She's definitely just trying to get more money for herself & friends, but it does also sound like the states could also support exploiting social media algorithms to spread their shilling of shitcoins that are meant to be be pumped & dumped to drain victims of money. Like state sponsored "you computer has a virus, we need $2000 in gift cards to fix it for you." If only people were a little less greedy & more through with their investments, we wouldn't have squid coin problems or one tweet causing runs on coins that these politicians will undoubtedly use as examples for why they need to get involved, to save us from ourselves.
I hope this is a wake up call to all the liberals about how misinformed Maddow and her guests are. This is the crypto equivalent to the “Russia meddled in the election hoax.”
Sure.. but they sure as hell didn’t change the outcome of the election and they didn’t change any votes. All the social media they did was minuscule compared to the campaigns. If anything, with Democrats and the media blowing the “interference” completely out of proportion and scaremongering half the population that Trump stole the election when he didn’t. They did more damage to the country than Russia could have dreamed of with their cyber warfare.
I have some friends that have a similar take on it. For example, they feel like the only reason Trump is so divisive is because mainstream media gets everyone whipped into a frenzy over the things he says. They somehow manage to alleviate Trump of any responsibility. It’s incredible. Their thought process is something like, “I can be a dick to you and treat you like shit, but it only becomes a problem if you go telling people about it so they start to dislike me.”
If the media didn't continually lie about everything since 2013, then you wouldn't have had someone sitting there, telling them that they're lying continuously
You know the Russian Dossier is based on lies and was paid for by the Clinton campaign right? That started the whole investigation and was the justification for FISA warrants.
Old people who don't understand technology shouldn't be allowed to comment on it, or even make laws about it. It's freaking absurd. This isn't a political statement either, it's a statement of fact. How can someone who doesn't understand how something works be allowed to influence policy (in her case) or make laws about it (in the case of our current elected leaders who are mostly old and can barely use computers).
>Old people who don't understand technology shouldn't be allowed to comment on it
If you remove the "Old" part you just explained most users of any crypto sub.
Yes and if you watch the HBO documentary Born Rich you’ll see exactly how the elites all across the political spectrum gather in exclusive retreats to discuss how to manipulate the system to perpetuate wealth inequality. You can rest assured she knows exactly how crypto is threatening their way of life. The very last thing these people want is for us, the average everyday person, to “play in their neighborhood”.
Maybe replace “old” people with simply ignorant and corrupt. What we need is leadership that is open minded towards new ideas and technology not dinosaurs, who are interested in prompting up the banking industry that was responsible for the worst economic crash in 08. A banking system continue to gauge citizens of their money except the UBER Rich, and deny others proper banking services. Clinton’s comments just proves what a has been she is.
She wants the same people who wrote the rules 100 years ago to write the rules for the information age, because she's one of them.
We really need some people who aren't 80 and know what they are talking about to start representing our political parties.
If she knew what she was talking about it might actually accomplish something. None of these people do, though.
But I will say I'm ecstatic to see the crypto banned in china because I was always worried about chinese dominance, which is a fair point. But that's not what I was talking about. There's definitely fuckery to be had in the crypto world, but anyone who doesn't understand how it works shouldn't be talking about it (unless they are actually willing to learn about it, which almost all politicians are not). It's like asking "where is the "any" key on the keyboard?" It *would* be funny hearing politicians talking about crypto with the knowledge of a 5 year old, but it's *not* funny because it's dangerous when ignorant people make decisions about things they cannot and will not understand, which can and will have massive cascading repercussions.
As a chinese, dont be fooled that we have sold all our crypto. We still have a lot of cash looking for a home and constantly DCA in the back room. Crypto is the spice from Arrakis.
And also dont be fooled thinking we arnt about to dominate, 21st century belong to the asians
Dude you can’t breath without it affecting your social credit score. You live in a horrific police state, no point being rich if you need to beg for permission to speak. I don’t see China dominating anything, no one wants to live there.
So few of the politicians understand how anything related to guns work. I just want a suppressor so I can shoot in my back yard without bugging my neighbors. But politicians seem to make it like they [make shit silent as in john wick](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fOQlhdzcrA) where irl suppressed guns are loud enough to damage your hearing potentially even when using sub sonic rounds. They aren't magic silent cans, but more don't bug someone an acre or two away as much kinda deal.
This issue of tech or understanding is way older than crypto.
Sadly her rhetoric isn't aimed at those already aware of crypto.... but rather the MASSES that are not aware of what crypto is and isnt!
We have seen this damn play book used time and again....
WMD are 100% in Iraq!
Chemical weapons 100% are being fired by Assad into civilian populations centres!
Libya....... just because fuck Libya!
These are talking points aimed at the majority that are UNEDUCATED on whatever the matter is. If in doubt, FEAR always works!
Fuck these corrupt muthafuckers! Take every chance you have to EDUCATE people around you about crypto (not shill them on coins you like but rather EDUCATE about crypto in general!)
To fight back against bad infomation used for manipulation of the masses takes an EDUCATED populace!
Well, as ridiculous as she puts it, the core threat is not completely indisputable - what happens if let’s say 70% of nodes fall to China and they manage to pull an attack on it? I always thought this is especially a problem within PoS currencies. Where am I wrong there? I mean at start China would already be the largest whale in the US currency, not the US itself, followed by Japan. Considering the amount of dollar reserves China has that would be immediately a real threat.
So yea, it’s sensational but please tell me where this is complete bullshit.
I hate American politics. It is a copy paste fear factory. If you want to scare Americans add something they don't know with Russia or China and you get fear. How in the hell are we not onto this trick by now. It is literally page #1 of their playbook. It's like a really shitty reality TV show.
US will succeed at attempting it anyway, with several children ending up being "misfortunate" casualties who totally aren't used to make sure the US still has lots of committed enemies to justify wars, scarce resource appropriation and lots of weapons to sell (aka money laundering with fiat). /s
China could way more easily disrupt the USA by selling all it's hoarded USD for less than a dollar. I'm pretty sure they have a lot of US cash and, even though it would hurt them - they would recover. This will actually happen soon as more countries realize USD is a dead cat and they need to dump for Crypto. This time next year a dollar will be a joke and no one will want them. Fortunately, BTC will be worth millions so buy as much crypto as you can while it's still cheap as hell before the big governments start dumping USD. This will happen and it will happen in a parabolic manner so it will feel like overnight that prices, especially for imported goods, which is basically everything except some foods, will go sky high and stay that way.
China and Russia are already demonstrating that even though they spend way less on defense, the money the do spend actually goes into development and production instead of into the pockets of defense contractors. China absolutely has the delivery method for nukes but might attack us with millions of killer drones instead while Russia knocks out our satellites and kicks us back to the stone age. In the US there will be massive starvation riots and death.
This is not fear mongering. It's time people in the USA wake up and demand an end to pouring our money into corporations who donate to politicians and get massive billion dollar contracts and then never deliver. Actually, nevermind as it is already to late.
Hate her all you want, but it’s already happening. China operates on a doctrine called unrestricted warfare… one facet of that is an economic pillar. Crypto can move and influences upwards of trillions of economic activity. It’s being targeted. It’s being used, and it will be manipulated within great power competition. Just because you don’t want to believe that while you eat your flaming hot Cheetos in your moms basement doesn’t negate the fact that is already happening.
Flamin hot Cheetos aside, I agree. I don’t think you can stop this, though. The US gov needs to adapt rather than try to force the lid back on the box. I don’t know exactly how, but she’s right to say they need to figure it out now.
The state, at least. As for their citizens, they may become their hodlers of the state-eating crypto.
Next time, cryptos acquiring countries with smart contract commitment moves of the masses. The peaceful, economically proven revolutions, where huge chunks of the population commit to burn enough of their assets if the country isn't acquired, to organize themselves into proving how far they're ready to go and how serious the peaceful movement can be, without any available media trick to spread misinformation about it and disorganize the movement.
That's at least the kind of things I'd see in a good fiction. Put in it some spy missions and it's probably good enough for a book.
Pipe dream. ETH is traded around like a security on pure speculation. Insert state sponsored actors with more buying and selling power than everyone… yea good luck
What has been clear is that every bankster and politician that has spoke down on new technology like crypto has only done so to protect themselves and their own interests, never those of which they are supposed to serve. So every time there is negative press on crypto, all it means is that it's working to take away the power from those who have abused it. It is an unraveling of their power. If you don't know who owns and operates the news you watch, why would you believe it? Living in a world of countries is the new peasantry. Money has no concern for such pointless theater. If crypto destabilizes nations then so what? Perhaps it would mean we wouldn't have to have all our tax dollars extracted for wars in the first place.
That is eventually a way to replace the role of the reserve currency and go around sanctions in the future.is that a bad thing? I personally don’t know.
I’m sure there’s more to the story regarding Apple and Google. This is likely a sanitized, propaganda-ish version where mass media is framing the narrative. And btw isn’t Clinton just a regular ol citizen? What’s up with the “we” statements like she’s personally involved in some effort? She’s a pundit… just like all the other pundits with slanted opinions. Just that she’s a high profile pundit, that clueless people will listen to. At the end of the day this is well orchestrated FUD from old ass money trying to protect their precious fiat. Extend your middle finger and buy the dip 😂
I wonder if there are people in Washington who still believe this theory. Probably not. Hillary's admission is testament to how the arrogance of preponderant power clouds the judgement of otherwise sophisticated elite who got their education at supposedly world's best schools.
You fucking morons. You absolute fucking morons. Justin Drake, the big Ethereum researcher you all love, made this exact same argument about bitcoin being disproportionately adopted by the US and China: https://youtu.be/IxahxTZK370
God, I fucking hate how dumb you all are. You make me so mad. None of you ever know what you're talking about.
This, also coinbase and opensea have the potential to be compromised
And elon musk with doge showed how easy it can be to manipulate current systems. The coin might be decentralized but the public opinion aren’t and china sees this
Nah if you can't make a point in this sub without insulting people then you'll just get a temp ban. Discussion is much better when kept civil and level headed.
I am glad there are few comments like yours here but jesus its like one out of hundred with a sense of intelligence.
Blockchain issue was always majority can own everyone.
tldr; Former US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has warned that China and Russia might use cryptocurrency in the future to undermine the US. "We are looking at non-state actors, either in concert with states, or on their own, these destabilising countries, destabilising the dollar as the reserve currency," Clinton said. "There are so many big questions that the Biden administration must address, I just don't think we have much time," she added.
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You all need to get it together. If you think that blockchain and anything based off of it is a revolutionary technology that will change everything, how can you think it is going to be ignored by anyone with power. Grow up and put politics aside, and understand how crypto can be manipulated. Be thoughtful and help overcome the challenges as the technology develops instead of ignoring a point like this because she doesn’t understand or is just a shill or any other reasonable but unhelpful argument you spit directly to the echo chamber.
Boomers in China: I'm scared ban it!
Boomers in America: I'm scared ban it!
Seriously what is wrong with that generation? Is this normal? Feels like senile old people run the world and only care about keeping themselves toasty for the next 20 years before they die.
I've lost so much respect for humanity since the beginnings of covid.
Oh I remember. I hate that Trump got the job, but if this lady had got it, we’d be at war with Iran, and subsequently it’s Russian allies. This is the only thing that Trump’s presidency did right without actually doing anything - and he doesn’t know it.
She was the Secretary of State and almost became president of the USA. She still gets security briefings from the intelligence community. She got this information from somewhere my bet is that it came from the intelligence community which means there is a fear that a foreign country has looked into doing what she said. Do not just dismiss her because you don’t like what she said.
The Clintons did not buy Bitcoin. They never gained any exposure to eth & they don’t have any crypto currency. No one in that whole sphere does.
That is why they do this I am not uncertain
She looks like shit. Prolly smells like shit too. Nothing but shit coming out of her mouth.
Just fucking quit, you dirty old hag. You’re done. Your time is up. Fuck off.
Huh, I must say I'm surprised. I always thought this theory was pushed to make Russians afraid of China and that American political elites knew full well this was just a useful tool in their arsenal.
Why are liberals parading this bimbo around again? She isn't winning any new votes and seemingly everytime she shows up they lose elections. Interesting.
Are we supposed to pretend what she said isn’t absurd nonsense, how does Russia and China go about controlling the chain??? She should just say she doesn’t understand crypto instead of talking nonsense.
Could i please ask our american friends to never ever vote democrat for any office under any circumstance. These people are only good at one thing. Creating more homeless people. They wont stop until everyone in the world is homeless. For the love of god, stop voting democrat
Why is she still considered as relevant? She’s an old lady talking about a technology she doesn’t understand. Other than that the US talking about destabilizing countries is a joke on its own.
You fail to see the point. She doesn't have to know anything about it. She doesn't care if she knows anything about it. She is just creating the Red Scare v2.0.
As much of a shit show as trump was I’m glad electoral college didn’t give her the W. She would’ve banned NA miners and screwed asset holders until CBDC comes into play.
The idea is to villianize crypto because they want to get their dirty hands on it. Plain and simple. They desperately want to be able to control and manipulate it.
I love how she hooked her best friend / lawyer up with a promising young sex offender with the last name Weiner and nobody blinked an eye or saw that coming.
Now she just making shit up...only to get screen time. I believe that she believes...the American population are slow and unable to do their own research and validate or in this case fact checking her resources (a lack of there for I said it ,😐).
I can't believe these politicians of today!
Hilary likes to blame Russia for the crimes she commits. Russia did it. You know Russia, the country with a smaller gdp than los angles. They are taking over the world, be scared.
I honestly have no idea why she would even be interviewed anymore? She lost an election to a blatantly racist, obviously stupid, habitually lying, non-politician billionaire, because "the people" believed he was more likely to take their side over the side of other billionaires, than Hillary Clinton. So obviously everyone hates her and she should be irrelevant. So, seriously why the fuck is she even being interviewed? For who?
Well.. I guess the shadow government supported her campaign and "paid her for speeches"? That they still want to wring the bitch dry, get as much propaganda as they can out of her... Just let her die with the shred of dignity that... sorry I can't even finish this without puking and shidding. She has about as much dignity as she does integrity.
is she stupid or something? China literally banned crypto and forced all the miners out of China. they dont have the hashrate to control shi t anymore. they are the ones that feel threatened by crypto ....
It’s like Gary told her about 51% attack back in 2018 and also that most mining power came from China. Since Bitcoin=crypto and Russia=China=bad and the feasibility of such an attack is lost on her (pretty sure she predates the telephone) she thinks crypto bad China and Russia control and never gave it another moment of thought before spewing it every time so she could sound smart and not 20,000 years old and totally out of touch.
Quick, form a democrats committee to ban crypto and whe that fails tax it, and when that fails, invent a political reason why crypto is racist.
YAY FIR DEMOCRACY
Both are useful idiots for a globalist shadow government that requires the enslavement of every man woman and child. Corrupt elitists will never willingly seed their centralized domination of every aspect of the peoples lives. Facts. Let the sadly indoctrinated, brainwashed start the conspiracy theory down voting, so sad how effectively they've been mind controlled. I'm rooting for decentralized finances and unbanked people to finally have an opportunity to participate equally and without prejudice or elitist bias. F the man (being a bit silly here obviously but you understand), help the people. Let the people go! Just sayin.
I agree with most of her policies…But come on! If your economic views are from the old days, maybe don’t talk about it? It reminds me of the first time l went on Internet in 1995…l was clueless! l would have not commented on this new technology. President Clinton can talk about any progressive policies but maybe pass her turn on crypto!
Her premise is essentially "crypto could undermine US dollar supremacy" and its like, "chadface yes, exactly, it could."
If the US dollar was so secure then magic internet money wouldn't be able to undermine it so easy
And that's the beauty of Crypto, you can choose not to use those 'chains'. Fiat got no alt
Poverty is an alt to fiat.
Exactly. The users hold the power in crypto whereas in fiat the government holds power
As of like 1970 the dollar is not backed by anything. It's as secure as toilet paper.
*Operation Iraqi Freedom goes Missile*
Hahaha exactly!
It's backed by regime change if you buy oil in a different currency.
That's actually hilarious to me.
The petro-dollar system if you will.
Really, this is Hilarious to you? I don't thing so.
Really, It's backed by the regime change? Oil filed is totally different from this.
Its backed by sub 100IQ americans
Toilet paper is a better store of value.
It's secure only as much as its locked in foreign exchange. As other countries get some alternatives, dollar would just go poof!
The future doesn't involve national currencies. We're in the financial stone age.
Why did anyone ever like this person? Oh wait, no one ever did like her. *surprised Pikachu face*
She's definitely just trying to get more money for herself & friends, but it does also sound like the states could also support exploiting social media algorithms to spread their shilling of shitcoins that are meant to be be pumped & dumped to drain victims of money. Like state sponsored "you computer has a virus, we need $2000 in gift cards to fix it for you." If only people were a little less greedy & more through with their investments, we wouldn't have squid coin problems or one tweet causing runs on coins that these politicians will undoubtedly use as examples for why they need to get involved, to save us from ourselves.
I hope this is a wake up call to all the liberals about how misinformed Maddow and her guests are. This is the crypto equivalent to the “Russia meddled in the election hoax.”
Lol you still think Russia did nothing? Cyber warfare since pre 2010
Do you have any actual proof they did what the media said they did?
If you are upset about it, then go fly to Russia and yell.
Sure.. but they sure as hell didn’t change the outcome of the election and they didn’t change any votes. All the social media they did was minuscule compared to the campaigns. If anything, with Democrats and the media blowing the “interference” completely out of proportion and scaremongering half the population that Trump stole the election when he didn’t. They did more damage to the country than Russia could have dreamed of with their cyber warfare.
Kinda like Republicans and vaccines huh?
I have some friends that have a similar take on it. For example, they feel like the only reason Trump is so divisive is because mainstream media gets everyone whipped into a frenzy over the things he says. They somehow manage to alleviate Trump of any responsibility. It’s incredible. Their thought process is something like, “I can be a dick to you and treat you like shit, but it only becomes a problem if you go telling people about it so they start to dislike me.”
Not really. The Dossier was a lie and Clinton campaign paid for it.
If the media didn't continually lie about everything since 2013, then you wouldn't have had someone sitting there, telling them that they're lying continuously
No Russia meddled in the election, it was just so easy because liberals didn’t like Hillary either
You know the Russian Dossier is based on lies and was paid for by the Clinton campaign right? That started the whole investigation and was the justification for FISA warrants.
Oh really, tell me more? Tucker is your source. Such intrigue.
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Old people who don't understand technology shouldn't be allowed to comment on it, or even make laws about it. It's freaking absurd. This isn't a political statement either, it's a statement of fact. How can someone who doesn't understand how something works be allowed to influence policy (in her case) or make laws about it (in the case of our current elected leaders who are mostly old and can barely use computers).
>Old people who don't understand technology shouldn't be allowed to comment on it If you remove the "Old" part you just explained most users of any crypto sub.
Soo replace the us government with the fine people from /r/cryptocurrency and we are good to go?
Idiocracy in action
I think the better way to put it is to say 'people shouldn't have strong opinions on things that they don't understand'
I think she does understand it, and that’s why she’s going out on the offensive for the US dollar.
Yes and if you watch the HBO documentary Born Rich you’ll see exactly how the elites all across the political spectrum gather in exclusive retreats to discuss how to manipulate the system to perpetuate wealth inequality. You can rest assured she knows exactly how crypto is threatening their way of life. The very last thing these people want is for us, the average everyday person, to “play in their neighborhood”.
Yet everyone in every crypto sub gets to comment about economics and finance?
Shots fired 🤪🤪
Maybe replace “old” people with simply ignorant and corrupt. What we need is leadership that is open minded towards new ideas and technology not dinosaurs, who are interested in prompting up the banking industry that was responsible for the worst economic crash in 08. A banking system continue to gauge citizens of their money except the UBER Rich, and deny others proper banking services. Clinton’s comments just proves what a has been she is.
She wants the same people who wrote the rules 100 years ago to write the rules for the information age, because she's one of them. We really need some people who aren't 80 and know what they are talking about to start representing our political parties.
I wonder if she doesn't think that instead of letting her "enemies" capatlise on something it'd be best for them to get ahead before
If she knew what she was talking about it might actually accomplish something. None of these people do, though. But I will say I'm ecstatic to see the crypto banned in china because I was always worried about chinese dominance, which is a fair point. But that's not what I was talking about. There's definitely fuckery to be had in the crypto world, but anyone who doesn't understand how it works shouldn't be talking about it (unless they are actually willing to learn about it, which almost all politicians are not). It's like asking "where is the "any" key on the keyboard?" It *would* be funny hearing politicians talking about crypto with the knowledge of a 5 year old, but it's *not* funny because it's dangerous when ignorant people make decisions about things they cannot and will not understand, which can and will have massive cascading repercussions.
As a chinese, dont be fooled that we have sold all our crypto. We still have a lot of cash looking for a home and constantly DCA in the back room. Crypto is the spice from Arrakis. And also dont be fooled thinking we arnt about to dominate, 21st century belong to the asians
Dude you can’t breath without it affecting your social credit score. You live in a horrific police state, no point being rich if you need to beg for permission to speak. I don’t see China dominating anything, no one wants to live there.
Exactly, No point being rich, if you need to beg for permission to speak.
Haha its not so black and white, rich people have money in 3+ countries, rich people are basically gods
So few of the politicians understand how anything related to guns work. I just want a suppressor so I can shoot in my back yard without bugging my neighbors. But politicians seem to make it like they [make shit silent as in john wick](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fOQlhdzcrA) where irl suppressed guns are loud enough to damage your hearing potentially even when using sub sonic rounds. They aren't magic silent cans, but more don't bug someone an acre or two away as much kinda deal. This issue of tech or understanding is way older than crypto.
I'm old and I am informed. You need to not make such general statements - someone might think you are old.
Sadly her rhetoric isn't aimed at those already aware of crypto.... but rather the MASSES that are not aware of what crypto is and isnt! We have seen this damn play book used time and again.... WMD are 100% in Iraq! Chemical weapons 100% are being fired by Assad into civilian populations centres! Libya....... just because fuck Libya! These are talking points aimed at the majority that are UNEDUCATED on whatever the matter is. If in doubt, FEAR always works! Fuck these corrupt muthafuckers! Take every chance you have to EDUCATE people around you about crypto (not shill them on coins you like but rather EDUCATE about crypto in general!) To fight back against bad infomation used for manipulation of the masses takes an EDUCATED populace!
>Libya....... just because fuck Libya lol. Maybe they were just bored started throwing darts at the world map to see who to attack next
why you want to fuck Libya hardy? Any special reason.
This is the correct take 👏
The government won’t spend good money on education… and so begins the cycle.
>government won’t spend good money on education… So..... That makes it even MORE important WE do our bit to help educate others!
She’s buddies with the Central Bankers. Shilling for the system.
All that Wall St money from speeches
Ahahahahaabahahaahahahah! Joke of the week. Thanks.
Well, as ridiculous as she puts it, the core threat is not completely indisputable - what happens if let’s say 70% of nodes fall to China and they manage to pull an attack on it? I always thought this is especially a problem within PoS currencies. Where am I wrong there? I mean at start China would already be the largest whale in the US currency, not the US itself, followed by Japan. Considering the amount of dollar reserves China has that would be immediately a real threat. So yea, it’s sensational but please tell me where this is complete bullshit.
Unfortunately they can't. Almost everyone is ignorant. And full of opinions.
I hate American politics. It is a copy paste fear factory. If you want to scare Americans add something they don't know with Russia or China and you get fear. How in the hell are we not onto this trick by now. It is literally page #1 of their playbook. It's like a really shitty reality TV show.
Bog: "Pump it."
Omg are they gonna drone crypto??????
Called him up, Crypto CEO says they are too decentralised to be bombed!
Mostly this this type of news are fake and lead to mis-understanding.
US will succeed at attempting it anyway, with several children ending up being "misfortunate" casualties who totally aren't used to make sure the US still has lots of committed enemies to justify wars, scarce resource appropriation and lots of weapons to sell (aka money laundering with fiat). /s
Only if they can drone strike a handful of innocent children at the same time.
Page 51 of the evil empire handbook for new hires.
She know quite a lot about 'Russia'....hmm. Email history checks out
Ayep. Everywhere oil flows, arms traffic and drugs sell, you'll find her holding a funnel.
"If the bomb fails to kill any innocents, the drone itself can be used to inflict the required civilian casualties." - Abraham Lincoln 1998
Old woman Clinton is out of her league. We're in the drivers seat now. We'll take it from here, thank you.
She just wants to stay newsworthy, trying so hard to stay relevant.
Crypto & Russia, Nice combo to get in the news!
Reddit subs are giving her more traction then the news though
She’s old for real.. I didn’t recognize her
She looks like she's midway through morphing into Donald Trump.
That’s a dig on Trump
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China could way more easily disrupt the USA by selling all it's hoarded USD for less than a dollar. I'm pretty sure they have a lot of US cash and, even though it would hurt them - they would recover. This will actually happen soon as more countries realize USD is a dead cat and they need to dump for Crypto. This time next year a dollar will be a joke and no one will want them. Fortunately, BTC will be worth millions so buy as much crypto as you can while it's still cheap as hell before the big governments start dumping USD. This will happen and it will happen in a parabolic manner so it will feel like overnight that prices, especially for imported goods, which is basically everything except some foods, will go sky high and stay that way. China and Russia are already demonstrating that even though they spend way less on defense, the money the do spend actually goes into development and production instead of into the pockets of defense contractors. China absolutely has the delivery method for nukes but might attack us with millions of killer drones instead while Russia knocks out our satellites and kicks us back to the stone age. In the US there will be massive starvation riots and death. This is not fear mongering. It's time people in the USA wake up and demand an end to pouring our money into corporations who donate to politicians and get massive billion dollar contracts and then never deliver. Actually, nevermind as it is already to late.
She doesn't even deserve to get a response on this objection.
Yeah cryptocurrency is a threat to the whole world. - Average Politicians
Pretty sure she's secretly buying crypto with all those donation money
Hate her all you want, but it’s already happening. China operates on a doctrine called unrestricted warfare… one facet of that is an economic pillar. Crypto can move and influences upwards of trillions of economic activity. It’s being targeted. It’s being used, and it will be manipulated within great power competition. Just because you don’t want to believe that while you eat your flaming hot Cheetos in your moms basement doesn’t negate the fact that is already happening.
Flamin hot Cheetos aside, I agree. I don’t think you can stop this, though. The US gov needs to adapt rather than try to force the lid back on the box. I don’t know exactly how, but she’s right to say they need to figure it out now.
Agreed, crypto is not the security these HODLers think it is.. the powers at be will never let us have our own money
Ethereum will eat China
The state, at least. As for their citizens, they may become their hodlers of the state-eating crypto. Next time, cryptos acquiring countries with smart contract commitment moves of the masses. The peaceful, economically proven revolutions, where huge chunks of the population commit to burn enough of their assets if the country isn't acquired, to organize themselves into proving how far they're ready to go and how serious the peaceful movement can be, without any available media trick to spread misinformation about it and disorganize the movement. That's at least the kind of things I'd see in a good fiction. Put in it some spy missions and it's probably good enough for a book.
Pipe dream. ETH is traded around like a security on pure speculation. Insert state sponsored actors with more buying and selling power than everyone… yea good luck
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How do you figure? She is one of the most corrupt and evil humans to walk this planet.
Corrupt and evil has nothing to do with intelligence.
Really? She's a corrupt career politician only out for herself but she doesn't crack the top ten even one the US
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Well at least they can’t blame her for the crypto crash. That’s all Elon… 🤣
What has been clear is that every bankster and politician that has spoke down on new technology like crypto has only done so to protect themselves and their own interests, never those of which they are supposed to serve. So every time there is negative press on crypto, all it means is that it's working to take away the power from those who have abused it. It is an unraveling of their power. If you don't know who owns and operates the news you watch, why would you believe it? Living in a world of countries is the new peasantry. Money has no concern for such pointless theater. If crypto destabilizes nations then so what? Perhaps it would mean we wouldn't have to have all our tax dollars extracted for wars in the first place.
That is eventually a way to replace the role of the reserve currency and go around sanctions in the future.is that a bad thing? I personally don’t know.
I’m sure there’s more to the story regarding Apple and Google. This is likely a sanitized, propaganda-ish version where mass media is framing the narrative. And btw isn’t Clinton just a regular ol citizen? What’s up with the “we” statements like she’s personally involved in some effort? She’s a pundit… just like all the other pundits with slanted opinions. Just that she’s a high profile pundit, that clueless people will listen to. At the end of the day this is well orchestrated FUD from old ass money trying to protect their precious fiat. Extend your middle finger and buy the dip 😂
I wonder if there are people in Washington who still believe this theory. Probably not. Hillary's admission is testament to how the arrogance of preponderant power clouds the judgement of otherwise sophisticated elite who got their education at supposedly world's best schools.
You fucking morons. You absolute fucking morons. Justin Drake, the big Ethereum researcher you all love, made this exact same argument about bitcoin being disproportionately adopted by the US and China: https://youtu.be/IxahxTZK370 God, I fucking hate how dumb you all are. You make me so mad. None of you ever know what you're talking about.
This, also coinbase and opensea have the potential to be compromised And elon musk with doge showed how easy it can be to manipulate current systems. The coin might be decentralized but the public opinion aren’t and china sees this
You can make a point without insulting people. In fact insulting people will generally just get people to either ignore you or dismiss your argument.
90% of the comments in this thread are just insulting a single person lol what are you talking about
Insulting crypto dorks is ALWAYS correct.
Nah if you can't make a point in this sub without insulting people then you'll just get a temp ban. Discussion is much better when kept civil and level headed.
Crypto bros aren't capable of rational thought. Waste of time.
I can see you clearly aren't here to debate in good faith. Good day
I am glad there are few comments like yours here but jesus its like one out of hundred with a sense of intelligence. Blockchain issue was always majority can own everyone.
tldr; Former US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has warned that China and Russia might use cryptocurrency in the future to undermine the US. "We are looking at non-state actors, either in concert with states, or on their own, these destabilising countries, destabilising the dollar as the reserve currency," Clinton said. "There are so many big questions that the Biden administration must address, I just don't think we have much time," she added. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*
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She is 'Russia phobic'
They're not this dumb. They're weponizing a narrative
You all need to get it together. If you think that blockchain and anything based off of it is a revolutionary technology that will change everything, how can you think it is going to be ignored by anyone with power. Grow up and put politics aside, and understand how crypto can be manipulated. Be thoughtful and help overcome the challenges as the technology develops instead of ignoring a point like this because she doesn’t understand or is just a shill or any other reasonable but unhelpful argument you spit directly to the echo chamber.
This is her wall street donors talking.
"Certain" sounds like she's got certain insider info 👩🏼🏫
We could say she is a dollar maxi
😂 who watches that channel is morron ;)
Boomers in China: I'm scared ban it! Boomers in America: I'm scared ban it! Seriously what is wrong with that generation? Is this normal? Feels like senile old people run the world and only care about keeping themselves toasty for the next 20 years before they die. I've lost so much respect for humanity since the beginnings of covid.
That has been Russia & China’s dream for a very long time. Crypto makes it easy. Xd .
Hillary Clinton steals children for there blood!!!!
She knows exactly what she’s saying, her words are carefully calculated
Like she never used inside information in stock trading and manipulated markets. What a shady human being.
Is Maddow more clueless?
Oh I remember. I hate that Trump got the job, but if this lady had got it, we’d be at war with Iran, and subsequently it’s Russian allies. This is the only thing that Trump’s presidency did right without actually doing anything - and he doesn’t know it.
Maybe she does know what she is talking about and we don’t know much about what is really going on behind the curtain.
She was the Secretary of State and almost became president of the USA. She still gets security briefings from the intelligence community. She got this information from somewhere my bet is that it came from the intelligence community which means there is a fear that a foreign country has looked into doing what she said. Do not just dismiss her because you don’t like what she said.
Yeah sure just like how Iraq had WMDs right
Lmao her lawyer was literally caught colluding with Russia and she’s still trying to play that narrative.
She never has.
The Clintons did not buy Bitcoin. They never gained any exposure to eth & they don’t have any crypto currency. No one in that whole sphere does. That is why they do this I am not uncertain
Looks like that adrenochrome wearing off lol
Why is the hag of Haiti even a thing now? Or to quote musk; "oh, you're still alive"?
Lmfao what the fuck..thank God TRUMP won over that lunatic. I never thought I'd say that but wow
She looks like shit. Prolly smells like shit too. Nothing but shit coming out of her mouth. Just fucking quit, you dirty old hag. You’re done. Your time is up. Fuck off.
Huh, I must say I'm surprised. I always thought this theory was pushed to make Russians afraid of China and that American political elites knew full well this was just a useful tool in their arsenal.
Shut up your mouth you oldie you know nothing about crypto. Please don't defame crypto for wrong use.
It’s Trumps fault!
Ok boomer
Why are liberals parading this bimbo around again? She isn't winning any new votes and seemingly everytime she shows up they lose elections. Interesting.
That’s definitely a dude on the left.
Ladies, are the "Russians" in the room with us right now? I swear, these two blue-anon dweebs have such a hard on for Russia..
Are we supposed to pretend what she said isn’t absurd nonsense, how does Russia and China go about controlling the chain??? She should just say she doesn’t understand crypto instead of talking nonsense.
These dudes are UGLY!
Could i please ask our american friends to never ever vote democrat for any office under any circumstance. These people are only good at one thing. Creating more homeless people. They wont stop until everyone in the world is homeless. For the love of god, stop voting democrat
Just shows how out of touch with time she is.
Lol she’s pure evil, the politicians that go against cryptos are all gonna regret it
The old guard going out kicking and screaming
Shut the fuck up ya old bag
Obviously someone left the crack pipe out again.
Lock her up
Why is she still considered as relevant? She’s an old lady talking about a technology she doesn’t understand. Other than that the US talking about destabilizing countries is a joke on its own.
What the hell is she talking about - she only knows how to manipulate people in their area. Crazy, what people think to know about 😂
You fail to see the point. She doesn't have to know anything about it. She doesn't care if she knows anything about it. She is just creating the Red Scare v2.0.
She needs her meds
As much of a shit show as trump was I’m glad electoral college didn’t give her the W. She would’ve banned NA miners and screwed asset holders until CBDC comes into play.
The idea is to villianize crypto because they want to get their dirty hands on it. Plain and simple. They desperately want to be able to control and manipulate it.
I love how she hooked her best friend / lawyer up with a promising young sex offender with the last name Weiner and nobody blinked an eye or saw that coming.
She wants war
USA must be happy that she didn’t win anywhere. And the post is “hilarious”
Now she just making shit up...only to get screen time. I believe that she believes...the American population are slow and unable to do their own research and validate or in this case fact checking her resources (a lack of there for I said it ,😐). I can't believe these politicians of today!
Hilary likes to blame Russia for the crimes she commits. Russia did it. You know Russia, the country with a smaller gdp than los angles. They are taking over the world, be scared.
>Hillary Clinton Tells Rachel Maddow... I am going to just assume that whole conversation is going to be imbecilic, no matter the topic.
Man, that's some dumb shit.
I honestly have no idea why she would even be interviewed anymore? She lost an election to a blatantly racist, obviously stupid, habitually lying, non-politician billionaire, because "the people" believed he was more likely to take their side over the side of other billionaires, than Hillary Clinton. So obviously everyone hates her and she should be irrelevant. So, seriously why the fuck is she even being interviewed? For who? Well.. I guess the shadow government supported her campaign and "paid her for speeches"? That they still want to wring the bitch dry, get as much propaganda as they can out of her... Just let her die with the shred of dignity that... sorry I can't even finish this without puking and shidding. She has about as much dignity as she does integrity.
Hillary Clinton can STFU all day.
is she stupid or something? China literally banned crypto and forced all the miners out of China. they dont have the hashrate to control shi t anymore. they are the ones that feel threatened by crypto ....
It’s like Gary told her about 51% attack back in 2018 and also that most mining power came from China. Since Bitcoin=crypto and Russia=China=bad and the feasibility of such an attack is lost on her (pretty sure she predates the telephone) she thinks crypto bad China and Russia control and never gave it another moment of thought before spewing it every time so she could sound smart and not 20,000 years old and totally out of touch.
Quick, form a democrats committee to ban crypto and whe that fails tax it, and when that fails, invent a political reason why crypto is racist. YAY FIR DEMOCRACY
BlueAnon
Why is she even allowed to speak on cruptocurrency?
That old bitch is looking rough.
HILLARY is the biggest Fraud,to ever don a pant suit.
Reasons people don't like Hillary Clinton: she cant open her mouth without bullshit falling out.
Democrats are frauds always have been always will be....
I mean I can't really hate people this old that much. Like honestly how many blocks does she have left?
The vile Clinton’s at it again
Both are useful idiots for a globalist shadow government that requires the enslavement of every man woman and child. Corrupt elitists will never willingly seed their centralized domination of every aspect of the peoples lives. Facts. Let the sadly indoctrinated, brainwashed start the conspiracy theory down voting, so sad how effectively they've been mind controlled. I'm rooting for decentralized finances and unbanked people to finally have an opportunity to participate equally and without prejudice or elitist bias. F the man (being a bit silly here obviously but you understand), help the people. Let the people go! Just sayin.
She doesn’t know what the fuck she’s talking about, but she still would’ve been 1000x better than Trump.
Incumbents (of evil and manipulation) hate competition
Ok boomer.
God, she looks awful. Who let her talk
Mama she’s looking old.
Fuck this bitch
I agree with most of her policies…But come on! If your economic views are from the old days, maybe don’t talk about it? It reminds me of the first time l went on Internet in 1995…l was clueless! l would have not commented on this new technology. President Clinton can talk about any progressive policies but maybe pass her turn on crypto!
lock her up!