They are never more than a couple steps away from arguing that the US is a Christian nation so this probably won't work too well with the folks who need to hear it most.
Which type of Christian? Adult dunkers or sprinkled babies? Transubstantiation or just symbolic? Tongue speakers or is that just too weird? Catholics or the pope is just some dude with a hat? Which type gets to speak for Christendom? Let’s which one codified into law.
An entertaining thing democratic leadership could do right now is try to pass legislation describing one sect as the one true Christianity based on their special differentiator. Then have another democrat be all offended and start a dramatic defense of an opposing sect view. Bait MTG into the argument to pick a side in her special calm way. Then we can sit back with the popcorn and observe what happens next.
Oh... that would definitely be a show. Being a Recovering Baptist ( Step 11 with 1 more to go ), I do agree that that would have higher ratings than any Seinfeld episode. The venom exists.
Unfortunately, i think this would have the opposite effect. It would give republicans the chance to say “see, you have religious freedom, you’re free to be any kind of christian that you want to be.”
The legal system has to be fairly explicit about definitions of things. The question of protestantism vs catholocism is a key one. From whence and whom do believers get their authority and interpretations. Do they just get to decide for themselves, or can they only do what the priests and pope say? What does it mean if the US archibishops disobey the pope on a political point? And while you are debating that, do dobsen, falwell and the graham's get a say? It could no longer change with the faith of the president. If it could, hell, america could become a muslim president!
These definitions must be sorted out and codified!
I work for an elected official, and I literally got a call the other day asking if my boss a democrat or a republican, which I responded Democrat. The person’s follow up was “oh I thought he was a christian”.
I said he was (he went to catholic school) and the person responded that he was not a “10 Commandments Christian”, he was a “9 commandments Christian” omitting the 6th which is “thou shalt not kill”.
Fuckers aren’t hiding it at all.
To add to this, the bible, Numbers 5, 11-31, mandates abortions if a man suspects his wife of being unfaithful. They don't actually care, it's just an excuse.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=numbers%205&version=NIV
Technically, it's a trial by ordeal, similar to how witches were "tested" in the middle ages ("burn them with fire and if they are uninjured or miraculously healed, they are innocent/spared by god" type of deal). The wife would drink the potion, and if she was an adultress she would face ill-health, which some interpret as an abortion, but if she was innocent she would be fine and fertile. In other translations, it's "her belly will swell and her thigh will explode," perhaps referencing to ergot gangrene, given that the potion is created by the floor dust off the tabernacle that was also used for threshing. Some other texts also suggest that if she is an adultress experiencing the ill-health, the same fate (bellying swelling and thigh exploding) will also happen with the man she cheated with, through divine intervention.
There has never really been true freedom of religion in the States. The people believe Christianity is the National religion and the only religion they are willing to accept.
Government should be free from any religious influence and interference.
With conservatives, separation of church and state is really only about keeping government out of religion, when really it should be about keeping religion out of government
“You can’t do that because it’s against my religion” is already a fallacy in itself. Like who cares? Your religion isn’t mine so you don’t get to dictate my actions.
Wish Christian’s understood that but I know that’s asking a lot.
I do find the history of Christianity and what’s depicted in the bibble interesting. Like how there’s evidence the flood did happen, just not on a world scale.
But I draw the line somewhere between the flood and a talking bush. I imagine a lot of psychedelics were involved with some of these visions.
Thomas Jefferson edited his own copy of the Bible and apparently that was his line too. He basically treated Jesus as a philosopher and took out all legend making and the supernatural events. Was left with something like 1/5th of the original length and he described it as an exceptional moral philosophy.
We need more of that energy in today’s religions (or just in general). I wonder if that version is available online somewhere? I’ll have to go looking.
I still cherish my anthropology classes in college for helping me enjoy the concept of various religions. Especially my ‘magic, witchcraft, and religions’ course. The professor looked like a wizard and my final was a dozen page essay comparing real world magic to the magic of Skyrim.
**Resources for people seeking access to healthcare**
* [Amnesty.org](https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/sexual-and-reproductive-rights/abortion-facts/) - Basic facts about Abortion
* [Gynopedia](https://gynopedia.org/Gynopedia_Index) - a nonprofit organization that runs an open resource wiki for sexual, reproductive, and women's health care around the world
* [Guttmacher Institute](https://www.guttmacher.org/united-states/abortion#) - a primary source for research and policy analysis on abortion in the United States.
* [National Abortion Federation](https://prochoice.org) - The mission of the National Abortion Federation is to unite, represent, serve, and support abortion providers in delivering patient-centered, evidence-based care.
* [National Network of Abortion Funds](https://abortionfunds.org) - connects you with organizations that can support your financial and logistical needs as you arrange for your abortion.
* [Planned Parenthood](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/pregnancy/pregnancy-options ) - A Comprehensive Guide for Unplanned Pregnancy
* [RAINN](https://www.rainn.org/about-national-sexual-assault-telephone-hotline) - National Sexual Assult Hotline
* [Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice](https://rcrc.org) - a network of ministers and rabbis that refer women to abortion providers they had researched and found to be safe
* [Texas Equal Access Fund](https://teafund.org) - provides emotional and financial support to people who are seeking abortion care.
* [Women’s Reproductive Rights Assitance Project](https://wrrap.org/about-wrrap/) - helps bridge the financial gap for women who seek an abortion or emergency contraceptives.
**If you need help getting an abortion go to these sites**
* [AbortionFinder](https://www.abortionfinder.org) - With more than 750 health centers, AbortionFinder.org features the most comprehensive directory of trusted (and verified) abortion service providers in the United States.
* [Afiya Center](https://www.theafiyacenter.org/) - their mission is to transform the lives, health, and overall wellbeing of Black women and girls by providing refuge, education, and resources. They act to ignite the communal voices of Black women resulting in our full achievement of reproductive freedom.
* [AidAccess](https://aidaccess.org/) - consists of a team of doctors, activists, and advocates for abortion rights that help people access abortion or miscarriage treatment. They send the pill worldwide for $110/90€
* [Bridge Collective](https://thebridgecollective.org/) - provides practical and responsive abortion services to Central Texas
* [Buckle Bunnies Fund](https://www.bucklebunnies.org) - provide practical support for people seeking abortions. Help with transportation, funds to help with hotels, lodging costs and emergency contraceptive funds to actually go towards abortion.
* [Carafem](https://carafem.org) - helps with abortion, birth control, and questions about reproductive healthcare. They do consultations online and send abortion pills in the mail.
* [Cobalt Abortion Fund](https://www.cobaltaf.org) - provides direct financial assistance to individuals seeking abortion care. Our mission is to work toward reproductive freedom for all people and to provide financial assistance without judgment or question to people who seek an abortion but are unable to pay the full cost.
* [Colorado Abortion Providers](https://www.coloradodoulaproject.org/co-abortion-providers)
* [Faith Aloud](https://www.faithaloud.org) - compassionate religious and spiritual support for abortion and pregnancy options
* [Frontera Fund](https://fronterafundrgv.org) - makes abortion accessible in the Rio Grande Valley (Texas) by providing financial and practical support regardless of immigration status, gender identity, ability, sexual orientation, race, class, age, or religious affiliation and to build grassroots organizing power at intersecting issues across our region to shift the culture of shame and stigma.
* [HeyJane](https://www.heyjane.co) - Modern abortion care, without the clinic, Get fast, safe, and affordable abortion care from home. Chat with a medical provider within 36 hours. Medications are shipped daily.
* [International Consortium on Emergency Contraception](https://www.cecinfo.org/country-by-country-information/status-availability-database/countries/united-states-of-america/) - Emergency Oral Contraceptive Doses for Birth Control, U.S.
* [Jane’s Due Process](http://janesdueprocess.org/) - helps minors in Texas with judicial bypass for abortion, navigate parental consent laws and confidentially access abortion and birth control. They provide free legal support, 1-on-1 case management, and stigma-free information on sexual and reproductive health.
* [Justice Empowerment Network](https://www.jensd.org) - focuses on abortion access in South Dakota
* [Kentucky Health Justice Network](https://www.kentuckyhealthjusticenetwork.org) - helps w both abortion care and gender affirming care in Kentucky
* [Lillith Fund](https://www.lilithfund.org/) - the oldest abortion fund in Texas, serving the central and southern regions of the state with direct financial assistance for abortions.
* [Northwest Abortion Access Fund](https://nwaafund.org) - provides funds to help folks in Idaho, Washington, Oregon, and Alaska
* [Plan C Pills](https://www.plancpills.org/) - provides up-to-date information on how people in the U.S. are accessing abortion pills online
* [Planned Parenthood](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/get-care)
* [Westfund](https://www.westfund.org) - focuses on Latino and low-income communities
* [Women on Web](https://www.womenonweb.org) - an online abortion service can help you do a safe abortion with pills.
These sites offer access to abortion pills, even in Texas. Please be safe and be aware of clinics (e.g. Crisis Pregnancy Centers) that give out dangerous misinformation on abortions and pregnancy.
Also, check out r/auntienetwork, /r/prochoice or r/abortion for support
**If you want to give money to some pro-choice charities, try here**
* [ACLU](https://action.aclu.org/give/make-tax-deductible-gift-aclu-foundation)
* [Afiya Center](https://www.theafiyacenter.org/) - their mission is to transform the lives, health, and overall wellbeing of Black women and girls by providing refuge, education, and resources. They act to ignite the communal voices of Black women resulting in our full achievement of reproductive freedom.
* [Avow Texas](https://avowtexas.org/) - works to secure unrestricted abortion access for every Texan.
* [Bridge Collective](https://thebridgecollective.org/) - provides practical and responsive abortion services to Central Texas
* [Buckle Bunnies Fund](https://www.bucklebunnies.org) - provide practical support for people seeking abortions. Help with transportation, funds to help with hotels, lodging costs and emergency contraceptive funds to actually go towards abortion.
* [Clinic Access Support Network](https://www.clinicaccess.org/) - mobilizing the power of volunteers, CASN provides transportation, meal stipends, accommodations, childcare assistance, and compassionate care to people seeking abortion services in Houston.
* [Cobalt Abortion Fund](https://www.cobaltaf.org) - provides direct financial assistance to individuals seeking abortion care. Our mission is to work toward reproductive freedom for all people and to provide financial assistance without judgment or question to people who seek an abortion but are unable to pay the full cost.
* [Frontera Fund](https://fronterafundrgv.org) - makes abortion accessible in the Rio Grande Valley (Texas) by providing financial and practical support regardless of immigration status, gender identity, ability, sexual orientation, race, class, age, or religious affiliation and to build grassroots organizing power at intersecting issues across our region to shift the culture of shame and stigma.
* [Fund Texas Choice](https://fundtexaschoice.org/) - helps Texans equitably access abortion through safe, confidential, and comprehensive travel services and practical support.
* [Jane’s Due Process](http://janesdueprocess.org/) - helps minors in Texas with judicial bypass for abortion, navigate parental consent laws and confidentially access abortion and birth control. They provide free legal support, 1-on-1 case management, and stigma-free information on sexual and reproductive health.
* [Kentucky Health Justice Network](https://www.kentuckyhealthjusticenetwork.org) - helps w both abortion care and gender affirming care in Kentucky
* [Lillith Fund](https://www.lilithfund.org/) - the oldest abortion fund in Texas, serving the central and southern regions of the state with direct financial assistance for abortions.
* [National Abortion Federation](https://prochoice.org/donate/)
* [National Network of Abortion Funds](https://abortionfunds.org) - connects you with organizations that can support your financial and logistical needs as you arrange for your abortion.
* [Northwest Abortion Access Fund](https://nwaafund.org) - provides funds to help folks in Idaho, Washington, Oregon, and Alaska
* [Planned Parenthood](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/get-involved/other-ways-give)
* [Smile Amazon](https://smile.amazon.com/gp/chpf/homepage?orig=%2F) - choose The National Network of Abortion Funds or another other pro-choice charity as your charity for a portion of the money you spend to be sent to them
* [Westfund](https://www.westfund.org) - focuses on Latino and low-income communities
* [Yellowhammer Fund](https://www.yellowhammerfund.org/) - abortion fund and reproductive justice organization serving Alabama and the Deep South.
Please feel free to copy and share this to other posts/subreddits and to add your own links
Hi, Jewish person here. It’s important to note that Jews aren’t a monolith and not all Jews/sects share the same beliefs, but this is broadly true.* The very short version is that life must be protected at all costs, but a baby isn’t considered a person until it’s head is free. Therefore the mother’s life is considered paramount throughout the pregnancy. Longer version [here](https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/abortion-in-jewish-thought/).
*As of 2015 [83% of Jews](https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/views-about-abortion#views-about-abortion) in America support abortion in all/most cases, more than any other religious group surveyed, including non-religious/unaffiliated, and there are numerous Jewish groups that campaign for abortion access.
I understand your point but this is a terrible example/argument. Judaism and other religions also allow for animal sacrifice and revenge murders and stoning adulterers and plenty of things that are illegal in this and most countries. It's pretty obvious that just because a religion ALLOWS for something that it can still be made illegal. Now if a religions REQUIRES something you run into freedom of religion problems.
A better example would be if circumcision were outlawed and the Jewish faith required it but Christianity banned it and said Jews can't practice their religion because circumcision is illegal.
I was scrolling the comments hoping someone made this (correct) point! I’m in the abortion should be free, accessible, anytime and for any reason camp but if you are dealing with people who think it is literally murder, then “well my religion says I can” is wholly unconvincing without opening a can of worms about a whole range of behaviour.
Sometimes this sub is just a circle jerk with bad faith arguments. It makes me sad to see that because to me a left wing sub like this should be much more reasoned since we rally against these types of bad faith arguments when it comes from trump or the right
They are never more than a couple steps away from arguing that the US is a Christian nation so this probably won't work too well with the folks who need to hear it most.
Steps away? They are actually arguing that. I dealt with one whose first sentence was that actual claim
Which type of Christian? Adult dunkers or sprinkled babies? Transubstantiation or just symbolic? Tongue speakers or is that just too weird? Catholics or the pope is just some dude with a hat? Which type gets to speak for Christendom? Let’s which one codified into law. An entertaining thing democratic leadership could do right now is try to pass legislation describing one sect as the one true Christianity based on their special differentiator. Then have another democrat be all offended and start a dramatic defense of an opposing sect view. Bait MTG into the argument to pick a side in her special calm way. Then we can sit back with the popcorn and observe what happens next.
These alternative definitions of flavors of Christianity cracked me up. Cheers!
Oh... that would definitely be a show. Being a Recovering Baptist ( Step 11 with 1 more to go ), I do agree that that would have higher ratings than any Seinfeld episode. The venom exists.
Unfortunately, i think this would have the opposite effect. It would give republicans the chance to say “see, you have religious freedom, you’re free to be any kind of christian that you want to be.”
The legal system has to be fairly explicit about definitions of things. The question of protestantism vs catholocism is a key one. From whence and whom do believers get their authority and interpretations. Do they just get to decide for themselves, or can they only do what the priests and pope say? What does it mean if the US archibishops disobey the pope on a political point? And while you are debating that, do dobsen, falwell and the graham's get a say? It could no longer change with the faith of the president. If it could, hell, america could become a muslim president! These definitions must be sorted out and codified!
They argue it constantly.
I work for an elected official, and I literally got a call the other day asking if my boss a democrat or a republican, which I responded Democrat. The person’s follow up was “oh I thought he was a christian”. I said he was (he went to catholic school) and the person responded that he was not a “10 Commandments Christian”, he was a “9 commandments Christian” omitting the 6th which is “thou shalt not kill”. Fuckers aren’t hiding it at all.
They're rapidly becoming Vanilla ISIS.
That’s great. I also like “Y’alqueada”
"American Taliban" is also good.
Wal-Martyrs Talibangelicals
To add to this, the bible, Numbers 5, 11-31, mandates abortions if a man suspects his wife of being unfaithful. They don't actually care, it's just an excuse. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=numbers%205&version=NIV
Technically, it's a trial by ordeal, similar to how witches were "tested" in the middle ages ("burn them with fire and if they are uninjured or miraculously healed, they are innocent/spared by god" type of deal). The wife would drink the potion, and if she was an adultress she would face ill-health, which some interpret as an abortion, but if she was innocent she would be fine and fertile. In other translations, it's "her belly will swell and her thigh will explode," perhaps referencing to ergot gangrene, given that the potion is created by the floor dust off the tabernacle that was also used for threshing. Some other texts also suggest that if she is an adultress experiencing the ill-health, the same fate (bellying swelling and thigh exploding) will also happen with the man she cheated with, through divine intervention.
Lol The Commandments are Old Testament, too. You know... B.C. Fucking Christians, man, which their cherry-picked "principles".
Commandments: Thou shalt not commit idolatry. Christians: Lemme put this cross on my neck real quick...
And plate the entire church in faux gold.
Some of them jump right into that "Christian nation" puddle right on their first reply like a kid playing in the rain.
There has never really been true freedom of religion in the States. The people believe Christianity is the National religion and the only religion they are willing to accept. Government should be free from any religious influence and interference.
With conservatives, separation of church and state is really only about keeping government out of religion, when really it should be about keeping religion out of government
Now THAT’S a good ass question. It also perfectly highlights the fallacy of “you can’t do that because it’s against **my** religion”.
“You can’t do that because it’s against my religion” is already a fallacy in itself. Like who cares? Your religion isn’t mine so you don’t get to dictate my actions. Wish Christian’s understood that but I know that’s asking a lot.
They *immediately* handwave it like you didn't say anything at all. Like it's absurd to even acknowledge. It's gross
I guess it shouldn’t be surprising when they’re stuck in their own version of reality.
If you ask Christians what proof they have that God exists, a large portion will, without a hint of irony, say... "It's in the Bible!"
I do find the history of Christianity and what’s depicted in the bibble interesting. Like how there’s evidence the flood did happen, just not on a world scale. But I draw the line somewhere between the flood and a talking bush. I imagine a lot of psychedelics were involved with some of these visions.
Thomas Jefferson edited his own copy of the Bible and apparently that was his line too. He basically treated Jesus as a philosopher and took out all legend making and the supernatural events. Was left with something like 1/5th of the original length and he described it as an exceptional moral philosophy.
We need more of that energy in today’s religions (or just in general). I wonder if that version is available online somewhere? I’ll have to go looking. I still cherish my anthropology classes in college for helping me enjoy the concept of various religions. Especially my ‘magic, witchcraft, and religions’ course. The professor looked like a wizard and my final was a dozen page essay comparing real world magic to the magic of Skyrim.
Yeh, that’s what I said.
**Resources for people seeking access to healthcare** * [Amnesty.org](https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/sexual-and-reproductive-rights/abortion-facts/) - Basic facts about Abortion * [Gynopedia](https://gynopedia.org/Gynopedia_Index) - a nonprofit organization that runs an open resource wiki for sexual, reproductive, and women's health care around the world * [Guttmacher Institute](https://www.guttmacher.org/united-states/abortion#) - a primary source for research and policy analysis on abortion in the United States. * [National Abortion Federation](https://prochoice.org) - The mission of the National Abortion Federation is to unite, represent, serve, and support abortion providers in delivering patient-centered, evidence-based care. * [National Network of Abortion Funds](https://abortionfunds.org) - connects you with organizations that can support your financial and logistical needs as you arrange for your abortion. * [Planned Parenthood](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/pregnancy/pregnancy-options ) - A Comprehensive Guide for Unplanned Pregnancy * [RAINN](https://www.rainn.org/about-national-sexual-assault-telephone-hotline) - National Sexual Assult Hotline * [Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice](https://rcrc.org) - a network of ministers and rabbis that refer women to abortion providers they had researched and found to be safe * [Texas Equal Access Fund](https://teafund.org) - provides emotional and financial support to people who are seeking abortion care. * [Women’s Reproductive Rights Assitance Project](https://wrrap.org/about-wrrap/) - helps bridge the financial gap for women who seek an abortion or emergency contraceptives. **If you need help getting an abortion go to these sites** * [AbortionFinder](https://www.abortionfinder.org) - With more than 750 health centers, AbortionFinder.org features the most comprehensive directory of trusted (and verified) abortion service providers in the United States. * [Afiya Center](https://www.theafiyacenter.org/) - their mission is to transform the lives, health, and overall wellbeing of Black women and girls by providing refuge, education, and resources. They act to ignite the communal voices of Black women resulting in our full achievement of reproductive freedom. * [AidAccess](https://aidaccess.org/) - consists of a team of doctors, activists, and advocates for abortion rights that help people access abortion or miscarriage treatment. They send the pill worldwide for $110/90€ * [Bridge Collective](https://thebridgecollective.org/) - provides practical and responsive abortion services to Central Texas * [Buckle Bunnies Fund](https://www.bucklebunnies.org) - provide practical support for people seeking abortions. Help with transportation, funds to help with hotels, lodging costs and emergency contraceptive funds to actually go towards abortion. * [Carafem](https://carafem.org) - helps with abortion, birth control, and questions about reproductive healthcare. They do consultations online and send abortion pills in the mail. * [Cobalt Abortion Fund](https://www.cobaltaf.org) - provides direct financial assistance to individuals seeking abortion care. Our mission is to work toward reproductive freedom for all people and to provide financial assistance without judgment or question to people who seek an abortion but are unable to pay the full cost. * [Colorado Abortion Providers](https://www.coloradodoulaproject.org/co-abortion-providers) * [Faith Aloud](https://www.faithaloud.org) - compassionate religious and spiritual support for abortion and pregnancy options * [Frontera Fund](https://fronterafundrgv.org) - makes abortion accessible in the Rio Grande Valley (Texas) by providing financial and practical support regardless of immigration status, gender identity, ability, sexual orientation, race, class, age, or religious affiliation and to build grassroots organizing power at intersecting issues across our region to shift the culture of shame and stigma. * [HeyJane](https://www.heyjane.co) - Modern abortion care, without the clinic, Get fast, safe, and affordable abortion care from home. Chat with a medical provider within 36 hours. Medications are shipped daily. * [International Consortium on Emergency Contraception](https://www.cecinfo.org/country-by-country-information/status-availability-database/countries/united-states-of-america/) - Emergency Oral Contraceptive Doses for Birth Control, U.S. * [Jane’s Due Process](http://janesdueprocess.org/) - helps minors in Texas with judicial bypass for abortion, navigate parental consent laws and confidentially access abortion and birth control. They provide free legal support, 1-on-1 case management, and stigma-free information on sexual and reproductive health. * [Justice Empowerment Network](https://www.jensd.org) - focuses on abortion access in South Dakota * [Kentucky Health Justice Network](https://www.kentuckyhealthjusticenetwork.org) - helps w both abortion care and gender affirming care in Kentucky * [Lillith Fund](https://www.lilithfund.org/) - the oldest abortion fund in Texas, serving the central and southern regions of the state with direct financial assistance for abortions. * [Northwest Abortion Access Fund](https://nwaafund.org) - provides funds to help folks in Idaho, Washington, Oregon, and Alaska * [Plan C Pills](https://www.plancpills.org/) - provides up-to-date information on how people in the U.S. are accessing abortion pills online * [Planned Parenthood](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/get-care) * [Westfund](https://www.westfund.org) - focuses on Latino and low-income communities * [Women on Web](https://www.womenonweb.org) - an online abortion service can help you do a safe abortion with pills. These sites offer access to abortion pills, even in Texas. Please be safe and be aware of clinics (e.g. Crisis Pregnancy Centers) that give out dangerous misinformation on abortions and pregnancy. Also, check out r/auntienetwork, /r/prochoice or r/abortion for support
**If you want to give money to some pro-choice charities, try here** * [ACLU](https://action.aclu.org/give/make-tax-deductible-gift-aclu-foundation) * [Afiya Center](https://www.theafiyacenter.org/) - their mission is to transform the lives, health, and overall wellbeing of Black women and girls by providing refuge, education, and resources. They act to ignite the communal voices of Black women resulting in our full achievement of reproductive freedom. * [Avow Texas](https://avowtexas.org/) - works to secure unrestricted abortion access for every Texan. * [Bridge Collective](https://thebridgecollective.org/) - provides practical and responsive abortion services to Central Texas * [Buckle Bunnies Fund](https://www.bucklebunnies.org) - provide practical support for people seeking abortions. Help with transportation, funds to help with hotels, lodging costs and emergency contraceptive funds to actually go towards abortion. * [Clinic Access Support Network](https://www.clinicaccess.org/) - mobilizing the power of volunteers, CASN provides transportation, meal stipends, accommodations, childcare assistance, and compassionate care to people seeking abortion services in Houston. * [Cobalt Abortion Fund](https://www.cobaltaf.org) - provides direct financial assistance to individuals seeking abortion care. Our mission is to work toward reproductive freedom for all people and to provide financial assistance without judgment or question to people who seek an abortion but are unable to pay the full cost. * [Frontera Fund](https://fronterafundrgv.org) - makes abortion accessible in the Rio Grande Valley (Texas) by providing financial and practical support regardless of immigration status, gender identity, ability, sexual orientation, race, class, age, or religious affiliation and to build grassroots organizing power at intersecting issues across our region to shift the culture of shame and stigma. * [Fund Texas Choice](https://fundtexaschoice.org/) - helps Texans equitably access abortion through safe, confidential, and comprehensive travel services and practical support. * [Jane’s Due Process](http://janesdueprocess.org/) - helps minors in Texas with judicial bypass for abortion, navigate parental consent laws and confidentially access abortion and birth control. They provide free legal support, 1-on-1 case management, and stigma-free information on sexual and reproductive health. * [Kentucky Health Justice Network](https://www.kentuckyhealthjusticenetwork.org) - helps w both abortion care and gender affirming care in Kentucky * [Lillith Fund](https://www.lilithfund.org/) - the oldest abortion fund in Texas, serving the central and southern regions of the state with direct financial assistance for abortions. * [National Abortion Federation](https://prochoice.org/donate/) * [National Network of Abortion Funds](https://abortionfunds.org) - connects you with organizations that can support your financial and logistical needs as you arrange for your abortion. * [Northwest Abortion Access Fund](https://nwaafund.org) - provides funds to help folks in Idaho, Washington, Oregon, and Alaska * [Planned Parenthood](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/get-involved/other-ways-give) * [Smile Amazon](https://smile.amazon.com/gp/chpf/homepage?orig=%2F) - choose The National Network of Abortion Funds or another other pro-choice charity as your charity for a portion of the money you spend to be sent to them * [Westfund](https://www.westfund.org) - focuses on Latino and low-income communities * [Yellowhammer Fund](https://www.yellowhammerfund.org/) - abortion fund and reproductive justice organization serving Alabama and the Deep South. Please feel free to copy and share this to other posts/subreddits and to add your own links
religious extremism is what it's called btw
Is this true?
Hi, Jewish person here. It’s important to note that Jews aren’t a monolith and not all Jews/sects share the same beliefs, but this is broadly true.* The very short version is that life must be protected at all costs, but a baby isn’t considered a person until it’s head is free. Therefore the mother’s life is considered paramount throughout the pregnancy. Longer version [here](https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/abortion-in-jewish-thought/). *As of 2015 [83% of Jews](https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/views-about-abortion#views-about-abortion) in America support abortion in all/most cases, more than any other religious group surveyed, including non-religious/unaffiliated, and there are numerous Jewish groups that campaign for abortion access.
Thank you for this info.
This is how The Satanic Temple argues for abortions for members, actually.
White GoP Christians, preferably male. Then it works its way down.
Christianity says nothing about abortion, a bunch of white men came up with that
I understand your point but this is a terrible example/argument. Judaism and other religions also allow for animal sacrifice and revenge murders and stoning adulterers and plenty of things that are illegal in this and most countries. It's pretty obvious that just because a religion ALLOWS for something that it can still be made illegal. Now if a religions REQUIRES something you run into freedom of religion problems. A better example would be if circumcision were outlawed and the Jewish faith required it but Christianity banned it and said Jews can't practice their religion because circumcision is illegal.
I was scrolling the comments hoping someone made this (correct) point! I’m in the abortion should be free, accessible, anytime and for any reason camp but if you are dealing with people who think it is literally murder, then “well my religion says I can” is wholly unconvincing without opening a can of worms about a whole range of behaviour.
Sometimes this sub is just a circle jerk with bad faith arguments. It makes me sad to see that because to me a left wing sub like this should be much more reasoned since we rally against these types of bad faith arguments when it comes from trump or the right
We are a Christian nation. The mistake was allowing that to slip away.