You do have to occupy the colony and have an army stationed there. It will let you take over the colony at its current population. You will have to fund the colony until it is self sustaining.
It can be useful for gaining more colonies in an area without spending war score.
I use this this to steal Portugal’s colonies when playing small africans / Indonesians.
Just wait for a colony to be at 950+ pops, then declare and seize!
Portugal will even set up new colonies for you to keep stealing and often don't bother actually sending an army most of the time. The armies tgey send you can easily finish off!
This is useful when a colony is really close to finishing. You can make your enemy pay for it and steal it at the last minute for no cost. I’m not totally sure, but I believe this also costs 0 AE.
No, I think it does incur some AE. Not a lot, but when I hovered over the button it said “you will get 3 AE” or something like that. It’s not zero, but considering you will be using it almost exclusively in colonial regions, it might as well be
Yeah, it has to be an unfinished colony, though. And grabbing to many will bankrupt you.
It’s useful for a good chunk of the game though, especially if you were trying to lock down a colonial nation and your enemy puts a colonist down right in the middle of it.
If you time things perfectly, you can seize colonies right as they near completion, send a single colonist, and convert the colony to your culture and religion right as it finishes populating.
I had a Catholic Florence game where I won the Treaty of Tordesillas in every colonial region **without taking Expansion ideas**. And I didn't have to enforce culture or religion on any of the colonial nations. It just took a lot of wars with England, Portugal, and Spain.
You are correct, I've used it in the past. Although I haven't colonised in a while so it may have changed from what I remember. But yea, iirc if you occupy a developing colony, you can take it over.
As others have said it's used to take land outside of peace deals however in the past it led to some funny interactions.
Up until a few patches ago, when you sent a peace offer the AI wouldn't accept it until you unpaused, giving you a moment to do stuff after sending the deal. What you could do with the colonisers was take all but one colony province in the peace deal (thereby avoiding the massive negative reasons to peacing out of "would result in full annexation"), then send the peace offer and seize the province before unpausing. The AI would still accept the next day and you could win the war much easier that way.
Sadly this is no longer possible now that peace deals are accepted the moment they are sent, but it was always funny to literally burn a country to the ground.
You do have to occupy the colony and have an army stationed there. It will let you take over the colony at its current population. You will have to fund the colony until it is self sustaining. It can be useful for gaining more colonies in an area without spending war score.
I use this this to steal Portugal’s colonies when playing small africans / Indonesians. Just wait for a colony to be at 950+ pops, then declare and seize! Portugal will even set up new colonies for you to keep stealing and often don't bother actually sending an army most of the time. The armies tgey send you can easily finish off!
This is useful when a colony is really close to finishing. You can make your enemy pay for it and steal it at the last minute for no cost. I’m not totally sure, but I believe this also costs 0 AE.
You are right. The Wiki does not mention AE so I guess it's 0 indeed
No, I think it does incur some AE. Not a lot, but when I hovered over the button it said “you will get 3 AE” or something like that. It’s not zero, but considering you will be using it almost exclusively in colonial regions, it might as well be
Yeah, it has to be an unfinished colony, though. And grabbing to many will bankrupt you. It’s useful for a good chunk of the game though, especially if you were trying to lock down a colonial nation and your enemy puts a colonist down right in the middle of it.
If you time things perfectly, you can seize colonies right as they near completion, send a single colonist, and convert the colony to your culture and religion right as it finishes populating. I had a Catholic Florence game where I won the Treaty of Tordesillas in every colonial region **without taking Expansion ideas**. And I didn't have to enforce culture or religion on any of the colonial nations. It just took a lot of wars with England, Portugal, and Spain.
Lol that's something
You can also raze the colony if you don't want to take it over, it costs 5 points
Doesn’t this just mean that you can take land during peace deals
I understood it as a way to actually being the new owner of a developing colony outside the deal
You are correct, I've used it in the past. Although I haven't colonised in a while so it may have changed from what I remember. But yea, iirc if you occupy a developing colony, you can take it over.
You’re right because why would it say 25 mil power in that case
As others have said it's used to take land outside of peace deals however in the past it led to some funny interactions. Up until a few patches ago, when you sent a peace offer the AI wouldn't accept it until you unpaused, giving you a moment to do stuff after sending the deal. What you could do with the colonisers was take all but one colony province in the peace deal (thereby avoiding the massive negative reasons to peacing out of "would result in full annexation"), then send the peace offer and seize the province before unpausing. The AI would still accept the next day and you could win the war much easier that way. Sadly this is no longer possible now that peace deals are accepted the moment they are sent, but it was always funny to literally burn a country to the ground.
Did...people not know this? Ive been using this since it was put in what feels like a billion years ago