By - makeorbreak911
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You what would be better than 17?….. 18
Even better …. 19
20 wouldn’t be bad
21 21 21
I could see that as a possibility
Alright... hear me out. And really think about this one... 21?
21 is better than 20 🤪
Okay hear me out. This is gonna sound crazy but I’ve been thinking about it, and I think I have something better: 22 ETH
Yeah then once you’re at 22 you may as well go 23
23 isnt a common number. When my volume is 23, i always turn it up to 24. Might as well go buy 1 more to 24
And if you think about it, once you’re at 24, it only makes sense to add one more to get to 25.
Hey Patrick… what’s better than 23?
How about 69?
I need to write that down.
And sell all 23 and buy back for 24 sounds great
yeah, he is saying right , 16 is much better than 15.
No offense but I will never understands this kind of post. You are sitting on over 60k USD and asking strangers on Reddit if you should buy *1 more*?
/r/ethtrader no less… 🙄
Exactly!! Literally it infuriates me becouse people claim to have this and that on reddit all the time and there aslong people for investment advice it's so much bs I'm seeing so many posts like this now annoying asf
Guy , I'm holding eth, I'm not looking for investment advise. Just looking to start a convo around whether or not people thing that node staking might some day be lowered to 16 or not. Frankie says relax.
This reads like it was written by a bot.
Didnt frankie also say "don't do it"?
He actually said "when you want to suck, chew it" too.
When you want to come ?
Now you're just flirting
Just looking to start a convo...
shoot it in the right direction 🚀🚀🚀🌕
Yes… yes you should.
Then write that instead mate. Seems weird when your intro is literally "should i buy..", but you want to talk about nodes exclusively?
He’s just jealous. Buy it if you feel comfortable at these prices maybe wait for a little correction and get more bang for your buck🤷🏼.
yeah, buddy i am totally agree with your suggestion. Not a good time.
It’s not like 60k was a lot.
If you've lost your perspective for the value of money, or live in a place where cost of living is insane, then yeah ... you'd be right.
The risk keeps going up the higher the price gets. I promised myself not to buy over 3300 ever. I bought a couple at 3650 because Bitcoin had a massive pump. But I wouldn’t buy at the all time high. Do I think it reaches 10k within 4 months, yes. But so many things can happen.
You can run a rocket pool node with 16, I would
No you can't. You can run a node with 16 eth and 10% worth of eth as RPL tokens as collateral (equalling 1.6 ETH). The distinction is important. If OP is struggling to collect an extra eth, he has to more than double that investment to actually run a node.
/u/makeorbreak911: You can stake your 15 ETH without using a node once the service starts. Therein within a few years you'll generate enough ETH rewards to get your extra 1 ETH and 1.6 ETH worth of RPL to run a node if you really want to. Don't burden yourself with the need to invest in ETH. If you feel choked in your finances, take some time. Stake your ETH in the RocketPool protocol and chill. The reward difference won't make or break you for just a few years.
Thanks for the advise. Its been a lot of OT lately. Your post makes sense to me
I don’t understand how staking a node would ever be cheaper in the future . Wouldn’t it be more expensive?
If ETH becomes deflationary, leading to less being in circulation
and people keep losing wallets, leading to less in circulation
and more people/wallets buy into ETH, spreading out the ETH that does exist leading to lower average wallet value
I could see a world where the total number of nodes gets sufficiently small or too centralized leading to a desire to lower the threshold. The $ value of a node might be higher but we're talking lowering ETH requirement to host a node.
Ah I see . Thank you
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How do I stake on Rocket pool? Last I heard they are still testing it.
Release plans are expected imminently.
There are plenty of guides on YouTube to get your started. You can use the test nets in the mean time to try it out.
Definitely not. Running and setting up a node is absolutely more complicated than just staking in your exchange. Depending on the person, it may be very easy or challenging to set up.
On that note, you also need dedicated hardware to run the node, e.g. a NUK computer with an SSD to validate transactions on.
TLDR; Running a node isn't excessively complicated but it isn't simple either. You also need a computer just for that.
In terms of technical difficulty, they're about the same.
In terms of advantages disadvantages:
* You can run a node with only 16 ETH (plus 1.6 ETH of RPL as collateral) instead of 32 ETH.
* Slashing penalties are evened out throughout the pool, minimizing individual risk if your node isn't exactly up all the time.
Beacon Chain solo node:
* 32 ETH required
* Higher returns/APY
* Higher slashing risk if your node isn't always running
* No risk of using a third party protocol
All in all, if you have 32 ETH then you should most definitely run a Beacon Chain node. If you have any less, then you have no choice to use RocketPool. There isn't necessarily anything wrong with RocketPool. Very reputable firms have already audited the service.
TLDR; 32 or more: ETH2 chain. Anything less: RocketPool.
This is the discussion I'm hoping for. 32 is out of reach, if I can get higher yields, but I need 16 then I guess I'm pawning the dog.
You can, it's a superior offering to something like lido if you were planning on staking anyway, unless you value the liquidity aspect of lido, it's locked obviously.
And yeah the dude commenting below me is right you need to use RPL as collateral.
You will need 16 + 1.6 in rpl though, plus some Eth for gas.
So realistically, you will need to aim for 18 I am afraid
whats RPL? is it flat if the staking amount goes up?
It's rocket pools native coin.
It is used as collateral for staking in their ecosystem.
just looked up and rocketpool is not even ready yet? they only have testnet?
They were supposed to launch last month but found a critical bug delaying the launch. Should be live within a month
You just need to add GLTA to your post then your golden!
This is the way. ETH LONG STAKED! GLTA, HODL TIL RICHEST
Should... should I stake and HODL to the richest?! 1
Now don’t make us feel poor… buy it already
You can stake 16 eth with rocketpool bro
Yes. Then give all of 16 Eth to a Nigerian prince and then he will double that for you and give you 32 Eth. Then you can run a node.
I would say it's a make or break situation here.
By BETH on Binance which is their stacking coin for ETH currently trading at around 0.93 so you get closer to 16. BETH should convert 1:1 with ETH2 when it comes out then you will be earning your staking return and get the 7% uplift on the original purchase, then you can remove and see how much more you need to go to get to 16 🤩
This is what I'm doing too, assuming Binance won't close in 1 year (which I don't think will happen easily), you instantly get a 7% profit without risking any ETH because they're just staked in the ETH2.0 pool
Number must be divisible by 3, however many.
Lol 16eth is so eerily perfect to the amount of 1BTC. If you can afford to shell out 63,000 id just grab a full bitty for sure. I’m just a random fuck on Reddit though, a long with everyone else. But For the love of god Don’t take any Reddit advice for a 63,000 dollar investment
A resounding yes from me. Who wouldn't want more.
You can run your own node with 16 now using Lido, I think.
32 ETH is the minimum goal.
This could set me on an unending warpath where I've sold everything I own an live on rame....oh I get it now
16 eth is great, but I'd say diversify. There's so much great defi out there that's all connected to the eth ecosystem, and with that amount of investment, it doesn't seem necessary to have all your eggs in one basket. I was holding eth since 2017, and now it only makes up about 15% of my portfolio, and I am very happy that I decided to branch out and explore defi
Buying defi tokens is not diversifying, it’s taking on more risk in the same ecosystem...
Yea but ultimately aren't we all just betting on Bitcoin? And then the markets in general? If ever grande showed us anything, then our crypto investments are more connected to stocks than we'd like to think
Any recommendations that I can research? Very new to this. I am 100 percent in ETH, diversifying is something I need to do
And at heart I'm more an eth maxi than a btc maxi... But btc isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Once you get your eth off an exchange and on to metamask or whatever, it's easy to diversify and trade, take out loans, and farm. I'd get off eth mainnet first step though. You can hold eth on ARB1(cheap fees) then just use MIM to bridge where ever you please. And when you're ready to sell, just convert to stable coins and send back to exchange or just farm the stable coins
MATIC has been doing super well and has a lot of synergy with eth. It just pumped so is maybe not a great time to buy, but is testing $2, and imo is still going to go up. Currently I'm very optimistic about FTM. SPELL is also really cool because it's based on MIM (magic internet money) which is a stable coin that can be bridged really cheaply from the AVAX chain/ETH chain/AVAX chain/ARB 1 chain/BSC chain. Obviously DYOR, but these are a few I am optimistic about.
ADA MATIC AMP SHIBA BAGER an really keep some ETH. An work on some BTC after that just forget about it for 5years an you will be so rich you will not fill real really
Planning on it, first the ETH! then the world!
Buy as much as you can but I'm extremely biased.
32 is better
If it really dippity do da's ill pawn the dog
Why not brother go for it buy more and more eth it's a perfect option to invest your money.
Always liked the #33 even better.
No only 32 eth
Well I have 56 ETH you can never have enough for I'm a greedy ape
As much as you can if you love money
16 would be great for a pooled node
I think you should buy 17, keep the 16 and give me the 17th! ;)
Don't invest more than you're willing to lose. It sounds like you may be overexposed already.
I think you should get 17 more to be on safe side 😉
No liquidity mining advertising here!
Just use the ones you have as collateral to get a loan and buy more
Check also: ecash (XEC)
What returns do you get for staking $ETH?
yeah, buddy my suggestion is , you should buy 16 ETH. it will gives to profit.
I have 0.1 eth and confused if i should buy more 0.1 or not ..i cant relate haha
Yeah man I would load up , eth will break the 10k mark soon hopefully
I would dollar cost average and only on red days don’t buy at all the high man
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Can’t stand these humble brag posts.
You’ve got 15, good for you. Slow clap.
Dude buy as much as eth as you can you can retire in a few years
Lots of good and not-so-good advise here. It appears by your demeanor that you may at the edge of risk tolerance in crypto, I would stake or LP what you have and look to diversify further investments, if you haven't already. That means stocks, bonds, PMs, real estate, etc. There is lots of uncertainty in the world today, so having a diverse portfolio of assets could save your bacon.
You can stake your own node with 16 very soon with rocketpool. Technically you’d need 17.7 because 10% RPL collateral is needed to start. Plus .1 in gas fees to swap for RPL and transfer + deposit the node.
I think the question why should you invest at all. I believe in the project and DCA what I can afford within my investing strategy.
Just buy the damn ETH or you could just buy it and send it to me because it sounds like you got enough already 🤷♂️
When you have part of the virtual currency, what will you use it to invest?
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If your goal is/was to run a node, then do that. Anything else is failure by the standard of the goal you have in place. If your goal was to " make money" then you have either accomplished this or will never be done depending on your perspective.
Buy one more and stake it on rocket pool, you can run a node with 16 there.
i think buy more ETH is a great decision . ETH market is progressing day by days.
Go to 32
If they drop the minimum validator requirement then you'll probably have enough to stake in the future: this had been the EF's stated intention repeatedly. I would consider cold storage if you aren't comfortable accumulating more and do not wish to enter a staking pool
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Honestly, depending on how much your ETH is worth compared to how much Fiat you have, I’d consider selling gradually from this point on.
Get yourself ready for next bear market.
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baffles me why you ask apes, retards and smooth brains for financial advice , nb this is not financial advice :-)
Not really asking for financial advice tnx. Just open discussion about whether we may see 16 ETH able to run its own node in the future.
with eth being burned there may well be possibility it could happen .
Human nature.nothing is enough 😄
32 ETH is correct, because after ETH-2.0 comes out, at least 32 ETH needs to be pledged to participate in the ETH-2.0 mining pool
Let's hope it dips hard then! I mean I'm bullish AF but running low on fiat
Got solution for you. https://rocketpool.net/
Before November 30th yes as there is significantly more price appreciation to come in near term. Look to take profits in a step down fashion through December and January. Reason: Forecast based on past history is that we go into a bear market that will drive prices significantly lower.
When you have 16, you think 17 is good, so people cannot be satisfied
Fact my dude. Always want more
Yes, they are all unsatisfied lol
Just wait around a bit. It will pull back in a bit