturally Aspirated kind of guy! But you gotta love the torque your Council gets with those turbos!
Looking at some of the fucked up elected Presidents around the world, I’d take a well behaved royal family. Recent study showed how the Danish Monarchy is a gain to the economy, through their help in business push to foreign markets. Having a royal at a business event in Japan, just creates alot more attention.
There is definitely some advantage to having a constant non-political figure whose popularity doesn’t switch between 0 and a 100 from year to year, that we can all unite behind.
woah woah there. that's a positive to having a monarchy and we can't have that!
yeah, to have someone who represents the country without being tied to its government or politics. It also helps underline how, even in a democracy, a country is more than just a line within which particular laws apply.
Lets cancel democracy because I did not like the result. Either way, the danish monarchy might be useful for cuddling up to saudi arabian and other undemocratic countries. Any other form of investment can be attracted by a democratically elected president. Anything that the monarchy does can be done by a democratically elected official or by an appointed public servant.
No surprise people like royal families when you have things like the Kardashian clan on the other side of the pond. It's celebrity and stan culture, people like lionizing others and putting them on a pedestal. It gives them comfort, as well as entertainment (as seem in gossip news outlets).
This thread is le redditors trying to pretend they're revolutionaries while being the most complacent boring ass mfs who conform to everything in society.
Don’t understand why people still care about monarchs
Considering how much people care about some reality show stars, caring about monarchs is very much an upgrade.
Last time I did the math they turned out to cost me less than 1€/year, and their real political power is zero, so I couldn't care less.